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Report: Cardinals Interested In Bills WR Lee Evans

Just a few days ago, we told you that teams were "sniffing around" Buffalo Bills wide receiver Lee Evans based on an article by the National Football Post's Dan Pompei. Today, Mike Jurecki of XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix is saying that the Arizona Cardinals belong to one of the sets of nostrils catching a whiff of Evans.

Trading Evans to get value is probably a few years too late. He had the worst season of his career a year ago and missed the last three games of the season on injured reserve. He had only 37 receptions and turned 30 years old this off-season.

It's not out of the question that the Bills could move him simply to make room on their roster. Former ESPN AFC East blogger and current Buffalo News reporter Tim Graham told WGR 550 in Buffalo today that a source close to the situation said the Bills may outright release Evans at the end of training camp based on a conversation from a year ago. With his age and $3.28M price tag in 2011, the Bills could be looking to part ways with the former first-round pick in an attempt to let their talented wide receiver depth develop.

Star-divide

Stevie Johnson and David Nelson emerged last year, and Roscoe Parrish was well on his way to a career year before falling to injury. Donald Jones and Naaman Roosevelt also looked promising in limited time and with the addition of Buster Davis and the (hopeful) return of Marcus Easley, the Bills could just be looking at the numbers game.

For those of you whose wheels are already churning, Brandon Marshall netted the Denver Broncos two second round picks a year ago after posting a Pro Bowl season. Anquan Boldin returned a third and fourth round picks to the Cardinals when he was traded to the Baltimore Ravens. Evans would not command nearly that much in return from the Cardinals. A mid- to late-round pick is all the team would get in return - but if the plan is to cut him, that's better than nothing.

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Well, I sure as heck hope they don’t outright release him. I think that would be plain dumb. But trading him for something decent would not be out of the question.

Is Fitzgerald still on AZ? I’m sure Evans wouldn’t mind playing alongside him.

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Seriously – if they cut Evans with the lack of talent on this roster, I will have truly lost all hope in the Bills’ FO. I have been fairly positive about them up until now, but cutting him would be absolutely insane.

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Agreed

They need all the talent they can get. With the emergence of Johnson, they finally have two starting WRs. They shouldn’t get rid of one now unless they can make a really good deal.

by Wild_Bills on Aug 9, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup yup

We finally have two legit wrs. Dropping Evans now after all those years of Josh Reed will be tough to swallow

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t explain how incredibly unhappy I will be.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree completely

We have a lot of promising receivers, but I see them all as similar role players for the slot. The only I think has the speed to draw safety attention like Lee is Donald Jones and he’s just too raw for me.

I’m sure I’m seeing this through my homer vision since I have been a huge fan of Lee’s since he was drafted.

You can’t just cut a starter because he’s making 3mil, it doesn’t make sense. I’m going to file it into the non-sense category for now.

by lonestar_ak on Aug 9, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be much more upset with them in they cut young talent in order to keep old talent. Gailey pretty much said Evans was a one trick pony and if he hasn’t grown from that time I can see Gailey going with a guy that still has room to grow. Have heard Evans name once or twice all camp, for the most part its Johnson and Nelson making all the plays. And not just I out ran some guy kinda plays either more like I can run excellent routs and have great hands kind of plays. We have the potential to surprise a lot of pundits and win more games then expected but super bowl contender we are not. Now is the time to develop young talent like Jones and Easley so far as I’m concerned if we can get a pick or two for Evans lets take the hit now rather then later.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 9, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, getting a pick is one thing. But not cutting him outright.

The difference with someone young (like Easley) is that he can be stashed on the practice squad.

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pick would be ideal

Unless we get a few teams interested in him it wouldn’t be a great pick, more of here is a pick so we don’t have to outbid another team for him. If its true that the Cardinals and Ravens are both inquiring we would be in a pretty good situation maybe a 3rd this year and a conditional next year. As someone who is all on board with Nix drafting style I’d be very happy with that.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 9, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evans may or may not be a one trick pony

But he’s still one of the few ponies we have that can do a trick period

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Evans may or may not be a one trick pony

But he’s still one of the few ponies we have that can do a trick period

I knew I should have copywrited that :)

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hahahahaha

Did you say that already? Consider it paying homage to a great line then :)

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this thread, no. But elsewhere haha.

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderful line then sir!

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great minds think alike.

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you guys do too!

Sorry, kidding! But yeah, Evans not only knows a trick, but he does it pretty damn well. It’s all just speculation at this point (whether we’d let him walk), but I wouldn’t be too pleased if we got nothing in return.

by buffaloparks on Aug 9, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha nice one

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t let him get you down, Poz. We’re awesome.

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed!

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is he?

I was arguing Evans was a player with a lot to prove this season. His reputation has exceeded his production the past two years. I love the guys attitude. But I can’t be so sure he’s our best receiver (or even our second best receiver) after all the production the other guys had last year.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fair

Bt his reputation preceding sure did help Stevie last year and probably will again or even vica versa. Remember on the other end of that trade is probably a 6th rounder. Ocho got cinci a 5 and 6

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe his rep is helping. But these guys see his numbers like we do. It should have been getting easier for him last year, not harder. His best years he was the only option. And that might have hurt him as much as it helped.

Ochocinco is a great comparison. It’s gonna be closer to that than say Brandon Marshall or Anquan Boldin. I think thats right. He’s younger and relatively cheap for the next two years (doesn’t need a new deal). But he’s been less productive.

