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Bills vs. Bengals: More On Cincinnati's Skilled Defensive Line

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Yesterday, we spent a little bit of time discussing the strong challenge that the Buffalo Bills will have game planning for the talented and deep defensive line of the Cincinnati Bengals. For a little more perspective on the group, I sought out a little help from a highly knowledgeable Bengals fan.

First, a little perspective: this group is legitimately eight players deep, all are versatile players, and all have different skill sets and situational specialties.

"There isn’t a single overall player that dominates against the run while being a pass rushing specialist," said Josh Kirkendall of CincyJungle.com. "Guys like Geno Atkins, Carlos Dunlap, Michael Johnson, Jonathan Fanene and Frostee Rucker are strong pass rushers (four of the five already have a quarterback sack this year), while Pat Sims, Domata Peko and Robert Geathers are much stronger against the run."

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Kirkendall lists Atkins and Dunlap first, as well he should. Both were 2010 draft picks - Dunlap a second-round pick out of Florida, and Atkins a fourth-round pick out of Georgia. The two SEC products combined for a surprising 12.5 sacks last season, with 9.5 of those coming from Dunlap, the highly-talented end who fell to the second round because of character and motor questions. Atkins already has two more sacks this year, while Dunlap has been slowly working back from an injury.

Johnson and Sims are two players that gave the Bills problems in a Week 11 matchup last season. Sims - who as Kirkendall points out is better known for his run defense - recorded a half-sack and gave then-right guard Eric Wood all he could handle with the spin move. While Johnson did not record a sack, his length gave Demetrius Bell problems at left tackle; Johnson routinely handled Bell and affected throws and running lanes.

Peko is a stalwart, having been a run-down mainstay for the team for six years now. Fanene, coming off of IR last season, is vastly underrated; he put up six sacks in 2009, and currently leads the Bengals with two through three games.

"It’s a good combination because the rotation keeps these players fresh, as all of them receive a significant number of snaps," explained Kirkendall. "Of all the players on the defensive line last week, Rucker played the least and even then, he posted 24 snaps."

So yeah, as we said yesterday: this group will be a huge test not just for Buffalo's suddenly-revered offensive line, but for Chan Gailey, Ryan Fitzpatrick and every other role player that gets in on protection schemes, as well.

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Seriously, Brian

How do you make the time to put up all these posts in a day!?!?!

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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

IMO

for one he is a FANATIC such as the rest us … probably gets paid very well to do something he enjoys …

by khameleon59 on Sep 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i may be mistaken, but im pretty sure he doesn’t get paid.

by TimEllis on Sep 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gets paid. Very well? I doubt that.

by Leo Crow on Sep 30, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he get's paid

for the advertisements that are on these pages…like 10 cents a view or something along those lines

by Bestbillieve86 on Oct 1, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

with that being said

i’m sure it’s not much money and he is just doing it out of love for his bills like you n I! love the writing here

by Bestbillieve86 on Oct 1, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

im more worried about this game than the Pats game

They will play the same way they have all year. They will exploit their weakness in the secondary and sprrad the ball out.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 30, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not too worried. If we can beat one of the best teams in the NFL in the Patriots, we sure as hell can beat a below-average football team in the Bengals. I get they have a good defense, but we have one of the best offenses. I ALWAYS bet against a young, inexperienced, mistake-prone, rookie QB and the Bengals just happen to have one of them (for the record, I think he’ll be a good QB down the road) in Andy Dalton. Even if the Bengals manage to slow down our offense, I still don’t see how they’re going to match us offensively.

Even George Edwards should be able to figure out a good game plan against the Bengals offense: Stack the box, make sure you put pressure on Dalton to win the game and wait for him to make mistakes (confuse him with formations and blitz packages etc).
The most important thing of all is that he stops using this vanilla defense that he has been using the first couple of weeks – it’s been highly ineffective against the Raiders and Pats.

by BuffaloBeliever on Sep 30, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you are spot-in regarding Dalton. I remember Peyton Manning’s first game against the Bills. Peyton got to meet Bruce Smith in the worst ways imaginable on the gridiron.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Sep 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Even George Edwards should be able to figure out a good game plan..."

I dunno……. I sure hope so.

The Bengals do not suck. I actually think they are better than they were last year.

"There is not a loser in this room." Marv Levy.

by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 30, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Worried

We should never consider another opponent “below average”. The Bengal’s pass rush sounds formidable regardless. It could spell a long day for the “vaunted” Bill’s O/L (after a whole three games) if Bengals can get to Fitz. My hope is Chan will devise a clever response to Bengals pass rush, let the game begin. Go Bills!

Chan, a coach trying to win, as opposed to trying not to lose!. Nice!

by buffalobacker on Sep 30, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our OL ........

practices against a pretty decent DL – and I think is part of the reason they have improved so much.

I’m sure Cinci will win some individual battles – but the idea that they will dominate – just doesn’t fit.

by zipper on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Cincinnati has a strong defensive line

and is a good 1-2 team, as are my Broncos. If I was put on the spot on NFL Network, I would still say the Bills win this one but Cincinnati has some nice pieces in place, Andy Dalton is a franchise QB, he has great composure. I do remember the 1988 AFC Championship game, but I think the outcome will be different this time around

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by the new Bradfather on Sep 30, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If the guys on their d line specialize in certain things then does that not make it easier to.check into another play. Then take advatage of their d line rotation.

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by matthew62 on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The key to victory

Don’t take anyone too lightly…and just approach it like we are the underdogs…and play mistake free game…

by Dingus Day on Oct 1, 2011 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

hurry up offense...

I believe in order to reduce their rotation on the d line we should run some hurry up in certain situations. This will wear down there d line and allow us to gain the advantage if we run into a situation where they have a couple of their better pass rushers on the sideline, let’s run the hurry up and keep them there…

by Shovel51 on Oct 1, 2011 8:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

just the beginning

coming up is a long stretch of teams with really good defense, philly, giants, redskins, jets..this game against the bengals could set the stage for the coming weeks

by Billmak on Oct 1, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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