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NFL Roster Cuts: Six Veteran Bills Sweating Saturday

On Monday, we took a second-to-last guess at predicting the Buffalo Bills' 53-man roster. Of the 28 players that didn't make the cut in that exercise, there are several veteran players that have a chance at making the team. There are six such players on the team that find themselves in that situation, and need a very strong close to the pre-season to capitalize on that opportunity.

WR Buster Davis. Signed early in training camp, the former first-round pick of the San Diego Chargers (and Buddy Nix) has been dinged and barely played this pre-season. Meanwhile, even after the trade of Lee Evans, there is some established order ahead of Davis on the depth chart. He'll have to make the team as a sixth receiver - or perhaps even as a seventh - at this point, but in Buffalo's wide-open offense, there's some logic to keeping him.

Who he'd replace: If he makes it as a seventh receiver, the team would likely be losing a tight end, lineman or linebacker. If he makes it as a sixth - which is a stretch - he'd likely be beating out Naaman Roosevelt, a favorite of the coaching staff.

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TE Shawn Nelson. Very few question the 2009 fourth-round draft pick's natural talent, but after two straight injury-plagued seasons, Nelson has again missed the majority of this pre-season with a knee injury (unrelated to his previous ailments). Nix and Chan Gailey won't keep Nelson around out of loyalty; Gailey appeared to have big plans for Nelson last year, but he's not going to hurt anyone from the sidelines.

Who he'd replace: If Nelson boggles minds to end the pre-season sufficiently so that he actually sticks, he'll be the third tight end, and knock a receiver, lineman or linebacker off of the team.

OT Cordaro Howard. An early camp injury hasn't led to a lot of publicity for Howard this pre-season, but we're sometimes quick to forget that he started some of Buffalo's best offensive performances at left tackle. He's capable of playing either tackle position, and may be ideally suited for guard. The Bills like versatile reserve offensive linemen, and that's exactly what Howard is.

Who he'd replace: There would be two prime candidates: Ed Wang, who is not quite as versatile in his ability to play multiple positions, and Mansfield Wrotto, who does many of the same things at a higher salary.

C Geoff Hangartner. As we discussed over the weekend, Hangartner's hefty salaries may make him unappealing to the team as a reserve. He has not played poorly this pre-season, but he's also not the Gailey prototype for an offensive lineman, and he hasn't been given much opportunity to move up the depth chart this summer. Still, quality reserves with experience don't exactly grow on trees, and there aren't an abundance of Bills linemen with snapping experience.

Who he'd replace: Just as with Howard, Hangartner would be replacing a lower-level reserve like Wang or Wrotto.

DE Lionel Dotson. Acquired off of waivers very quickly after the lockout was lifted, Dotson is an experienced 3-4 defender, but has not shown very well to this point in George Edwards' hybrid scheme. In fact, he's been outstripped by younger peers, while other veterans have locked up roster spots ahead of him. Dotson is a large and athletic man, but may not have the best awareness or demeanor for an aggressive scheme like this one.

Who he'd replace: We've got Kellen Heard making the team, and while we steadfastly believe Heard has outperformed Dotson this pre-season, Heard would be the guy that goes without question.

S Jon Corto. The Orchard Park native has fashioned himself a nice little career with his hometown team thanks largely to his prowess on special teams. League changes to kickoff rules have reduced the importance of that role, however, but Corto's gotten more play as a safety thanks to some shuffling at the position. He hasn't looked bad in that capacity, though there doesn't appear to be much upside, either.

Who he'd replace: Insofar as versatile defensive backs with special teams ability go, theres really only one guy Corto could surpass: veteran Bryan Scott, who is paid significantly more than Corto at this point. Still, Scott's a much better defender, and a key member of the team's nickel and dime packages.

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I don’t see Scott going anywhere. In fact I saw Buffalo using some very different three safety looks in their nickel package (Scott playing like a linebacker) against Jacksonville.

I’m assuming this was done to help control Lewis, but who knows for sure.

by EvilJohn on Aug 30, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw Scott covering Marcedes Lewis against the Jags, which tells me Edwards gameplanned for it.
I could conclude by that action that Scott is going to be the guy that will take care of that responsability in the regular season, hence, he’s makes the final cut.

by Fixxxer on Aug 30, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are calling it their “small nickel” package and yes, Scott plays ILB in it.

by Macktruck on Aug 30, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Hang and Howard

Dump Wrotto and Wang…I have no problem with that happening, at all. I know, Wang is still a prospect, but does anyone think he will grow into a starting OT?

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 30, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I have no faith in wang turning into a player.

I agree with the two you want over the other two.