I just don’t want to end up wed to Evans if he is our #1 guy putting up 600-700 yards every year. I’m sentimental about Lee, but that’s highly questionable production. Like egregiously bad. 2009 was a pass. 2010 was a disappointment. If the coaches see that again in 2011 coming, they would be stupid to keep him to appease us and lose a prospect.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

I’m not defending the idea of releasing him. I just have grown jaded on the conventional wisdom around who are best players are and how much we need them. One thing last year opened my eyes to was we had talent on the team that wasn’t getting opportunities. And this group of coaches (at least on offense) was a million times better at evaluating it and making the necessary changes.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

luv it

wish we had a stallion or two

by wab2 on Aug 9, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evans is having a good camp

Contrary to what Robot Nixon writes, Evans has made a number of long TD receptions in camp so far, and he also has snagged several balls over the middle coming out of the slot. How he will hold up under actual game conditions is anyone’s guess, but in training camp he has performed like a star WR.

by Macktruck on Aug 10, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recd fourwinds

If we trade Evans for peanuts this offseason will not be my definition of “rebuilding”

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only way i see this happening is if buster davis

Shows up and plays no way we lose a field stretching wide out with out replacement

Calling anybody a "career Redskin" when Dan Snyder is the owner is laughable. That dude make moves like he's some kid trading football cards. -greenwood1921

by Gpluehri on Aug 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

No. Just no.

I understand your point but I will still not get behind and outright release of Lee Evans no matter what happens. No way no how. He’s along way from being finished.

"You are every bit as good as everyone else, but not one bit better."
-Eldred Lee

by arbon78 on Aug 9, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bill were just bumbling until

we got a field stretching wideout named james lofton. All of a sudden kelly was not throwing picks over the middle because the safety had to roll to the sideline to help and we experienced the best four years of football buffalo has ever seen (no offense the the afl champs teams of the 60’s)

by wab2 on Aug 9, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew something smell funny...

Why else bring in Buster Davis and his 4.4 speed. Are we getting 4 OT’s for him….Oh well, A man can dream.

by Dareurush! on Aug 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade bait

I agree, if we trade Evans bring in some offensive linemen!

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by Montel on Aug 9, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

That would be a good situation. I wouldn’t release Evans outright but getting o-line help in a trade would be great

by loupiccone on Aug 9, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cards don’t have a 2nd rounder and I can’t imagine them trading a first rounder, so unless the Bills are taking a 3rd rounder or worse there’s probably not a lot here.

The only reason to get rid of Evans is if you think he’ll be surpassed by the receivers on the team. It’s not like he’s especially old or expensive. And at this point he’s cheap.

There might be sniffing around, but I don’t see anything matching up, and I’d rather stay as is. Having said that, I don’t think there’d be a big dropoff if he wasn’t on the team (but why have any dropoff?).

by Pistol on Aug 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The dropoff is he probably could have been traded for some value not very long ago.

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will be a little crushed.

As I said in the last thread about Evans, I think it’s a HORRIBLE idea to trade him. If last year was any indication, having too many WRs is not a bad thing…

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree

I agree completely, I voiced this on WGR today and was shut down by Bull Dog. My main point was how if Lee is an asset to our team, and can help us win more than letting him go then we should keep him, regardless if it means 8 wins instead of 6. We have to stop the trend of trading away our good players for draft picks in the future, it was necessary for a while but not anymore, and that mentality will get us no where (Jason Peters would be nice right about now. . .). Bull Dog liked 4 wins rather than 8 cause of a better draft pick… and was questioning MY fanhood, hmmmm

by BuffalBills'91 on Aug 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that show. Their both depressing and treat callers like trash. I’d rather have 8 wins and show improvment as a TEAM than bomb this season and maybe have a chance at andrew luck… Who knows who will shine this year.. Cam newton certainly wasn’t on anyones radar going into last year and look what happened.

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by OC-BILLS-FAN on Aug 10, 2011 12:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No way Lee gives us two wins a year. If your going to cut him next year, trade him now. He is not elite, great, nor slightly above average. CJ, Roscoe and Buster can all pop the top off a defense – greatly diminishing the role our ‘one trick’ Evans provided.

So if Lee doesn’t net us anymore wins on his own, would you still want to keep him?

by DJ O on Aug 10, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe their producers let them get away with talking about how winning more games is detrimental by hurting their draft pick. It’s so lazy and ignorant, thank God Coach Sal’s coming to WGR.

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by cjf4 on Aug 10, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

You watch

If a deal isn’t made now. They will showcase Evans in a big way the first few games and then trade him like they did w/ Lynch. I would hate to see him go but if it gets us a better deal then Im ok with it.

by Dareurush! on Aug 9, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though I think Evans still helps the team, I am ok with them trading him as long as they get something decent in return at a position of weakness. If they don’t…

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can definitely see this happening...

and personally I wouldn’t be surprised if Evans quietly asked to be traded considering what he’s put up with in his time here. Add on to that the fact of the glut of receivers on the team, I’m sure he knows his days are numbered here. If anything, it would be nice to keep him to help mentor the other young receivers but I don’t see that happening here. I definitely wouldn’t just outright release him, that’s ludicrous. If during the season he increases his production and another team is in need of another WR due to injury or to just get over the final hump I think he’s a gone.

"A deaf person can hear better than a ignorant person."- Unknown Comedian

by blknites on Aug 9, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Considering dropping him outright at the end of Camp? Holy cow…

What about Lee and 3rd for Levi Brown?

