Bills At Bengals: Ask Cincy Jungle About The Bengals

31-14, actually. It was 21-7, then Donald Jones caught a TD pass to make it 28-14, and then Cincy got a FG right before the half.

I wouldn’t let it hurt too much, apparently that’s what these Bills do.

Gresham is quite good, but immensely under-utilized. He’s at his best down field, either on a vertical route or cutting out around the numbers, 10-15 yards downfield. Still struggling as a run blocker though.

Also, I’d really love for someone to name a team that can actually cover the TE well. It seems like every team in the NFL can’t cover the TE.

Im not the brightest vrayon in the box .. but what is “REC”?

/shakesfistatgoodell

I’m not sure I’d confuse th
e 49ers Broncos and Browns for scoring machines…..

To be honest, the Bengals defense hasn’t been challenged with those sets for the most part, save for your obvious third-and-long situations. Based on talent of the individual, our secondary is severely depleted the deeper you go into the roster. And our safeties give up big plays in the pass.

So if, say the Bills, go with that many wide, the Bengals may opt to rush the passer first. However, our front four have done a good job pressuring the quarterbacks on their own.

We blitz quite a lot but we don’t need a lot to get pressure. Sims, Dunlap, Atkins, and Johnson alone can usually generate quite a lot. If Maualuga, Howard, or Lawson join in, well

Right now they have pacman on the pup list so they are thin at corner. Crocker and nelson may be able to stick with some recievers and zimmer should put people in good spots.

Benson is the running back. There is no one else.

From 2009 through last week, Benson accounts for over 75% of the total carries during games he plays. This year it’s roughly over 80%.

Ideally they want to run the football with a focus on ball control. This isn’t a big play offense, even though Dalton did have 280 yards in the second half against the Broncos. And there is a lot of talent, but much of the skill players on offense are young and inexperienced, so the team is easing them in. Our top receiver and quarterback have three games experience each.

That being said the Bengals are passing the football more, using quick passes with your standard WC philosophies.

He was not lying when he said that, though it hasn’t gotten going the past couple of weeks due to the Bengals being down and needing to pass to catch up quickly and the other team having an incredible run defense against the Broncos and the 49ers respectively.

His talent is ridiculous.

Check out this touchdown. I still have no idea how he got his left foot in.

That being said, during the Bengals preseason game against the Jets, Green seemed to have Revis’ number, turning him around, often finding separation.

He’s the type of guy that could make a difference at any stop on the field at any point in the game.

Handing the wifey my credit card is what usually happens to me.

A.

Thats my solution for any wife issues.

Get Her a Bengals Cheerleader outfit … “say they are my second favorite Team cuz of you”, and "Boy you sure do look better then any of the Bengal Cheer leaders…. Never know maybe she wont notice when you then do choice b….. but keep an eye out for flying objects…And dont say "OHHH another DB pick fer da Bills…. Good luck least she aint a Dolphin Fan.

Tell her to cook you dinner and clean the bathroom. Worked for me and one my one-time Steelers girlfriend from way back when. But then, after I told her to make me dinner, I didn’t see her again. I’m not sure if the two are related, but the Bengals totally won the game.

First C: so she knows that you do care. Then D: make sure you do a good job on this one before you break into B: which you should be able to continue for at least two hours. Lastly hold in the A: posistion until she comes back to consciousness. Dont make eye contact with her for the rest of the game, and if she says she has a splitting head ache deny everything.

Oh, don’t get me wrong. I’m very anxious about this game so our defense will be tested. Our pass rush is active, our safeties blitz often and our run defense is, so far stout. Though we did give up 100 to Willis McGahee, the rush defense shut down Frank Gore and Peyton Hillis. We’re very strong up the middle with our DTs. Our linebackers have been somewhat disappointing, but our safeties are strong against the run — we could be getting Taylor Mays back by this Sunday, adding to our run defense.

