Buffalo Bills Training Camp: Day 1 Recap
The Buffalo Bills held their first public practice at St. John Fisher College today. While none of the writers from Buffalo Rumblings were in attendance, several local media members took in the public session and reported on the goings-on from Pittsford.
The biggest news from the day were the depth charts, and it was mildly surprising to see Eric Wood start at center (with Kraig Urbik at right guard) and Geoff Hangartner no longer with the starting five. We've seen this move coming for quite some time, but Hangartner has always been the starting center when healthy.
On the defensive side of the ball, first-round draft pick Marcell Dareus stepped in for the departed Marcus Stroud with the starting line, and Reggie Torbor took over Paul Posluszny's spot at inside linebacker. George Wilson started practice as the strong safety opposite Jairus Byrd.
In injury news, linebacker Shawne Merriman lasted an entire practice - a somewhat dubious first as a Buffalo Bill -and tweeted following the session that his Achilles felt "damn good." Marcus Easley, coming off his own season-ending injury from a year ago, tweaked his knee, leaving head coach Chan Gailey to discuss the severity with the media following practice.
"I think he'll be fine," said Gailey. "(Trainer) Bud (Carpenter) thought it was nothing more than just a normal, coming off an injury, getting back into full-speed ... type of deal."
Cornerback Aaron Williams, the team's second round pick in April's draft, impressed on day one when he picked off a pass from backup quarterback Levi Brown in seven-on-seven work. Williams was also hailed for his solid jamming at the line and his strength.
"It feels good to get back out there again," starting quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick said. "We’ve spent so much time in meetings the other day leading up to this practice. We have some film to look at and it will be good to work on some things."
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Thoughts on Torber’s ability to be a starter? Or is this a temporary move until Shep can move into that spot?
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Where did Moats line up?
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by NolaBillsFan on Jul 30, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the best ILB they have now to fill that spot. Sheppard will need some time before he can step in and start.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 30, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t shock me if he started opening day though. I think Chan really liked this guy at the Senior bowl.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I support the photo caption.
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m waiting for a vest and no shirt. Well, not “waiting.” I’d be more than okay never seeing that.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Psst… you get my email?
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect
Must be like 100 degress there right?
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
are we going after any starting caliber veteran ILBs to replace torbor? because if Torbor is the starter week 1, our run defense will be worse than it was last year…
enough.....
that is why we drafted Shep and White….
enough already!!!!!
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
It is? Then why did they try to re-sign Poz?
by MattRichWarren on Jul 30, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
look...
I am a big time Poz supporter, and wanted him back way more than either Whitner or D’flo…. But it’s time to move on, and the Bills did a decent job preparing just in case we lost him…
Move on…
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
mid to late round rookies should not be the week 1 starters… I just dont see the defense improving even with the great draft this year., maybe in a couple years shep and white will be major contributors but this year they need to sign someone. and i agree with you im okay with losing poz, hes overpaid.
i agree wih tomcs
we are painfully thin at ILB. I wouldn’t mind the loss of Poz so much if we picked up a vet ILB in FA or otherwise to replace him. There are still several good ones on the market and plenty of cap room. By the way, what do you think about going after an Osi Umenyora to shore up the D-line opposite Dareus? From what I understand, he’s unhappy with his contract with the Giants and we have tons of cap room to play with.
what do you think about going after an Osi Umenyora to shore up the D-line opposite Dareus?
first, he is a 4-3 end…. second, what’s wrong with Edwards/Carrington????
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
edwards/carrington are average at best and umenyora is a large DE in a 4-3 scheme and should fit well in a 3-4 scheme. plus, signing big name like him will pay dividends at the box office.
i disagree
i think edwards is better than average and i think carrington can develop into a good starter, if he isnt one already. Osi is only 260lbs. not big enough to play 3-4end, i dont think he can fill the gap. a double team would send him 5+ yards back everytime
Fitzmagic
so spend...
draft picks and cash for an undersized 3-4 end?