Now attending the Univ. of Hockey.

by bflo on Aug 9, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

??? we have levi brown already

I’d rather Lee finish his career in buff, we finally have an offense he has wasted his whole career in buffalo to trade him once we start passing the ball

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could get behind that

I’m for anything that makes us better this year, we will be ok at receiver without lee however we wont win more than 6 games if we don’t add another OT to start all season

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing. I think with our plethora of wide outs Lee is somewhat expendable. We have enough guys on the roster that I’m sure someone can at least provide quality. On the other hand we have Ed Wang practicing as the first team LT right now… Thats not gonna work out well…

by AirBear on Aug 9, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Player for Player Trade?

That’s the only way I could see a trade making sense. We won’t get much more than a fourth round draft pick, but we could net a decent player in exchange. Does anyone know players that might be on Arizona’s trade block. An OT perhaps?

by Wild_Bills on Aug 9, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Blah

Its still not a guarantee to happen. I don’t see this happening. Though, if the FO just simply releases him, I will be quite annoyed.

By the way, if Evans goes — is Donald Jones a speedy WR? Or would we need Easley/Davis to step up?

by JjR in TO on Aug 9, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If he is traded or worse…LET GO??? I can see him having a big comeback of a year. If it’s Arizona, It wil be like James Lofton coming to Buffalo w/ Reed. IMO.

by Dareurush! on Aug 9, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Why all this love for Evans?

He can’t get open consistently, he disappears in many games and on top of that he had the drops in a couple big games last year. He’s only really good as a decoy deep threat at this point and we may be able to replace that. Last year showed that success was more about the system than needing ‘stars’ at receiver. No matter who went in there from Parrish to Stevie to David Nelson to Naaman, they all did well. I say take a 4th or 5th rd pick and be done with him!

by Barman23 on Aug 9, 2011 8:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

All the love? All any of us is saying is that it would be ludicrous for them to release him outright. It would be the prime example of this team getting nothing in return for decent players. You cannot say Lee Evans isn’t at least decent.

It was one thing to let JP Losman go for nothing. Fine. No big deal. But if they cut Lee Evans, they will simply be showing themselves to be extremely poor at maximizing value from their roster.

Perception is reality; but if your perception is off, you live in your own reality. -- perkispower
Unfortunatly, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.

by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because on a roster devoid of talent and especially top end talent in this league, lee evans is still that. I’m all for the move, but it seems like the opposite direction for a team lacking talent, to dump talent.

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by willgarr15 on Aug 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

there are only a few players

on this team worth loving and lee evans is one of them, team player who resigned with us and never whines and has had many productive seasons with moron OC’s and no help at QB or WR or TE

new topic for brian

MY BUFFALO LUV LIST
wood
evans
wilson
williams

these guys get better each year and have some pro bowl potential

I would like to add levtire, dareus and stevie johnson to it this year

everyone else is marginal

by wab2 on Aug 9, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

The bandwagon will be full and fast and drunk and exciting - Undee

by poz on Aug 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll be better in 3 years with 2 additional mid round picks than we would be with evans on the roster

but that doesn’t change the fact that, as noted in the article,

a source close to the situation said the Bills may outright release Evans at the end of training camp based on a conversation from a year ago

key phrase in that being, ‘from a year ago;’ or before the salary cap was raised and an impending floor. i would think that conversation has little bearing with the current state of the nfl, but i’m also no expert in the matter.

however, that doesn’t change the fact that nix is an excellent drafter and we’d in all likelihood be better off a few years down the road developing the talent he drafts as well as that already on the team than with evans.

that said, this year would become a protracted training camp if evans was traded for picks. a sad hooray to ‘loose for luck!’

by beatlebum on Aug 9, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

key phrase in that being, ‘from a year ago;’ or before the salary cap was raised and an impending floor. i would think that conversation has little bearing with the current state of the nfl, but i’m also no expert in the matter.

True, but it could give you some insight as to what the current front office thinks of Evans.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 10, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

especially factoring in the fact this was their opinion before his down year in 2010… but it’s gotta be pretty tough for them to discount the nosedive our offense took after he got hurt.

by beatlebum on Aug 10, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would I be happy if we traded Evans? No. Could I get behind it if we got enough in return? Probably. Would I ever in my right mind support releasing him outright? Not in a million years.

If I was mad at the Kelsay re-signing, I will be livid with an outright release of Evans.

"You are every bit as good as everyone else, but not one bit better."
-Eldred Lee

by arbon78 on Aug 9, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF???????

Why on earth would the Bills release Evans? $3.28 million isn’t exactly an enormous amount of money—particularly for a team well below the salary cap. I’d be okay with the team trading him for a starting quality OT or ILB but I will be beyond pissed if he’s released or traded for peanuts.

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by Ron From NM on Aug 9, 2011 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

well said...rec'd

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by Joe P. on Aug 9, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasnt the marshall-to-dolphins trade for a pair of second round picks? maybe im not remembering right.

releasing him would make no sense whatsoever. at least get something right?

by boomsauce on Aug 9, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Bills are thinking about outright releasing Evans

Then something is probably going on in the locker room/behind the scenes we don’t know about.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 9, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL Network's Michael Lombardi

Suggested earlier today that the Ravens might also be giving Evans a sniff. They are looking for some veteran receiver leadership to help Flacco with Mason being moved.

by TOfireman on Aug 9, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Jared Gaither

I’m pretty sure the Ravens Oline is pretty set we might get a starting OT from them

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still a FA the last I heard so I’m not sure how he enters the picture at all.

by lonestar_ak on Aug 9, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought when I heard the report but with Gaither’s back problems….I dunno.

by TOfireman on Aug 9, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait and see what happens. I for one don’t think Lee is worth that much in a trade, last year everyone got better except Lee. I’m starting to wonder if he benefitted from our inability to develop an offense rather than was hampered by it. That being said, $3.3m is not high. IT sucks to have a depth at WR, but getting no value for Lee seems insane. I see a fourth though. And frankly, I wouldn’t be opposed.

