A Few Thoughts
I have arrived at my breaking point, Bills fans.
Let me start by saying that the last few days have been absolute insanity for me (as well as Matt), and readership here is through the roof. Traffic is coming in at a record-breaking pace, and we're very thankful to each and every one of you who drop in here and make Buffalo Rumblings one of your trusted sources for Bills news and discourse.
I'd also like to say that, as a fellow Bills fan, I do not blame any of you for the inherent skepticism and negativity that has pervaded the discussions here of late. The relentless negativity is warranted, and I have no problem with anyone using this place to vent. That's what this community is for. However, as I said at the top of this FanPost, I've arrived at my breaking point.
I'm done moderating comment sections here for a while. As I say, I don't blame anyone for the relentless negativity; I just can't handle it anymore. Or, rather, I could try to handle it, and be a total jerk to everyone I interact with. You all can appreciate, I sincerely hope, how a person in my position could quickly get worn down by reading 200-300 comments per thread rife with depression, anger, and bickering. It's like being bitten by a thousand mosquitos; the itch is officially unbearable, and I've not any unbitten skin left. So I'm done for a while. A great many of you have been around to know what does and doesn't fly here, and I'm hoping that some of the vets will use our handy dandy flag feature if things get particularly out of hand.
With that said, I'm also going to make a few pleas. We are (mostly) all adults, and we are all part of the same fan base. We need to get along.
No. 1: Treat your fellow Bills fan with respect. We are all people - not just usernames on the Internet. I get that there are varying levels of negativity (or, in much rarer cases, positivity) around here, and that's the cause for most of the issues we've had with each other over the past few days. We are all on the same team. As you're venting, please post with that understanding. Nothing irritates me more than seeing two Bills fans bicker on a personal level. We need to be above such childish behavior as a community - and while for the most part we are, there have been plenty of slip-ups of late.
No. 2: Be as thoughtful as possible. I also get that the pace of the blog has been break-neck this week, and as such, the pace has picked up in the comments section. My plea here is for folks to post thoughtfully, not reactively. If you're looking to vent, you can still do so thoughtfully; reactive posts tend to be inflammatory and lead to problems. State your case in a way that wouldn't piss someone off if they were relaying their thoughts to you.
No. 3: Mind the community guidelines. Don't swear (gratuitously), don't be racist or homophobic, and don't insult someone's person (and it'd be great if that courtesy was extended to members of the Bills organization; they're reading, too). In general, act and blog like a human being, not a drunken Internet username.
No. 4: Keep this place awesome. I really love this place. I've poured my heart and soul into it for over four years now, and it saddens me that I've gotten sufficiently irritated with the mood and behavior here to write a post like this. This place is still awesome, but as a community, we need to work together to keep it that way, and with any luck, continue to improve it. Please. This is the big one.
That's it. Again, we're all in this together; that should be kept in mind at all times. I'll be poking around and posting as furiously as possible, so don't think y'all have free reign and can act as if you've got a substitute teacher. This community is developed enough that, hopefully, it can moderate itself. I heart you all. Go Bills.
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Well said and good luck!
It is incumbent upon us as faithfull Bills fans to take Brian’s plea to heart. Surely things will calm down in the next few weeks, but even though we are passionate we should still be able to differentiate between wholesome conversation and disparaging commentating which is borderline offensive. GO BILLS! And good luck.
And thank you Brian and crew. . .
Without you guys i would be at a constant loss in trying find information or hear anything about the Bills here in Steelers country.
Brian you are a very poetic man
A thousand mosquito bites…
"Aw snap, aw snap, come to my macaroni party and we'll take a nap!"
by J0ckam0 on Jul 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Please
Don’t have a breakdown!! It’ll be better soon w/camp getting going and position battles!! There is a reason that lots of Bills fans come to this site, you guys all make this a very enjoyable site to visit!! Lately if I see some insane remark I chalk it up to anger/frustration, ect. I usually walk away for a bit then resume my readership. But I love reading everyone’s opinions and views…for the most part!! Stay strong friend, you and Matt and all the folks that make this site great will be okay!!
Ask me about a Cosby Sweater!
by brendar of the bills people on Jul 30, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd of course...
and I hope many to come that keeps this on top…
Brian’s right Bills fans… We ARE all in this together, and while the disappointment some are venting is understandable, the FO is not finished yet, and our Bills have yet to take the field… Let’s be a little more patient with each other, and our Buffalo Bills…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
You can't be serious
Your response to my comment that I disagreed with a very profitable Bill’s team cutting employee benefits during the strike was an unsubstantiated statement—“find another team”. You later responded to my request to defend your position with --“this site isn’t for political comments” when my point was made on a purely economic basis. Practice what you preach.
