Tyler Thigpen, Brad Smith Make Bills QB Debuts
by Brian Galliford on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 AM EDT
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PrintThe big story from Buffalo Bills training camp on Thursday night was the debut of the team's veteran free agent signings. At quarterback, that included two players, one of whom had a strong first night with the team.
After practice, Bills head coach Chan Gailey specifically mentioned new backup quarterback Tyler Thigpen in praising the team's new players on a night filled with big plays, including a few from Thigpen himself.
"I thought Tyler did some nice things for not ever having taken a snap in our offense, at least the one here," Gailey told reporters, who also noted that Thigpen immediately took reps with the second-team offense. "We're trying to get him ready to play. I think I know exactly what Tyler is capable of. We just need to get him enough reps to get there."
Brad Smith, meanwhile, spent the majority of his evening throwing passes, as well, even though he wasn't wearing the standard red jersey issued to training camp quarterbacks. According to WGR 550's Joe Buscaglia, Smith spent time after practice with Thigpen working on throws.
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how come he doesn’t wear a red jersey? they have him listed as a qb. did he run other drills at different positions yesterday?
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by fansince60 on Aug 5, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
killin me rec'd
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Steelers had “slash”. We have “stealth”
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by fansince60 on Aug 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
they want him to get used to being hit :-)
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I am definitely routing for Thiggy...
Chiefs fans were sorry to see him go to the fins…Gailey will bring out the best him…
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routing him straight to #1 on the depth chart
:)
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by poz on Aug 5, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think all Chiefs fans are hoping to see Thiggy starting week 1.
He was a fan favorite, but unless Fitz gets hurt he is your better option. Just so you guys know, it is obligatory for someone to post this picture every time Thiggy is mentioned.
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What number is Thigpen?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
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Is it too much for me to ask that our potential QB of the future is athletic, accurate, and smart? Or at least two of those?
by k8 on Aug 5, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The Brohmance is most definitely over.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I was a Brohmancer.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought you were 100% in Edwars corner. :p
by Xaviermw on Aug 5, 2011 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it was more anti Fitz.
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I’m not anti Fitz. I’m anti franchise Fitz.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know and your closer to correct than incorrect.
Just that Franchise QB’s don’t grow on trees and drafting one early each year until you get one isn’t worth it to the franchise.
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Right
No way a team could afford drafting one each year. But it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t lose the desire to find one.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t lose the desire to find one.
Here we go with the assumptions…
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by thefourwinds on Aug 5, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew that was coming. And I typed that wrong, anyway. I made it sound like it’d be best they DO lose the desire. I simply meant that even after this season happens, even if it means Fitzy plays well enough, then they should still look at a player like Luck as once in a regime. He’s that type of player. A franchise-defining player. I’m not saying they have, will, or lead us to believe it’s possible – just that I hope they are open to options other than the guys throwing this month.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It seems as if they were willing to go after Cam Newton, just not to trade up to #1 for him.
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Oh yeah, I did forget about that. It did seem, though we may never know for sure.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I have no clue what it takes to find that Franchise Guy
What I do is watch the rest of the team and see how well they respond to their leader. How that leader utilizes every player to their disposal to make things work. Then I focus on intangibles, coaching, sheme etc… In reality, I have no clue, way out of my league finding that gem. But like most, I do have that opinion.
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i was def a edwards backer
The dude seemed to lose all confidence
When he had confidence he was good without it looked like a scared little boy lost in the mall
Calling anybody a "career Redskin" when Dan Snyder is the owner is laughable. That dude make moves like he's some kid trading football cards. -greenwood1921
by Gpluehri on Aug 5, 2011 11:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What I seen
The dude seemed to lose all confidence
was the team losing confidence in Edwards. Before the rest of us could see it.
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by VanScottM on Aug 5, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope. I liked the guy. As a person. Thought he was great with the fans. I’m sad that his very cool autograph occupies the most prominent spot on my mini helmet. I’m resigned to the fact it’s best to focus on regime/period-specific autographed helmets.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He may be a bigger disappointment than Trent Edwards, but to the NFL, not the Bills.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he is disappointing
Gotta admit when I’m wrong, then it’s much more enjoyable when I’m right!! :-)
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by Montel on Aug 5, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As an aside...
Can I just say how happy I am with our new color scheme? Even the plain practice jerseys pop so well in all the photos from training camp. Beautiful. The helmets look really great too.
Is it too much for me to ask that our potential QB of the future is athletic, accurate, and smart? Or at least two of those?
This guy would look great wearing it, wouldn’t he?