Of course we couldn’t trade him last year, we thought we had nothing at wideout.

the Bills could be looking to part ways with the former first-round pick in an attempt to let their talented wide receiver depth develop.

Could it be that Evans is looking to part ways too? The direction of this offense just doesn’t seem to fit his skill-set.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s the million dollar question. The wording above made me wonder if that conversation was an agreement by the team with Lee to “let him leave” for a team better-suited to his goals and abilities.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2011 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I could interpret it both ways.

by greysquirrel on Aug 10, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Terrible Mentality

You don’t release or trade a very good player just because you have lots of decent players to replace them. The only proven talent behind Lee is Stevie. Nelson, Roscoe, and Jones have shown flashes of talent, but that’s it… flashes.

The same goes for our offensive tackles. Just because we have a bunch of decent players and unproven young guys, doesn’t mean we have a SOLID STARTER.

YOU KEEP YOUR BEST PLAYERS. Unless some team is willing to give us a proven starter in return, this team doesn’t have the luxury of gambling on a late draft pick.

by bruuuuce_02 on Aug 9, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Also think about this...

If the Bills were to release Evans, New England would be the first team to jump on it and pick him up. How would you feel about that?

Even in a trade, I’m not willing to sit there and watch him run next to Larry Fitzgerald and make Kevin Kolb a star… all the while we’ve got a pretty little 4th round pick that has the “potential” to be a future star. That’s a load of BS.

by bruuuuce_02 on Aug 9, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Great comment.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well we might be screwed either way. Keep him and I keep imagining him racking up another 600 yards and 5-6 TDs as our number one wide receiver. How you like him now?
Damned either way. Go Bills.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be fine with Lee getting 600 yards if he also scores six TDs. No problem with that at all.

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by Home Run Throw-up on Aug 9, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

stevie is not that proven

one year with a lot of catches and a lot of drops

by wab2 on Aug 9, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we do trade him (and I would be crushed, want to see him retire a Bill), I’d rather see him go to a good team like Baltimore. See Flacco throw TD bombs to Evans would be almost (but not quite as) sweet as if he was still a Bill. Doesn’t even have to be the Ravens, just someone with a decent team and a decent QB. Not Arizona.

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

You really care if Lee Evans retires a Bill?? What had he done to deserve that type of respect?

by Barman23 on Aug 9, 2011 8:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

2nd in TD receptions by a Buffalo Bills wr? Not to mention a WR with loads of potential thrown away by crap QB. Heck, look a back to his rookie season with Bledsoe to see how much potential he had. 800 so yards and 9 TDs as a rookie WR with an over-the-hill QB that could launch footballs.

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess – he’s just disappeared in too many big games for me to get too excited about him. I know the QBs have stunk but star receivers still can shine even on bad teams…

by Barman23 on Aug 9, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess – he’s just disappeared in too many big games for me to get too excited about him. I know the QBs have stunk but star receivers still can shine even on bad teams…

This is Lee Evans talking to basically every QB/HC/OC he’s had since his rookie year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6YMrJt7xk

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOK at...

Larry Fitzgerald without warner last year…..he was unheard from , so good post a good QB does matter

by nmocdr on Aug 10, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would of been a start on alot of other teams. He has not had a good qb situation in his carear
. what did larry fitzgerald do last year.

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lol, just almost 1200 yards..

by teddymv on Aug 9, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well thought it was less than that lets use the wide out from carolina then

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was actually looking forward to see how Evans, Parrish and Johnson do together

I think it would be worthless to get rid of him for a 6th round pick or whatever. He is worth more to us than that low pick. We wouldn’t be gaining anything by doing that. Maybe last year or the year before we would have gotten value if that is what we are looking for.

 I honestly feel bad for the guy. Great talent with no QB’s. He kind of ended up like Eric Moulds. I really think he would of been an outstanding receiver with a great team. I would miss him if he left. A class act and a guy who has never complained even with all the crap this franchise has seen over his years here.

by csc06258 on Aug 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Te

Evans to the Seahawks for Carlson seems like a straight up deal

We have to have Luck this offseason, figuratively and literally. "With the 1st overall pick pick of the 2011 NFL draft the buffalo bills select Andrew Luck quarterback out of stanford" The first words out of goodalls mouth at the 11 draft. youtube "andrew luck tackle" the kid can teach our linebackers how to hit as a second job

by J. Mackin on Aug 9, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Interesting….. not really in Chan’s model but the talent for talent is OK, I think.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 9, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a nice offer

If they hadn’t just added Sidney Rice, I might believe they’d be interested in Evans.

I would definitely consider dealing for Carlson separately. He’s a good, young TE that could be our starter for a long time….

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by Kurupt on Aug 9, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why all this living in the past…Chix is trying to build something over the next 3-4 years and Evans clearly isn’t a part of that….If we can get any value – a 4th, a 5th, any type of OT, then I’m all for it.

by Barman23 on Aug 9, 2011 8:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Evans clearly isn’t a part of that

What makes you say this?