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
by radan on Jul 31, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m not trying to take sides here, just throwing in my opinion. Economics is more often than not a political issue, whether justified or not. There are those that will start saying Reaganomics is a crock of poo, or that socialism is an unsustainable inefficient dream.
Not saying you are wrong or Cinga is wrong, but if someone can make protecting the good ol’ mother earth a political issue, someone can most assuredly make economics a cut-throat political issue.
That said, we should all take a deep breath before we post anything and re-read it so that it comes across in a respectable manner, no matter how much it may try to contradict the opposing view it is replying to…unless it’s humor. Never hold back on the humor.
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 31, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Winning is a cure all
the extremely negative posts are in relation to the Bills not being a superbowl contender for so many years now. If your a fan of not just the Bills, but the NFL as a whole, you see other teams turn it around and have playoff appearances fairly quickly. But other franchises do not, and that includes our beloved Bills. So it does become frustrating to fans when they see it happen to the Pittsburgh’s, Dallas, Greenbay’s ….. etc. etc. etc. but not there team. I have learned over the years (40) of watching the Bills and football in general to be patient because a sequence of events have to happen first in order for us to vault back to the top.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67
by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Suggestion
I like your suggestion that we use the “flag” feature more. I for one have never used it. Might I also suggest adding additional moderators to your crew to take some of that workload from you as this blog continues to grow (I’m happy to say my wife is one of our new visitors :). I would suggest Seargent Major Thor if he was up to it. He seems to regularly peruse and participate in the comments section and has a good demeanor.
by Denver's Buffalo Fan on Jul 30, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
That's a good suggestion....
but not exactly Brian’s point…. Like you, I have never used the flag, but being a relative old timer here, he’s right, we all need to take responsibility to keep this blog clean and refreshing for all of us…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
Football and Politics
Haha, sounds a little too much like our national politics these days. You hear a lot of squawking from those polarized on an issue and you have this mostly silent majority that just want things to work.
I can’t even imagine what it must have taken for Brian to write this post – certainly understandable, man. Take a breather, buddy. We’ll look forward to updates on camp and any upcoming roster action!
Basically, what Brian is trying to say...
You stay classy, San Diego East.
Maximus Dareus Meridius -- Commander of the Buffalo Legion of the far East. Defensive End to a troubled unit. Rookie to a troubled team. And he will have his vengeance, in this season or the next.
That’s not even remotely what I’m trying to say. What I tried to say, I already said.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
And I heard ya loud and clear, will simple not post as often to avoid unneccessary commentary. Basically think twice before I post. You do a good job Brian, hats of to you!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not even remotely what I’m trying to say. What I tried to say, I already said.
Debauchery it is then. Uncork the wine barrels!
Maximus Dareus Meridius -- Commander of the Buffalo Legion of the far East. Defensive End to a troubled unit. Rookie to a troubled team. And he will have his vengeance, in this season or the next.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I take some of the blame. I should be here helping to moderate or to spread some cortizone cream on you mosquito bites if you will. I however got very fed up with the very same thing a long time ago. I can’t take the quick gut reaction type posts anymore. You would think that by now people would learn that just because the Bills didn’t sign 10 players in the first day of FA that hardly means FA failed. Or that they are even close to done. I understand the frustration, I am a Bills fan after-all. I just wish people would use some common sense and think a little before you post.
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by sireric on Jul 30, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
im new to rumblings, how do i create a fan post?
by snakebyte18 on Jul 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Go to the top right part of the screen where it says “Edit”, and hit the “FanPosts”, then follow the subsequent directions.
Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Jul 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
actually – he wants “new”
When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.
by J2 on Jul 30, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
When you go the the very next screen there is a button labeled “New FanPost”.
Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Jul 30, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Said Brian
Thanks for all the hard work you and Matt do. We all appreciate it!
'Nuff Said Brian
Its easy to get down on the Bills. But it is time to look to the future and be optimistic. I like Nix and Chan. I think Nix knows football and Chan knows how to coach. I don’t know if we are going to see the playoffs this year or not, but I do sleep well at knowing that those guys really do know football and personnel inside and out.
by CarolinaBills21 on Jul 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
Why are members of the Bills organization “reading too”? You guys share info on the team; they actually create the info. That is the least assuring thing I’ve read about this franchise in awhile- and that’s saying something. It’s one thing to be bad; it’s another thing to be thin skinned and paranoid.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
They read to get the pulse of the fans. They’re not reading because they’re thin-skinned, and actually, that’s the kind of hurled insult that’s been irritating me to no end this past week.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
recd
for sentiment. however, what is the line between having a view, and having YOUR view? i don’t see why we must agree with everything the organization or coaches do… or why we can’t be upset by an inability to sign talent this year, or to question player movement… these things are fine for moderators… but not the rest of us? i spent an entire year away… in the hope that as this site grows, and the perspectives become more varied, that it might be ok to have an opinion, and share it with fellow bills fans.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is a diffrence between opinion and border line attacks on character basically. Its one thing to say its weird that obd reads articles on here. or i can not believe obd wastes importat time reading website articles. Saying it makes them thin skinned and paranoid starts to become more of an attack.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
ridiculous
The behavior of a professional franchise actually paying attention to a fan blog is indeed paranoia in my opinion and deserves scrutiny. That’s not a personal attack on anyone in particular. I don’t even have a clue who the culprits are- it’s impossible to attack anyone personally (even if I wanted to, which I don’t).