Went to my first "BB" meeting today... When I stood, introduced myself, and admitted I was a Billsaholic, the other members threw beer cans at me!!
exactly
i consider 3rd-5th mid round. but maybe im wrong about shep and he can be a productive starter. I just dont see it without a normal offseason. Torbor has been a solid depth player. The thing with Osi
Fitzmagic
Osi is a 4-3 end and our d-line is one of our strengths. edwards is good and with carrington developing. i dont see a need there
Fitzmagic
nothing on our d last year should be considered a strength. Maybe CB and Safety but thats only because teams had no need to throw when they could run the ball up and down the field.
NT should be considered a strength.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
i stand corrected. but it doesnt matter how good your NT without decent ends to help plug the gaps. And LB should have been a priority in FA
i think LB was. it still needs to be addressed tho. but dareus williams edwards/carrington is one of the better 3-4 d lines in the league. dareus was the best player in this years draft arguably.
Fitzmagic
can’t say how good he is till we see him play (and I am very excited to see him play). and i still think you are overrating edward/carrington. Carrington definately has potential though.
ok. we just hav to see. i dont think wasting money when you potentially/arguably have a good d-line. I’m excited for this year, got my season tickets, like the brad smith signing. I think our offense will score points and be exciting. I just think we need to replace poz with a veteran starter and our defense will be much improved with this years draft.
Fitzmagic
Shep is a mid round rookie????
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I think someone said on here the other day that Chan and Nix considered taking Shepp in the 2nd round, so apparently they had a 2nd round grade on him. Just so happens there was someone on the board that carried a first round grade that they couldn’t pass on. Then Shep fell to 3rd round like it was Christmas all over again. So Shep starting would not be out of the realm of possibilities.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Dareus, Shep, and Williams were all considered “steals” by the Bills FO.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Dareus and Williams were both considered “steals” be a handful of well-known analysts too. Don’t remember if they included Shep too.
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
A lot of the Draft guys had a 4th round rating on Shep and thought he was a little bit of a reach. Not saying I agree though – I think 3rd round was the right spot for him.
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Hmm
Did they really try?
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing I did notice, from a distance:
Lee’s hand appear to be working just fine catching the football this summer.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
so your actually there right now?
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Camp ended at 5:30. I was there. It’s literally less than 5 miles from my house. I nearly crashed on the way there though. I saw a Ferrari 458 Italia pulling into a fancypants driveway. Holy cow do people have some serious money around there!
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you allowed to take an video from a distance? Just thinking would be nice to watch on youtube. I take it you were starring at the Ferrari and almost crashed? I would have probably done the same thing.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
try Seattle dude. Ferrari’s are common!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, not so much here. I mean, in my area i’ve seen about ten. That’s a LOT. But the weather ruins the roads so owning one is a mistake unless you can afford 85 grand a year n maintenance.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 31, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Evans...were you finally able to track him down for an auto?
Lot of players signing today….good stuff. They all seemed pretty happy to be back playing football.
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by StroudFanClub on Jul 30, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's what I came away with today:
Everyone, I mean EVERYONE looked so happy to be back in training camp. Players, workers, fans. You name it. Felt so good to see some summer football.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
cool
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What a good draft class
I say we do the Senior bowl every year!
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Here-here!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jul 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, but something tells me that in order to coach at the senior bowl, you have to be one of the worse teams in the NFL, so i’m not sure i would want the Bills there coaching every year..lol.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Easley
I love Easley, more than most. I am a big advocate of his talents, but this knee injury worries me. It worried me when it happened and even a tweak at this point is worrisome. He hasn’t done anything and has to produce a bit before he keeps re-injuring himself. I know we have depth and we aren’t relying on him much but he is a guy I want to be healthy for the pre-season games. Speed and size, wow I can’t wait to watch him in the pre-season.
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If he pans out, it’s a bonus at this point. Seriously.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jul 30, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I vote Merriman MVP right now!!!