Where our defense struggles, at least so far, is against the pass. If the football is in the air, we’re already at a disadvantage.

Last year was definitely a down year for us, Mike Zimmer is fantastic and I hope we keep him for life.

Strongest against the run, weakest covering the pass — though their pass rush is effective. Bengals haven’t faced the spread yet, so we’re not sure. Based on the talent we know in the secondary, team could focus on pass rush more than coverage.

He looked smart, sharp, and really like he was experienced. He played terrible last game but he seemed overwhelmed at his first good defense he’s faced this season, along with the lack of experience showing all around (and the inability to establish the run really didn’t help). He’ll probably bounce back but I don’t expect much from the Bengals’ offense at the moment. It’s still too young.

Sorry, i was only kidding, i see you just posted a few hours ago, look forward to the answers though.

Watch for Geno Atkins, DT up the middle. He’s quick and has the strength to bull rush a guard right into the quarterback. Also watch for Michael Johnson at RDE, who is very athletic, fast with a huge wing span (does great knocking passes out of the air). Also Jonathan Fanene, backup defensive linemen that plays all four spots on the line and then there’s Carlos Dunlap, last year’s rookie that posted 9.5 QB sacks. Frostee Rucker is good too, but plays sparingly and oft-injured.

All of them (YES EVEN GEATHERS) can do it, all of them can do it reasonably well, all of them will pressure you, and all of them can potentially harm you down the road. It’s not on the level of the Lions or Giants but it’s still damn good.

This question. To be fair, most of us don’t have a lot of faith in this franchise at all. Some of us are remaining hopeful that Mike Brown’s heir apparent, his daughter and her husband, will not try to be as stubborn as her father and will actually hire a GM to run all things football. From the sounds of it, that is actually her plan, and as long as she avoids Matt Millen or his like, we should be alright.

I actually believe that Mike Brown really, really wants to win. A commitment? Historically that’s not apparent so we’ll put that as a no. But I think one of the reasons for Mike Brown being the way he is, is his father. He runs the team with the same attitude as his father. There’s been no modernization, no advancements and this team is largely run the same way since the 80s when the Bengals went to two Super Bowls. In Brown’s mind, and I actually say this with some confidence, the Bengals did it twice running it that way before, why not now?

Since then everything has changed. Scouting, finances and the ability to work with the players of this generation. If Paul Brown ran this team today, it wouldn’t be much better because Paul was just as bull-headed and tied to his own principles as Mike Brown is today. This team needs new blood, if for anything, modernize into the 21st century.

Improved scouting, wiser spending, retaining your best players. You guys realize we don’t even have an indoor practice facility? We’re the northern most team without one.

I really think the only sliver of hope we have for the future is when mike brown is gone and katie might be a little better. We pretty much know she’s going to be cheap like her father, but feel that she atleast knows she’s clueless about building a team, unlike her father that though he was Paul brown, regardless of his horrible track record.

I’m throwing out 2001 and 2002, because they were prior to Marvin, who is really the defining point of that decade.

We weren’t really up or down though. We were always in the middle. 7-9, 8-8 season are what defines Marvin’s career, and a lot of that has been due to very middling performances. He’s had two good years mixed in with two bad years and then a bunch of mediocre years at best. He’s not the winningest coach but he’s still better than we’ll ever get in Cincinnati and, for his apparent lack of emotion and effort at times, he’s changing this organization. I’d definitely take him as my GM any day, he knows how to draft and run a team.

Know that this team is an actual Marvin team though. The high-powered offenses that marked 2004-2008 were not really Marvin’s specialty. These new, defense-based teams that feature a ball control offense are much more Marvin’s style and he’s still putting his team together. I think he’s just now getting the coaches he wants for it, and now all that’s left is getting the personnel.

