Brain Purge
by sireric on Sep 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT
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Print- There are a few things that I simply just don't understand.
1) We all knew that this team had lots of players at OLB and WR. So why is it so crazy to think that the Bills would have to make some hard decisions and cut players that we all (for whatever reason) like? I mean losing Coleman and Roosevelt isn't exactly crippling to this team at this point. Yes it would have been great to see them go to the practice squad but they would also have to agree to sign with the Bills and stay with them in that capacity. Maybe the Bills tried to sign them and they said, "No thanks I think I will try and find a job on an active roster somewhere." It just seems like the Bills still kept good players, it isn't like they kept guys that are worse. Why does everyone point their angst towards the Bills for cutting two guys who were undrafted free agents just one year ago? I don't get it.
1-A) On a side note do we even think that the 6th WR will even be on the field on Sundays? with Brad Smith as the 3rd QB/5th WR I am willing to bet that on most Sundays the Bills only keep 4 active WRs. Lets not forget that both Jackson and Spiller can line up wide vs a linebacker and create match up issues, (see Fred's catch over Poz in pre-season game vs Jags.) So all of the disappointment over losing what? A guy that wouldn't even play? I don't get it.
2) Why does everyone think that Levitre was in jeopardy of losing his job? Is it so inconceivable to think that Gailey wanted to reward Reinhardt for his good play and rather then take some much needed reps from a guy like Urbik, who needed them, he took them from his most experienced and possibly best lineman? Show me one quote from Gailey where he said that he was less then pleased with Levitre's play and that is why he was "demoted". Quite the opposite, when asked directly if he was unhappy with Andy's play Chan said he was not and that he was quite happy with it. Can we drop that ridiculousness please?
3) While I get that losing Pianalto kinda stinks, why is no one excited about picking up Lee Smith? Kid was a very sought after player once he was cut from the Pats. Five teams put in a claim for him. This kid could very well turn into the stud this team has been looking for since Pete Metzelaars left. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself but again this seems like fans are harping on the Bills for losing an undrafted kid that we only got to see play in a few pre-season games. He has an injury history from college, (one of the main reasons he went undrafted) and I can't remember anybody having him making the roster in any of their predictions. But now that he is lost it is a huge blow? What?
4) I have seem on several occasions were somebody has aid that the Aaron Williams pick was pointless. What? Really? At the time of the draft the only CBs the Bills had under contract were an aging McGee, an inconsistent and still unproven McKelvin, and Reggie Corner. That pick made a ton of sense. I don't get it.
5) And on that subject why do people insist on calling Spiller a bust? Dude has had one injury plagued year. Maybin was a bust, he was healthy and couldn't get on the field. Spiller may not have been the pick you or even I for that matter wanted. Yes I would have preferred a big lineman or really almost anything other then a RB, but that doesn't make Spiller a bust. Do I think Spiller could be an every down back in the NFL? I have my doubts. Do I think the Bills should have spent the 9th overall pick on a guy who might just be nothing more then a 3rd down scat back type player his whole career? No. Does that make Spiller a bust? Not in the slightest.
Maybe somebody can help me understand some of this silliness.
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Why is everyone so hung up on the fact that we cut Hang, That McKelvin is our starting CB and that We kept a ton of LB’s.
In a scheme where you potentially use 6 LB’s at the same time, it’s imperative that you have a wide veriety of LB’s, we have quick LB’s Barnett, Morrison we have slow LB’s Kelsay, Carrington, we have pass rushing LB’s Merriman and Moats and we have project LB’s Shep, White, Batten, Eddins.
McKelvin for better or for worse is a good corner, regardless of where he was drafted he is a good corner not Elite or great but good.
And Colin Brown is a big intriguing prospect and coupled with the fact that Jasper is moving to OL and both of thier salaries added together don’t = Hangs it was a smart roster decision.
"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover
Who knows on Hang. No one here is really seen him play guard, but the coaches have. I like Rhino, so I don’t see the point of Hang except as solely a backup C, which is a semi-useless thing to keep on the roster if you don’t want to play them at guard (this logic does not even rely on the fact he was overpaid to be a backup C, which he was).
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
I'll try to help with two of them:
Maybe the Bills tried to sign them and they said, “No thanks I think I will try and find a job on an active roster somewhere.”
