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Some Week 2 Thoughts

That was a fun game wasn't it?  It's nice to have the heart pounding in an exciting game that has some meaning with the Bills coming out on top, now isn't it?  I hope this mini-run can continue because it sure is fun having a team winning games and playing pretty well.  Unfortunately, the dang Patriots have to be coming to town ready to slap us all back to reality. We'll see.

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- 34 first downs is incredible. I saw the stat after the game and thought that it was a pretty nice stat. Turns out, it's a franchise record. I think they needed every single one of those!

- Maybe our fortunes are finally turning. The Bills scored 35 points in the 2nd half of a home game, the most since the Comeback Game.  It was also the biggest halftime deficit overcome since that game. That's some good mojo right there, I must say.

- I hate to say it, but somebody needs to smack Da'Norris Searcy in the back of the head. He is extremely lucky he has a 33 inch vertical and long arms (33 1/2"). Anything less than that and Denarius Moore pulls down the Hail Mary and Searcy is the goat. Just knock it down, kid! There's no need to go for the pick there and potentially end up with the tie-goes-to-the-receiver outcome.  I think my heart stopped and I was about to void my bowels because of this play. If I had known the play was being reviewed, and it took 10 minutes, I would likely be dead. Phew, dodged a bullet.

- Speaking of Moore, that dude is a stud. Speed, great hands, leaping ability, solid route running, and he goes at gets the ball. How did he last until the 5th round?  The Raiders got a major steal.  He made Darrious Heyward-Bey look like Michael Bay in one game.

- What was up with all the Raider fans in the Ralph?  When they showed the field view of the Moore TD, you could see dozens of Raiduh fans in the background going nuts in the opposite endzone.  That's just not right, and it's going to be much worse when all the Patriots fans come barreling into town Sunday.  Hopefully, any Bills fan who sold their lower level tickets, did so to other Bills fans.

- Two plays deep in Raiders territory could have easily gone the other way and ended the game for the Bills. The first was the Scott Chandler touchdown where Tyvon Branch let an easy interception slide right through his hands and into Chandlers'. Touchdown and the lead for the Bills, while the Raiders could have protected the lead and tried to run the clock out over the last four minutes. This play was pretty lucky for the Bills.  The Donald Jones save wasn't.  On the poorly thrown fade to the endzone right at the end of the game, Jones made a fantastic play swatting the ball out of Chris Johnson's hands as he turned DB.  Great, heady play and it helped give the Bills new life. 

- Ryan Fitzpatrick played an incredibly accurate and savvy game.  The Raiders gave him the underneath short game and he took advantage routinely hitting David Nelson and Stevie Johnson between the numbers. There were a few intermediate shots to Johnson down the sideline which resulted in a catch and some penalties. Other than that, it was all underneath.  It's going to be tough to continue this type of production with that type of passing game. The Raider defense dictated the underneath stuff, but going forward Fitz will need to start hitting some passes down field.  Teams are going to start tightening up those gaps underneath and potentially bringing another player down into the box in run looks. In order to keep the short passing game and run game so open, the field needs to get bigger. Keeping the safeties back a bit will help with that.  I'd love to see Chandler down the seam or Brad Smith on a fly, to at the very least keep the defense honest.  Belichick is going to do whatever he can to shut down the over the middle passing game this week; time to beat somebody deep.

- Fred Jackson is just incredible. What a great player and a great story. He just keeps getting better and better in all aspects of his game, and he's so versatile. He lined up out wide numerous times and even had a few catches out of that look. He picked up some blitzers from time to time. He was a lead blocker, and a darn good one at that, for CJ Spiller on a big run. And he continues to pile up chunks of yards on the ground. The OL continues to do a great job opening holes for him, but Fred is doing a great job taking advantage of those. That 43 yard touchdown run was a thing of beauty and really gave the offense the shot of life they needed. I love watching this guy run and show the league how good he is. Too bad he didn't get more chances earlier in his career.

- Did CJ Spiller just become an NFL RB?  He was actually breaking some tackles and shooting upfield for some big gainers.  I thought this was, BY FAR, his best game as a pro and actually gives me a little confidence that he might actually be able to contribute in the run game going forward. He seems more decisive than he was last year and in the preseason, looking for the hole and just taking it. He won't continue to average almost 9 yards a carry for long, but he can certainly pick up 5 yards a pop.  It sure would be lovely to see him rip off a 70 yard touchdown run soon (Sunday, please).

- Speaking of the run game, I feel vindicated on my thoughts that the Raiders' front 7 was vastly overrated. They were awful last year against the run and even worse on Sunday. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that they were such a dominating, scary group.  They can be run on at will and I'm glad the Bills easily took advantage of that. I've never seen a unit get so much pub after one game to completely negate how awful they were before that. It was simply baffling. 

- Great job by the OL to dominate them and give our RB's some huge holes to run through.  It was also a great job of keeping Fitz clean and able to throw without pressure for most of the game.  One sack allowed in two weeks and the top rushing offense in the league speaks volumes to how well this group has played, despite playing some mediocre defenses. When you rush for 217 yards in a game, you are doing something right. I just hope they can keep this up because I'm not convinced this group went from such a weakness to such a strength all of a sudden, but I'll take it!  Demetrius Bell has done a fantastic job thus far. 

- The interior OL continues to push defenders around. Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly were barely a rumor Sunday and I saw some phenomenal seal blocks to get Jackson and Spiller the lane they needed to run through. Vince Wilfork and Albert Haynesworth, with Jerod Mayo behind them is going to be a challenge this week. I think they'll be up to it.

