Buffalo Bills Place LB Reggie Torbor On Injured Reserve
by Brian Galliford on Aug 25, 2011 4:28 PM EDT
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PrintAs it turns out, the Buffalo Bills' signing of free agent linebacker Kirk Morrison had everything to do with the health of incumbent veteran Reggie Torbor. On Thursday, Bills head coach Chan Gailey announced that Torbor has been placed on Injured Reserve, ending his 2011 season.
It's a shoulder injury for Torbor - the same injury that landed him on IR during the 2010 season, as well. Torbor signed a two-year deal with the Bills last summer, so it's entirely conceivable that he's played his last down in a Bills uniform.
We discussed this morning how much of an upgrade Morrison is over Torbor, particularly against the run. Torbor's season-ending injury also improves the chances that Andra Davis makes the team, as none of the team's young reserves - Arthur Moats and rookies Kelvin Sheppard and Chris White - appear ready to play.
The Bills still have not yet confirmed the Morrison signing. Via Twitter, we can piece together why: Morrison is still en route to Buffalo, and the Bills don't confirm signings until there's a signature.
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He might request it, if he thinks there’s another team that would be interested in him for this year.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
You think anybody is going to be that interested in him after 2 consecutive lost seasons to shoulder injury?
Might just be
Suck build up. Much like scar tissue, suck build up can severely impact an athletes career
Defense wins championships. 3-0 is a win, pretty or not
by Chronicbillzfan on Aug 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's unfortunate....
I mean, I would love it if Morrison signed, but I never like to see a player’s season completely washed away like that…
Good
The guy was taking up precious roster space as it was. Andre Davis was much more consistent from what I saw and this Morrison guy, just by looking at his stats at Oakland, is much better than both Torbor and Davis. Maybe this gives Sheppard a chance to make the roster and time to develop as a contributing member on the team instead of festering on the practice squad for a year.
Yeah
I like this guy Morrison, NOW GET US A TACKLE!!!!!!! (in the meanest tough guy voice you can think of)
There is nothing worse than exaggeration!- Me
We all say, GO BILLS and I've always wondered, where do we want them to go? I guess to the Super Bowl! -Me
Sheppard will make the roster regardless
There’s no way we’d expose our 3rd round pick by putting him on the PS. It’s 53 man roster or IR (if he’s still injured) for Sheppard this year.
Yep.
Sheppard wouldn’t last one day on the practice squad without a team scooping him up.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 25, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sheppard on the PS
He will be lost to the Bills if they put him on PS
Sorry that it took an injury, which is unfortunate
But Morrison will be an upgrade.
~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."
by Kurupt on Aug 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Is the position that Morrison will play
less responsible in the pass compared to where Barnett will play?
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
just makes me wonder...
…why was this guy still available after all this free agency period?
"Does this look as bad as it looks?" -Archer
Morrison
Morrison makes sense as a backup addition. I’d rather cover tehse bases now than Week 3 so that he’s ready to go when injuries crop up. I don’t see Morrison starting and don’t see Davis’ starting job in jeopardy. His threat would have been a healthy and productive Sheppard (didn’t happen). Morrison looks like a backup to Barnett on the weakside from what I can gather.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
From what I can tell...
most 3-4 units routinely rotate in 3 ILB because of the physical demands of the position. Look at PIT, Foote is a little more tan a back-up…
Catch the Taste!
Idea
Let’s try Morrison our at Left Tackle…
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Aug 25, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
I don't understand this " improves the chances that Andra Davis makes the team"
Make the team? I think he’s the entrenched starter. Davis in my opinion has been the best LB in the preseason. I know Barnett looked real good last game but over both games Davis has looked the best.
by As Smart as I Look on Aug 25, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
starter
Regardless of whether Davis or Morrison is the starter next to Barnett, Morrison should be on the field for a lot of plays. As TheShanks pointed out, ILB is a physically demanding position, and if Morrison is an upgrade, he isn’t going to be warming the bench all game. There probably wasent as much swaping of ILBs last season, because after Poz and Davis there wasent really any ILBs to shake your weewee at. Now we have Barnett, Morrison, Davis and Sheppard when he is fully active again….and speaking of which he is practicing again, so he’s getting there!!
Merriman
I gotta point this out. I have to say thank you and just express my huge degree of gratitude for Shawne Merriman. Why you ask am I bringing this up on a post that’s…essentially about Morrison replacing Torbor? Well it is because Merriman was apparently a big reason why Morrison (although not officially yet) is signing with Buffalo.