Possible, but do you really think that’s likely? Was either of them claimed off waivers? Have they been invited to any other practice squads? Apparently not. If that’s what they decided, doesn’t seem like a very smart play for either of them.
On a side note do we even think that the 6th WR will even be on the field on Sundays?
I’ll answer that with a question: why does anyone think the Bills are actually going to through the season unscathed? This has been the most injury-plagued team in the league over the past few years. You’d think if it were up to those two players, especially a WR, they would realize they have the best shot of seeing the field with this team.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
Forgot this one:
Why does everyone point their angst towards the Bills for cutting two guys who were undrafted free agents just one year ago? I don’t get it.
Because they performed – on a team starved for good players.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
by thefourwinds on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s like Moats and the move to ILB, which you forgot to mention in your purge. ;-) The Bills have had an atrocious pass rush for years, Moats comes in and with what little opportunity he has shows he can do the job well…so they move him and bury him on the depth chart because he’s “too short”?
That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the leadership of a team that, again, is starved for people who can actually play the game against the other teams and not just in practice.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
Seriously, where Moats goes is a massive who cares. He’s not a starter in either spot or a primary reserve. He’s a developmental linebacker. Let them develop a guy without it being a ‘failure’ of leadership. Just so much cynicism with regard to coaching decisions its difficult to stomach.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
shows he can do the job well
i have some real issues with that statement. people got extremely carried away with the whole “dont cross the moats” thing. 2.5 sacks in 15 games is not exactly lighting it up. “better than the rest of the healthy scrubs” and “good pass rusher” are very different things. i did not find moats particularly gifted as a pass rusher at all is what im saying i guess… antonio coleman looked better (slightly less bad) on film to me in 2010
and a note on the receivers. ruvell martins on the team because hes a solid special teamer. ur 5th and 6th receiver are never gonna see the field on offense so it makes plenty of football sense to get value out of that roster spot on special teams. in the event of an injury, kamar aikens almost certain to get called up and leapfrog martin on the offensive depth chart.
1) I like Coleman and Roosevelt. But I really don’t care. The hit rate on guys I liked who were marginal on the roster is pretty low. It’s a lot of noise, usually about nothing. Coaches see a lot more tape of these guys than we do.
2) Levitre tweeted that he himself played poorly against the Bears. I really think Levitre and Bell have had the shakiest preseason. Moreover, he’s the smallest guard on the roster by about 30 pounds. And his run blocking in preseason was stinky. Of course his pass-blocking is solid. So I ain’t knocking the guy. But I don’t think he’s untouchable (and I’m okay with that).
3-5. Can’t help you answer these! Lee Smith is a solid pick up, like adding an extra mid round pick as far as I’m concerned. Like Aaron Williams. Spiller is TBD.
I have low expectations. But high hopes.
I must have missed the majority of the complaints that you are mentioning
I’ve seen more people upset over cutting Hang than anyone else.
Personally, I liked the Roosevelt story and thought it was cool that a UB kid was on the team. I didn’t flip when he was released, I trust the team to keep the best WRs because of the offense that is used in Buffalo. Coleman was another good story but so was Batten – guess they could only keep one…
I think people were under the impression that Levitre had to fight for his job because he lost starting reps. No, Chan never said he was demoted but he didn’t say he wasn’t either.
Sorry, I’m not excited about undrafted tight ends who probably won’t see the field much anyway – regardless if it’s Smith or Pianalto.
The Williams pick was fine – if he makes plays, I’ll love it. I would have rather seen them go with the TE from Notre Dame.
People a saying Spiller is a bust because as the 9th pick overall, fans were expecting a ROY type of performance (and because people like to overreact). I’m still not a fan of the pick but I expect him to play much better this year.
"It’s like I’ve always said, don’t tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby."
- Buddy Nix
"How can a guy with a name like Melo be such a pain in the ass?"
- George Lopez
smith was not undrafted. bellichick thought he was worth a 5th round draft choice. i, for one, thought he was good value a full round before that.
lee smith will be seeing the field a lot later in the season believe me, hes gonna block his way into playing time
excellent post. rec’d
the bills have made plenty of garbage moves in recent years, but hindsight is the only thing that allows us to confidently label them as garbage moves.
we wont know if the the team’s decisions presently being made are good ones until we have that gift of hindsight. the fanbase would do well to ease up on the cynical “everything they do is wrong, this team sucks!” attitude
My only gripe was Roose.
kid caught everything I saw thrown his way. Those kind of players find their way to #3/#4 spots and become contributors. I actually saw a rap video he was in that was pretty distasteful. Maybe his attitude/ethic/extra stuff had something to do with it.