- Funny quote from Tommy Kelly after the game Sunday: "That team's not better than us," Kelly said. "We gave them that game. Simple as that." Ha! Maybe if you didn't get abused all game, the outcome would have been different.

- Stevie Johnson is a stud.  His move to get open on his touchdown catch is a coach's wet dream. That was just a slick, impossible to stop route and he ran it perfectly.  Johnson is so slippery and has fantastic footwork. He is like the WR version of Fred Jackson. I love watching him play and hope his groin doesn't give him much trouble this week. I smell a monster game this week, if the groin is healthy.

- David Nelson continues to excel in the slot, the position he really belongs in. I don't want to see him on the outside at all, I'd much rather see him use his size to carve out space underneath. His great hands really give Fitz a fantastic option over the middle.

- Donald Jones continues to play well even if the stats don't show it. He ran a great route on the 4th down conversion and made a tough catch.  The play to knock the ball away in the endzone doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but it was as important as any play. He is blocking really well in the running game and just doing his job well. The stats will improve.

- I was high on Ruvell Martin as I've seen him make some big plays in the NFL. He's got great size and adequate speed, but he can't keep dropping passes. Those opportunities are few and far between for him, so he has to take advantage. The one drop where he was wide open underneath with room to run was embarrassing.  I still think he makes a big play sometime soon.  He's going to have to, by default.  Another thing, how was Branch now flagged for a personal foul on Martin's drop late in the game?  Not only did he hit a defenseless receiver, he launched himself, head first, towards Martin's shoulder/head. I watched the replay a few times and couldn't believe nothing was called. The NFL bends over backwards to make these calls, yet nothing here on Sunday.

- I like Scott Chandler. Solid blocker and continues to make plays in the passing game. The concentration to hang onto that TD was great, even if it was lucky that the ball even got to him.  With the Patriots likely to focus on Johnson, I expect Chandler to get plenty of opportunities this week.

- Sucks for Roscoe. He got hurt on a non-contact play and that's never a good thing.  Hope he just planted funny and will be back soon enough. We could certainly use a little speed on offense.

- The Raiders will beat the Jets next week.

- I continue to be impressed by the run defense. They did a great job of shutting down Darren McFadden, despite a number of broken tackles.  That guy is an absolute stud (top 3 RB) and for the most part the Bills shut him down.  Other than a bigger run for Michael Bush and the reverse to Moore, the Bills front 7 dominated the run game.  Sign me up for that every week.  I do expect more teams to run draws, misdirections and reverses against us.  These types of plays still tend to hurt the D, especially when somebody over-pursues.

- I continue to unsurprised and disappointed with the pass defense.  It stinks, notably the pass rush.  Outside of the occasional pressure (even from Chris Kelsay!), there's very little push in the pocket. Kyle Williams and Marcel Dareus have done a great job in the run game, but have been neutralized pretty easily, thus far, in their pass rush.  We need them to collapse the pocket in the QB's face more often, giving the back 7 a better chance at success. 

- I've been shocked to see Kellen Heard out there so much. He hasn't played poorly, I just thought we wouldn't see him that much. I guess Spencer Johnson and Alex Carrington are really going to be kept on the outside for the majority of their snaps.

- Our edge rush have been non-existent to this point.  Shawne Merriman just hasn't been able to beat his opponent yet, which is a concern.  It looked like he was held a few times Sunday, but maybe he just was driven into the turf?  I don't know if he's hurting, but he's been ineffective, and that simply needs to improve. I hated the idea of him being the "key" or "final piece" to the pass rush puzzle, as Buddy Nix talked him up this offseason, because a team simply needs more than that in their pass rush. Even if Merriman was dominating right now, the team still needs more rushers. With him struggling, the team has no answer and no ability to get after the QB. It's painful to see at times, especially when Jason Campbell has days to throw. Tom Brady is going to dissect the crap out of this defense Sunday if Gailey, Edwards and Wannstadt don't come up with some unique looks to get pressure. It is an absolute must (the key to the game) to pressure Brady, especially right in his face, if the team is going to pull the upset. They don't have a chance if Brady has all day to throw.

- I still believe the pass rush is going to be the single biggest factor for why this team doesn't make a playoff push. If you can't get pressure on the QB, you have to be perfect in other areas. Thus far, Fitz and the running game have been awesome, but will that continue? When the defense needs to make a play, how will they do it without a pass rush? Might be time to start dialing up some different looks and unique blitzes.

- It's too bad Robert Eddins got hurt. He might have gotten a chance to rush the passer this year.  Danny Batten might be the only other option right now.  I know they keep moving him around, but it's time to give Arthur Moats a chance (assuming he'd be healthy enough) to get after the QB.  Imagine if he KO's Brady this Sunday :)

- I continue to be impressed by Nick Barnett. He's looked great so far, especially in the run game.  He's been all over the field and been a sure tackler in space. He definitely doesn't look as quick as he once did, but his ability to move around is still above average. 14 tackles and the game shifting forced fumble against Oakland were huge.  He has looked a step behind in coverage on RB's thus far, but he's had to shadow Jamaal Charles, Dexter McCluster and Darren McFadden, so its hard to fault him.  There haven't been any big plays out of those guys once they've caught the ball, thanks to Barnett's tackling.  Keep it up hoss.