Chris Brown explained in a blog on the Bills website that Merriman has been tweeting/talking to Morrison for a week and a half to sign with the bills. Sounds familiar right? Merriman did the same with Barnett. I love the fact that Merriman not only brings credibility and respect to the team, but that he goes out of his way to help better our team like this. It shows that Merriman wants to be here and honestly feel that wehave the makings of a dominant defense and a winning team. Because why would he aggressively recruit two solid linebackers if he himself didn’t want to be here and why would he waste their time and waste their talent if our defense was gonna be as useful as a wet piece of paper trying to stop a charging bull or if our team was going nowhere?
In closing, an all pro knows a winner when he sees it ;)
by JBarkley82 on Aug 25, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Its like whip cream on crap but.....
I’m 100% happy with the entire Shawn Merriman experiment, besides getting hurt 10 minutes into his first practice. The guy is a winner, I have no doubt that he has worked his tail off to be ready for LIGHTS OUT this season. That in my mind gives him credibility, unlike some others in the organization. He is A+ in my book so far.
by badnewsBills on Aug 25, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Finder's Fee
Merriman ought to get a Finder’s fee for helping to recruit these guys.
Heck, for all I know – it’s already built into his contract.
If you read the link Brian has above to Morrisons twitter account
You will see A few interesting tidbits
1. a tweet from Shaun Phillips saying glad to see his two lil bros holding it down together
2. Jay Glazer tweeting the last of the MMathletics to latch on
3. The Merriman tweets asking him to come
Merriman Billieves in this team
Merriman Billieves in this team
It would be just as logical to say Merriman is doing everything he can to get talent to this team.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but if he didn’t believe in it, why would he bother?
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
The more talent he brings, the less suckitude? That’s not hard for me to understand. I think it’s a much larger leap to thinking that Merriman thinks this team is a winner.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This is also the only team that attempted to bring him back on the field after 3 years of constant injury problems. It’s not like he had a lot of options.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
what’s with all the negativity? this is a positive for our team. a pro bowl player is recruiting other high caliber players to our team to help bolster what was the worst run defense in the league. Your comments make merriman look like a chump for wanting to help the team that is helping him get his career back on track.
Your comments make merriman look like a chump for wanting to help the team that is helping him get his career back on track.
Why???? That’s exactly what I’m saying he’s doing – trying to surround himself with better talent.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was confirmed that at least 3 teams put claims on him? bills just got him bc we were the worst team in the league at the time
stands to reason that he couldve gotten a deal somewhere else at the end of last season, but elected to resign with the bills
by boomsauce on Aug 25, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Were so blessed by Merriman’s shere presence and he hasn’t proven anything in regular season, down guy’s down he’s not anything but unproven yet! Lets let him prove his worth in a dare I say a regular season game before we retire his jersey, wow are we in need of a hero!!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
All we’re saying is that he’s succeeded in bringing in some FA talent to the team. That’s a far cry from wanting to retire his jersey.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Speculation
Not fact.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not speculation when both he and the FAs have said that he had been working on bringing them to the BIlls. Morrison, for instance, said he was talking with Merriman for the last week and a half about his place with the Bills.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Opinions
And there allowed.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude what’s with all the cynicism? Oh my god, god forbid we allow ourselves to get a little excited about a player that if fully healthy, could be the best pure pass rusher we’ve had since probably Bruce Smith!! See I can do it too, but it doesn’t feel good to be a jerk about it. Oh wait 40 sacks in three years, oh heavens to mercatroids there is no conceivable way he comes back and is even half that productive.
We have had a losing team for 11 years. If you’re a loyal fan of the team, you’re gonna have to stick around, so you cab choose to be a negative cynist, or look for positives.