GO BLUE!!!
You use the word “distasteful” as if there were some other kind of rap song/video.
Hi-yo! Slam on rap music. I kid, I kid. but seriously, did you ever notice you could use the words from Dr Seuss to rap with? That’s about the level of poetry you get in rap.
We’ve waited this long whats another year? hahahaha
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 6, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed brotha.
Except this artist I recently picked up on actually.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
GO BLUE!!!
wow
getting “rickroll’d” is worse than getting actually rolled
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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Sep 7, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd.
Agree on all points.
Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Sep 6, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Good Points
The Staff has close to 1,000 years of experience, so I trust their judgement on the 6th WR etc. I like picking up a guy like Smith because he had very good (and young) players ahead of him
Regarding Williams, I am not critical, but a little leary. The evaluations I saw had him highly rated as a safety, not an outside cover corner. He still represented good value, and may end up at safety some day.
The Staff has close to 1,000 years of experience
And that’s just Nix and Gailey and Ralph. If you add in Whaley and the other guys it goes up to almost 1100…
We’ve waited this long whats another year? hahahaha
- PaullyPforPrez
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 6, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
because..............
1.) Roosevelt went to UB and some people dig complaining.
1-A. You’re absolutely right, in my opinion.
2.) Because with the shortened off season and camp, it seems counterproductive. And, more
so, some people dig complaining.
3.) I agree again, Sir. I think its a very sound pick up. Like a 1958 Les Paul original PAF
pick up. I truly feel for Pianalto – liked his game. But I like Smith’s better. On the rest –
some folks would be pissed if you left a sack of money on their lawn and it ruined their view of the curb.
4.) I haven’t seen the jabberwocky that the Aaron Williams pick was “pointless.” But well, it
wouldn’t surprise me. I don’t think a team can ever have too many good CB’s. But you
know, some folks just dig complaining.
5.) We live in a drive-through world. If people don’t get instant happy meal gratification, they wet and crap themselves in a stew of angst. I find it kinda funny. Spiller may turn out to be a bust, may turn out to be a great pick. But its sure as heck to soon to tell. But then again, some folks just dig complaining. :)
by LeClaire Bill on Sep 6, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I think we agree, some people get off on complaining.
by cencalclassics on Sep 6, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
@ LeClaire Bill
Second best post of the day,right behind this article itself..Great Viewpoints
Wow.
Awesome reply. Everyone should hit the “Rec” button and turn this one green.
We’ve waited this long whats another year? hahahaha
- PaullyPforPrez
by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 6, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Before we go overboard..
Aren’t we owed the “benefit to doubt” here? How many times have the “whiners” been right the last 10 years? Too many to count. Let’s see some wins first before we demand some changing of tunes.
(although it should be noted that even during that awesome run in ’04, there were complainers to be found)
GO BLUE!!!
by Kumario! on Sep 6, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'ing this because you had the "stones" to say it
and I can only hope that people can tell the whiners from those who question the some of CHIX more curious moves.
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by Joe P. on Sep 6, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Complaining
If doubting this franchise makes you a complainer, then so be it. If we’re segmenting the fan base, let’s also make it clear that the Bill-lievers mostly take out their subconscious shame with aggression directed at other fans, rather the true source of their angst- the hapless Bills. Freud called this technique “psychological projection”. Whatever gets you through the season, I guess.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
That is kinda what set me off a little to post my Everyone needs to relax a bit I realized that the “optimists” were getting kinda vicious in the attacks on the “pessimists”. I know that I have been guilty of that a time or two and I saw that that wasn’t right.
If somebody was to say, “This team sucks because A, B, & C” Rather then getting into a pissing match with them and questioning why they root for the team, it is better to say, “Well what about D, E, F & G? Doesn’t that offset your claims and trump it?” This site should be more about intelligent conversation and sometimes we move very far away from that, and that is just as much, if not more so sometimes, the fault of an “optimist.”
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Complain?
What would there be to complain about being a Bill’s fan? Silly, just silly.
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I have the answer for all. A lot of fans have got used to complaining about everything, so they do and good moves go unnoticed or just get wrote off and the complaints about the Oline go back to the number one focus.