The greed of the lockout has left many fans even less patient than normal with a bumbling franchise; that’s the source of any increased hostility you may be encountering. Frankly, the NFL and its players have themselves to blame if that’s the case. As for the comment above, it was innocent enough and I can only reiterate my horror over uncovering this revelation.
Finally, I wish you well, Brian Galliford, but it continues to confuse me when frustration over this franchise is seen as a personal afront to you which causes you “irritation”. Exhibit A would be the irritation caused above. Are you in someway affiliated with the team in terms of a financial arrangement? If so, it certainly changes my viewpoint of your articles which I tend to take as highly credible.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Jul 30, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
seems silly that any organization wouldn't want to know what the fan base thinks
that is why market research is so important to any products viability… IMO
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure all market research points to winning being the dominant factor in their product’s viability. One would think they’d concentrate on the task at hand.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
haven't played any games yet meng
so i can’t fault your logic, but “winning” isn’t the only thing… or else half the league would have questionable products. as maybe you feel they do. personally, i think it remiss to not think that seeing things from the outside of the organization couldn’t possibly help those who see things from where we can’t.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
One would think that they could concentrate on said task while also keeping track of what fans are thinking and saying. There’s more than one person in the organization, after all.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
PR
No worries dude, you are entitled to your opinion and as a Bills fan I look forward to your comments but we can all grow no matter how old or young we are. Don’t take this stuff to serious friend your comments are appreciated regardless of needless attacks by readership, why? Like we need internet teachings?
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The Sabres have great ownership
And just held a blogs media day. Just because it’s not the classic marketing research doesn’t make it bad.
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
by Der Jaeger on Jul 30, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, I’m not affiliated with or compensated by the Buffalo Bills. SB Nation is an independent, fan-centric media organization.
You’re right about the lockout leading to a lot of pent-up comment aggression. When you call someone thin-skinned for reading a fan blog about their own organization, however, I don’t know how else to interpret it. You said yourself, you don’t know who’s doing said reading, or why, yet you’re making an assumption on that person’s character.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
but it continues to confuse me when frustration over this franchise is seen as a personal afront to you which causes you "irritation". Exhibit A would be the irritation caused above. Are you in someway affiliated with the team in terms of a financial arrangement? If so, it certainly changes my viewpoint of your articles which I tend to take as highly credible.
Port Royal, you just keep doing it. Don’t you understand the difference between expressing your point of view and attacking people’s character?
1. Calling anyone at OBD “thin skinned” simply for taking note of fans’ reactions is at best uninformed (you don’t know why they are doing it, but you are assuming the worst) and at worst a huge attack on their character.
2. Insinuating that Brian must be somehow financially compensated by OBD is a huge assumption about why he would be irritated at your inability to distinguish a criticism from a personal attack. It’s highly likely that he’s irritated because you clearly can’t make a critical comment without also making it a personal attack on someone’s character, this time on Brian’s.
Although I don’t know Brian personally, his body of work for the last 4+ years has shown him to be a finer journalist than a lot of people who get paid in the media – and I do know, because I have worked in both TV and in the newspaper world.
Maybe you should start learning how to construct a critique without all your barely thinly veiled character attacks. Now I’m starting to get irritaed (and I certainly don’t make any $$ from all this). You can dislike all the moves you want. But clearly you don’t understand this crucial difference.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 13 recs
excellent
A textbook personal attack. OBD is a faceless corporation who has no persona to attack. I am an individual person who can be attacked personally. Thanks for demonstrating the difference so effectively.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
It wasn’t a personal attack on thefourwinds’ part until the final paragraph. His other points are spot on.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the last paragraph was not a personal attack, but it was a fairly in-your-face assertion about what Port Royal has clearly demonstrated in this thread.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
if you have a view, and you stick to it, it doesn’t mean it is wrong, or it shouldn’t mean it is unwarranted or wrong. it just might mean you disagree.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I consider an in-your-face assertion about what one has demonstrated in one Internet thread a personal attack. The entire paragraph wasn’t necessary, and you can see how something even slightly inflammatory can piss someone off. This is the type of off-the-cuff commenting I’m trying to discourage.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha. I consider it different, but I can understand why you’re trying to discourage it.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The point
What is ‘incorrect’ to post on this site? One mans ‘point’ is just another mans ‘attack’.