- Merriman, Kelsay, Carrington, Batten and whoever else has lined up on the outside have done a pretty solid job of funneling.  I don't recall too many running plays that have gotten outside of them, besides the occasional draw or reverse. Solid work thus far in the run game out of them.

- Did anybody play a worse game than Leo McKelvin the other day? He was just atrocious. If you're going to give a WR a ten yard cushion, at least don't get torched deep multiple times.  Leo just doesn't seem to get it, and it doesn't look like he ever will. The physical talent is there, but he's just not very good at playing CB right now.  He actually started the game pretty well, almost coming up with a pick six on a nice break and playing some tighter coverage. As the game wore on, his cushion got larger and he got beat often. I'd much rather line him up on the line of scrimmage and give him a chance to play bump and run. Enough with this cushion. If he's going to get beat deep, let it happen by trying to play tight coverage.  At least then, the underneath stuff might be tougher to complete against him. Instead, he's allowing everything right now.  Thankfully, it wasn't Leo that had to go up for the Hail Mary, because Moore would have won that battle, again. 

- Did Reggie Corner get much playing time? He must have played reasonably well (or not at all) since I don't remember seeing him get beat at all.  Kudos to him. You've got to start somewhere.

- Jairus Byrd is a stud in the run game. I love watching him come up and fill, as he's gotten so much better at it.  He continues to disappoint in the passing game, though. He's just so slow back there, reacting and recovering. I want to see QB's throwing some wounded ducks over the middle again, because he'll be all over those.  He made some big open field tackles against Oakland, showing how much he has improving his tackling since his rookie year.

- What is George Wilson's vertical? 8, 10 inches tops? He's been solid, though, thus far. Even though Donte Whitner got an absolute gift INT from Jon Kitna this week, it's hard to imagine anybody missing him right now.

- I think I like seeing CJ Spiller returning punts again.  If he can get a crease, his speed will finally get a chance to kick in. If the Bills can force the Pats to punt at all this week (not confident in that), Spiller will have a great chance to make the big play we've been dying to see him make. Hope he has another big week 3 against the Pats for a second straight year.

- I don't know if anybody has noticed, but Brian Moorman has had a great start to the year. He's avoided the shanks that became so prevalent the last few season and is booming the ball again.  He's outkicked the coverage a few times, but that's better than the 25 yarder off the side of his foot every other time he trots out there. I hope this consistency continues as the weather starts to turn.

 

Whoa, this got long.  Anywho, to wrap it up, this team has played some great football the first two weeks. They are starting to get some recognition and praise for their play.  I love to see that, but it means nothing if they can't sustain the success. Sunday will be the biggest game in years, maybe since the end of the 2004 season, and the Ralph should (better) be rocking. The team needs to start fast and put some points on the board. If they fall behind Brady and the Pats, I'm not sure they can make another comeback. It's going to be important to sustain drives, churn out yards on the ground and keep the ball out of Brady's hands. They need to finish drives with TD's, just like against Oakland, and win the turnover battle. The offense simply cannot turn the ball over and expect to win, and the defense needs to find a way to force a turnover or two. Avoiding the mental errors, playing effective and efficient football and getting some stops will be the best way to pull the shocking upset. I can't wait for Sunday and hopes the team really comes to play and stick it to the Patriots.

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Nice post.

I’ve had to strongly disagree on Searcy’s pick to the end the game. He had no opportuntity to bat the ball away.

I thought, in a game filled with great plays, that Searcy’s play was one of tremendous effort and desire. That was true “jump ball” and if Searcy had tried to swat the ball away, well one of the Raiders WRs likely would have caught the ball before that ever happened.

This one time, the ball HAD to be caught and Searcy had jumped, out-desired everyone else in the endzone scrum.

GREAT play in my opinion, just a whole lot of determination to make that play.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Sep 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’ve had to strongly disagree on Searcy’s pick to the end the game. He had no opportunity to bat the ball away.

This was the one thing I disagreed with K on and agree with you here. There were so many people there, if he had tried to bat it and missed, it could have easily gone up for grabs. There was just too much traffic. I think he made the right play.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 20, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

I don’t know. Maybe I’ve rewatched it so many times in slow-mo, but he went up with the intent to catch it. I think he could have knocked it down, but what’s done is done. They won, thankfully, and we don’t have to worry about what he didn’t do…I’m done!

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll tell you, I’m glad I wasn’t watching the game. If I had been watching and knew that play was being reviewed…

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by thefourwinds on Sep 20, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ref came out and announced

that right in front of my seats, the stadium was almost completely empty. Nobody would have known if it was a reversal. There was one bills players out there, i think david nelson. It was strange on how long the review took. They must of had to reboot the review system.

by wab2 on Sep 21, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was reported later on that the review was a mistake. The on-field crew had gotten a buzz from the replay booth by mistake. The replay booth had already reviewed it an confirmed the ruling on the field. It’s a darn good thing it wasn’t overturned!