The loseing culture has reached everything that is Buffalo Bills football, logic is rarely envolved and thats how it will be till we make the playoffs. Even if we improve to 7-9,8-8, or 9-7, to a lot of people we will be a middleing team that can’t get over the hump and won’t be bad enough to hit rock bottom and win the Andrew Luck lottery.
I remeber some rumbelers here, at the same time last season saying the wouldn’t care if Lee Evans was traded, turn around this year and blast chix for doing it. The situation is just one of those things that logic and reason have little to do with. Ultra negativity is the word of the day for some people, and that’s just the way it will be till we make the playoffs.
I couldn’t agree more. I thought in 1980 under Knox that it had been forever since the Bills had even sniffed playoffs – and it was less than this drought. So, I reckon where the complaining comes from is very understandable. I just grow weary of the “damned if they do, damned if they don’t” angle.
Some people just could find the crap side of everything – and sometimes the Bills make that easier than it should be to accomplish, that’s true. But, life is too short to see the shizz in everything, from where i sit.
I think – and hope – that many will be pleasantly surprised by the upcoming season.
by LeClaire Bill on Sep 6, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t" is the absolute perfect way to desribe it.
Funniest thing i’ve seen in the last month was a fan post about how terrible the Oline is and why isn’t it fixed. Completely blasting Chix as a whole .Later in the thread the guy goes on to say that he really likes what Chix has done with the defense and really likes the draft picks on the defensive side of the ball, BUT why isn’t the Oline fixed. I was like…. damn I didn’t no it only takes to years to fix a team wholey and totally and make said team a super bowl contender.
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Who?
Who’s this guy Chix? A cute combo of two individuals? How cute.
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
wait what, you think they are cute ?
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice
I got nothing, good comeback, besides, I’m on the “watch list”. :)
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Perfect example – the mostly same people distraught with the release of Hang are the same ones, destroying him after Wilfork got done wiping Fitz around the turf with him. In many occasions, Nix is “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.” You can’t win.
by LeClaire Bill on Sep 6, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I would be OK with the Evans trade if I thought CHIX got good value. I would be OK with Hang losing his starting job as center, but that doesn’t mean I think he should have been cut.
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by Joe P. on Sep 6, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get where you’re coming from, Joe and we’ll have to agree to see it differently.
Did it go like this?:
Nix: “I want a 4th for Evans. He’s past his prime, we’re moving in a different direction and he asked nicely for a trade.”
Ozzie: “I’ll give you a 2nd and a conditional 6th”
Nix: “Naw, you fool. I said a 4th. I wanna put a burr under the saddle of sum folks.”
Der Jaeger has done a far superior job of casting light on the Hang situation than I could ever hope to.
And Nix spelled it out purty country clear today, too. :)
by LeClaire Bill on Sep 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
In negotiations, one has to remember that if the going market is not good, one doesn’t have to make the deal. That’s what Joe P. means by getting fair value. If the value wasn’t there, then the deal shouldn’t have been made.
Now, there are other factors, like Evans may have asked for a trade, the team may have decided he was in the way of Gailey’s offensive plans, etc. But it is important to remember that just because the market for WRs was bad, doesn’t mean the trade had to be made.
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I know exactly what he means sir. I don’t need your condescending explanation as if I am 12.
by LeClaire Bill on Sep 8, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No....I think Nix traded Evans because Evans
asked for it. I think he got want he could at the time…..a time that allowed Evans enough time to get into camp and learn his playbook, get some reps with Flacco, etc. Best for Evans….yes….best for the Bills this season…I don’t think so. I think the Bills could have gotten more for Evans before the draft or later in the season if the injury bug strikes a playoff contender. The NFL is a business, and that trade was bad business, IMO.
As far as Hang goes, there is no way any of the new guys have proven they are as good as Hang. More potential…yes, but they are not there yet. Chix are looking to the future…..a strategy I am actually not against. The issue I have with the Evans trade and cutting Hang is that it contradicts statements CHIX make about putting the best players on the field to win on Sunday at KC. And I understand CHIX can’t say to fans….“look, we are not going to the playoffs this season…again, but we are trying to develop our young players….maybe next year.” It makes be laugh that people see the moves CHIX make and still continue to believe they are trying to win games this season. Sure, they are trying…but building for the future clearly is more important to them….as it should be.