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by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is he bridging when he’s realistically the 3rd or 4th best receiver on the team right now. He hasn’t been a real impact player for the last few years…I’d rather see Easley get a roster spot with the potential for a bright future than see Lee Evans get 40 catches a season for the next two years

by Barman23 on Aug 9, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Evans is certainly better than the 3rd or 4th best on this team

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by poz on Aug 9, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given equal play time and opportunity I think it would be a close race. Stevie, Rosco and Nelson should all put up good numbers this year. No matter what I am psyched to see teams deal with our 4 WR sets this year.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 9, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

chix is supposed to be building something for next year

if my memory serves me he said it was a 3 year rebuilding process and i think he signed a three year deal. If i were him i would sign gaither and stash him on the IR for next season and then use first pick for a stud LT and use gaither at RT

by wab2 on Aug 9, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure this has been a 5-year rebuilding project.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teams can show interest all they want but I don’t think buffalo wants to trade him.

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I really hope that’s the case.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We haven’t heard reports that buffalo is shopping him around. Just teams are showing interest. We can show interest in jay cutler I don’t think that trade would hapPen

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 9:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Good point.

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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think buffalo wants to trade him.

It was reported above that it’s possible the Bills are considering cutting him outright.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It clearly says if the plan is to trade him a mid to late round pick is betterb than nothing. I didn’t see anything that said that was a plan.

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 9:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“Former ESPN AFC East blogger and current Buffalo News reporter Tim Graham told WGR 550 in Buffalo today that a source close to the situation said the Bills may outright release Evans at the end of training camp based on a conversation from a year ago.”

by MattRichWarren on Aug 10, 2011 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Former? When did he leave ESPN?

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

A couple weeks ago, he’s back at the Buffalo News. Personally I thought he would have been better off staying with the Worldwide Leader.

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by cjf4 on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea why someone would leave ESPN for the Buffalo News. The job must have been stressful. It’s cool he’s a “local boy” again, but I would kill to have a job like his was with ESPN.

Hmm………………..

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes bigger isn't always better...

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I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this a good time?

TWSS…..Ooooooohhhhhhh :-)

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by Joe P. on Aug 10, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seen the writing on the wall for a while

Lee has a high price tag, in a talented group, where he isnt utilized in accordance to what he is paid. Roscoe and/or Brad Smith can stretch the feild and be as effective as Lee was last year, we have seen Nelson becoming a staple in the slot; Stevie isnt going anywhere, Easley, Jones, and now Buster Davis, plus some of the guys in camp like Roosevelt. Where does Lee fit in?

Perfect scenerio would be to Denver for Clady…either way I say OT and 4th or 5th round pick and im happy with this.

by NHBillzFan on Aug 9, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to count on Roscoe or Brad Smith stretching the field and I would seriously doubt Clady for Evans ever happening, that is ludicrous.

by garcia76 on Aug 10, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

trade him

i would be happy with a 3 round pick for him

by billsboyz on Aug 9, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The only way I would be in favor of trading Lee ...

is if we could get back a starting tackle. That seems very unlikely, on it’s own. But what if we were to deal Lee and draft pick of our own. Would Lee Evans and a 2nd or 3rd round pick be worth a starting LT or RT to anyone in the league? Maybe a team team who has the deth we sorely lack on the o-line, but is short on receivers. I also would have been in favor of dropping Lee to use that money on one of the top tackles in free agency, but that ship has sailed.

by gwattsbdw on Aug 9, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll be so pissed off if they release Evans or trade him for a cruddy 6th round pick. This is getting ridiculous.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

would you get pissed

if they release Lee but make the playoffs?

by NHBillzFan on Aug 9, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be happy they made the playoffs, but still pissed they released Lee… The reason I want to keep Lee is because he makes the team better, so they can get to the playoffs.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A lot of the pro Evans people want him because he draws attention and allowed Stevie to do his thing. There is no saying that Stevie can’t draw attention and let Neslon, Jones or Easley do their thing for a break out year. You don’t have to be the fastest guy to demand attention getting open is getting open no matter how you do it. Hell if speed was all you needed I would be in the NFL so what if I am 5’6" I was super fast right up until I destroyed my ankle after making a leaping throw in baseball.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 9, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think with Stevie’s emergence, teams will be focusing on him as often as Lee if not more so. I think Lee could have a nice year. And if we’ve got both of them doing well, it will also open things up for other guys.

I guess its kind of a chicken/egg thing.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is a BS rumor.

Seriously? The Bills were going to release him at the end of camp?
Stupid talk.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Aug 9, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

That was my first reaction as well.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, it makes very little sense.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men." -Unnamed NFL CBA negotiator

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Aug 9, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yah same here believe it when I see it. Less davis puts up 2000 yards in preseason.

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by matthew62 on Aug 9, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

don’t forget the 73 touchdowns.

by ausbillsfan on Aug 10, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chan called him out last year and already this year. It would shock me but not come out of left field. Tim Graham is reliable but again, his source spoke to him a year ago. I think that says more about what Nix/Gailey thought about Lee’s future with the club and the rebuild. If they don’t see him as part of the next playoff team…. well then he might be better off as a draft pick.

by MattRichWarren on Aug 10, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

no experience

If we cut ties with Evans then not only do we lose a good receiver but we also lose that experience that we need to teach our young receivers the ropes

by morpheus123456 on Aug 9, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

From what I undestand

Lee isn’t exactly the best rout runner and doesn’t do much over the middle how long does it take to teach someone to run faster then the other guy? Stevie has had years to learn from Lee and for that period of time TO. Personally I feel a WR can learn more from his QB as that relationship is mutually beneficial. Stevie is perfectly capable to imparting basic wisdom to ther other WR’s.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Aug 9, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Evans leaves the team and it isn’t part of a deal that gets us a starting OT this year I will feel pretty sorry for Fitz. He’s coming in with a year of knowing the system and throwing to the same receivers. Getting rid of our #1 deep threat in the year Fitz is supposed to prove that he belongs in the forseeable future with our franchise certainly wouldn’t help his chances. Not to say a quality deal (as Kurupt aptly put it) wouldn’t help our franchise more in the long term, and not that WR corps doesn’t have a lot of potential…I’m just rooting for the guy to have a great year and we are a better team THIS YEAR with Lee than without him.

by C-Barbs on Aug 9, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty disgusting report. I can only hope it’s misguided, but unfortunately, Graham would seem to be a reliable source. Keep the cap space coming. Kelsay’s contract is up in 4 years.