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes!
If the Bills are only mediocre, (not terrible enough for a top pick in the draft, not good enough for at least a wild card) that will be the result I would be most disappointed with. Any record of between 1-15 and 4-12, or 10-6 and higher I can be happy with. Either surprise us or continue to struggle tremendously as the young guys learn!
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by Andy Anderson on Aug 5, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that a wild-card level record is probably not feasible, and I would be tremendously disappointed with a 4-win (or less) season, because it would mean that our younger players aren’t making as many strides forward as I would like.
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well we need a way to get Luck, because a 6-10 record won’t do it without trading our draft
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by Andy Anderson on Aug 5, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
we need a way to get Luck
No we don’t…there are many viable first-round QB options coming out next year (at least projecting now). I don’t care what the cost, I want to see the other 21 guys that aren’t a QB show improvement throughout the year, that’s more important to me. I think that next year 90% of this fan base is going to be disappointed when we can’t move up and grab Luck.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Trade EVERY pick next year for him. That’s what i’d do. He’s no Ricky Williams.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As an aside 2
The new uni’s have Whitner repellant built in!
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1st and 2nd Team Offenses
If we are going to run the spread, (which we are) I understand the Buster Davis signing.
With 2 offenses with 4 recievers Gailey has to try to replicate them, Having a speedster on 1 side (Donald Jones) a strong route runner (Naaman Roosevelt) and a tall possession guy (Higgins) and a speedy little guy (Davis), this would help replicate what our 1st offence looks like with Evans, Parrish, Johnson and Nelson.
I really think Gailey is trying to give Thigpen/Smith the exact tools that Fitzy has.
I really hope we don’t run 4 WR sets all year, cause that stuf won’t work against teams like The Jets and Dolphins. They have way to many blitz packages. We have to learn to play big aswell, this is why I get frustrated that we haven’t signed a TE.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 5, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Buster Davis likely never makes it out of training camp.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I understand that completley
But like I said Gailey is trying to mirror the # 1 offence by bringing in guys that can play similar roles on the # 2 offence so Thigpen and Fitzy are throwing the same patterns and routes. Having David Nelson run a route and the Roscoe Parrish run that same route its going to be a hell of alot different, but if Roscoe and Buster run the same route it will be quite similar.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 5, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is a great point, thinking Gailey is trying to mirror the second team as close to the first as is possible.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
i have to agree
that there is validity to the thought process and its potential execution. i sure wouldn’t put it past him to see it as a way to keep a similar feel between two separate squads.
Thigpen is a pretty good player and Gailey is obviously high on him… I like that he can push fitzpatrick… but this being his team might only be lip service at midseason if we are knee deep in a Qb controversy… or worse for 14 yet… there is no controversy and thigpen is just better
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At this point, they all remind me of somewhat capable QBs who best fit as a backup to a talent franchise player. I just cannot wait for the day when they have a died-in-the-wool, honest-to-goodness, numero uno QB. We could all use some perspective on what makes a talented QB. As cool as Fitzy is, I don’t think he’s the guy to make us forget the last decade and the last 15 years of searching for an unquestioned starter at QB.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
We could all use some perspective on what makes a talented QB.
Rule one, stay away from Juniors and Sophmores that the media has pumped up because they led thier college team to more wins than losses. Stay away from players that give speeches to the media after they lose a game and a chance to win a national championship and promise to never let it happen again. Stay away from fan poll favorites, because they usually sell tickets and create contraversy Vs winning games. Stay away from National Championship Quarterbacks that win the NC and definately stay away from the QB that lost the NC game. Finally, stay away from drafting a QB in the first round with your first pick because there is no other player on your roster to support the development of that player until he is ready to step in and lead an NFL team before he is ready, just because he did it in college and we all now that College is not even close to being the NFL.
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Well then. I guess this is your own sort of personal attack on me and my support of Tim Tebow. Congratulations. Life is bigger than your continued quest to anger me.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it's more of an anti franchise QB necessity
WE all know that it is the key clog in the process, but they just aren’t out there to be had. There are way more misses than hits or every team would have one. Everytime I think of Tim Tebow I think of Silverstreak and his endless salesmanship for his services. I mean we did spend like 9 months of hearing about the kid, similiar to A. Luck. I hope Tebow does well, I just didn’t buy all the media and fan persuasion. His stats are no different than many others that have misled the future of orgaizations. Hopefully, he gets his chance and hopefully he is not forced into it. I myself don’t look at this as a one man show. We need a solid well rounded foundation first. A question for you, one I have been contemplating. How good would the Jets be if Kyle Orton was their QB Vs Sanchez. Orton is not a franchise QB, but I feel he is the missing piece for the Jets and their championship season. This is no attack on you, just a sharp difference in opinion on an endless debate.