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I Concur
Seemed like Lee wanted out. I’ll give new regime props for honoring his request, it was right thing to do. I think Evan’s will be productive barring injury. Not enlightened enough to know if we got bad end of trade but remember a unhappy player is a unproductive player! Hang move: I’m more and more leaning toward Chan’s ability to staff correctly. I think he is genius like regarding offense, I’ll trust his judgement. Yep Their on a timetable and winning soon isn’t on the calendar. All and all I’m impressed with Chan, still pondering Nix. I lived in NC for a few yrs and I’ll tell ya Nix’s accent is quite southern.
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. NC to Seattle. Quite a travel. That due to job or family?
Year two is upon us.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Sep 7, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s hilarious that most of the responses on here amount to, “Some people get off on complaining about everything.” This reasoning is as bad as the polar opposite – people who think every move is the greatest move on earth.
There’s no way anyone who has seen my posts over the course of my 3.5 years on this blog could call me a complainer. That does not mean I don’t have sound arguments and points and reasons to not trust some of the recent decisions made by the leadership of this organization, as well as having a history of watching this team run off winners since the mid-1970s.
Thank you boomsauce for at least responding to my specific comment about Moats, though, again, your assumption was that I got caught up in “Don’t cross the Moats.” The fact remains he showed more pass rushing ability in actual games than any other young player on the roster.
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by thefourwinds on Sep 6, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I get what you are saying and I don’t want to make you or anyone else out to be a consumate complainer. But it just seems that way man. A year ago the only person that seemed to be upset about every move Chix made was Kurupt, now it’s changed and half the community here dosen’t see any good in any move made by the current FO. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing or that people shouldn’t have opinions(not that it would matter if I was saying that because hey, who the hell am I to tell anyone what to do), I’m just saying that the negative comments seem to come from the same places, and they come with a sweeping indictment on this regime, with no good logic or reason to back it up. No pro’s and cons are weighed….it comes off like this…..WTF are these morons doing, they are all too old and don’t know more than me about football.
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Calm Down
Evidently I’ve missed the great moves that have propelled us back to the glory yrs of at least making playoffs. Whats the start point for angst? 12 yrs or more?
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The start point is 3 years under a new regime.
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
thank-you
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by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you may be overstating things
1.
Why does everyone point their angst towards the Bills for cutting two guys who were undrafted free agents just one year ago?
Everyone? Even when there was only about 20 people on this blog, everyone never agreed on anything. As for why some people are upset about those 2 specific players…..who knows….everyone has their favorite “dark horse” players that they want to see become stars so they can thump their chest and say…..“See…told you so”……me included.
2. Because it was poorly handled by CHIX. If fans had been told what was going on, then we wouldn’t be left to wildly speculate. Of course, what fun would that be and CHIX owe us jack squat.
3. I will get excited about Lee Smith when he give me reason to be excited. Getting cut by the Pats isn’t enough of a reason.
4. Call it the Jauron effect. Bills fans are sick of seeing CBs drafted high and underperform. He may be a good pick, but at the time I felt we had bigger needs
5. The term bust does get thrown around to much. In Spiller’s case, he was taken so high when we clearly had bigger needs. The rationalization for this was that he would be this dynamic player who was a lock to be the offensive rookie of the year. Instead, his rookie season was soooo bad……I’m talking craptastic here….which got people loading the bust wagon early. Also, it depends on what you consider a bust. Should a player taken that high make a significant impact? If they don’t, when can they be called a bust?
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by Joe P. on Sep 6, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Agree on Spiller
It wasn’t the fact that Spiller was disappointing as a rookie that causes alarm, it was the fact that he was absolutely dreadful instead. Does that mean he’ll never get it? Of course not. But his dreadful rookie season certainly makes an unorthodox selection much more dubious until he turns the corner. Follow 2010 up with a repeat as putrid as last year and the odds of him busting will be pretty high.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
Spiller
In defense of Spiller our O/L is kinda not good/best in league. FJ can run behind O/L cause he’s got more experience running behind said line. Not that he set ypc record running behind our O/L. I think they addressed RB when they, sorry shoulda addressed O/L. But hey its been said a thousand times there was/is no O/L people to draft/sign, trust me I get that. The sooner CJ adjusts to Buffalo’s blocking schemes the better he’ll be. I still have hope that CJ will rise above poor O/L. play. And yes, I know other teams have poor O/L too! But my goodness its a who’s who with our O/L. Bottom line, CJ just needs to adjust to little blocking, he’ll be fine. Go Bill’s!
