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Chan Gailey Disappointed With Bills' Offensive Line Play

Earlier this morning, we picked on Buffalo Bills right guard Kraig Urbik a bit for being the obvious weak link along the team's starting offensive line to this point in the pre-season. It should be known, however, that Bills head coach Chan Gailey wasn't particularly enthused by much of the blocking he saw Saturday night.

"We've got some work to do to continue to improve our running game," Gailey said after the game. "I thought our down the line guys didn't play as well as I hoped they would. We've got to who can step up and play to the next level.

"Like I said earlier, I think the biggest disappointment I have was how our down the line guys played, executed," Gailey later continued. "I thought they fought - I thought they tried - but I was not pleased with their execution. We've got some work to do to find out which of those guys can step up to the next level."

Gailey isn't one for off-the-cuff commentary, but he made these two observations unsolicited. He's already on the record saying his line lacks depth, too. If his displeasure continues this week, expect to see changes up front for the Bills - perhaps starting with Urbik's right guard spot, but perhaps not.

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Thank goodness

for a while it seemed like the fans were the only ones who noticed.

by Mindbender14 on Aug 15, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i expect a linemen to replace that other guy we cut today

Calling anybody a "career Redskin" when Dan Snyder is the owner is laughable. That dude make moves like he's some kid trading football cards. -greenwood1921

by Gpluehri on Aug 15, 2011 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

what was his name again?

by Mindbender14 on Aug 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

marvin something?

Calling anybody a "career Redskin" when Dan Snyder is the owner is laughable. That dude make moves like he's some kid trading football cards. -greenwood1921

by Gpluehri on Aug 15, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erik Flowers?

by DCRumbler on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

noooo jp something maybe gosh tough it happened just this morning freddy

albert

ahhhhhhh

carl carlson thats it ?

Calling anybody a "career Redskin" when Dan Snyder is the owner is laughable. That dude make moves like he's some kid trading football cards. -greenwood1921

by Gpluehri on Aug 15, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Marvin Mayhem…

"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix

"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez

by dnvrBillsfan on Aug 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, his name was

Maybust Hasbin

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by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The sad part is.....

He never got to …….. Give Back any of that Money he ain’t ****ing earned…… lol

by blitzboy54 on Aug 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

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by JonasPounder on Aug 15, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Busty McMabin

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by 78sackdance on Aug 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They've Tried

But wasn’t able to land anyone. This will get addressed some how or another before the season starts.

by doctork44 on Aug 15, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that his comments were referring to all of the depth players, not just along the OL. I know he mentioned the OL earlier and individually, but I got the impression that his comments after the game were addressing everyone that wasn’t a starter.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 15, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Except he talks about the running game in the same breath which limits the players he could be referring to.

by Lifyre on Aug 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also used that as his opening statement on everything, because he then talked about Merriman as well. So the “Down the Line” comment could have been a segue for all of the depth (since the 2nd/3rd teamers allowed almost 100 yards rushing on D and no push for runs on O)…

by Fanntastic on Aug 15, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The need to be more physical shouldn’t be at the expense of OL having huge gaffes.

Hangartner isn’t as physical as the team seems to like, but of the potential RG candidates he’s probably the least likely to have kill plays against him. (Although I’m not sure about Rinehart one way or the other.)

The good thing is that Gailey is acknowledging the problem; hopefully a fix is in the works.

by Pistol on Aug 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hangartner can come in and play RG week 1 if need be with very few first team reps. They’re going to use the preseason to see if anyone else can step up and play there and provide a long term solution.

by Lifyre on Aug 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’d be reassuring if they said that, and it doesn’t hurt to give him reps there, even if it’s with the 2nd or 3rd teamers.

by Pistol on Aug 15, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If its going to be Hangartner

He might as well start at center, his natural position and put Wood back at RG

by ToniKoni on Aug 15, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hangartner

Are you sure his natural position is center? He played guard at Carolina before becoming a Bill.

by Gr8fulnfa on Aug 15, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Public

I don’t think that they were unaware they needed help on the line but I think they’re now very aware how urgently they need help. I don’t know how hard they pushed for a trade or FA but it obviously wasn’t hard enough to bring in real veteran help so far.