The altruistic view that this site can be monitored to a level that eliminates all ‘evil’ is simply unrealistic. ‘Morality’ is in the eye of the beholder. And the quest to make this site of an enlightened conscience is entirely subjective to the editor in charge of making the final decision.
I suggest you just enjoy the ‘blog’ for what is. And that is a place for all humans interested in our football team, to debate and discuss our future, accepting both the good and the bad, as that is what makes the human race so interestingly beautiful. Diversity of thought.
You might just enjoy the team, and the bloggers, a little more if you just took a blog for what it is.
Fun.
by DJ O on Jul 31, 2011 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Aspirations are a good thing
The altruistic view that this site can be monitored to a level that eliminates all ‘evil’ is simply unrealistic. ‘Morality’ is in the eye of the beholder.
Like this great nation, we aspire to live by an idyllic set of principles. To pursue perfection but accomplish slightly less, is better than to accept mediocrity and all of its warts.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
For one man to monitor and enforce? Thats asking to much. I agree that perfection is noble.
But the idea that perfection should be the standard, and thus policed by one man almost by the minute, could lead to burnout, if not depression.
Therefore its too much burden to bear – having to monitor every spoken word. I just can’t see how that livelihood is healthy. I feel for you B.
by DJ O on Jul 31, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, there's two of them :-)
Yes this blog is tough to monitor, and that’s why Brian is appealing to the masses in the hopes that self regulation, and the reporting of offensive posts will make his job less burdensome.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Fantastic comment. Can’t believe it’s not plastered with Recs.
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by Home Run Throw-up on Aug 1, 2011 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions
not to be a "nana nana boo boo sort"
but shouldn’t there just not be personal attacks at all? i realize everyone is passionate, and sometimes that pushes “niceness” aside, but we can all try and stay respectful. as humans, we have faults. i will gladly admit to that.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. That’s the point.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
wow. who would have thunk? ; ) i did email you btw, so that i can hopefully “clear the air” some. hopefully this means progress for me. : )
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You may want to re-send; I saw it in my spam folder as I purged it, realized who it was from, and watched it get trashed into the ether. My bad! :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i have resent
if you have a minute to give it a quick read.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking to me in direct address with an insult over my intelligence and comprehension skills in a public forum is a personal attack, pal, whether you are irritated with over my skepticism over the Buffalo Bills or not.
You write an excellent article and you run a great blog that I enjoy, but for four years, there is an atmosphere here where folks who are on board with the team can say whatever they want and folks are skeptical of the team are attacked personally. It’s a shame.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Jul 30, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
sorry brian
i am not looking to create a rift that i JUST STARTED repairing… but this is the exact literal sentiment i have tried to relay as well. we may just both be jerks, but it is a valid view, whether you can see it that way or not.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you PR
for at very least validating my perspective, whether we are accurate or not. i get where you are coming from.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry you feel that way about our atmosphere, but I assure you if that’s a universally-held opinion, it’s not something I’ve been aiming for.
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@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
by no means would i think we say universally
but i do think it should be considered. i doubt it would be anyone’s intention, but it sure does seem like it is kind of “my way or the highway” sometimes. case in point- i left for an entire year to see if things change. i see what you mean about everyone complaining the last however long, but i wasn’t one of them.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
also brian
i appreciate you providing us the forum, and speaking to us directly, which i realize you need not do.not just puckering up either. i just truly know how much work you put in, and was made aware (by you) that this is something you do as a fan.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but for four years, there is an atmosphere here where folks who are on board with the team can say whatever they want and folks are skeptical of the team are attacked personally. It’s a shame.
Could anyone seriously say this, when Kurupt, one of the senior moderators of the board is about as critical of every move the team makes?
The difference is, Kurupt’s criticisms are not attacks on their character or their assumed actions, but on their displayed actions and choices.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
correct, K has his problems with OBD (Kelsay anyone?) but he makes sure to base it all on
things he has seen and has been reported, NOT on some nebulous “feeling” about what the team may be thinking or possibly doing
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Asking someone ‘why’ when they’re making baseless assaults on the team’s integrity is not a ‘personal attack’. Neither is trying to logically disassemble an argument that makes no sense when dissected. Throwing in a jab might not be nice but it doesn’t suddenly make the original points void either.