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by Port Royal on Aug 9, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

drive up the price....

if it’s true, since word here in B’more is the Ravens also want him pretty bad…

That said, I think we should keep him. Yes, we have a lot of talent developing behind him, but remember the major drop off once he was out of the lineup last year? With Stevie’s emergence, teams can no longer focus just on Evans… Let’s see what we have for another year…

Knowing however, whoever we cut from the roster now, will be snatched up in a heartbeat by someone else… Isn’t it nice to finally be deep in a major position???

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by Cinga on Aug 9, 2011 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Off subject but talking Evans trade has me thinking OT

Mario Henderson is available! he just caught a gun charge but so did Marshawn and Lynch couldn’t play OT

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

jonathan scott, kirk chambers, and langston walker are all available

who cares if DickCo. didn’t like them, would at least add competition at the thinnest position

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonathan Scott resigned with Steelers and will be one of their starting OT's.

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I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Aug 10, 2011 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Jonathan Scott re-signed with Steelers and will be one of their starting OT’s.”

by MattRichWarren on Aug 10, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is Lee's value?

I am against trading him, but what could we realistically get for him? Yes, he had a down year last year, but he’s been healthy most of his career. Conceivably he still has at least a four or five years’ contract worth of production out of him.

I think other teams recognize the fact that he’s been in a bad situation for so long, and maybe in a better system he could really produce. What would teams be wiling to part with? Would you take a 3rd rounder? Does anyone think we could get a 2nd? I don’t, but if Nix can squeeze a second round draft pick out of Arizona or Baltimore, I might be okay with that.

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by stetzwebs on Aug 9, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

2 words

NO WAY !!

His work ethic alone is worth keeping him. He teaches our young guys how to practice and play the game. IMO his bad year was Gailey’s fault. First they pick the dead horse to lead us in Edwards and once 25% of the season was gone, they make a switch at QB but never use Evans any other way than stretching the field. Our O-Line looked like swiss cheese and our QB had no time whatsoever to get the long bomb to evans. Stevie Johnson owes a lot of his success last year to the other guy that took the attention off of him. As soon as Lee was out so was Johnson’s star – what does that tell you?

They need to give Lee the opportunity to run other patterns than the 9

Lee still has 4-5 more great seasons in him – this would be a huge mistake.

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Aug 9, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree

You draft guys in the first round hoping they retire with your team and are just like Lee, and yes he WAS clearly our #1 wr last season because he drew coverage.
BUT, during this rebuild if we could get something worth while for him it might be best to lose a #1 receiver this season for the sake of the rebuild.

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great seasons?

Hes had one real good season to date. I doubt we’re getting 4-5 great ones out of him now.

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by bflo on Aug 9, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree

History Lesson:

2006 – Fairchild / Losman
2007 – Fairchild / Losman & Cpt Checkdown (QB controversy)
2008 – Turk Schonert (idiot)/ Cpt Checkdown
2009 – Turk gets fired 2 weeks prior to season replaced by someone with absolutely NO experience and no system / Cpt Checkdown (plus, the Great Jauron wasted the whole off season practicing the no-huddle. Add in the incredibly stupid idea of bringing in BATMAN, let’s just say that Evans was certainly not in a favorable situation
2010 – Gailey / QB controversy once again (Edwards/Fitzy) and when Fitzy finally got his chance, he naturally threw to the WRs that he felt more comfortable with like Stevie, guys who were all backups during the same 2y stretch.

Meanwhile during all these crappy years did Evans ever say anything negative? Does anybody actually think that his lack of production during those god awful years were truly him losing a step? No other star receiver out there could have done any better and I absolutely guarantee that they would have complained and been a big distraction. Lee Evans is our top guy and should continue to be our top guy. We finally seem to have some momentum going offensively and I am convinced that Evans will have a huge year in Buffalo. He’s only 30y old and has easily 4-5 years left in the tank.

I blame Gailey for not getting him more involved last year and instead just using him to stretch defenses. I also think he had his hands full with Spiller. Now that Gailey has settled in with this team and has some stability at QB, WR2, WR3, RB1 – I am convinced that he can design some plays in the short to medium parts of the field to get our #1 guy more touches. Lee Evans will have a great year mark my words. If Nix trades him I will be extremely upset.

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Really well stated and accurate towards Lee.

by ChuckBuffInFlo on Aug 10, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps a trade clause that gives us a 4th rounder

or 3rd if Lee has a good season, or 2nd if he has 1000+ and 8tds, a 1st if he leads the conference……the Vikings gave the Pats a first rounder for Moss mid season last year and then they released him cause he’s a pain in the butt, why wouldn’t a team give us a 1st rounder if Lee is putting up career numbers at the beginning of the season

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Vikes have the Pats a 3rd I believe.

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by bflo on Aug 9, 2011 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

vikes gave up a third for moss. certainly not a first otherwise christian ponder would not be on the team

by boomsauce on Aug 9, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say trade Lee and 3rd to Bmore for Jared Gaither.