At least it is now being publicly acknowledged and the first step to solving a problem is acknowledging it.

by Lifyre on Aug 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Urbik is terrible. Bell is laughable and Pears blows. On the plus side we do have Eric “average” Wood and Andy “plays every game” Levitre. Sad part is the whole line is subpar at best.

by BillsFan88 on Aug 15, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glass all empty?

Jeesh…I’m not about to forget about guys like Devlin, Hull, Ritcher or anyone with the line we have now but that’s even pessimistic for my tastes. And I think our OL needs some work! Like the right side could use an upgrade and some depth across the board would be nice…

by buffaloparks on Aug 15, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

BillsFan88

I am soooooo glad that you aren’t the coach or anywhere near being a decision maker for this team.

by AP22 on Aug 16, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

He gets center reps with the 2nds because that’s where they want him ultimately. However he is a proven veteran interior lineman who knows how to play but he isn’t part of the long term vision of the team. So he would be a last resort solution is no one steps up. OBD isn’t going to explain every little decision for us and without a major incident or reason they typically won’t. Neither Gailey or Nix are particularly talkative so you’re not going to have information leaking out like you do for other teams.

by Lifyre on Aug 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Umm

Supposed to be a reply to Pistol above….

by Lifyre on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Hang gets 2nd center reps because he’s a seasoned veteran and can step into the RG position if he needs to without much preparation. Can’t say the same for anyone else vying for that spot.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

However, Hang also carries a higher pricetag, and would have his contract guaranteed the entire year, so I think they might choose to give the opportunity to some one younger (cheaper).

Check out buddynixon.com for more of my work.

by cjf4 on Aug 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, he’s not the starter at RG. But I consider him 2nd on the depth chart at RG, even if he’s not listed there, because he can step in if the need arises, and doesn’t need to take very many reps there.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

cjf4

Could you explain your statement about Hang’s contract guarantee.

I’m not sure I understand what you are saying. Thanks

by mikeo76 on Aug 15, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Essentially he has enough years of vesting service that if he’s on a final roster, he gets his entire base salary for the year guaranteed, where as some of the younger guys won’t have this luxury. So if he’s a fringe player and the Bills don’t feel he’s essential in shoring up the depth for this year, look for him to get cut. It’s kind of ironic how it works like that, but I can’t really think of a better solution.

Check out buddynixon.com for more of my work.

by cjf4 on Aug 15, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I wasn’t aware of that.

by mikeo76 on Aug 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm, Hang seems like the ONLY quality depth they have, hope they dont cut him at this pt

by dgrid on Aug 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck yeah!

Agreed 100%. Although Buddy has proven he will pull stuff out of his arse, so I dunno…

by buffaloparks on Aug 15, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I really think depth is more of an issue than the starters

I’d say the starting line’s pretty average at best with a lot of talent, but the depth is atrocious. If anyone has to come in due to an injury, it’s a serious downgrade (and that’s really saying something considering our starting line isn’t that great to begin with), save Rinehart for Urbik possibly.

Fitzpatrick is really the saving grace here though. He makes them look so much better than they are with his quick decisions. However it would be nice if he had some time, or if Freddy/Spiller/Brad Smith had some holes to run behind…

by babyh on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

waiting.

once the rosters have to trim down i wouldn’t be surprised if the bills sign a starting caliber o lineman that gets cut for younger depth. I also wouldnt be surprised if we put some of our developmental o lineman on the PS. or just let them go, because our starters are mainly developmental, so we need some veteran presence, starting and depth.

Fitzmagic

by tomcs on Aug 15, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the second time in a week chan has made comment about the oline bein bad and not havin depth, TIME TO LISTEN NIX AND GO GET MORE OL NOW

by gene3083 on Aug 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

O/L Play

Really? Disappointed. I’m disappointed it hasn’t been really addressed effectively for at least two yrs. I’m not surprised.