For this year? Expect a strong defense and a mediocre offense. It’s still too young to really judge the Bengals. A lot of us are predicting a 5-11 record, and that’s probably within reason to expect. We won’t win all of our games, or really even most of our games, but we’ll be in a majority of them and can pretty much hang with anyone. Our defense is good enough to keep our offense in it. We just need to get an offense that can execute and be just effective enough to close out late, manage the game, and occasionally lead clutch, game-winning drives.

Let’s see. The team rose from 2003-2005 and then roller coastered right back to down in 2008. We could say that 2008 was an aberration due to Palmer’s injury and the insane decision to name Chris Perry as the team’s feature back. Some called it a sign of things to come. Both were right.

They should have won the division in 2006, but they simply choked, losing the final three games when they were at one point 8-5. If they won any of those three games, they’re in the playoffs that year; botched PAT lost it against Denver and an overtime loss against the Steelers ended the season (missed Graham field goal as time expired in regulation). Then 2007 came around and the team simply said to hell with the running game while using a defense that gave up tons of yards, didn’t really hold opposing offenses and wasn’t as opportunistic as they were in the previous seasons.

It was around that season that the Bengals decided to mold themselves into a more AFC North compliment team with a strong defense and running game. They did it in 2009 and won the division.

Then they collapsed again in 2010, using essentially the same team they had in 2009. The exceptions being they played a tougher schedule and, dare I say, have the bounces not fall their way. The games they won in 2009 they weren’t in 2010… very few games did the Bengals lose by more than a possession (Bills being one of them).

Thanks for all the info, Doc!

Severely underrated DLine, probably one of the better ones in football. Most people don’t consider Cincinnati a defensive team but that’s pretty much what they’ve been since 2009.

Also Reggie freaking Nelson, the guy is an absolute beast of a safety and no one seems to realize this.

Was watching the Bills game against Patriots and Raiders last night and man, he totally stood out. Dude seems to have a hellva motor.

We don’t have a QB capable of running the Wild Cat and if we do the no huddle, it’ll be because we’re down and need to catch up fast.

If you paid any attention to Cincinnati’s victory over the Browns week 1, one of our scoring plays was a 40-yard bomb or so to A.J. Green off a freak blown coverage that was forced by Cincinnati taking advantage of the defense not being lined up at all. Browns fans were pissed but it’s legal. They’re not a gimmick offense like Miami but they will pull tricks every now and then if they believe they can catch you off guard.

Though he hasn’t filed the paperwork to retire Palmer isn’t returning to play for the Bengals. There’s a chance he could return before week six to dump his $11 million-plus salary onto the team’s salary cap, forcing his way out but the Bengals actually anticipated this, leaving enough room so it wouldn’t push the team over the cap.

But as Vince McMahon’s intro-music goes: there’s no chance in hell.

RE: why they won’t trade him.

Mike Brown during a recent press conference in July said:

“He has retired. I wish him well. If he is going to walk away from his commitment, we’re not going to reward it.”

That’s it. Brown honestly believes that if he trades someone, especially a star player, it will line players out the door to leave. And maybe they would. Based on the things we hear, most players that leave the Bengals are surprised by how much more other teams offer their players (such as new towels).

And not that it’s anyone’s fault, but it kind of is a sore subject because none of us can believe that Brown will sit on Palmer, letting his trade value drop. The Redskins offered a first round and conditional third round pick in 2008 for Chad Johnson. We got two late round picks in a trade with NE a few months ago (although based on how Chad’s playing, that does seem like a steal for us).

But we lost value based on Brown’s principles sitting on the players while their value decreased. It drives us INSANE!

Nobody knows what goes in the mind of Mike Brown.

It makes no sense at all, other than the fact maybe he just doesn’t want to give Palmer the satisfaction of giving him his way. I mean how many teams would trade for him? Miami? 3 or 4 others? What is he waiting for? If he was to be traded, what would the asking price be do you think?

It’s one of this league’s many blatant hypocrisies and there’s really no justification for it.

Go Bills!

If you don’t care about what’s being said and you don’t care about the finer points of your enemy, why are you here? :v