Seriously, 75% of what he was is about 50% better than anything we’ve had in a while. It would be nice for this line-backing crew to far surpass expectations.
Agree
If 60% of the the time Merriman works all the time, then we are good to go.
by buffaloparks on Jul 31, 2011 2:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m telling you now Shawne Merriman will be giving a big middle finger to a lot of these nay sayers talking down on him at the end of this season. He will be a stud.
off subject, but has anyone heard anything about whitner?
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Good to see
I like that Williams looked good in his first practice, maybe in a few years he will be thought of as the best CB in the AFC East!
I think Shep and Moats will be good solid starters in time
but I don’t see how we ever get to the Pats or Jets level while we hardly do anything in FA (while having the most money to spend in the division) and the teams, which are already better than us, go after big time players. Maybe we need to get good to attract some of those FAs but I’m sick of all this BS about CHIX having so much faith in our young guys who haven’t proved anything. I do like this years draft, but not to fill in all our gaps THIS year.
Sorry men, I’ve been excited for each and every season this past decade I’m not doing it to myself again.
by BillsThickNThin on Jul 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions
The Pats and Jets improved how????
come on now!!!
Billicheat acquired two of the worst cancers in NFL history, and Ryan totally blew it, putting his eggs into the Ndami sweepstakes, and losing big time.. his only chance for redemption is if he can talk out his anal orifice enough to get Cromartie to come back, but they totally lack depth in ANY area if something happens…
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by Cinga on Jul 30, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dont see why everyone thinks albert and chad are a huge upgrade. and what hav the jets done besides lose FA’s. and the Dolphins dont have a QB. Idk if the bills are as far off as everyone says they are. says the optimist. ha
Fitzmagic
if it was any other team wouldnt consider a upgrade
but they have done this before with Vets and turned them around. I still dont think its a huge upgrade, but they got at least a little bit better.
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard" -Norm Nixon
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
I think it was more the fact that the Jets actually targeted a couple big name FA’s while the Bills seem to have tagged out of the FA market after they booked Thigpen. btw, what do you think of adding a big over-the-top receiver as a goaline and deep threat? we don’t seem to have anyone over 6’2", 6’3" at receiver.
But they (Jets) seem to have whiffed so far. but for the bills, i agree we dont hav that tall reciever as a goal line threat (james hardy). but i think if shawn nelson plays he could be that. hes 6’5". Also WR is one of our strengths dont see a signing there.
Fitzmagic
I agree that nelson could be, but he hasnt been and the TE position in the Chan Gailey offensive scheme seems to be more of a blocking role than a receiving one. All things aside, I don’t think we’ll be signing a WR either. Hopefully we’ll be signing a RT and ILB but all that’s been previously discussed. I’m kind of hoping Ed Wang works out at RT, he seems like a standup kind of guy with a lot of potential.
both nelsons, david and shawn (both 6’5") can be that goal line threat as they develop. I am optimistic about our RT situation though. with wang, hairston developing they could be potential starters in a couple years. I think pears can hold the position until then. The only position i am concerned for now is ILB as discussed before. but we do have good young talent there. just need another veteran presence until they develop
Fitzmagic
David Nelson?
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
David nelson not tall enough for ya?
by buzzin on Jul 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yea, David Nelson is 6'5
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jul 30, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, let’s see what Troup has to say about that.
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Troup? Absolutely not. He’s the second NT on the depth chart behind Williams.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
No problem :). He’s actually a really important part of the future of our 3-4.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Seriously?
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jul 30, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i was hoping we were going to draft him. but with us running more of a spread offense idk if he would be as good as he is now. I think troup was a great pick.
Fitzmagic
Agreed
we never know what Gronkowski could have been with the Bills, it’s just too different of a situation than he’s in with the Patriots. Any tight end will look better with Brady throwing him the ball. Troup hopefully will step up and prove we made the right choice this year
we do now
Brad Smith is that tall playa… and Nelson is 6’5… and Stevie J… well I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
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by killascript on Jul 31, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'D Ex
Go BillS!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
come on now!!!
