Buffalo Bills Have Unanswered Questions On Offensive Line
Buffalo Bills head coach Chan Gailey has been tinkering with his starting offensive line for weeks. First, he gave some of incumbent starting left guard Andy Levitre's reps to Chad Rinehart. Then he gave some of incumbent starting left tackle Demetrius Bell's reps to Levitre. With the regular season looming, both of those positions remain unsettled.
Figuring out which players will be starting up front for the Bills is, therefore, hard enough. It's even more difficult to surmise who will be behind them on the depth chart when the regular season begins (in exactly 11 days, by the way).
However, there's an easy way - at least to my eye - to boil down the depth chart battle to just two spots. The tough part, of course, is that using this logic, there would be four key contenders for those two spots. Head on in after the jump for a run-down of said logic, and to opine on its soundness or the Bills' offensive line depth in general.
Step 1: Determining the locks
As unsettled as Buffalo's offensive line is, it's also fairly easy to pinpoint which players are virtual locks to make the 53-man roster (to be determined this Saturday). The logic here is simple: we'll simply consider the six players that have gotten first-team reps this summer as locks to make the team.
At tackle, that includes Bell and Erik Pears. At guard, we've got three locks: Levitre, Kraig Urbik and Rinehart. Eric Wood, of course, is the lock of all locks at center.
We'll add a seventh lock, as well, in the form of rookie fourth-round pick Chris Hairston. Why is he a lock? We explained that way back in early May:
In taking Hairston in the fourth round, the Bills made their most significant draft-day investment in the offensive tackle position since 2002, when they infamously made Mike Williams the fourth overall pick. Since that point, and before taking Hairston, the earliest the Bills had taken a tackle was a year ago, when they took Ed Wang in the fifth round (No. 140 overall). In 2006, the team took Brad Butler in the fifth round, No. 143 overall. Both Butler and Wang began their Bills careers at guard.
Now we're up to seven locks. It's not the prettiest group, for certain, but it would be shocking to see any of these seven players not on the 53-man roster come Saturday evening. In that group, we've got one center, three tackles and three guards, so there's a degree of balance, as well.
Step 2: How many to keep?
Obviously, there's no unwritten rule as to how many offensive linemen a team will keep on its active roster to start a season. We do know this: most coaches like to carry seven healthy linemen on their active (46-man) game day roster, and then between one and three behind them on the 53-man roster.
Last season, the Bills opened the regular season with nine offensive linemen. That was only after they snagged Urbik off the waiver wire, however; on the day final cuts were made, the Bills kept eight linemen (and taking a look at this depth chart, you can see where gains have been made in overall depth, at least). For the purposes of this discussion, we'll assume that nine offensive linemen is the ideal number for Buffalo's coaching staff.
That leaves two open spots for the remainder of Buffalo's linemen.
Four Players, Two Spots
In my mind, this is as far as we can get in trying to figure out Buffalo's offensive line situation without seeing tomorrow's pre-season finale. I'll be watching the following four players, all of whom I believe are contenders to make the team - but I'm only expecting half of them to actually accomplish it. (Proper apologies to Colin Brown, Jason Watkins and Michael Switzer, of course.)
- Ed Wang. Until Hairston was picked this year, he was the biggest draft-day investment the Bills had made at tackle since Big Mike - as a meager fifth-round pick. He's healthy again this year after being banged up as a rookie, and has almost exclusively been the second-team left tackle through training camp.
- Mansfield Wrotto. He started a good chunk of the 2010 season at right tackle, but he's played mostly right guard this summer with the second unit. The team clearly liked his versatility enough to bring him back, as they signed him to a two-year contract extension (through the end of 2012) prior to the March lockout.
- Cordaro Howard. A second-year player out of Georgia Tech (where he was, of course, recruited by Gailey and Joe D'Alessandris), Howard played multiple positions for the Bills last year, getting his most critical playing time at right tackle before Wrotto's arrival. He's flipped between the second and third teams this summer, and has also played both tackle positions.