I can’t think of a single person here who is completely wine and roses about the team 100% of the time – even the most optimistic of people were only predicting around 7 wins max last season. I’m one of the more unabashed optimists about the team – the type of guy who has been voting ‘yes’ on the approval polls for a while now – but I’ve still been plenty critical of the team at times. I wanted them to take Ryan Mallett and Kyle Rudolph in the draft, I disliked the Andra Davis signing just as much as I loved the Dwan Edwards one, I hated the fact that Trent Edwards was not immediately released after the first game of the season (although I was placated a bit after the second game)… So it’s not like there’s a group of people here who just sit there going “NO EVERYTHING IS FINE AND YOU WILL AGREE.” I’m usually an optimistic guy when the Bills are concerned and I can assure you that people who are ‘on board with the team’ do not get a free pass – the amount of time that I spent trying to inform people that Dwan Edwards was not in fact the worst signing the Bills have ever made was pretty tedious and probably too much on my part. There’s plenty of argument topics around here that get plenty of air-time on both sides of the divide as well, like the ‘Is Fitzpatrick a QB that could lead a team to the playoffs or SB’ debate. This is not a cut and dry thing as you seem to think it is.
Sports fans as a whole have an unfortunate tendency to base feelings off of their gut instead of actual facts and often times that can lead to arguments, and when people get into heated arguments based on feelings they often look for fallacies to attack that may not actually exist. Pointing to everything as a personal attack is the opposite of productive, especially in a situation like this where there were plenty of other perfectly valid points in the original post up there but you zipped straight to “OH NOEZ PERSONAL ATTACK”.
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by UZ on Aug 1, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I see, you clearly still don’t get the difference, as you have so ably demonstrated, so you’re trying to turn it on me. Here’s the difference:
- Take this example: I (thefourwinds) personally think it’s an unwise move for Gailey to move Moats to ILB (for any length of period). Moats has proven himself to be a good/improving player at OLB, but struggled mightily at ILB last year. So I say I think it is unwise and I state why: “It’s likely to hamper Moats’ development at OLB where he was starting to play well, and there are other people that could be either moved or acquired to play ILB.”
What I don’t say is, “See, Gailey is over the hill, past his prime, too stupid to know any better, out of his league,” etc. Those would all be personal attacks.
Are you starting to understand the difference?
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Urgg
My head hurts now!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks fourwinds
After reading PRs reply to Brian on my cell phone, I switched to my laptop to reply and see that you already expressed what I was thinking. As Brian pointed out, at some point we all become a bit reactionary. It serves this community best if we take a moment to read further or reflect on what we have read before responding. If that was done more often, there would be a lot less vitriol on here.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Reply
Great, point made?
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
So the Sabres blog madia day makes that organization bad too?
Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Show me where I said you couldn’t do any of that.
Editor-in-Chief, BUFFALO RUMBLINGS®
@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in the warning i recieved
i felt that this is the impression you are trying to give. for simply stating views in these articles, which i feel are informed and valid. if you disagree, i am happy to discuss them.. i am all on board with being respectful. this site is great for providing us information quickly. this site is great for allowing us a voice. i am quick to defend logic, but equally quick to question a view that is just “b*tching”… as my posts have shown. i really made it a point to try and just stay positive and realistic, and that lands me with being told to cool it. i can appreciate that there have been many “negative nancies” on here lately… but i have not been one of them. i took a sabbatical in order to gain perspective, and see things from your point of view, or at least your view of me. now, i hoped to simply give a perspective, and wait to hear another persons view. i am not trying to argue with you. we know where that landed me before. i am simply trying to be free to see things how i see them, and see if others out there agree. and quite a few people do, and without saying “ralphs and idiot” or having to believe “Fitz is the answer for the next 15 years” or whatever. like i said already… no disrespect intended… but it seems as though we can’t do something like question how great Urbik or Rinehart or Wrotto or "fill in unproven guy here "is… i am a quick advocate of the fact we have a TON of potential on this roster, and the staff will be the ones to show us who the true players are.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
just so you know if you ever get a warning and not sure why drop brian an email. im sure he would be happy to explain why it happened,
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
no disrespect
but that landed me banned last time. i am a passionate fan, and i certainly don’t always agree with Brian. I will admit to my faults, but that said… i just like the participation, and feel like i have a view that is valid… because i feel any informed fan does.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You also have to remember to be nice when asking. Asking why you were banned off blog in a nice way is ok. Like hey brian just want to know why i was given a warning. so that I can try not to repeat the behavior.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
can't disagree
but i would appreciate if you stop offering advice in this matter, as you are assuming i was a jerk first, and not a respectful fan. this is a matter i am happy to resolve with Brian, and appreciate your perspective. i realize you mean no disrespect, but at the same time, you are not aware of the situation prior.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry if it seemed that way.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
apology accepted
and in a way yes, and in a way i understand you are simply trying to offer a perspective to help this site remain awesome. so though i do truly appreciate you being a voice of reason, in this instance, i don’t feel it necessary because this is all a result of an underlying issue that went unresolved because neither of us felt a need to be the “bigger person”. hopefully, we can gain mutual respect, or at least agree to disagree.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
no prob man
i am not about being a jerk for the fun of it. i just feel that we kind of are blessed with a gift, and yet have a curse of being a passionate, informed fan base, and some of us have varying degrees of love for this team that alters our view of what talent is, and who is talented.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup lots of opnions and people clash.We all just have to learn anyone can stay mad or hol a grudge.Thats easy forgiving forgetting and not reacting badly takes a much bigger person.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
well said
and i am totally trying out that perspective, as i feel it is mutually beneficial to anyone with whom i disagree. that said, i am not gonna accept spoonfuls of “the bills are the best team in football” because they certainly are not the best team, even in our division. they are currently tied. =)
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the laugh. A good old debate is always welcome.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
agreed
and thanks for keeping it cool, and accepting that i might be reasonable. at least sometimes.