by JBarkley82 on Aug 26, 2011 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First
My name’s not Dude. God forbid I speak my mind. When I see a positive I’ll acknowledge it. Pre-season is quite different than regular season, not sorry that I’ll wait till games are meaningful before I get excited! You be what you want and I’ll be me, but thanks for making me a better person with your evauluation of my level of loyalty to a NFL football team. Don’t quite follow your last sentence. I’ll choose to feel/react anyway I want, until it hurts/ personally insults others. Why does a poster always get attacked for not being giddy over his NFL team? Sugar plums and gumdrops for everyone I say! Go Bill’s
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. Can we agree that we would much rather be celebrating a top caliber Bills team within the next few years, than debate on if this team is for real or not? And I apologise if I offended you by calling you dude. Yes it is only preseason and we having proven ourselves a winner yet, I’m merely excited that we appear to finally be getting some depth on our defense for the first time in god knows how long. I’m not naive to think that we are gonna go deep this year, but I really believe we are payoff bound by next season if our vets step up and play to the level they once did, we stay healthier than we have in recent years, our rooks make strides and we address the o line in next years draft and/or a solid free agent tackle. If we fail at those factors…well we are used to it lol
by JBarkley82 on Aug 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
Nice, and I can admit I can be a Debbie Downer at times:) But will always hope for nothing but a SB for my beloved Bill’s. Just a little “jaded” after some rough years recently. I agree as well that Chan/Nix are doing admirable job with what they’ve got to work with. I’ll never get used to losing but get your point. Go Bill’s.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I don’t think “believing in the team” means “believing the team is ready to win”. I think it just means he believes in the direction of the team. If he didn’t, I doubt he would do anything but try to prove he can still play and then get a contract somewhere else.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Aug 25, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t understand why I’m being considered a “downer” about this statement. He signed a contract with the team, it’s the only place he’s going to get to play for now anyway. Why shouldn’t he do everything he can to get more talent around him?
I don’t understand why “believing” in the team has anything to do with it? If anything, it seems to me he doesn’t believe enough in the direction it’s going, so that’s why he’s doing everything he can to recruit better players to the team. That seems to me to be a much more logical and reasonable assumption to make.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Stetz, maybe he wants to win more than most players. Therefore, he’s trying to surround himself with enough talent to make that more possible.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 25, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, that’s probably true. But I think that anyone who didn’t believe in the future of the team wouldn’t put in the effort he’s putting in. He’s been given a second chance, and if he was just going to play out his contract and hope to get paid or go get a bigger contract somewhere else, I can’t imagine him trying so hard to get talent here, that’s all.
It’s all just semantics. I agree with you that he’s trying to win now, most definitely. It’s got to be hard to play for a losing franchise. Also, before the season starts, are there any players who think that their teams can’t win? Haha, you always see interviews, “we’re going to surprise some people this year!” No, you’re really not.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I heard he called
Talley and Bennett….:)
Buffalo Bills or Die.
Well let’s just be happy he is trying to help
by justin1 on Aug 25, 2011 8:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if this logic is correct...
All we have to do is hope for one of our bumm tackles to go down and we’ll sign someone with some actual talent/experience!
by CPT Shawn on Aug 25, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
watching the eagles browns game
eagles o-line is trying to kill mike vick! They have a rookie 1st rounder who’s been dominated by his former baylor teammate, browns rookie dt. Also, i heard the eagles released ricky sapp, their 4th rounder a year ago, maybe he can be a good OLB prospect to us, better than coleman and maybe batten.
by Fernando brazil on Aug 25, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
also if we use Spiller
more like eagles use lesean mccoy i think he can be way more produtive for us.
by Fernando brazil on Aug 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i think thats the plan this year
they were giving him some nice screens last game and he had some good yardage.
Chan is holding a lot back in preseason
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
Just watched Lee Evans
make a beautiful TD catch……
That trade should have been conditional
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
happy for lee though
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
Yeah... I will miss that and sure that the Ravens will go there a lot
Deangelo Hall was pissed and thought there should have been a review, but Evans burned him and Flacco dropped it in there perfectly.
hahaha
I thought I would be the only one watching the Ravens while reading Buffalo Rumblings! Evans looks like a happy rookie again.
We’ve waited this long whats another year? hahahaha
- PaullyPforPrez
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Aug 25, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
and the announcers are talking about him and not even mentioning the Bills
o well, they really should have done better with that deal.
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Aug 25, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No matter what Evans does
this year with the Ravens, he wouldn’t have as good a year with us. Fitz simply doesn’t have the arm that Flacco does to air it out and really use him to his strengths.
agreed
but we were better off with him than without
"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Aug 25, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Sir
So spot on its Epic. We lack talent at QB and I’ll reach here and include O/L as one of the weakest in history!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Next you’ll hear Maybin is really good!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Merriman continued.
Ok since I was the one who brought up Merriman and him believing in the team, I will defend my statement. I’m sure Shawne realizes that we aren’t quite there yet as a team to make a serious playoff push deep into thr post season…QUITE YET. I’m not trying to imply that we r super bowl ready. What I am saying is that yes he believes the team has the makings for a serious contender and wouldn’t waste the time of talented vets like Barnett and Morrison if he didn’t believe that. Yea you could say he’s just trying to improve the talent, but a bunch of talent on a losing team is still a losing team. There is a solid plan in place here. Shawne sees it. If this team was headed for 0-16 he would have seen it within his first year regardless of him playing on the field or not. You don’t keep a former all pro, 39.5 sacks in three season beast like Merriman on your team if you’re not building an eventual winner. And you can’t say he’s only here cause he has a huge contract, because he aint making that much right now!! Again he sees a winner and he obviously isn’t playing just to make bookoo bucks. Argue if u want, but my logic sees a top level guy leading the eay to something big and special
Ugh..