- Geoff Hangartner. Inherited from the Dick Jauron regime (he only played one year under Jauron and Perry Fewell), Hangartner started 12 games at center for the Bills in 2010 before landing on Injured Reserve. This year, he's exclusively been the second-team center. He has two years remaining on a four-year, $9.6 million free agent contract he signed in 2009.
Then, of course, there's the idea that the Bills could throw this logic into winds of irrelevancy if, like last year, they're able to snag an Urbik-like talent off of the waiver wire. We'll adjust accordingly if that happens.
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I dont think Wang makes the cut.
Especially since Harriston is getting LT reps.
I also think we pick up a player that has been cut.
So if we’re keeping 2 more beside the “locks” … Ill go with FA and Wrotto.
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and hairston
is WAYYYYYYY better than EdWang.
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by ThaRealTruth on Aug 31, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
looking at their roster, i think theyll wind up with 8 guys.
if they think levitre can be a decent center, hangmans out.
if they think hairston can play either tackle position, wangs out.
howard v. wrotto… howards younger, cheaper, and more athletic, but wrottos a better player right now.
i think its the 7 locks + howard.
What is the read on Wang? I haven’t watch him much. He was always gonna be a project, does he look like worth keeping at guard/tackle? If he’s not getting better he seems like the easiest to cut lose. A fifth round pick isn’t really an ‘investment’ worth honoring if the team doesnt think the return is progressing.
Hang really feels like a goner. Given he isn’t even the first guard that would step in, he is backing up one position at a relatively high price. Dallas cut loose a pro bowl center precisely cause he was being paid like a starter. Even Jerry Jones doesn’t pay starter money for guys to be subs. Sometimes insurance is too expensive. Just wish I knew that Levitre could actually play center adequately.
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The one game I saw Wang play this pre-season was not pretty
Since that 1st game against Chicago, I haven’t seen him on the field much. I will have to re-watch the Denver game to see how he did. He looked very passive and lost against Chicago and would have to make big strides before I’d be comfortable with him being on the 53.
Considering Levitre and Hariston got reps at LT behind Bell should be an indication though.
Hangartner and Howard
I think Brian is absolutely correct in saying that everything is up in the air at this time regarding these choices and that a lot will depend on what happens tomorrow night. However, if I had to guess the final outcome right now I would go with the two H’s. Hangartner is an experienced and dependable interior lineman who can do an excellent job of making line calls if anything happens to Eric Wood. His salary is higher, but he could be well worth it if there are injuries down the road. Howard appears to be the most talented of the remaining three. His ties to the coaching staff could also make a difference.
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Jerry Jones’ comments regarding Gurode,as they would pertain to Hang, “You don’t pay that kind of money to a back-up”.
In an earlier piece in the Rumblings articles this AM, the subject of the “bean counters” running the show at OBD, would also lead one to believe Hang is on thin ice.
Howard is a turnstile and nothing’s changed. I could see them going Wang and Wrotto. While their names start with "W"s, I don’t think there are many of those in our future using either of these guys.
Here’s hoping for another last minute “dive” into the big green container by Mr. Nix.
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except that
gurode was set to make 5.5m and hang is set to make, what 2m?
Wrotte has looked downright awful the times he has been in there in preseason, so I certainly don’t hope we keep for the mere purpose of not looking stupid handing him a two-year extension. Meanwhile, I think Wang has some upside that might make him worth keeping and I’d keep Hangartner as well, even though he makes way more than he should but that certainly wouldn’t make him the first player on this roster to do that (Kelsay…)
by BuffaloBeliever on Aug 31, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
That Wrotto extension was pretty insignficant. He doesn’t appear to make much more than the vet minimum. Can’t imagine they keep him because of that.
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by greysquirrel on Aug 31, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed Wang. Until Hairston was picked this year, he was the biggest draft-day investment the Bills had made on the line since Big Mike – as a meager fifth-round pick
You mean at tackle, right?