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by thefourwinds on Sep 21, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree as well. I remember that one play last year where the Rams(?) ended up winning because the DB tried to bat it down, but hit it right into the WR’s hands. Too many willing hands around to let the ball go wild.

by TimEllis on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was the Jaguars. Mike Thomas caught it. I only remember because it helped me win a fantasy matchup. So epic.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also wanted to say, great posts Kurupt, I look forward to your “thoughts post” each week.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

this

I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter

by killascript on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 21, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great read. I can’t imagine how devastating it would have been for the hail mary at the end of the game to have been a Raider touchdown. It might have been worse than the Music City Miracle.

by jhloje on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

to be perfectly clear

merriman was hauled down on the final play of the game, otherwise
there is no hail mary.

refs have to make that call, esp. when it is a 100 percent haul down
tackle.

there is no excuse for that no call, none.

merriman deserves credit for that play, he did everything he could to
arrive at campbell, and was tackled like a running back.

by simonpure on Sep 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

totally agree

i was screaming at the tv begging for the holding call. The back judge was right there and stood stone still.

prediction for 2011 season is 5 and 11

by jpheff on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying it's right, but that call is never made on the final play.

I don’t like the difference in calls based on situations but it’s similar to basketball when the refs “let them play”.

"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop

by lonestar_ak on Sep 20, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is not true

i have seen those calls made.

look, the integrity of the game depends on calling it
fair and square.

do you think the bills would have been allowed to tackle the raiders
defense on their final drive????

what is the difference???

by simonpure on Sep 20, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're telling me you didn't see any "illegal contact" on that jump ball?

I cannot recall the last holding call I’ve seen on hail-mary and there have been some pretty blatant holds too.

For whatever reason, refs generally let more go in those situations. Mike Carey said in an interview that on a regular game/regular play he would have blow the whistle on Eli Mannings miracle escape and throw during Super Bowl XLII. A crew chosen to ref the Super Bowl admits that it puts their whistles away on some plays, you can bet other crew do the same thing.

As I said, I’m not saying that it’s right, just that it is what it is.

"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop

by lonestar_ak on Sep 20, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He last pass interference I’ve seen on a Hail Mary was Henry Jones back in the late 90s….Bills lost of course. I can’t remember who they were playing (in fact, I’m now doubting it was Henry Jones).

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by bluecollarbuffalo on Sep 21, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patriots

That game was at New England in 1998. Henry Jones was called for PI on a Hail Mary play, then the Patriots scored on the final play with a touchdown pass to Ben Coates. If I remember correctly, the Bills went straight to the locker room and didn’t even line up for the extra point attempt.

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by Towski82 on Sep 22, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct. The officals claimed they went and told the Bills to come back out, but Wade Phillips got as mad as I’ve seen and said we’re in the playoff hunt and points allowed are a tiebreaker. If we’d been told, we would have come out.
The Pats actually didn’t kick, the holder handed off to the kicker who walked into the endzone for a 2 pt conversion.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Sep 22, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

merriman tackle

you could see the refs eyes from the sideline he looked like he almost called holding. It was a tough call though. It looked like merriman was slipping and the oline just pushed him to the ground. I have not seen the replay on tv yet, but have the game set up to dvr tonight.

by wab2 on Sep 21, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

as for raiders fans in the stadium

are you calling for the banning of online sales?

anyone can get tickets at any price.

and then there are people selling end zone tickets
by the bushel full in front of the sheriffs for 80 bucks
a pop.

if the bills fans are motivated (see miami lol) they
can fill foreign arenas just as well.

to be honest, i think the atmosphere is better with
some out of towners in the house…..

and by the way, we had the privilege of meeting 4
mexican sports journalists who flew in from mexico
city to see their favorite american football team: the
buffalo bills….

by simonpure on Sep 20, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

really?

what’s the backstory there on the Mexican journalists? what made them choose the Bills?

Is it too much for me to ask that our potential QB of the future is athletic, accurate, and smart? Or at least two of those?

by k8 on Sep 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's kind of odd

~K
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by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you had a choice between the bills and cowboys who would you pick think the answer is oblivious

. Nobody and I mean Nobody circles the Wagon Blasters like our Buffalo Bills. The Wagon is coming to collect your soul.-abayarde

by Gpluehri on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No not calling for a ban or anything

It’s just disappointing to see, although when Nelson scored and ran towards the crowd, there were 4 or so Raiders goons in the first row looking sad. He jumped into the crowd right next to them.

I just don’t want to see and hear hundreds of Pats fans on Sunday, although I know it’s going to happen.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

iT NO MattER...

the WHAGON BLASTER WILL TAKE THEIR SOULS

FOR DOES ! WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAGON BLASTER . THIS IS OUR LAND IT IS ALL THAT MAKE US BEALIVEEE THAT WE ARE ALL ONE SOUL AND EQUAL IN BATTLE .- abayarde

by Byrdeputt on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

they grew up with the super bowl bills

they were always on tv back in the day.

nfl football after soccer is the #2 sport in mexico.

the games are on every sunday.

bills received a ton of coverage when they were
coming of age.

they were in their late 20s early 30s i guess.

the gorgeous female sports reporter is a soccer
talking head, the male i spoke with does soccer
analysis for fox sports/spanish channel.

he said she is a superestrella superstar in
mexican television.

i did not get much from the other two. two men
two women…..

the superstar female reporter had a gorgeous
red buffalo hat with the huge white standing buffalo
…she wondered if she got the right hat, i told her i
love the standing buffalo, but many hats have a
smaller buffalo standing, but on her, any hat would
have looked great…..

by simonpure on Sep 20, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, I gotta ask, is there a reason why your margins are as they are? Not annoyed or anything, but I’ve asked the question “why is it like that” in my head enough that I need to ask.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Sep 21, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

" I continue to unsurprised and disappointed with the pass defense."