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I honestly don’t think you can compare Luck and Tebow beyond the amount of hype they’re getting. Tebow never projected well into the NFL. Tebow hasn’t had words like “generational” or “next Peyton Manning” thrown around. Luck has.
your correct.
The Tebow era here on rumblings was by the hour it seemed. A. Luck hasn’t reached that level yet, but there has been spurts.
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How good were the Bears and Broncos with Orton? The Bears had a similar quality of defense and supporting cast. I think Sanchez isn’t great, but should be able to manage the team well enough for what they aspire to do. I don’t think Orton changes that.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fair, but obviously, I would disagree.
The jets are loaded offensively, except at QB, the Bears were not IMO. Yet they both have had outstanding defenses. Orton similiar to Fitz, knows what a defense can throw at him the majority of the time, Sanchez is still learning this.
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But is Sanchez’s potential better than Orton’s veteran abilities? None of it matters. Both of them are guys i’m happy not to have to deal with as a Bills fan. i don’t like the long-term prospects of either QB.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Fitz (the Amish Rifle) is just what we need at QB. He is very smart, can read a defense, and is tough as hell. And most of all he is not afraid to throw the ball, he is a gunslinger, and a gunslinger is what we need with the group of speedy receiving talent we have.I do wish we signed (for example) a TE like Heap or Miller but lets see what happens.Now lets see if we can protect and give The Amish Rifle time to do his job.
I think...
He’s a turnover machine who went 4-9 last season and needs to be replaced with a blue-chip college QB of the future…
by JustAskTheAxis on Aug 5, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
“Turnover machine” might be a bit harsh. I’d term it as he’s prone to fits of the turnovers.
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by Brian Galliford on Aug 5, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
almost....let me fix it
….prone to Fitz of the turnovers :-)
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by Joe P. on Aug 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yup
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if Thigpen becomes the starter halfway through the season. He has a better arm and is more accurate
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I think…
He’s a turnover machine who went 4-9 last season and needs to be replaced with a blue-chip college QB of the future…
“needs to be replaced with a blue-chip college QB of the future…”
. . . so we can begin our NEXT “five-year rebuilding” project. NO THANK YOU.
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i don't think so...
I don’t think the top 3 coming out this year (Luck, Barkley, Jones) are 5 yr projects – Bradford stepped right in and could play, same with McCoy, same with Ryan, same with Roethlisberger – there are always going to be guys who are ready to play and guys who need work… Fitz is not an elite QB, nor will he become one – in fact, we’re one of the only places in the league where he can even start
by JustAskTheAxis on Aug 5, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Nix is going to add a QB toward the end of the rebuild, not in the first two years.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
and that QB is currently playing tyro and is an 8th grader in Ohio. Let’s see….4 years high school, 4 years college. Yep, his entry to the NFL and the end of our rebuild should coincide nicely.
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by buffalobacker on Aug 5, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything, the Bills track record indicates they go through too many “franchise guys” than too few.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
like who?
Losman was the only 1st rd pick – there is a big difference between starter and “franchise guy”
by JustAskTheAxis on Aug 5, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
They said Johnson was the franchise, then Losman, then Edwards…I didn’t say anything about first round anything. They have had their “franchise guy” at least three times since Kelly, none of which panned out (or were as good as Flutie).
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Flutie, why'd you bring up that Flake?
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boooo!!!!
or YAY!!!!! i don’t even know anymore. ;)
can we just find a Philip Rivers already? (or Matt Ryan/ i would even take Flacco (well maybe)) perhaps without the odd sidearm mechanics even? just a leader who is also the right size and durability along with an accurate passer. i am tired of settling for one or two good qualities in a small guy, or a big guy who is too mentally slow. (Pains me that Rob Johnson has a ring. seriously pains me.)
I like that Brad is taking reps at qb
Have a good feeling Chan will be more innovative than anyone this year offensively now that the third qb is permanent
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by sketchydave on Aug 5, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Smith needs work at QB
After seeing Smith at camp, it is obvious how far behind he is compared to both Fitz and Thigpen. I want as much as anyone to believe that he will be a dynamic weapon for our offense, but too many of his throws were erratic last night.
I’m hoping that, and believe at this point, that it is a result of not having the proper coaching or experience at QB up to this point. Otherwise I don’t see opposing defenses buying that he will actually pass the ball or worse, hoping he passes.