I love Lee, but we have soo much talent at WR and unfortunely he is getting old hasn’t performed that well lately. And we REALLY need a Tackle.

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by NCblofan on Aug 9, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Or we could just sign Jared Gaither being he’s a FA :)

by NordicBillsfan on Aug 9, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

gaither is a free agent

the raiders didn’t sign him because he has a bad back, thing is we could still have Jason Peters but instead we have Eric Wood, If we can’t get what we need for Lee we can’t do it

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will take Eric Wood over Jason Peters, if for no other reason than Peters isn’t worth half of what he is getting paid. The fact that the Bills lack a stud tackle stinks, but Peters gives up a ton of sacks every year and wanted loads of money (got it from Philly). I would compare it to Nate Clements, it would have been nice to keep him, but he wasn’t worth the money he got. Peters was leaving Buffalo, I’m just glad they got Wood for him (and didn’t blow the pick like they did earlier that day).

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by hoosier3 on Aug 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gaither

Doesnt he have back problems though? He will add another risk player to a team full of risk players. No thanks.

by DspYank on Aug 10, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question....what happened to this

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/03/25/evans-role-will-change-for-bills

Some how this doesn’t feel like the what the straight shooting CHIX led us to believe.

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by Joe P. on Aug 9, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been thinking about that. The only way I could make sense of it is if Gailey has tried this camp to get Evans more involved in other ways and after some camp Gailey doesn’t believe Evans is up to it. But still, I can’t believe they would cut him outright.

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by thefourwinds on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

In retrospect it seems pretty frank.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

just to be clear....

You think trade Evans is getting him more involved in our offense?

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by Joe P. on Aug 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s critiquing Evans’ game, he talks about what he has to do to help Evans, but make no mistake he’s telling EVANS what to do too. It’s a responsible way of saying we have to work together because Evans isn’t contributing the way we think he can. The author of that article got the message.

Evans’ place in the receiving corps may depend on his ability to adjust to his coach’s request.

I don’t think its so subtle. In retrospect, it carried more signficance than we probably gave it at the time. It really doesn’t strike me as inconsistent with what we are hearing now.

by greysquirrel on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

football coaches are like politicians

they lye to you for the greater good because us little people don’t know what’s best

by badnewsBills on Aug 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep telling myself

the Bills are saving as much money as they possibly can the next two seasons while developing cheap, young talent, and then when they’re forced to meet the salary cap basement, they go on a spending spree like the Eagles this year in time to compete…. But then again, I’m probably just setting myself up for disappointment.

by BFFL on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow!

someone interested in a Bill’s player, thats rare!

Baby steps are for babies. Step it up buffalo!

by buffalobacker on Aug 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Schopp is that you? :)

by DspYank on Aug 10, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Bills are putting it out there that he is available

I think the Bills are putting it out there that he is available, getting the phone ringing so they can get a starting RT in exchange for him. Lee is a good player they know the advantages to keeping him and they might just be gauging value. If the right team bits a player for player trade could happen. If it was a good, young starting RT, I would see it as a good move. He is one of the only real players (that doesn’t quite fit the team right now) that we could trade and get anything out of at all if you think about it. For draft picks not so much, Lee is a proven commodity, draft picks are bets or at best like investing in a shaky stock market.
The way Chan spoke after practice with Wang in there the other day you know there is going to be something done. Couple that with what he has said in the past about Lee finding other ways to be of use to the offense and the perceived glut of young talent we have at the position and lack thereof at others,these rumors make sense.
Cutting Lee out right is a dumb plan.

by zoomer02 on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see the point in trading him, well yeah I do see the point but I think that it would be a foolish trade. Why not wait until next year to see if he has a decent year to increase his value and/or our other receivers progress which would make him expendable. I understand that we have many wide receivers with talent whom our staff would like to get the ball to. However, I think that the injury bug will hit us again like every other year and we will need him. And I don’t think the return on the trade we could possibly make would be worth it. What’s the point of getting a mid to late round pick? Maybe find a guy that’s a steal? Not likely. So why not keep him and ride it out

by billsfan26 on Aug 10, 2011 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously?

if the bills don’t get anything in return what so ever for evans while being this far under the cap I will be extremely disappointed in our FO. it’s not like we need cap space right now or anything, or that his price tag is money we don’t have. he’s proven to open up the underneath game by his excellent outside speed and good hands. that would just be stupid to release evans. i can understand getting a tackle or a 4th and a 3rd out of him but come on don’t release the man after all he’s put up with in buffalo

by gspec on Aug 10, 2011 2:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree. However, I wouldnt even take a fourth. Hes worth much more to our team than what the market is going to give us in any scenario (except Oakland – and I wouldnt want to see Lee go there).

by DspYank on Aug 10, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they release him

I hope he ends up in Indianapolis.

by lord gloom on Aug 10, 2011 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

this is nonsense

he can still have 3 more good years in buffalo… that gives ample time for him to contribute from the middle…

we keep doing the same thing, lose talent that we have in the team… aargh!!!

then why do we keep drafting WRs and RBs in the first round?

by statcruncher on Aug 10, 2011 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Well he's only under contract for 2 more seasons as it stands.

He’s due a $1.5M roster bonus in both of the last 2 years of the deal. And $3.275M in base salary.

With that said, I don’t think the timing is right to trade him just yet. They should hold onto him for at least this season and see how it plays out. Then if they want to trade him next year when he has 1 year left on his deal it might be the better time to make a move, especially after they can confirm what Stevie Johnson did last year this season. I highly doubt Lee loses any value from this year to next. As long as he stays healthy (no major injury like an ACL)I think his value could only increase slightly, and most likely stays about the same as it is right now.

