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NFLN: Owners pass resolution - up to players.

Looks like the owners are being explained the CBA by league executives right now (6:41 PM Eastern). Players will hold a conference call at 8:00 PM Eastern and vote as well. This could be resolved in an hour or 2 but the fact that the owners have a resolution in hand and are being explained it right now is great news. Update: Owners have passed resolution. Update: Vote was 31-0 with Raiders abstaining. Update: LaConfora says NFLPA won't necessarily vote - still some outstanding issues - global settlement and re-certification

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I’ve glue to the NFL Network since getting home from work at 5. Feels like I’m waiting to see who the next President is. I’m too invested in this sport I think.

"Sit down and watch my Buffalo Bills destroy your Kingdome" - Abayarde

by nickdaniels on Jul 21, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Owner’s just voted yes

"Sit down and watch my Buffalo Bills destroy your Kingdome" - Abayarde

by nickdaniels on Jul 21, 2011 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

got it – takes longer to update a fanshot – :)

let’s go players – let’s hope that this is fair for small market teams too – that’s what i’m worried about.

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we know whats in it at all yet?

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Jul 21, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

not even remotely – we won’t know details for weeks i’m assuming.

plus – it’s not necessarily finished anyways – the players can shoot this down.

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vote was 31-0 with the Raiders abstaining

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Jul 21, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Ralph WIlson and Al Davis actually attended this one…or simply conferenced in Dr. Evil style?

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 22, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Supplemental revenue sharing for next 10 years.
No Hall of Fame game

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Most important: 10 years agreement, NO OPTS OUT. 10 year without this suffer again!

by hightower_mc on Jul 21, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

right – retro though – so 2020 not 2011.

Also transition + franchise tags still in there.

Must also remember that this is owners proposal – players must also approve…

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

rookie wage scale:

hard pool – similar to salary cap – for all rookies – so top picks would be eating other players salaries – hopefully that’ll calm those excessive contracts down
set length of terms – not disclosed

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

owners and who ever that one guy is seem pretty confident players will approve based on the hard work Smith and others have put in – which ultimately means nothing. :)

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

players need only 50%+ for passage. must also recertify to vote(obviously)

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

95% of cap must be spent 2013-2020
99% this season

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

players still to hold conference call – now. Also, owners maintain they did this deal with players so they would find it hard that they wouldn’t agree with it.

however:

it’s not over yet - you don’t remember? I won’t let you forget (special, mad props to anyone who gets that reference – especially since Brian will delete this once he writes and article)

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Mortensen says players not happy. haha

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 21, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Trotter published in his twitter a copy of an email that demaurice smith has sent to the player reps. It looks a little bit strange, because looks like owners leave the ball on players side and if it fail players would be the ones to blame.

by hightower_mc on Jul 21, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

George Wilson was just on NFL Network. Basically said the players won’t be rushed into anything, he doesn’t know where this timeline is coming from, there is no timeline for the player vote. They won’t do anything until their completely comfortable with all proposals and language.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jul 21, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

WGR550 was talking about this a bit ago (probably still are now) and Howard Simon made some really good points about the latest developments. Apparently the owners snuck some things in at the last minute – things not agreed upon, nor made visible to players prior to the approval. So now they put these things in that they agreed on, but which the players never did, and leave it up to players to turn down if they so choose.

Pitiful. Al Davis may come out smelling like a new rose after yesterday.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 22, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently the owners snuck some things in at the last minute

I really don’t see how that’s the case – especially since Smith and other players were part of the negotiation and were present the entire time….

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 22, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard via the news wire that the players were not given a final, complete document during the period of time where they were to vote. Just because someone’s in a room doesn’t mean they’re privy to all the information on a sheet of paper. I don’t see why it’s so hard to imagine the owners and their lawyers sneaking in things where the outside reading party might pass over.

All I know is the owners are not to be trusted. None of them.It’s a business to them first and they’re likely never to concede things to those they govern if it means a loss of otherwise attainable profit.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 22, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see why it’s so hard to imagine the owners and their lawyers sneaking in things where the outside reading party might pass over.

o.k. – well if that’s the case then couldn’t the players do the same thing?

I heard via the news wire that the players were not given a final, complete document during the period of time where they were to vote

right and that was it – nothing more – they players didn’t have all of the final documents for whatever reason.

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 22, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Players could have done the same thing, yes. But it appears they didn’t. Not having all the information in front of them is a huge problem, however that came to be. It didn’t afford them to connect all the dots and proceed as had been expected.

I think this is all a power/popularity struggle. No one wants to be the side that hammers that disagreement nail in the CBA coffin. It has to be someone, apparently.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 22, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it appears they didn’t.

why? because owners aren’t like teenagers that hit twitter when they take a different colored crap?

Not having all the information in front of them is a huge problem, however that came to be

but that only delayed the vote – there was nothing to be mad about – they didn’t vote because they didn’t have all the information. so really it was a delay more than anything and the players are freaking out about it because they are like children.

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 22, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The main difference here is that there are 1900 players to consider on the NFLPA side. There are 32 (well, 31in this case) owners. Of course players are going to react, overreact, and discuss the goings-on with the breeze. It’s believed every owner is/was on hand. They all were in the know. The players have to rely on a select group to decide their futures.

I don’t love any of this. Having to hear about it, forced (in some ways) to follow it. But I don’t think the owners have handled things very well, at least on the surface.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 22, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just think that it’s odd that the owners and Goodell worked with the players and Smith and came out of those meetings very optimistic that a deal was done because they worked so closely with the players on the agreement

When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.

by J2 on Jul 22, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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