This is why I fear we are still no match for the Patriots. We can do everything else right. We can keep the ball out of Brady’s hands as much as possible by running the ball with FJ, we can finish drives with points instead of punts, we can play disciplined and smart by avoiding drive killing penalties. If we don’t get pressure on Brady up the middle (outside blitzes won’t do any good) and cover the recievers better than we have been we will be stuck in a shootout. Which we will lose.

by The Adam Bomb on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

This has me thinking; we’ve played 2 rush-oriented teams. I would think we had been playing to stop the rush, not the pass. I have to think George Edwards has some looks up his sleeve that he doesn’t want Brady/Belichick seeing on film. Is there a stat on how many pass blitzes the Bills have run in comparison to the rest of the league?

by KPaup on Sep 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thin line between love and hate
Two plays deep in Raiders territory could have easily gone the other way and ended the game for the Bills.
Ryan Fitzpatrick played an incredibly accurate and savvy game.

If the Raiders make either interception, the story line would be how Fitz makes mistakes in critical situations.

by Rick A on Sep 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

That was my first thought too. However, I am choosing to think of it as having trust in his receivers. Also, it barely does anything to diminish from his outstanding day.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, yes

But those two plays resulted in a TD and incompletion. It worked out for the best. Maybe that would have been the story line had one of those passes been picked off. Let’s save that for another week :)

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE: Ruvell Martin

I still think he makes a big play sometime soon. He’s going to have to, by default.

I think if he stinks it up for another game, then give Aiken or Roosevelt a shot. They can’t be any worse and they both could be a lot better in different ways.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 20, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Aiken is my vote. He has nice size and showed pretty good hands in pre-season

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by lonestar_ak on Sep 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think they need to move Moats outside and let him rush. I think Batten belongs on the other side. I don’t think Merriman is 100% and I don’t think he will be back “in condition” until 5 or 6 games in (if he stays healthy). Merriman was seldom not double teamed (and held quite a bit), someone else needs to step up. I prefer my OLB’s backers with “edge speed” , this pulls the tackles out and allow for the interior guys to find lanes (see course: Defense 101).

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruvell Martin

Had quite a few drops in preseason. I say they pull the plug now and go with Aiken.

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Aiken

or Roosevelt. I prefer Roosevelt as he was quite involved with the player workouts during the lockout and, in my opinion, is a part of this team. Bring back Namaan.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Sep 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Aiken...

Aiken has a little more speed and good hands. If I were just filling the slot I would go with Roosevelt, but the health of Stevie may affect that decision.

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just brought up Roosevelt.

Parrish is on IR. :( I had really high hopes for him this year…

by KPaup on Sep 20, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Kurupt

I saw the Chris Kelsay inference, lol. Nice article.

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

WIlson

Although I like George Wilson, he was late reacting on the post pattern by Moore. McKelvin should have had deep help but Wilson got caught staring into the backfield on that one. McKelvin had a rough game, no doubt!

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

With that said.....

Searcy looks like a real player and wouldn’t be surprised to see him starting later in the year.

by Coach Bob on Sep 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

some?

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-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Dozens are still some, right?

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Donald Jones

His will be another great story, i think, along with Fred’s and Stevie’s. After seeing him defend that would-be int, in the context of McKelvin’s autrocious game, the thought occurred to me: could Jones have the speed to play corner, because he if so he might be a dominant one. Just a fantasy, and we’re short on receivers now, so maybe he can just coach McKelvin on breaking up passes. #:)

"This is a tough gayem for tough peepole." -- Chan Gailey

by Backup to Farve's Backup on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Donald Jones play at the end of the game

If that was Lee Evans back there instead of Jones, game over Raiders win. At least the Lee Evans of the last couple of years.

Defense -

I think part of the problem with the pass protection was the Bills were selling out on the run, almost all day long. I noticed at least a couple of screens got great headway because the front 3 all shot the gaps instead of hanging back. Sure McKelvin could have played just a little better, but Moore was pretty ridiculous yesterday. George Wilson was also shaky in pass protection. Again that might also be a factor of going all out to limit the running game.

I noticed a trend, at least with Carolina, and with Oakland in this game – if they just ran the ball for no gain a bunch of times instead of throwing incomplete, they could have ran out the clock and won football games. Instead Campbell and Cam Newton look good, but to the teams detriment.

Especially the Arizona / Carolina game – that was the Panthers to lose and they lost it by calling pass after pass after pass. They have good running backs – let them loose. I applaud Gailey for the balance shown over the past 2 weeks. IT’s driven me mad all the insane passing over the past 10 years in Buffalo. Heck, Gailey called a run when down 3 scores – sure it was early in the 3rd, but how many times did the Bills panic when down 7 points in the 1st under Jauron?

Another season (maybe), another year getting on the roller coaster. Hope the ride lasts more than 16 games :)

by syrbillsfan on Sep 20, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. I always had an issue with Lee on that issue. If he couldn’t catch it he very rarely played defense to prevent the INT.

by Berg79 on Sep 20, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post K. Some thoughts on McKelvin too

I thought he had pretty good position on a lot of the catches he gave up, Moore was just more aggresive going after the ball. As you pointed out, I think Moore is going to be a star for the Rai-Duh’s.

Unfortunately, I don’t see him turning the corner, I think he’s lost his confidence. His reaction after one of Moore’s catches (in the 1st half I belive) where he had a chance for a pick was pretty alarming to me. The way he pounded the ground looked like complete exasperation and frustration, I really fealt for him there.