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Aug 10, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Evans isn't a Bill week 1

I will be very upset. Sure, i’ve been critical of his contribution of late, but you don’t remove veteran talent on a roster lacking it.

If a numbers game is the problem, just a guy who can’t get on the field. Cut a guy who can’t stay healthy, who can’t figure it all out.

David Nelson is a fun story, but there’s no way he draws coverage away from Stevie Johnson as well as Evans does.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Aug 10, 2011 7:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’d be sad to see Evans go – his play has declined, but he still is talented, and through all the struggles and changes at HC, QB, and OC, he’s been a class act.

by JustAskTheAxis on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Makes total sense...

Honestly, most Bills followers will use their emotions when responding/reacting to this news but when you sit back and think about it, it’s actually a good move either way.
He is now 30 yrs old and as many say, a one trick poney. The age doesnt concern me as much as the one trick poney has over his career. Don’t get me wrong, I am a Lee Evans fan but when you look at it, his only trick is to run deep. That doesn’t help the offense especially when he can be covered man on man.
If you look at the stats, Evans (37 rec) was no better than Nelson (31 rec), Donald Jones (Limited role 18 rec) and Parrish (8 games 33 rec). If Easley can come back healthy, to help the young group of WR and with the Brad Smith signing, I personally think it would actually benefit the team more by letting Lee Evans go. I would hope they could get a late round pick out of him but if that doesnt happen, I can see them releasing him out of respect to him and for the Bills future.
We all have to think logically about this type of thing. When do you put emotions aside and cut ties?

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?"
~Vince Lombardi~

by Hambone on Aug 10, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

You left out the fact that Evans missed the final 3 games of the season due an ankle injury.

His numbers didn’t fall off from what he did in 2009. He actually had a slightly better season last year than in 2009 minus the 3 less TD’s, but he also missed those 3 games at the end of the season. The only season he hasn’t averaged 15+ yards a catch was in 2009. He was back over 15+ last year at 15.6.

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Aug 10, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if you want to think logically.

Evans has 2 years left on his contract at a rather fair price. $3.275M in bases salaries and $1.5M in roster bonus money for each season. IMO It would make more sense to hold onto him one more year while they see how Stevie responds after his breakout season while playing in the final year of his contract. If this is the route they want to pursue than I just think it makes more sense to try to trade Evans next year before the draft than this year going into the season.

"‘Fight on my men,’ Sir Andrew said, ‘a little I’m hurt, but not yet slain.
I’ll just lie down and bleed a while then I’ll rise to fight again.’"

by mkost84 on Aug 10, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, hold on to him for this year at least. We have to know that Stevie can be consistent before we trade away an offensive weapon.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 10, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

he can be covered man on man.

But he can’t, most defenses roll a safety over to his side of the field.

We all have to think logically about this type of thing.

You haven’t presented anything logical, though. Yes, other receivers had close to as many receptions as he did, but what were the YPC? Which of those receivers you mentioned present a deep threat? Who will defenses pay attention to if Evans is gone? Stevie? Maybe, but does that mean his production drops? Which receivers are as good as Evans? I don’t think any of them are, personally.

Why would we get rid of an offensive weapon who’s still relatively cheap and is one of the very few members of our team that the league takes notice of? He’s been doing well in camp, it makes no sense to trade him now.

When do you put emotions aside and cut ties?

When it benefits the team. I have not seen an argument that getting rid of Evans (at least, for anything less than maybe a 3rd rounder) benefits the team. He provides veteran leadership. He may not be a stat machine, but his presence on the field definitely benefits the other guys. And I believe he and Fitzy will be a much better tandem this year. I’d like to see that relationship develop.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Aug 10, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

My My

I pull up BR to see this article first thing in the morning is disturbing. Lee Evans is a quality football player that the Bills need more of and I for one would be disappointed (that seems to be the consenus) if he is traded or especially if he is released… If he is released I hope he gets to play for a winner and a team with a quality QB!

Money can't buy you happiness. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.
- Spike Milligan

by Goose22 on Aug 10, 2011 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Evans

I think that this is a bad bad move by the Bills. If we are trying to move forward, why are there reports (and when there is smoke there is fire) that we are going to trade (most likely for a 5th or 6th round pick) or cut (how stupid would THAT be?) Lee Evans?

Steve Johnson is going to be double teamed and behind him, we have a TON of “if healthy-s”. This would make no sense and would leave a bigger pit in my stomach than when POZ was traded.

No Thanks

by DspYank on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

On top of that..

Who is our speed guy? And dont say Roscoe, hes not big enough for the outside receiving slots. We have tried this before and failed.

Next year we would be hearing from Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock: “Buffalo needs that speedy wide receiver to compliment Steve Johnson” (also o-tackles, he would also definitely say o-tackles) :)

by DspYank on Aug 10, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Desean Jackson does it in Philly.

by greysquirrel on Aug 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Next year we would be hearing from Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock: "Buffalo needs that speedy wide receiver to compliment Steve Johnson" (also o-tackles, he would also definitely say o-tackles) :)

Yea then they will have to draft a WR to replace Evans instead of a O-Lineman to improve the line.

.

Money can't buy you happiness. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.
- Spike Milligan

by Goose22 on Aug 10, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

you for forgot pass on a QB and draft a WR ......

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by Joe P. on Aug 10, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point, I’m focused in on improving the line but a top QB is a must…

Money can't buy you happiness. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.
- Spike Milligan

by Goose22 on Aug 10, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

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