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We can talk about your warning off-blog, but I assure you, it was not delivered because of any of your opinions – just the ways you express them.
Editor-in-Chief, BUFFALO RUMBLINGS®
@BrianGalliford
by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
well, in that case also……. sometimes sarcasm should be left out of a reply when asked a simple question also.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67
by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are members of the Bills organization "reading too"?
Business 101, know your customer. I wouldn’t doubt that the folks in advertising or responsible for community relations read this blog. This is a great way for them to know “how are we doing?”. Politicians do the same thing by hiring statisticians to do voter surveys on different topics. For instance: if they see a lot of negative comments about specific misbehavior in parking lots after the game, they can take steps to address it. Its actually good business sense to read what’s written here.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Reading
Than OBD hasn’t been reading enough or long enough.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows?
Than OBD hasn’t been reading enough or long enough.
There’s no telling how much they are reading or what they are doing with the information. All we know is, at some point this blog is/was read by OBD employees.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Brian
I understand exactly how you feel. Trust me I do. And I know I have not been the best in the past at expressing myself in sometime a thoughtful way, So I have been trying to limit my posts and bite my tongue as much I can as needed. So with that said, always remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMHtoWGLW0
upbeat
I have always been upbeat and supportive of the team regardless of any disappointing news. I am glad we have a team in Buffalo, good or bad they will always be MY TEAM. I am as excited for the prospects for this year as I was last year and the year before. The losses hurt, but the wins more than make up for them.
CC Infantino
On a totally unrelated note, when I first saw your screen name, I missed the “las” and spent about 10 seconds wondering what a “lost vegan” was. Haha!
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Left & came back
Born/raised in WNY, went to LV for 14 yrs and came back 4 yrs ago. My friends called me the Lost Las Vegan when I returned.
CC Infantino
by lostlasvegan on Jul 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, that makes sense. I just originally thought it had something to do with being a “vegan” (you know, don’t eat meat or any animal products) and being lost. That made me chuckle.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha That's funny
I love Beef on Weck with mustard. There’s a Buffalo resturant (Santora’s) transplanted in LV that recently started flying in Weck rolls. Cool Man.
CC Infantino
by lostlasvegan on Jul 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw. I’m not a huge fan of Beef on Weck, but I sure do miss good Italian food and places likes Ted’s.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss the food in Buffalo also…….. wings, pizzia, roast beef on weck, well i could go on. I think no one can hold a candle to any of the eating establishments in the western ny area.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67
by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
where in south are you?
i have family from georgia to NC, and many of them agree with you. some of our establishments have gone down there and done well, but really, southern food is SOOOO different than up here. they are hell bent on sweet, and sour, where we want hot and spicy. :)
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I live near FT. Bragg (Fayetteville) and Pinehurst. And yes your very accurate on sweet and sour vs hot and spicy. Although, i sure do love the sweet ice tea down here. I doubt i could live with out it.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67
by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
werd
my roommates mom just moved back from georgia so i have experimented with a few southern dishes. some resemble polish dishes to me… others are just gross. ;) give me my chicken wings in medium sauce any day. :)
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I live in the Northern Plains. Lutefisk is what we have to suffer with here. ;-)
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll take pickled herring and sauerkraut any day over lutefisk.
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, by a country mile, Lutefisk is nasty enough that the people who invented it only eat for important occassions
the rest who actually ENJOY it? I have to wonder about their tastebuds, and I LIKE sour things!
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
Haha, the people that invented it don’t even eat it that much anymore (in Norway). IIRC it’s one of those poor peasant foods that became more of a Norwegian-American thing than Norwegian-homeland thing.
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
were you the beef on weck guy yesterday?
with the eagles comment? cuz i sure do love them cheesesteaks still. :)
by ThaRealTruth on Jul 30, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re still writing right?
I’ve been here for a while too – i’ll put a good effort forth and try to keep things calmer – myself included – to keep this place the way it has been because that’s why I come here daily.
When you innovate, you've got to be prepared for everyone telling you you're nuts.