I’m not surprised given he’s only thrown seven passes at the NFL level. He’s made his mark being a special teams ace. I remained skeptical that he’ll be a better 3rd option than Brown.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Smith threw for over 8,000 yards in college... I don't think it will take too much time for him to shake off the rust
I don’t know how much the Jets had him practicing at QB or throwing the route tree to all the receivers? I doubt that he would have had a lot since they didn’t have the need for him to be a QB first. Now we have the 3rd QB game day roster option, my guess is that Chan wants to coach him up to be on the field in all sorts of situations. Wildcat screen passes to Jackson and Parrish will be fun with Brad Smith under center.
One of the things that bother me the most about CHIX
is their apparent affinity for gimmicky players. Parrish, Spiller, and now Smith. Trick plays on fine once in awhile, but you can’t consistently rely on them. The Wildcat is dead for the most part. It is kind of like the fake punt…it only works if you are not ready for it. How many Wildcat snaps are we going to run this year? One or two a game? Does that justify keeping him on the roster as solely a wildcat QB? I would say no. If Smith can’t beat out Brown as a straight up thrower, then I wouldn’t keep him as the 3rd QB.
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by Joe P. on Aug 5, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even Buster Davis was a known punt returner. And I agree. If he’s going to be the 3rd QB, he needs to be better at it than Brown.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
I guess I do not get why he has to be better as a traditional QB than Brown. With the new rule does it not make sense to keep Brown on the practice squad and use Smith as the 3rd QB. That way if injury strikes we can move him to the active roster. Smith will be more valuable on gameday with his slash role than Brown will be holding a clipboard. Maybe I am misunderstanding something about the new rule.
Because if QB2 gets injured, i’d like the best QB to take the field in his place. That’s the reason I say this. Sure, it’s bad news bears if QB3 is your main signal-caller, but someone who makes a living trying to trick defenses may not be the best option to try and keep a team in a game, either for a win or competitive in a loss.
I just think about that kid on Minnesota last season. He didn’t play that well, as I recall.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Webb did play pretty well and completed 60% of his throws.
Brad Smith would be a lot better than Joe Webb if he was asked to start an NFL game or come in… Think Seneca Wallace not Joe Webb.
Webb looked great at times and like hot garbage other times
And since Smith hasn’t played for us in a game yet, I am not sure I would count on him being as good as Wallace.
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It’s like we’re comparing which oral surgery is a less painful recovery.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C’mon guys, we’re talking 3rd-str QB here. Can any of you think of a 3rd-str QB in the entire NFL that you really want to have to play in a game?
Remember who the backup QB on the Bills was last year? Brad Smith is likely to be an upgrade over him, much less L. Brown.
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personally woulda preferred that Brown got Brohm's reps...
because then we wouldn’t have wasted a season on someone we shoulda already known was a waste (i mean, flynn beat him handily in GB, and brohm will probably never be picked up by anyone else ever.)
agreed...rec'd
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true, but I would rather take those 2 snaps per game and throw the bomb to Evans or Johnson
I was never a big fan of the wildcat.
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It doesn’t seem like you can blame CHIX at all for Parrish. Nix was nowhere in sight when Parrish was drafted, and last year Chan Gailey took Parrish (who had up until that point been useless on offense under DJ) and made him a viable offensive threat until he got injured.
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not blaming the drafting of Parrish on CHIX
But they do seem to like him….or more specifically, his speed. Same with Spiller. Just hoping Nix hasn’t caught “Al Davisitis” . And you last sentence is the key….can Parrish stay healthy?
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Agreed, and I was a huge Parrish-detractor for all of the DJ era. But Gailey turned Parrish into an offensive weapon. The O stuttered last year when he went down.
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i was in similar boat
but i was more questioning his ability to make it through a full NFL season without getting broke. and so far, he has yet to dispel mentality. i am pulling for him though, accepting that if he suffers another injury, i am HAPPY to move Naaman into that role. he might not be quite as quick, but then who is? and he certainly has hands and can play… i hope he doesn’t end up getting picked up off the PS.
Who cares.....They can cut him anytime they want to
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If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
The Wildcat is dead if you can't throw from it
Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams NEVER threw from the Wildcat, They pounded New England with it twice cause NE couldn’t stop the run, once teams caught on to the fact they weren’t ever going to throw out of it it died fast.