There are less obnoxious ways to disagree with someone than saying things like this. It’s not obvious that one person’s opinion is so much more right than someone else’s.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Guys chill don’t be so critical we all have opinions it’s football time again I’m just excited that were back to playing let’s talk football and agree to disagree
by txbuffan on Jul 30, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guys chill don’t be so critical we all have opinions it’s football time again I’m just excited that were back to playing let’s talk football and agree to disagree
For anyone having any problems keeping chill — use the following at your disposal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc&feature=related
LOL @ CleanCoalEnergyAds. Even after wiping off the blood of West Virginians (Massey Energy [multiple times], anyone?), it still pollutes our country and is terrible for both the environment and public health.
by NordicBillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys chill don’t be so critical we all have opinions it’s football time again I’m just excited that were back to playing let’s talk football and agree to disagree
by txbuffan on Jul 30, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jets are thin all over there roster even if they get moss lining up across from Holmes, moss is not a wr we’ve never played b4 ….pats are the pats and a well managed smart football team and I hate it bc I’m jealous they will again be the class of the afc east… The dolphins are on a wing and a prayer hoping henne can get it and def is like the bills poor at the run stopping. My opinion jets and dolphins are an injury away from 4-12 and the dolphins may not even be an injury away.
by txbuffan on Jul 30, 2011 9:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seriously, mine too. Kind of sad about Easley though.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
i’m sure he’ll be fine. Just some post-injury aches. I blew out my knee almost 8 years ago and I still tweak it every once in a while.
Hyperextended knee
Not related to surgery, thank goodness!
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by Brian Galliford on Jul 30, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybins taking second team reps, with Coleman and Batten rotating on the other side. With Moats moved to ILB, does this mean that technically Maybin is the 3rd. OLB (after Merriman and Kelsey)?
i hope we can see some sort of return for the money we’re paying Maybin. i may be an optimist but I’m still hoping that something clicks with him and he can become the pass rusher we drafted him to be.
Anything we get now
is a bonus. But yes, I too still hold out some hope. You dont get drafted in the first round for being crappy at football. I would love to see him develop into a rotational role player.
lol
yeah sad to say!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Rookie ILB
I have no reservations against us starting a rookie at ILB should one of our guys rise to the top. Zack Thomas was an undersized beast in the middle for Miami. Let’s wait and see how the rookies progress before we declare all hope is lost. Jasper has already made an impression, and he isn’t even in pads yet. I predict our D will go to a 43 with Jasper and Williams clogging the middle, our ILB will stay very clean.
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by Montel on Jul 30, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
@Montel
Agree with everything except Jasper. I’d give him more time before expecting a return and not sure what “impression” Jasper has made thats noteworthy, or NFL related. I think he’s way hyped. Great story, but lets see him prove it on the field shall we? Exactly, he’s noteworthy yet hasn’t even padded up , wow. Pretty sure team committed to 3-4, at least that was their plan according to FO.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Impression on day one
Jasper was mentioned in the day one camp note on the Bills page as “pushing the offensive linemen back a fair amount of time”
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Obviously I am a big Jasper fan, but I wonder is it all him pushing or the O-lineman not so good?
Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Jul 31, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
If we dig deep we all that answer.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
all know that answer
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Jul 31, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
but they are not wearing pads so there can't be much contact both ways.
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True
No pads means all upper body strength. In the next few days we will see what he is made of. Size is nothing if you don’t have the temperament to go with it. Anyone remember Langston Walker?
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I need some Troup news! Can’t wait to see him in a game.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jul 30, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, me too
Ive high hopes for Torell. Seems like his dad has put him through a pretty rigerous off season. Let’s hope that core strength has improved and his technique continues to improve as well.
by buffaloparks on Jul 31, 2011 2:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Heard he looks trim and built, especially in his midsection.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 31, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

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