He is going to write, just not help out in the comments, the problems for us Mods is sometimes we get caught up in the passion too
And some of us are working odd hours or vacationing in countries without internet (looking at you K! Where you at!)
abayarde- "All off the pain will vanish The Whagonblaster will return and with a new MOTOR and attitude even BIGGER AND stronger THE EYE of the Tiger , will knock our enemies to the next Galaxy , WE the BUffalo Nation DO not know defeat , We do not know Surrender , We only know that if we fall we get up stronger , faster, better WE have the Technology to BUILD IT"
Your doing a great job brian
It got to the point I would read the article and not the comments. It should die down with training camp.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
Yepper, I noticed the same thing myself. Unfortunately I believe it’s kind like being unhappy with your wife, girlfriend or a family member while still loving them.
As mentioned, things will calm down when the games begin.
Personally, I’m pumped…I think we’re going to be the surprise team of the league this year.
I think we’re going to be the surprise team of the league this year.
I can definitely get on board with being “a” surprise team. I’m not as optimistic about being “the” surprise team.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
That was supposed to be in reply to Michael Teever.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
by thefourwinds on Jul 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian, you've done a fantastic job
It takes hours of dedication every day to support this board. Many of your articles have hundreds of comments, reflecting that there are a large number of people who find your writing insightful. I am totally envious of people like you who can write so clearly and quickly. I think it’s a reflection of your ability that you are worn out, many boards have fewer readers and commenters.
You deserve a raise/promotion Brian!
As always great job. It must really be a pain in the arse to cover such a miserable team. As I can only imagine being a “fan” of the Bills. I have actually taken a hiatus for a while, because I do not know what I can add that is not obvious.
I will say this, I think we all should be upset with OBD and leave it at that. They (mostly Nix) have so far failed the Bills fanbase once again. This offseason will spell the demise of Nix, as he still was unable to get the job done. He had money to burn and sooo many holes to fill and couldn’t even retain our own talent (Poz).
I wish I could love another team, but I am stuck with “my” bills.
Keep up the good work, sometime there has to be something positive to report on…
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dont give up on CHIX just yet. That could be one of the major problems with our organization. Because of our (as fans) unwillingness to allow a new regime’s plan come to fruition, our front office is contantly in flux and instability in the leadership leads to weakness as a team. Look at the Steelers. That team has won more championships than anyone with the fewest head coaching changes since the superbowl era. It’s about time the Bills follow that example. While i agree that there is too much room left in our salary cap, I believe that CHIX is only picking up people who they believe could benefit the system that they have in place. I am willing to wait it out a few more seasons under this regime before throwing in the towel.
track record
I was referring specifically to Nix’s inabilty to seal the deal, especially this offseason. They targeted some very nice FA, then manage to swing and miss on signing them. Nix simply isn’t able to get the deals done.
"...You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start tellin' me it doesn't matter, then retire. Get out! 'Cause it matters." ~ Herm Edwards
"Talk's cheap. We all know that. It's like I've always said: 'Don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby.' " ~ Buddy Nix
by Jason from OH-IO on Jul 31, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
In Nix’s defense. It seems as though a few of these players only used the Bills as leverage without the intent of actually signing here. I would submit, that Clabo played that game from the start.
I would also think that unwillingness to sign with the Bills has less to do with Nix and the FO and more to do with the reputation of the team. This reputation of being losers in a lousy city comes directly from fans and the media. Let’s not assume that NFL players have some heightened awareness about other franchises. They hear what everyone says about Buffalo and adopt it.
I am just as frustrated as you are that the Bills can’t lock anyone down. And I personally would like to see a little urgency with contacting who is left in FA as well. But I would give Nix some more time to see this through. – Thinking like 1 year from now, when he has a 3rd draft, another FA period and a full season to see what he has with some of the current unknowns.
by BillsfanDan on Jul 31, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
I, for one, will never speak negatively here just to have my words read. I try to be as thought-provoking as possible when I criticize something. I truly have no idea how to run this team. If I did, i’d have a much better job. Hell, i’d have a career! At any rate, i’m fine with people largely disagreeing with me. I just hope they realize i’m supportive of the same team they are.
Having said that, I really really really want to see Fitzpatrick light it up this season? “Why Twilight, you’ve professed your Lucklove enough times?!” Because you can’t help but find him to be an awesome human being. If he pans out, then it would be such a great story. I’m skeptical, but hopeful for him to find the best season he can find as a pro.
And yes, I still want them to draft Luck.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions
Nicely said...
Honestly the BR site to me is relatively mild compared to other sites I’ve been on. With that being said I’ve seen other sites go from mild disagreements to vicious disagreements quickly which then sent the tone of current and future debates.
Brian it was good to try and nip it in the bud before the attacks get out of hand. I’m a regular on another site that was popular and had a handful regulars on this site. It took just a few bloggers to ruin it for everyone by viciously attacking until it drove most away…
Just remember Newton’s Law:
“To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction”
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A flute without holes, is not a flute. A donut without a hole, is a Danish.