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Direct hint

That is a direct hint from Chan to Buddy, get me some help on the O-Line.

by Coach Bob on Aug 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Move him

Move Hangartner to guard, that’s where he played before Buffalo got him. We have some serious issues on the O-Line. Buffalo could seriously commit next years entire draft to the O-Line.

by Coach Bob on Aug 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Down the Line, not Line

He was talking about guys stepping up and playing at the next level with that quote and that to me means the depth guys, not just o-line specific.

by Fanntastic on Aug 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah i took this to mean the guys that are developing also not just the O line

I thought our down the line guys didn’t play as well as I hoped they would.

Cekybo

by Cekybo on Aug 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

After rewatching the presser he included this statment and the run game in the same breath so I would take that to mean the Oline

Cekybo

by Cekybo on Aug 15, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get a Vet!

Note to Nix:

B. Waters age 34, played very well for KC last year and I believe is still available. Played for our coach so might know something about our offense. At the very least can play a year and teach some tricks to the youngsters.

by billybuffalo on Aug 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick Cole

From Philly is still out there as a UFA and has experience at RG

by HeHateMe91 on Aug 15, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Well Chan......

That’s what you get when you fill in your line off the waiver wire and have a GM who thinks it’s a sin to draft an OL above the 5th round.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Hairston was 4th rnd

by dgrid on Aug 15, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

I guess i’m still angry of them drafting Spiller over Bulaga, probably always will be unless all of a sudden the light comes on Spiller starts ripping it up, but I just don’t think Spiller has the brainpower for the light to come on despite the physical talent.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 15, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish Spiller had half the stiff arm FredEx has

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by Joe P. on Aug 15, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bulaga's not that great.

definitely not worth a number 10 pick. Okung picked at 6 is not that good either. Who is the guy Oakland picked? I heard even he is not that good.

tough to field a good offensive line.

by Bill Frank on Aug 15, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Bulaga got better as the year went along and really started coming on in the playoffs last year. OT is the 2nd hardest position to develop on the offense after QB. The main thing with Bulaga as the year progressed, that is usually a good sign they are gonna make it if it comes in their first year. He also has a superbowl ring already. I think time will show he was the right pick, so far no signs of Spiller getting any better, lots of talk he knows what he needs to do, just hasn’t translated to the field yet.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 15, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Superbowl Ring?

While I agree Spiller might not end up being very good, I disagree that a superbowl ring means that much as an measure of individual talent. It’s a team thing. Plenty of crappy players have superbowl rings. Even more great players never got one.

by Bill Frank on Aug 16, 2011 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

IF you don’t like drafting scatbacks in the firsyt round, I kind of agree with you. But similar logic leads me to not like drafting RTs in the first round.

by greysquirrel on Aug 16, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

but your point is right on

by dgrid on Aug 15, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty happy with the defense focused drafts the past two years. Thats where we are going to get our talent. The defense is just about done at some point the focus is going to swing to the offense. As they did with the defense I’d expect the OL to addressed early and often. I have a feeling the plan is build an excellent defense and game plan around the weak OL until next year. Reminds me a lot of the Steelers last year, very solid defense and well a Bills cast off at LT.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 15, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge difference
Reminds me a lot of the Steelers last year, very solid defense and well a Bills cast off at LT.

The Steelers have a QB who is tough to bring down because of his size and he could probably body slam Fitz.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Aug 16, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

QB play is why I said a lot rather then exactly.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 16, 2011 5:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What does "down-the-line" mean?

I took it to refer to the second and third string o-lines — i.e., I thought Chan was complaining about his reserve troops — but I suppose it could mean the first-stringers as well. But if it was the first-string o-line, why would he specifically call it “down-the-line”?

by Macktruck on Aug 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

great question.....I was thinking the same thing

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by Joe P. on Aug 15, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gailey has answered my question

In his press conference Monday night Gailey made it clear that his remark had to do with the second and third string and NOT the first-string o-line, who he said he was pretty pleased with after watching the game tape.

by Macktruck on Aug 16, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

as usual, a little too much angst over nothing really.

by lonestar_ak on Aug 16, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

well played sir....rec'd

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by Joe P. on Aug 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Yeah, just got it! nice.