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and to be fair....Spiller has looked better this preseason
I hope that continues into the actual season. Either way, fair or unfair, Spiller is going to have to get much better if he is going to live up to where he was drafted.
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Oh Yeah
Its not fair, Spiller needs to turn on his rockets this yr. I’m ready! Go Bill’s!
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He does have a lot to prove, and yes another year like last year and the bust label will be printed and ready to stamp, but as of right now I don’t think he can be called a bust. I think He is a bust and He needs to get better or he will be a bust are obviously two different things and sometimes people around here can’t make that distinction.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think it may have been you (this is going back a few days so again I apologize if it wasn’t you) I think you said that he is your least favorite Bill. You may have even said most hated. If that was you who said that I was just curious as to why? And of course if it wasn’t PR and it was somebody else or if you do in fact feel that way but never said it then why?
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"least favorite"
I wrote something to the effect that while Jackson is one of my favorite players on the team and Spiller is probably my least favorite, if Spiller were to be getting the majority of the carries at some point this season it would be a very positive development (because he would have taken a bhuge step).
Personally, I don’t like C.J. Spiller’s running style. I don’t like running backs who are prone to huge negative runs that kill drives. The number of fumbles per touch he had last year was simply amazing. I thought the draft pick was weird to begin with and for him to follow it up with such a lousy season makes Spiler the last guy on the team I’d buy a beer for if I bumped into him at the bar. I’m certainly rooting for him. The team has plenty invested in him whether I believe in him or not (I don’t unfortunately).
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
I will get excited about Lee Smith when he give me reason to be excited. Getting cut by the Pats isn’t enough of a reason.
Love it, Joe P.! Rec’d for that statement.
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by thefourwinds on Sep 6, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are going to wait to get excited, then you should also wait to get disappointed.
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
funny
I’m gonna use your comment as a sig, is that OK?
Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!
by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Who on this entire blog has been disappointed with the acquisition of Lee Smith? How about something in the middle, like, “Let’s wait and see”?
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
I will get excited about Lee Smith when he give me reason to be excited. Getting cut by the Pats isn’t enough of a reason.
That is fine, but why does Pianalto deserve the love he has gotten? Honestly making the Bills and getting cut from the Pats is probably an on par achievement.
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
why does Pianalto deserve the love he has gotten?
Some possible reasons:
1. Because he actually did something out of the TE position in a Bills’ uniform besides block.
2. Because maybe for a brief moment it looked like Gailey might actually start trying to throw the ball to the TE (who could actually do something with the ball aftewards) which would actually force defenses to account for the TE, rather than just using the TE as a smaller OL-man.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
As long as the offense works why does everyone care if they throw the ball to the TE?
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
Well, I’m actually pretty upbeat about Gailey’s offense in general, and it certainly was more successful last year than under Jauron. However, the biggest problem this offense has is in the red zone, and a reliable pass-catching TE in the red zone could do wonders for them.
Maybe Smith can provide that in time.
Give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time, and he’ll eventually release Maybin. -- stetzwebs
Unfortunately, experience doesn't always lead to wisdom - Joe P.
maybe it is because we have had to endure repeated years of
watching our defense get killed by TEs catching passes down the middle of the field. Makes you wonder why we can’t do the same?
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You can call a guy a bust 10 min. after he is drafted, but I think 3 years is the time it generally takes to see whats what with a 22 year old guy that just left college.
by cencalclassics on Sep 7, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
KEEP YOUR PANTS ON!!!!.........
I thought this was the theme of the post, until I saw who the author was……. LOL.
For those who don’t know the story, take a look at sireric’s sig:
No weekend spent pantsless is a wasted weekend.
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Lee Smith
In a community mock draft, I took him in the 5th for our beloved Bills. When the Pats drafted him, I was a bit surprised considering the depth they had at the position. The fact that we got him without using a draft pick is a good thing.
Mark my words, adding Smith might be one of the best moves that CHIX has done since the draft. We all know that we can use all the help we can get in creating lanes for the running game and in keeping Fitz off his back. But Lee Smith’s hands are underrated IMO and he could turn into something we’ve been missing for years… a TE that can move the chains on 3rd and 6-7.
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by Run Thurmal Run! on Sep 8, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
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