If there was some way to improve his ball skills I don’t think he’d be targetted as much, but that’s not an easy fix. It’s frustrating to see him in good enough position, but just failing to make the play.

Keep up the good work, love reading these after each game.

"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop

by lonestar_ak on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s because he has always relied on his athleticism. I read a lot into Gailey’s comment this preseason that he could be great if he wants to be and if he puts in the work.

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by bluecollarbuffalo on Sep 21, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome read.

One thing I have to say though is that while some of the plays mentioned seems “lucky”, the same can be said for most of the teams that beat us last year. Take Johnson’s infamous dropped TD pass against the Steelers. You’d have to call that lucky too, right? And they only ended up going to the Super Bowl last year. Not that I’m saying we’re Super Bowl contenders yet, but just that I think the NFL is 90% ability and 10% luck.

by LaFemmeNiBuffalo on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely. Look at the Ravens’ OT win against the Bills. Luck that the refs didn’t blow the whistle on the Nelson fumble. Look at the OT loss to KC last year.

The truth of it is, all that matters is Ws. That’s why “moral” victories are so hollow.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to read some positive things from you, never seen it before. good points all around.

Not gonna say much more about MCkelvin after the next few days b/c it seems like a chicken or egg argument to me. But here goes, you say he was terrible while noteing that we had no pass rush, that dosen’t jive for me, with no pass rush the secondary should’ve given up more yards and big plays in the pass game, I can’t blame our DBs for that reason. Campbell was not threatened at all,totally comfortable in the pocket with all dat to throw, how in the world are they supposed to do better under the circumstances. I’ve said it before,Leodis is bach there chaseing bullets that know where they are going, and to that a QB that is all but wearing a red no touch practice jersey and what do you get. You get CBs trying to cover bullets that have a completely comfortable QB throwing them the ball. I may be wrong but that is how I see it.

We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen

by cencalclassics on Sep 20, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Leo

I obviously agree that a lack of pass rush kills our secondary and pass defense. They have to play more conservative as a result, and have a ton of pressure on them. But at the same time, McKelvin just routinely gets beat. He wasn’t allowing receptions because Campbell had all day to throw, he was allowing them because he couldn’t cover anyone or win the jump balls. On Moore’s long catch down the sideline right after the two minute warning in the first half, McKelvin just got smoked. He didn’t even get his hands on Moore until he was tackling him out of bounds. No chuck, no jam, nothing. Just let him run right by him.

On the Moore TD, he was in terrible position. He was BEHIND the receiver when they went up for the ball, even though he was right there. He allowed Moore to shield him off. That’s just poor coverage.

That’s why I suggested the bump and run from him at the line. Maybe it’ll give him a better chance to disrupt the WR’s….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that Wilson’s responsibility on the Moore TD to have the inside positioning and Leo to have the outside? I could be totally wrong about who had what assignment. Obviously, I agree that Moore was Leo’s man, but it just looked like Wilson was supposed to have the inside and Leo have the outside. Moore just made a heck of a catch.

I’ll wait until you say something sig worthy

by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Sep 20, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct sir

We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen

by cencalclassics on Sep 20, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

But Leo just let Moore take him out of the play. He played that ball really poorly.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 21, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You make valid points sir, and I agree to an extent. Leo isn’t doing well challenging for the ball, and probably would have had a pick or two if he had done a better job of it. At the same time, if we get pressure on cambell on any of the throws in question, then we aren’t talking about this right now. If George Wilson is over the top, where he should’ve been on the TD throw, then we aren’t talking about this right now.

We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen

by cencalclassics on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Leo seems to be waiting for the INTs to come to him instead of going to get the INTs. I think its a problem he’s had his whole career.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Sep 21, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad Robert Eddins got hurt. He might have gotten a chance to rush the passer this year.

It’s even worse that Eddins is no longer a Bill. Sad day for the Bills’ pass rush hopes.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

So weak....

now I wish they would have kept coleman

I’ll wait until you say something sig worthy

by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

give it a couple days...

I think he’s headed to the PS which he couldn’t do on IR…

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Sep 21, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he can sign with the Bills

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 21, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

K is right; Eddins is prevented by rule from signing with the Bills for the rest of this season.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 21, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think my heart stopped and I was about to void my bowels because of this play.

Perfectly said

by krytime on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Edwards needs to get on the D this week and have them ready for a pass happy attack

Our DBs need to get their heads striaght, Jason Campbell shouldn’t have been able to shred us.

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by WABillsfan on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

fitzy needs to understand a corner route better

he had no loft on that pass and i think that is the third corner route i have seen him through this year that was flat. If you dont have loft the chance of a completion are much less. The ball is supposed to be trhown high and early so the receiver can get position and jumpbefore the corner knows it is coming. Sending it flat makes that impossible.

by wab2 on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

um....... (just to clarify on this because I feel this needs to be addressed).
- Speaking of the run game, I feel vindicated on my thoughts that the Raiders’ front 7 was vastly overrated. They were awful last year against the run and even worse on Sunday. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea that they were such a dominating, scary group. They can be run on at will and I’m glad the Bills easily took advantage of that. I’ve never seen a unit get so much pub after one game to completely negate how awful they were before that. It was simply baffling.

at halftime it was 20-3. The front seven and the raiders defense overall took a poop in the second half, and looked atrocious. Let me be the first to say that the second half raiders defense is not the REAL raiders defense. They don’t give up that many points every sunday in the second half, and its kind of weird that some would talk about it that that would happen with every team the raiders face.