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by bflo on Aug 30, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i agree w/u

corto may stick too

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud."

by Blood, sweat & Win on Aug 30, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m also in agreement about keeping Hangartner and possibly Howard over Wang and Wrotto, although Wang does look better this year. However, Chris Hairston has looked even better. I believe Wang might still be eligible for the PS.

by Macktruck on Aug 30, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

all this cuts talk is very depressing

i dont like to read speculations of which good player will be cut for money reasons…

i dont want to read about it till it happens…

by statcruncher on Aug 30, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, but I like how Brian breaks out to us.

First he covers the projected depth chart of the 53 man roster so we can see what we will have going into the season. In reality that is what matters most, still cutting lose players is always arguementative, but necessary. They all do it.

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by VanScottM on Aug 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

good player will be cut for money reasons

If they keep cutting salaries, pretty soon the Bills cap number is going to be less than the Miami Hurricanes.

by garcia76 on Aug 30, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

no way buster davis

make the team and naaman roosvelt not. Naaman was the best wr in pre season before last game.

by Fernando brazil on Aug 30, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Nelson and Corto seem like goners.

I don’t mind Howard as a reserve guard/tackle, he stepped into a mess last year and did alright, but I haven’t heard much about him this camp. I’m positive he never started at LT, as Bell was healthy all year. I think he started a few games at RT though. If he played LT, it had to be an extremely small sample as a sub.

I honestly could care less about Hang as ‘quality’ guard depth, I’m not sure he would even step in for Urbik if he went down — Rhinehart/Wrotto seems like the logical move. Wrotto has looked better at guard than tackle. BUT, I really don’t know who else can play center. So he seems like expensive insurance. Unless they’ve gotten confident in Levitre or someone else at center.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Aug 30, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty sure Bell started all the games, but didn’t he get weened into playing the whole game in the beginning of the season? Use to drive ron from newmexico nuts.

by garcia76 on Aug 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jamon Meredith subbed for Bell in pre-season, but after that (regular season) I can’t recall.

by Fixxxer on Aug 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Kelsay go. I’ll cede the “this management team likes his intangibles and that’s why he got his huganormous contract”, but he makes crazy cashola for a 2 down linebacker with average at best production. If Lee went because of 3-4 million, why is Kelsay safe? I’m not even a hater, just doesn’t make sense to me.

by garcia76 on Aug 30, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Kelsay’s not a two-down player. Not sure where you got that impression. He’ll play a ton this year, including on third downs.

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by Brian Galliford on Aug 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you’re absolutely right, I meant limited, ie, as a coverage LB. Sorry to pollute cyberspace.

by garcia76 on Aug 30, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still wouldn’t be surprised if Kelsay doesn’t make the final cut. Better options at OLB and DE,his age and contract. Probably won’t happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Aug 30, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be shocked. They just gave him over $10 million guaranteed last fall. They’re not cutting him now, and if they do they’re admitting a big mistake (which if it is a big mistake they should cut him loose, but it’s obvious by the extension that they like him).

Now, after this year, it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

by Pistol on Aug 30, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

But they paid Lee a 1.5 mill roster bonus at the beginning of the year and they cut him.

Also, I’m quite sure they didn’t realize the sudden emergence of a guy like Alex Carrington at that Jack OLB position. The guy needs to be on the field, as he is just as effective in rusher the passer as Kelsay and is a better run stuffer. Not to mention the his inability to cover.

I’m not sure if you have to cut Kelsay, but he doesn’t deserve to be starting. And if we do keep him on the team, he’s a pretty expensive back up.

by doctork44 on Aug 30, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

IMO, the Evans trade showed me that they’re willing to jettison “core” locker room guys under certain conditions, which include: younger talent with upside waiting in the wings; and hefty salary not commiserate with on-field performance. Of course with Evans it was a trade resulting in a middling pick, but Nix stated that this was not the main driver.

I’d be floored if Kelsay is on the 2012 opening day roster. But I do believe he is at risk this year. On paper being an OLB/DE provides some back-up at both positions, if not initial starter. If the options look better all around, as doc points out above, he’s a very expensive back-up.

For the record, I respect Kelsay, a stand-up guy, good leader and over achiever. Though I don’t know him personally, I think the world would be a better place with more guys like him. Unfortunately, he never had that extra step to lose and is going to be challenged competing with improved talent. Seriously, would he ever be starting DE or OLB for the Ravens, Bears, Steelers or (gasp) jets? Neither will he fit in with the Bills if the coaches feel the talent has improved that much or a notch below.

"They're Killin' Me Whitey. They're Killin' Me" -- Lou Saban

by NJBill on Aug 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd
For the record, I respect Kelsay, a stand-up guy, good leader and over achiever. Though I don’t know him personally, I think the world would be a better place with more

totally agree, great guy, a lot of bills are starting to give me the same jive, and logic tells me Kelsay has tons to do with that.

by garcia76 on Aug 30, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gett'n down to the nitty gritty!