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They can kill you, but the legalities of eating you are quite a bit dicier.
For whatever it is worth, I actually stopped commenting and reading comment sections for the bulk of the lockout. All of the negativity, while not unwarranted, is redundant to keep reading. And it has seemed that there is an influx of more negativity since the season’s conclusion (more so than the usual). I have no problem with reading a criticism if it is intelligent, but the kneejerk negativity is grating. Case in point: the Brad Smith thread.
by BillsfanDan on Jul 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Right there with you brother. That is exactly how I feel.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Dude……… good to have you back.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jul 31, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I am absolutely with you on that. This is the first comment I’ve even made in quite some time. I can’t stand the negativity, and I especially cannot stand the knee-jerk, unfounded comments that lack thought and argumentative evidence. I will argue with anyone about anything, but only if we are going to have a thought-out discussion.
I also cannot stand the personal attacks. I try to do my part to quell them over at DieByTheBlade (i.e. Player X is lazy and only plays when he wants to), but it is a much smaller community and frankly, much less negativity (esp. lately, thanks T-Pegs). To Brian’s point, we should all try to remember we are people, but also the players, coaches, and front office personnel are people too, so we should all try to keep the discussions to how their job performance is (in relation to the ultimate goal of winning championships) and not anything about their work ethic, or intelligence.
I’d also like to add that commenters should try and re-read their comments before hitting “post”. Sometimes you can come off as a real dick (myself included) without even trying, but if you go back and read what you wrote, you sometimes realize you came off differently than you intended, and re-word or decide against making a particular comment altogether. Not trying to be a know-it-all, it’s just a tip I figured out after accidentally insulting someone at DBTB a few months ago.
BillsfanDan, this comment was just going to be a quick reiteration to your point, but I got going on a little more as well. Don’t think this is talking directly about you, it’s really just my reaction to Brian’s post in general.
"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup" - Terry Pegula
by willgarr15 on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I opted out for awhile too
The lockout and increased work travel caused me to reduce my involvement. I tried chiming in from time to time, but had clearly lost my enthusiasm for commenting on the topics on here. I too noticed the increased bitterness and that probably played into it as well.
I’m not an eternal optimist, but I do take a long term view of the teams prospects. Especially when I can see that management actually has a plan they are following. I recall last year when we got Chan and a fair number of folks were declaring the Bills a total loss because we had an old coach who the game had passed by. The same was said of Nix too. Even though they both spoke of a desire to right the ship in a responsible manner lots of folks demanded immediate action.
I see this recent spate of negativity as similar to last year. Some may recall the naysayers who declared that nothing had changed at OBD even though Chan clearly had the team playing to win in every game (except the last one against the Jets). It wasn’t until after the narrow loss to the Steelers that some begrudgingly conceded that the atmosphere at OBD was no longer the same as when Dick Jauron was the coach.
During the free agent feeding frenzy some folks wanted us to grab the big names in the sport, regardless of where the team is in its development. Like we were missing out on instant success. I mean, how can someone seriously lament the fact that we didn’t get Haynesworth or Occhocinco? LOL
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
There are way, way too many comments on the tons of articles that you (Brian et al) guys write for me to even read. I don’t comment often, but I guess I’ll make it quality, not quantity.
So thank you for everything you do here.
Oh, and there should be a post or two about great places for buffalo wings and football outside a fifty mile radius of the Anchor Bar.
Oh, and there should be a post or two about great places for buffalo wings and football outside a fifty mile radius of the Anchor Bar.
Good idea. All you have to do is create a fanpost with the question (or start it off with a place you know yourself) and ask everyone else to chime in.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
For good wings
Go to the original LaNova’s on West Ferry. Best wings and pizza in the city, period. Their suburban stores aren’t as good.
Love the barbecue wings!
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Honest John’s. Jamestown, NY.
The Grill. Kennedy, NY.
Lena’s Pizza. Jamestown, NY.
The Hotel. Frewsburgh, NY.
"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 1, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll email you a reply instead...
As another blogger posted " I feel like I’m walking on eggshells", I have those same sentiments therefore I limit what I say and how I say it when I do post.
"A deaf person can hear better than a ignorant person."- Unknown Comedian
i know
I do not come here a lot but this is 1 of the Best NFL blogs in this network why Buffalo has not won is very Simple they are still looking for J Kelly replacement and 2 Media Markets NE NYJ that has more prestie and players are willing to take less to play for them
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Throw the Flag!
Ok, i get it now. Reception vs. penalty flag right? I thought “flag as inappropriate” due to natural internet instincts (and craigslist) . DUH to me! So i should be flaggin posts that are just plain dumb? OK, cause I’ll start flaggin! many many great posts though, love the site Brian.

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