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

outstanding.

this one is the best i read in a while. well played sir.

by ThaRealTruth on Aug 15, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Piling on with a rec’d.

by ChuckBuffInFlo on Aug 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he played for Miami Friday night…did he get released since? If so, I did not see it.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 15, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly! :-)

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 16, 2011 6:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

A real news flash

Gailey should be embarrassed to even comment on it at this point. I know I’m embarrassed for him.
Our season ended 7 months ago. There was time before the lockout, the draft, and free agency, and now it dawns on him? Unfortunately, it does not speak well for any of them. Nix, Gailey and Whaley share the blame for this situation. Frankly, I had thought Whaley would bring more to the table. If his voice is being stifled, he won’t put up with it and won’t be around long. His departure would be proof positive there is dysfunction running rampant at OBD. I already think it’s a good bet.
It surely didn’t take a genius to draft Dareus and it doesn’t take a genius to see the quality or lack of it on the OL. By many accounts, CHIX have been hailed as geniuses with a master “plan” . Yet, apparently our two “resident geniuses” didn’t see this.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 15, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

But you left out Ralph and he is the owner. I don’t think he recieves nearly enough blame/responsibility for team and its inability to sign/draft quality players. Chan’s at Nix’s mercy as is Nix at Wilson’s IMHO.

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole situation is a head-scratcher. It’s possible, but I can’t understand why he’d “allow” all the defensive draft picks and let the OL languish. What good would it do the “team” for Ralph to prevent the rebuild of the OL?

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 15, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

$$$

FA OT are expensive? We have a history of being burned by OT in past. Hence Ralph’s not gonna sign off on paying FA talent, its all i got!

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is probably as simple as Chan's believe in his ability to polish turds

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by Joe P. on Aug 15, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha!

Yeah, maybe that was the caption for the picture…something about how the turds aren’t polished well enough yet!!!

by buffaloparks on Aug 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Believe it or not, but these guys have lots of thoughts that aren’t conveyed in public statements….

by greysquirrel on Aug 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Bills Fans are smarter than the Bills Front Office?

Since last offseason, Bills fans have been calling for improvements to be made on the Oline, particularly the OTs. They did nothing to address that in 2010, then remarkably, added zero help to the Oline in 2011.

The Bills FO put the Bills in this situation thru gross incompetence. Bell, Urbik, and Pears wouldn’t even make the roster of half the teams in the NFL. What does that say about the Bills 2nd stringers?

Overmatched Olineman get injured. There is no way that Bell and Pears stay healthy for the entire season. There were servicable OL in FA (besides Clabo) that would have improved the team and provided depth. But they’re mostly gone now.

by buffaloranger on Aug 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

We also called for improvements in at QB, LB, DL and the secondary. If we had focused more on OL in the draft I feel we would be complaining about our abysmalpass rush and inability to stop the run.

by C-Barbs on Aug 16, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct.

Year two is upon us.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Aug 16, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at San Diego

I haven’t done an analysis to back this up, but I believe if you go back and track the draft position of the O-line starters for San Diego, you’ll see that they were predominantly 4th Round and later guys, at least that’s my impression. If true, the inference would be that Nix believes that a quality O-line can be built by drafting guys later and/or picking them up as FAs, which, as a draft strategy would allow a GM to use high round picks to build / continually refresh other parts of the team, rather than using the picks on the O-line.

I’m not personally advocating this strategy, just pointing out that many successful teams (e.g., Pittsburgh, San Diego, et al.) have a strategy built along these lines (look at the to Ts we were considering in FA, one was a 4th R pick, the other a FA). The various late round picks the Bills have made plus the FA signings would seem to indicate that the Bills are going to pursue the same strategy. Point is, you might just have to get used to seeing developmental guys like Hairston or Wrotto drafted and developed, with FAs augmenting those mid to late round picks.

by CGoetz on Aug 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s much easier to get by with weak Oline play when you have probowl caliber QBs, RBs, and WRs. Bills have none of the above. And actually Steelers fans will tell you their Oline was one one of the weakest areas on the team last season – besides 1st rd pick Pouncy.

by buffaloranger on Aug 15, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't advocating

I wasn’t advocating this as a draft strategy, just pointing out there seems to be a discernable drafting style they are employing in building this team. I’m long on record in my personal life bemoaning the picks of Maybin and Spiller (to tweak a few nerves) in lieu of O-lineman in their respective years.