Whether the run defense was solved or not, is still up in the air. Reason I still say this after last sunday, is because the raiders did a fairly good job against Fred in the first half, where he had one big run, and that was pretty much it. That was always the Raider’s montage. Stop the run, stop the run, RB gets a big gain, stop the run, stop the run, big gain. That’s how our run defense is. In the second half however, Fred was getting big runs left and right, which as very uncharacteristic on the Raider’s part.

You all capitalized on the Raider’s defense making mistakes, and that’s what a very good offense does, but I can’t help but feel that the Raiders beating themselves in the second half was a good factor on the outcome of the game.

But please, we didn’t overrate the Raiders defense. They are very very good still. You guys beat a very very good defense, but I can’t help but feel that the Raiders beat themselves as well. I’m sure you guys felt the same way quite a few times last year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys got a great win on Sunday, and hopefully this will humble the raiders team, and make them better.

Good luck against the Pats, and hopefully you guys will show the media that the Bills should not be taken lightly. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 21, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And thank you

I think it was a very good win. The Raiders are a very solid team and only getting better. Really hoping and expecting a win over the Jets this week. Good luck

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 21, 2011 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nick Mangold is down.

Our Front 4 hopefully will make sure Sanchize eats plenty of dirt. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 21, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kill the Jets! Goooooooooo Raiders.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 21, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The media hype machine doesn’t think so, but I actually think the Raiders match up well against them.
Very well.
You should win the game because Shatchez is no Fitz.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 21, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you guys just pounded the ball over and over, even for no gain

W for the Raiders.

Another season (maybe), another year getting on the roller coaster. Hope the ride lasts more than 16 games :)

by syrbillsfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

We scored points, so offense wasnt the issue that game. :( ah well...

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 23, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

didnt finish post....

So I’m hoping that issue will be fixed, because we cannot let the Jets into the game (because then their luck will kick in, and they’ll pull a win out of their asses…lol).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 23, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was specifically talking about the Riaders' front

Not the D as a whole, not the pass D and not in terms of points allowed. All week, the media was talking about how tough the Raiders front 7 was and how much trouble they would cause the Bills. NFL Network, ESPN, various articles throughout the week, etc all talked about the tough Raiders DL.

The Bills OL dominated them. No matter how you spin it, they laid 217 rushing yards on them, which might be even more impressive because the Bills were trying to come back. If the Raiders consistently give up big runs, doesn’t that show how poor of a run D they have? The numbers speak for themselves over the past year or so. They are a good pass rushing group, but are one of the worst run defenses in the NFL. I don’t see how that can be argued based on everything they’ve shown since the start of last year…

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 21, 2011 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Bills OL dominated them. No matter how you spin it, they laid 217 rushing yards on them, which might be even more impressive because the Bills were trying to come back. If the Raiders consistently give up big runs, doesn’t that show how poor of a run D they have? The numbers speak for themselves over the past year or so. They are a good pass rushing group, but are one of the worst run defenses in the NFL. I don’t see how that can be argued based on everything they’ve shown since the start of last year…

They don’t consistently give up as much big runs as YOU Guys did last Sunday. That was A LOT compared to the amount of Big Runs we usually give up. If you want to argue the rank of their defense, Last year they were #11 in terms of yards last year. That’s pretty damn good.

And The Bill’s OL did not dominate them. Fitz did. We got close to Fitz on several occasions, but he was as calm as a rock (if that makes any sense), and he has a great release. Those two alone, make it very difficult for any front 4 to get on the QBs nerves, and sack him. I did not expect Fitz to be so calm as he was last Sunday.

And many of those runs last Sunday that were big was a result of very poor tackling technique. Many times we had Fred in the backfield, but our guys take a bad angle. Yeah Fred sometimes made the guy look like a fool, but I saw guys who had their hands on him, only to have Fred slip from their grasp at around the 1-2 yard mark, and let loose for 5+ yards.

our front 4 is top 3 in the league. It’s quite valuable to have a QB who is so freakin calm, and not rattled by pressure (because that would eventually lead to mistakes).

You undervalue the Raiders front seven based solely on last game. You need to look at the overall picture. yeah, our LBs outside of McClain (who looked lot in coverage last Sunday which was odd. He went away from his coverage area against the Stevie Johnson TD, which… was in his coverage area……) are decent, but our front 4 usually makes up for them.

Don’t undervalue them though. If we met again, I can mostly say that we still wouldn’t have much success at sacking Fitz because of those two things.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 21, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack...... its not your defense at all.

“Many times we had Fred in the backfield, but our guys take a bad angle. Yeah Fred sometimes made the guy look like a fool, but I saw guys who had their hands on him, only to have Fred slip from their grasp at around the 1-2 yard mark, and let loose for 5+ yards”

That’s just what Freddie does.
It took the Bills staff 3 years to figure out how awesome he is.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 21, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SMH...

thanks for the sig

"Many times we had Fred in the backfield, but our guys take a bad angle. Yeah Fred sometimes made the guy look like a fool, but I saw guys who had their hands on him, only to have Fred slip from their grasp at around the 1-2 yard mark, and let loose for 5+ yards"
That’s just what Freddie does.
It took the Bills staff 3 years to figure out how awesome he is.

- SERGEANT MAJOR THOR

by Byrdeputt on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Freddy is a very good RB.