Againts the tide,I think they keep Wang over Howard. No idea about Hang, as I’m sure Gailey would like to have him around, but there’s the darn contract issue. It seems like players and teams would do more restructuring of contracts, but I have no clue about that side of the business.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think they plan on picking up another waiver addition? I believe that was part of the plan last year.
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I don’t know that a team would be smart to ever plan on scouring the waiver wire to bolster their team at the last minute. Circumstances may have been unique with Urbik, given his ties to Doug Whaley. Not sure we’ll get those circumstances again this year. I’m not counting on it.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Buddy said something along the lines of having to let go a good player or two, but that’s the sign they’re getting better.
I’m glad the waiver wire isn’t a major part of the Bills strategy from now on. I still think they knew that would be remolding this team with castoffs from other clubs. I can’t fault Nix if he’s got his strings being held.
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I’m glad the waiver wire isn’t a major part of the Bills strategy from now on.
Well, I don’t know that it is or isn’t. I’d just have a hard time imagining how they could logically use that as a key part of their process.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They did last year
3 out of our top 6 or 7 linemen were acquired that way last year, and Buddy has been very active on the waiver wire. I don’t know why it’s so hard to see them doing it again this year.
Check out buddynixon.com for more of my work.
I’m focusing specifically on this weekend. Nix has said many times that they’ll use any avenue to get better.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 31, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I Think Every Team Scans the Waiver Wire
While it shouldn’t be a major part of building a team, teams look to the waiver wire at roster cut-down time for gems-in-the-rough. One teams’ #9 lineman may be a better than another teams #7 lineman.
The Bills are deep at WR and linebacker: one of our cuts may well be picked up by another team weak at those positions.
What do you guys think of Oneil Cousins...
the former 4th round pick who played T for Baltimore that was just cut and then picked up on the waiver wire by the Browns (who IMO have decent line)? I know its irrelevant since he WAS picked up by someone else, but I was wondering what you guys thought, I am not that familiar with him.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 31, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The right side of that line is kind of a mess. Didn’t they just lose Steinbach for the year?
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by greysquirrel on Aug 31, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This is not a fun topic to discuss.
But i’d have to think they keep Howard for his versatility and perhaps Ed Wang for further development. If not Wang, then i’d say Wrotto is their guy.
Sadly, i’d say Hangartner is a hangoner. Pessimism permeates the be belief they’ll look to trim fringe that makes the most coin.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 31, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
Prediction:
I’m just starting to believe the team will keep just 8 offensive linemen to start the season. The more I think about it, the position is fairly healthy as a group and from a talent standpoint, it is fairly atrocious. Why let a talented 6th receiver, 10th LB, or 10th DB go for the sake of keeping an untalented SECOND gameday inactive? I’ll say: Bell, Levitre, Wood, Urbik, Pears, Hairston, Rinehart, Wrotto. Wang and Brown to the practice squad to be ready in case of a wave of injuries.
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Why let a talented 6th receiver, 10th LB, or 10th DB go for the sake of keeping an untalented SECOND gameday inactive?
That is a really well-worded and relevant question.
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by thefourwinds on Aug 31, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you sentiment that they only keep 8
And the extra body they will keep will be Howard becuase he can play 4 of the 5 positions on the line.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 31, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what I think as well
Gailey and Nix really value that versatility…plus Howard goes back some time with them so there is a comfort level. He has also not had near as tough a time this preseason as Wrotto has.
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by NorCal BillsFan on Aug 31, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
phew
i was missing Chambers’ GREAT ADDED VERSATILITY. Good thing we have someone new in his old role of …. turnstile.