Way off topic, I admit, but I would have taken Mallet in Rd 2 and most definitely would have take him if he was available when the Bills drafted in Rd 3. I don’t care about his perceived character issues, that guy has an arm like Kelly’s and the attitude to go with it. Yes, I recognize that (1) drafting him would have put huge pressure on Fitz, a guy the Bills are trying to build up, and (2) he’s a pocket passer, not the controlled chaos type that Gailey likes, and that (3) NE is a solid organization in which he can grow, whereas with Buffalo it may have been a blow up waiting to happen. But, in spite of it all, that kid looks like he has the arm they said he did. If so that just means more pain for Buffalo, either when we have to play against him or when NE trades him for yet another 1st.

by CGoetz on Aug 15, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Littl Faith in CHIX

How can I drink the Kool-Aid and believe in the master plan of a FO that doesn’t have room for a pass catching TE in their “Offensive Philosophy” and spends months convincing themselves that they have quality players along the Oline?

by buffaloranger on Aug 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Nix had tons of needs when he came in. a whole defense basicaly, ot, ot, qb, te, the rest of an offense besides freddy. He has decided to address the need for defensive players first. There where more needs than could be.addressed in two drafts. And two off seasons.

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by matthew62 on Aug 15, 2011 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Move Wood back to RG and Hangartner back to Center....

I still don’t understand why they moved these guys. All they did was weaken an already suspect Offensive line. Did Hangartner play that bad last season? WTF…Gailey and the boys had all summer to fix this and now its an issue again. They can only blame themselves…Let the finger pointing begin.

by Dareurush! on Aug 15, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

because ultimately Wood is the guy they want playn center.

by dgrid on Aug 15, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they didnt really have all summer

There was a lockout so they couldn’t have any contact with any players

by Gr8fulnfa on Aug 15, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and they didnt really have all summer

There was a lockout so they couldn’t have any contact with any players

by Gr8fulnfa on Aug 15, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

At this point they may as well put Hang in at RG and leave Wood at C as they obviously want him to be their longterm center and have already made their move there. They aren’t winning a Super Bowl this season so I can see the rationale in leaving Wood where they want him.

by paxon on Aug 15, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would like to see Jasper at RG

Even if he justs stands there he will force people to run aorund him

by wab2 on Aug 15, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

O line? Who can catch the ball 83 had glue for hands.

Buster Davis shore was worth a 4th round pick hopefully that will be his replacement pick.

by Joshroxx on Aug 15, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

quick review

How many O linemen did Buddy draft? How many O line free agents did he sign?

prediction for 2010 season is 3 and 13

by jpheff on Aug 15, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

couple was Chans recruits from GT

by Joshroxx on Aug 15, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but these are "duh" statements to me. Not sure how they are really news worthy.

He’s always talked about the run game being more than the just the o-line, and I take that quote to be a continuation of what he said after the game, that our backups are not up to par.

Gailey is confirming his quick judgements after the game about the 2nd and 3rd team players and the run game in particular. I guess I fail to see the revelation in those comments.

by lonestar_ak on Aug 15, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Patience

I know we want to see every facet of our team get ALL the attention they deserve All at the same time. Seems like Nix tried to make some moves for offensive players he liked but they fell through. He drafted Defense first this year because he judged that as being the most urgent. With our passing sucess from last year I can see why he would attempt to fix the second part of “Run and Stop the Run” that he has already commited to. Nix DID draft a tackle as high as he thought he could and still not miss the defensive players he wanted. The lack of preseason is going to be most evident for a young O-line because an O-line takes time to gel. Also these guys haven’t had extended time playing with each other. Most snaps go to the firsts; and seconds get most of their substantial practice plugged into the first line. Little time is spent getting the seconds to gel as a group. What little time the team has had in camp Had to be spent on the first line.

by Chazjr on Aug 15, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

but i still think a starting caliber veteran guard needs to be brought in. Pears and d. bell are good for now. Levitre and wood are good starters that can be great. i dont trust urbik because he was cut from the steelers who started jonathon scott at tackle…… maybe rinehart is better, but how much?, cause urbik looked bad.