But we’ve stopped guys like Jamaal Charles no problem. Like I said, we let up big gains every now and then, but last sunday was WAY over the amount we usually give up. I know you all like Freddy a lot, and I think he is very good too (hell, because I am also a pats fan, I watched him play at least twice a year). But having that many huge runs was uncharacteristic of the Raiders defense.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to be argumentative

But when have the Raiders stopped Jamaal Charles without a problem???

In 3 career starts he has 42 carries for 243 yards and 2 TD’s. He’s averaged 5.8 yars per carry. The only thing stopping him was the lack of touches….

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 22, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

like I said

we let off a couple big runs that skew that stats. Last sunday there was an abnormal amount of big runs. Maybe Fred Jackson is better than Jamaal Charles, or maybe the raiders run defense played sloppy. In either case, fred is a damn good RB but I feel like the Raiders run D pooped a little….

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 22, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Raiders D
If you want to argue the rank of their defense, Last year they were #11 in terms of yards last year. That’s pretty damn good.

I’m not arguing the rank of their defense, buoyed by a pass D last year that didn’t see nearly as many passes as other defenses, due to how bad the run defense was. I’m still talking about the rush defense only and that’s all I’ve been talking about. Bad last year, bad this year.


They don’t consistently give up as much big runs as YOU Guys did last Sunday. That was A LOT compared to the amount of Big Runs we usually give up…..And many of those runs last Sunday that were big was a result of very poor tackling technique. Many times we had Fred in the backfield, but our guys take a bad angle.

That’s exactly my point. Your guys give up a bunch of big runs, don’t usually tackle well and allow a lot of rushing yards.

And The Bill’s OL did not dominate them. Fitz did.

217 yards (and zero sacks) says otherwise.

our front 4 is top 3 in the league.

According to who or what? They are a very good pass rushing group, but since i’m not talking about that, we’ll look at the run defense. Your front 7 allows a ton of rushing yards and TD’s. If they are such an elite group, why can’t they stop the run?

You undervalue the Raiders front seven based solely on last game.

Not even close. The last time the Raiders didn’t finish in the bottom four in the league in rush yards allowed was 2006…when they allowed the 8th most. Your team has been just plain awful at stopping the run for a looooong time now, not just Sunday. I think you are overvaluing their presence in the run game greatly. I’m just going by what I’ve seen the past few years when I’ve watched Oakland and the actual statistics.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Sep 22, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to discount your win but merely defending my team.
That’s exactly my point. Your guys give up a bunch of big runs, don’t usually tackle well and allow a lot of rushing yards.

BUt not as much as big runs that we gave up last sunday. Last sunday was an abnormal amount. The Raiders also do display good tackling technique most of the team. The run defense overall last sunday displayed little to no tackling technique, which was also abnormal.

217 yards (and zero sacks) says otherwise.

Does nfl.com give you pressure stats? no? I don’t think so, because we got good push on your OL with Fitz being unaffected by it. As for rushing, like I said we gave up an abnormal amount of big rushes last SUnday.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 22, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to who or what? They are a very good pass rushing group, but since i’m not talking about that, we’ll look at the run defense. Your front 7 allows a ton of rushing yards and TD’s. If they are such an elite group, why can’t they stop the run?

Front 4 is top 5 against the Rush, but that doesn’t mean they don’t let up big runs a couple times (although this can greatly be attributes to the OLBs…..). LIKE I SAID, WE GAVE UP AN ABNORMAL AMOUNT OF HUGE RUNS LAST SUNDAY.

Not even close. The last time the Raiders didn’t finish in the bottom four in the league in rush yards allowed was 2006…when they allowed the 8th most. Your team has been just plain awful at stopping the run for a looooong time now, not just Sunday. I think you are overvaluing their presence in the run game greatly. I’m just going by what I’ve seen the past few years when I’ve watched Oakland and the actual statistics.

I’ll say it again, Last game we gave up much more big runs than we usually do. BIG RUNS SKEW THE STATS, so we let up a couple of big runs during a game, and stop the RB fairly well. But those big runs skew the stats. Want to know why? Well our front 4 is key at being a big contributor against the run, while our OLBs are decent. Once the RB gets past our DL, they get around 4+ yards. But that doesn’t really happen that often. Hell, according to football outsiders, Lamaar Houston is the best among DL against the run in terms of run stop rate: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/24417/lamarr-houston

The other 3 guys, Kelly, Seymour, and Shaugnessy, are up there, but not as high as top 10. Butas a unit, they are normally very good against the run. Just those couple times they let up the big run skew the stats.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

by Jack'sAxe on Sep 22, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

You mentioned just about everyone but Lindell. His kickoffs were inch perfect, coming down on the 1 yard line with a nice arc/hang time. Marv Levy spoke about pinning the opponent inside the 20 each kickoff when kickoffs used to be at the 35 and now Dehaven is back and the kickoffs are also they are doing it again. Consistently the Raiders had to start from the 15-20 and one time from their own 10. Special Teams is so much improved from last season.

by Billsdownunder on Sep 21, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I am most inspired by the optimism in this article

Seriously man… great read. Well written, and filled with observations on all of the promise this team has currently. Nice to hear a sort of “change of tune” in reference to so many players; i imagine this has something to do with their improved performance, and elimination of some of the question marks. The points you make are realistic, and solid observations that I spent MOST of my time nodding my head in agreement to. Best thing I ever read from you. Whether that counts for anything, or not, doesn’t really matter to me. Just felt it deserved comment.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Sep 22, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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