I cant see buster making the team. I would rather have Roosevelt; he catches consistantly, even some that shouldn’t be caught. He’s a play maker and he’s a local boy which is great to see. Shawn Nelson…This project has gone on long enough. He’s always injured…bye,bye. It’s hard to comment on OT depth and I don’t want to sound like a complete idiot, so, I’ll go by what Gailey chooses. Frankly, I like what Heard has shown so far. Big Kid, eats up space and helps others make plays. I can’t recall Dotson doing much…maybe I’m wrong? I would also like to see Corto keep his roster spot. Dependable, physical, helps on D and ST’s…and he’s a local boy!
 
  It’s going to be an interesting 2 weeks because who knows who else might become available. Getting excited and I hope the best for guys let go that some may catch on somewhere and say they got a shot and it started w/ Buffalo.

by Dareurush! on Aug 30, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Special Teams

It will be interesting with the new unpopular kickoff spot, but there is still other aspects to special teams that will decide outcomes of the game. Corto was so close to blocking that punt last game and was athletic enough to miss the punter. It will be interesting but I think the guy sticks.

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by VanScottM on Aug 30, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

If he was

athletic enough, he would’ve made the block…

by doctork44 on Aug 30, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No to Buster, they are going to have enough problems keeping as many LBs as they will want. I hope they keep the local kids, I have like Corto’s play and he has improved as time has gone by, I am not sure that is true of Scott. It would be a hard choice for me.

Hang, I liked as a center but he honestly wasn’t big enough. I leave that choice up to Chan. I won’t think of it as a money dump but maybe it will be sort of.

Dotson has not impressed me, I hope Heard gets the spot, and jasper gets the PS. They both are worth development.

I like Chandler and Cassen as the 2 TEs they can free up a space by doing that and I don’t think it would be a worry that Martin would get picked up somewhere else. And if he did there will be others of similar skill sets out there.

by zoomer02 on Aug 30, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

receivers

Any chance the team keeps just five receivers on the roster if all five are healthy in time? I realize the team likes Roosevelt (and Nix likes Davis), but with Smith’s versatility to play receiver as well, I could see the team keeping the roster at five receivers like they did last year. I kind of think the team could go that route and store two receivers on the practice squad for when they’re needed.

"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix

by Port Royal on Aug 30, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

People often make a big to do about not stashing people on the PS because they’re afraid another team would pick them up, and I am almost never one of those people. But I would really be scared of someone grabbing Roosevelt off the PS if we tried to stash him there.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 30, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Roosevelt, but I don’t think he’ll ever be anything more than a nice depth player. Like you said, it’s unlikely that anyone would steal him, but even if they did, would it be a significant loss? It may come down to a 6th receiver or a 3rd TE and depending on what Buffalo wants to do in certain sub-packages, they might need that 3rd TE and probably won’t even dress the 6th receiver on the roster.

"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix

by Port Royal on Aug 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be a huge loss, no. But he’s very good for a 6th receiver, and he has had an important impact in games before. I’m also not convinced his skills are readily replaceable. The question is, if they only carry 5 WRs, who would take his roster spot? Is whomever they put on the roster in his place more important to the team, like a 10th LB or something? I don’t know if the coaching staff would think that way, since they have played Roosevelt and know what he’s capable of, and seem to like him.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m betting either Parrish or Jones gets injured again pretty early on. Having Roosevelt around would be really handy.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes tremendous sense to keep six WR’s because Gailey likes to use a lot of 4 WR sets. Of course Spiller can be used as a WR in that situation.

by Macktruck on Aug 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade bait?

What are the odds we keep a stacked WR group as possible trade bait to adress possible mid season issues?

by Feedjasper on Aug 30, 2011 11:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

fact is we are only gonna be able to keep max of 8 guys

including the 2 on the practice squad supposing we had that many. not to mention they are all undrafteds for the most part except steve and easley and jones and roscoe none of whom we would trade as Chan has big plans for steve and roscoe, and hopefully Easley. so idk what we would get for Jones and that is basically the only potential trade bait and he may still beat easley for the roster spot basically guaranteeing E ends up on the PS. so what real trade value do they bring? former 1st rounders are yielding 4th round picks. what do you propose is the value on a guy who wasn’t drafted at all? there are only 7 rounds, and it would be a stretch to think we get a 5th or 6th… and really a 7th is barely worth the time/effort/or even paperwork, IMO.

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by ThaRealTruth on Aug 31, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that strike out is unintentional.

not sure how i managed that one.

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by ThaRealTruth on Aug 31, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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