Fitzmagic

by tomcs on Aug 15, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ON the bright side,

It could be worse. We could have the bears OL

by ToniKoni on Aug 15, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Stinchcomb

The Saints just released Stinchcomb, we should pick him up.

by JjR in TO on Aug 15, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Nervous Nellies!

Yeah 11 yrs without play-off appearance , would seem Nervous Nellies are the Bill’s, not their fans! Getting use to that though. Some things seem never to change around OBD.

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relax

Give’em another decade to get QB and O/L. Its a long re-build.

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least he didn't call us Shirley :-)

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by Joe P. on Aug 15, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shirley?

Surely you jest!

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know her…Shirley Theresaplan! Knew her cousins, too…Alotta Excuses and Ima Alltalk.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 16, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL....don't they work for the Bills in the FO?????

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If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

by Joe P. on Aug 16, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re thinking of their relatives…aunt gottaclue and Wishi knew

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Aug 16, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Stinchcomb

Stinchcomb was just released. With as bad as our line is, I think he might behoove the Bills to take a shot with him.

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~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Aug 15, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Chan may have D now

and he has skill positions, but he knows the O-line may keep him from success. I am sure he believes strongly he can win w Fitz and the weapons, but he needs a line. Buddy and ralph, you paying attention?

by BillinNC on Aug 15, 2011 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s never a good sign if the coach of your team is upset with the way that a specific group played. When the offensive line managed to not only do a bad job, but not meet expectations, Chan Gailey vented.

Halloween World

by poolepoole78 on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Direct Chan Quote - Please Correct Article Title

Chan’s Review of Game

Bills head coach Chan Gailey had a chance to go over the game film from the preseason opener and some of his initial suspicions right after the game were correct. After the first team offense and defense Gailey said there was a lot left to be desired.

"Overall I thought the ones on offense and defense did okay," he said. "We’ve got something we can build on from there. The rest of them were not very good at all and we’ve got a lot of work to try to find which of those guys are going to come up and help this football team be a championship football team. And our special teams overall were extremely poor. If we play like that on special teams we’ll lose two or three games because of special teams this year."

In light of Gailey’s assessment of the special teams play, one wonders if more of the practice time might be devoted to it moving forward. Gailey was a special teams coach earlier in his career with Denver.

by Fanntastic on Aug 15, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

To me he is saying step up or step off the team.

If he has the kind of performance we had Sat. next week look out, your ass may just be gone. His saying front line and then saying 2nds (and 3rds) seems to me to be saying WE WILL MAKE CHANGES. Don’t think it was a coincidental they let go of olwhatshisname and then this statement is reiterated. He is talking to his team and the public (in public is significant too as there is an embarrassment factor.

by zoomer02 on Aug 15, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

also think it is O and D directed beyond the first team

by zoomer02 on Aug 15, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also said “the rest of them were not good at all”. That and the quote attributed at the top of the article is in regards to the depth guys, not specifically the O line of the first team.

by Fanntastic on Aug 15, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we finally have a solid coach who wants to win. I respect his comments

by Feedjasper on Aug 16, 2011 6:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Heres a suggestion, chan: get some freaking talent and theres a good chance u wont be as disappointed.

"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."

by chaucer on Aug 16, 2011 7:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How couldnt

he be.

Way to go coach, call um as you(&we all in this case) see um.

Come on buddy, if a young back who can set off the quake meter in the playoffs & a 30yr old professional #1 receiver are worth 4th round picks what can we get starting caliber Olineman for at similar fire sales?? 3rd? Go get um?

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. If your not a superstar you best be sweating that ass off. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud."

by Blood, sweat & Win on Aug 16, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The New Orleans Saints release veteran right tackle Jon Stinchcomb

Lets hope Buddy’s on the phone this morning with this guy’s agent.

by ChuckBuffInFlo on Aug 16, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

still mastering

the reply function. see below.

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. If your not a superstar you best be sweating that ass off. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud."

by Blood, sweat & Win on Aug 16, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would but he will prob be popular

Buddy actually got 2 of my 3 targets last year(56&98) but refuses to move on an OT when Balt, SD & the Saints + have had options for us.

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. If your not a superstar you best be sweating that ass off. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud."

by Blood, sweat & Win on Aug 16, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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