Our situation is differnt with Smith, he can thorw out of it thus keeping the defense entirley honest. i don’t think we will use prodomently but I do think you will 10 plays a game using it especially if it’s effective.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Aug 5, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If we line up in the Wildcat 10 player per game, I will freaking lose my mind
I would like to be a team that doesn’t need trick plays to win. I would rather have Fitz throw the ball and Fred run it. On occasion, have Fred throw a pass if it makes you happy.
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I would have no problem if they plan on using the wildcat in a series, when the wildcats come in for a play, it is as if the offense lacks rythm and purpose and can kill momentum if it doesn’t work.
Plan it and execute it if the offense is struggling, have it as a change of pace, a jab sort to speak.
Shame On You Joe!
Tricks are for Chix! :)
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by buffalobacker on Aug 5, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL.....yes, and Hobbits :)
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Here's a gimmick for ya
Smith on a reverse, then throws to the weakside TE running a fly pattern behind the defense. It will work right out of the box. Especially if the TE is Chandler because he has run blocker written all over him.
"Being a Bills Fan is a Tough Job for Tough People…" – Luther6
Gimmicks are for those who can’t best their opponents tet-a-tet.
I say leave the gimmicks to Mularkey.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What, no deception plan?
Surely you jest!
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In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you and Joe P. didn’t really like the K-gun then. That was perceived as a gimmick league wide. The Bills just had the personnel to pull it off, at least to win the AFC Championship four years straight. Granted, they couldn’t win the SB with it, but the defense and coaching were as much at fault for that as the O was.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
Perception maybe...in reality the K-gun and the Wildcat have nothing in common
These two offenses are totally different in philosophy and execution. The K-gun was used to control defensive substitutions, tempo, and take advantage of matchups. The Wildcat attempts to to confuse the defense, essentially by putting an extra RB on the field who might throw the ball. The Wildcat is much easier to stop as long as the defense is prepared for it.
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I know all about the differences. My point was that it was perceived as a gimmick, and only worked because the Bills had the stellar personnel necessary to run it consistently.
My bet is that having the right personnel to run the Wildcat (including a true triple threat like Smith) could be very advantageous.
Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Aug 6, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
That Falcons offense is so horrible after all……..
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
two words.....Franchise QB
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two more words
brilliant playcaller :p
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
two more words.....Crappy Head Coach....OK, that was three :-)
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Best head coach of the aughts
And a guy who should get another chance some day soon.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I'm sure he will get another chance and I hope he is ready this time
which is the reason he bailed on us……He knew he was in over his head.
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I always read it as
Levy wanting to interfere with his staff, as the reason he quit.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Phillips and Wilson can't agree on whether he was fired or quit....why should this be any different?
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absolutely lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Question
I was just invited to Saturday night practice. Brian had made a comment on how excruciatingly boring the practice he attended was, should I expect the same? Or will they possibly have much more installed that will make it more entertaining. Obviously not looking for a “crystal ball” just advice from people in the know. Thanks
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Edison
It really isn’t that much fun, in terms of watching the plays being worked through. It’s fun to go and see the event on the whole,and it’s always great to interact with the players after practice. Autographs are a bonus, but never a guarantee. I say go, but keep your expectations a bit low.
I plan on attending today with my nephews who have never seen an NFL player in person. They’re not Bills fans (their dad is a fan of a team that shall remain nameless), so I have to be careful not to make it seem like i’m trying to make them into that.
But being 5 and 7 and meeting a gigantic professional athlete seems like a pretty cool experience to carry through the rest of summer.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree
It will be like meeting giants from fairy tales for them! Have fun, that’s a cool thing of you to do, and who knows maybe you can quietly lure them to the good side! Thanks for the advice!
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Edison
by HurricaneJay on Aug 5, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, boys don’t look great in teal.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
matchups, rotation between ones and second teams.
Players like Batten, Moats, Pears, Wrotto the new but highly looked at for the future players. Then there is Wilson at Safety, Chandler at TE and of course Troup, Heard and Jasper. Let’s not forget A. Williams, M. Dareus and Wang, Hariston, Sercy etc… there is a lot to look for or you can just enjoy the whole picture. It is far worth the experience. Leave your wallet at home and just window shop for your next visit.
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by VanScottM on Aug 5, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Relative to an actual game, it’s not the most exciting event in the world. However, if you go with a printout of the roster with #s, you can get some valuable insight into how players look, who makes a big play, etc. Night practices are better for 2 minute drill type stuff as well.
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machine gun to replace rifle?
i wonder if chan has plans to make Thigpen the new QB of the future next year should Fitzy have a mediocre to bad season?
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If Fitzy fails, I hope they test their Luck in the draft.
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
;-)
In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!
by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 5, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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