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by ThaRealTruth on Sep 1, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
thought is any of our cuts
will still be available all season
I'm not ready to give up on our young draft picks
I guess since we are rebuilding, i’m cutting the older vets. I think what people are forgetting about is this team is getting younger every year, and to help hasten the developement of these younger players is the ota’s and minicamps in the off season. Well thanks to the lock out, this will stunt the growth of our young players developement. Then added they only had one year under the new coaches offensive and defensive systems, thanks to the lockout, there will be little growth in this area as well. But next season could be a different story. So i would rather stay with my young draft picks then cut them loose.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Aug 31, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
When in doubt
Look at which guys are Chix “guys”. So, Hang is out. Of the other 3, sounds like Wrotto is the most versitile, whcih you want for your 8th guy. My guess is #9 is a waiver pickup.
Hang 'n' Wang
It’s funny because it sounds like “Hanging Wang”. Get it…
Seriously though, I think Wang will stay because he was picked by the CHIX regime. And Hangartner will stay because it makes sense to have another experience Center on the roster if Wood gets hurt.
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Aug 31, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
And I know people...
With the last name w-i-e-n-e-r who pronounce it “whiner.” It’s still spelled wiener and it’s still spelled wang and both are still funny.
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Aug 31, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gimme Hang And Call It A Day
TWSS. Maybe?
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by buffalobacker on Aug 31, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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I think if there are any injuries on the O-line, we are sunk yet again. The guys you want to keep are not the guys you need to keep.
Go big or go home.
Hangartner started 12 games at center for the Bills in 2010 before landing on Injured Reserve
Wasn’t he just inactive for a few games and then active for the Jet game and didn’t play?
Unless the Bills are really hung up on size I would try to keep Hang as he’d be a steady player in the event of an injury, but at a smaller salary – say a cut from $2.5 million to $1.5 million. Not sure how crazy he’d be about that, but it’d probably be his best alternative at that point.
Has Urbik really been playing this well?
He hasn’t even given up a rep at RG yet, right? Meanwhile, Hang, who did admirably last year, sits on the bench. Why can’t they give Hang some 1st team RG reps and see how he does? I wouldn’t mind Bell – Levitre – Wood – Hang – Pears. Well, I would, but not that much.
They know what Hang can do. They don’t care. Urbik is 30 pounds heavier, its pretty clear they want to move away from Hang as an undersized guard, even if he’s adequate at it. Ceiling is higher on Urbik.
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by greysquirrel on Aug 31, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish they had explored trading Hang earlier in the offseason if they were just going to release him. Someone might have given us a 6th or 7th rounder for an experienced center.
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Maybe they did. We will never know….
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by greysquirrel on Aug 31, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally watched o-line play against Jax. And yes, as far as I can tell Urbik does a nice job. At least in Jax (and outside of one play in Chicago), much better than Levitre. As far as preseason play goes, Urbik is much maligned but I like what I see. He gets his hands on guys, doesn’t let go, stout. I actually think he can really be solid in that role. HE also pulled a few times and looked good doing it. Levitre I find can’t do that and he can’t cut block. So his run blocking is really a glaring problem. Yes he effectively pass blocks, but thats because he can stay in front of a guy who is coming at him, he cant impose his will when he needs to be on the attack.
Maybe its something new this year, I haven’t paid that much attention to guard play previously. But he’s driving me nuts, particularly because all anyone wants to talk about is Hang/Urbik. Forget hang, he’s looked adequate to mediocre at backup center. We overrate hang. But maybe he should compete for LEVITRE’s spot rather than Urbiks.
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by greysquirrel on Sep 1, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keep Hang
because he can play all three interior lines positions. Cut the rest and look for another waiver wire casualty.
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I was impressed with Hairson from the Jax game. On Bruce Hall’s TD in the 3rd Quarter, he blew the d-lineman in front of him 5 yards backwards and to the inside, and created a huge hole. I alos saw him go to the second level on one play, and sealed the LB for another good gain. Pass blocking was ok, but run blocking was quite good.
Add FA salary casualty
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Sep 1, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
Hangartner
Has to stay as center back-up and can play guard.

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