Are we going to have to read Evans comments in every thread all year long each time he touches the ball? I hope not….
OH MY GOSH!!!! ...LEE CAUGHT A TD????
I didn’t think 30 yr old receivers could do that and the QB was given time to throw also!!!
Thanks again OBD or who ever is working out deals; Maybe it the Water Boy?
Torbor
He wasn’t going to start and I feel that Morrison is an upgrade anyway. And please move Moats back outside
Big deal
Torbor wasn’t very good anyway. No loss.
Yep
And Morrison isn’t a impact player either. Looks more like a player on his way out via Buffalo, just like washed up Merriman IMHO, thank-you.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree a bit. Though he’s a lil older.. Merriman still has intensity and strength. He is going to try his damndest to sideline a qb.. or lights out as they say. washed up? Go tell him that face to face and I’ll send u flowers during ur stay in the icu. Ill give u at least injury prone concern for now. But not washed up.
by Feedjasper on Aug 26, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we should unleash Jasper on some of thd doubters out there
by JBarkley82 on Aug 26, 2011 8:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
Highly injury prone, soon to be washed up:)
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If You Wish
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We know that Merriman can be taken at his word. He said he would actively recruit talent to our team and he has. He has taken time to speak with the Wang and coach him up on what to expect from DEs. I find it encouraging that he is recruiting like minded players, with above average abilities to our team. There’s been talk of a disgruntled locker room. If that were the case would Merriman have recruited someone into such a situation? People react differently to change, some by digging in their heels, others by pitching in to help bear the load. I see Merriman as helping to improve the team in many ways. If (heaven forbid) he is seriously injured and out for the season, we would have to acknowledge his impact on the team by recruiting others. I am hopeful he and morrison will play Saturday. Our run defense has grown by leaps and bounds this pre-season, and I anxious await the regular season.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
by Montel on Aug 26, 2011 1:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thank you Montel!! You know what you’re talking about. And buffalobacker, are you friggin serious?? Ok Merriman washed up. He is only entering his 7th season. He is still very young. You’re gonna write off a guy who was a pro bowler only 3 seasons ago, and would have continued his level of play, had he not been injured? That is assinine. He showed that he is clearly back to form in the Chicago game. He has been out because of minor muscle soreness. That isn’t related to his previous injuries, nor serious in any way. It takes a body a while to get reaclimated to an NFL training and playing schedule dude.
And to make a comparisons, Takeo Spikes had a serious Achilles injury when he played for us….and that was in his what 7th or 8th season or so? Uhhh last I checked he was back to form within a couple seasons. He is entering his 14th season for the chargers. He had 3 ints last year. So yea Merriman is washed up, no way he is coming back to form!!! Give me a friggin break
Merriman
Yeah, I forget this blog is only for positive comments. Clearly Merriman is gonna be sensational acquisition and add to that all the talent he’s singlehandily bringing to Buffalo its a no-brainer. Again name isn’t Dude. What has Merriman done so far since his signing on the field of play and not pre-season I ask? What? nothing! Give me a break! Unlike alot of posters here I’ll wait till Merriman actually plays a game before I call him a good signing.
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes buffalobacker, Merriman could POSSIBLY never be free of nagging injuries, but all signs point to a healthy Merriman for the first time in the last four seasons? They addressed the source of his Achilles injury, that being the scar tissue built up. He hardly played during his last three seasons with San Diego, because neither he nor the trainers were addressing the source and he would try and play on an Achilles that wasent fully healed. It wasent because his body was incapable of healing, it is because ONE original injury snowballed and continued to cause trouble for him. He may in fact be in the betst physical condition of his career, because he added MMA training to his regimine and he said he feels leaner and his hips are more powerful than they were before. Time shall tell!!
Yes JBarkley82
I too hope Merriman excells for the Bill’s, but call me cynical (others have/do). I’ll wait till he actually plays a regular season game before giving kudo’s to anyone. I hope I’m wrong! Go Bill’s!
Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!
by buffalobacker on Aug 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
No offense, but I hope your wrong too!! I understand your wait and see approach, because with our beloved bills every conceivable thing that could go wrong, including the “sure code bet.” His I hope this era changes that trend!!
by JBarkley82 on Aug 26, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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