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Buffalo Bills Claim OL Sam Young On Waivers

The Buffalo Bills have claimed offensive tackle Sam Young on waivers, reports Jason La Canfora of NFL.com.

Young was waived by the Dallas Cowboys on Monday to make room on their roster for free agent signee Derrick Dockery. A sixth-round pick of the Cowboys in the 2010 NFL Draft, Young was a four-year starter at Notre Dame, but spent much of his year-plus in Dallas buried on the depth chart.

The 6'8", 332-pound Young certainly fits the size prerequisite, as Chan Gailey and the Bills have consistently sought out massive offensive linemen with the goal of getting bigger and more physical up front in mind. Young is not, however, an impressive athlete, and because of his height may only be able to get looks at right tackle.

In order to make room on the roster for Young, the Bills released veteran wide receiver Ruvell Martin, who stuck out like a sore thumb in a very young and developing receiving corps.

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so...

possible starter later in the year?

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by m_young28 on Sep 6, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Possible? With the way things panned out last yr it’s a definite.. Hahaha hey I don’t mind this pick up. Buy I gotta think that with dallas’s line the way it is which I’m pretty sure is bad, and this guy couldn’t stick on their roster then he prob won’t matter much in the long run. Buy who knows he’ll def get a look and prob even start at some point this yr..

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by OC-BILLS-FAN on Sep 7, 2011 2:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Funny how things work out. We dump Dockery, they acquire him, dump Young, and we pick him up.

Year two is upon us.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Sep 6, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

not sure what to pull from this but Rec’d it anyways just for the irony of it all!

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Sep 6, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully we get garrard – they got poz we get morrison… they got trent we get garrard..

no one circles the wagon like the buffalo bills!

by Eric the Actor on Sep 6, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!.......AWESOME.....rec'd

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by Joe P. on Sep 6, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, thanks. I almost want to use my own quote for my sig.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 7, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Wonder if Chris Berman will steal that one for his next ESPN mention of the Bills.

We’ve waited this long whats another year? hahahaha
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 7, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We SHOULD be

stealing players from New England when they drop… oh, wait. check.

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by kgun201 on Sep 6, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How old is he

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by matthew62 on Sep 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thank you from the picture he just looks old and fat.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Sep 6, 2011 4:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Boy I hope he plays stronger and more athletic than he looks in that photo. One thing I learned early on in athletic is that there are lots of ways in which an athlete can be bigger…and not all of those translate to stronger or better. I hope he just looks like Jane and plays like Tarzan.

by WhatGoesAround on Sep 6, 2011 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He is going to suck

mark my words. what’s my proof, you ask. I don’t know, if we got him…I’m assuming he’ll suck.

by JJS on Sep 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

The Scientific Method at work

by paxon on Sep 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

that actually made me laugh out loud

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by m_young28 on Sep 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? That's your comment?

I can’t believe the commentary sometimes. There’s, on the one hand, whining that the Bills didn’t do anything along the O-line (count me in that crowd) and then when they pick up a four year starter from a big name school, for nothing, nada, zilch, zip, there’s the “he is going to suck” comments.

Me? This looks like another of the Urbik / Rinehart moves. Costs nothing and pays nice dividends. Also continues the pace of remaking what was a craptastic Jauron era team. Nice pick up.

by CGoetz on Sep 6, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hmm

Thats upbeat, nice. And I agree, any O/L help we get can’t be bad.

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jauron team

We constantly dump on him (I do to), but half the starters two years later came from jauron. I am refraining from dumping on him any more tell gailey has a btr record.

by wab2 on Sep 7, 2011 6:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think it was a serious comment.

Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks

by Dyl on Sep 7, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

All things considered...

We could put a roll of toilet paper in at tackle and get better protection than what we currently have.

by Khegobier on Sep 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that’s quite an interesting and inaccurate indictment of Erik Pears. He’s not been an amazing player this preseason, but he’s been alright and not the source of our OL woes either.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must’ve referring to the rough, sandpaper like toilet paper that you find at some low end establishments. That stuff is brutal!

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by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 6, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is just plain wrong!
…a roll of toilet paper

Is this a cheap jab at Colin Brown? ;)

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by ChipShot on Sep 6, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

last name first, please. TP for my BC…

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by dzil on Sep 6, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take it! Anything that isn’t status quo has to be good.

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by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Brian how had pears bern doing at rt. have not heard much about.him.

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by matthew62 on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you mean the Mike Gandy

who a couple years ago was the Cardinals starting LT leading them to a SB and without a doubt their best lineman?

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by panekattack on Sep 6, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He means the Mike Gandy that was absolutely terrible in Buffalo then went on to play LT on a team with a left handed QB and little talent along the rest of the offensive line that rode along for a ride to the Super Bowl.

by crooked5 on Sep 7, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought kurt warner was right handed?

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by Gpluehri on Sep 7, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are totally right. This is why I shouldn’t post after midnight — got him and Leinart confused. I’m shaking my head at myself.

by crooked5 on Sep 7, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rest of my statement is still true though.

by crooked5 on Sep 7, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warner was right handed

and although Gandy didn’t play amazing here he was still a good enough to be a starter and then good enough LT to get his team to the SB? If he wasn’t he wouldn’t have been a starter for a Super Bowl team correct? Personally I’d take Gandy over Bell or Pears anyday just because neither is consistent or proven anything at all at the NFL level. There’s literally a ton of guys better than Gandy but I’m just not sure Gandy is a guy getting the cheap shots on here.

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by panekattack on Sep 7, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good pickup.

Young kid, started all 4 years at a big school, can play RT

Sounds alot like Chris Hairston in my mind

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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If Brown is cut, the logic for cutting Hangartner is sound

Buffalo had Bell-Levitre-Wood-Urbik-Pears. Rinehart is the first off the bench at guard, and allows Levitre or Urbik to play center if Wood gets injured. Hairston is the swing tackle. Brown was development until someone better came along.

That someone just came along.

Hairston can now focus on LT, as well. Good pick-up. And Brown can still go to the PS since Buffalo has one spot remaining.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't follow

What’s the correlation to cutting Hangartner that validates that move?

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by Port Royal on Sep 6, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe the point is that 1 roster spot on the Oline remains fluid based on the talent that hits the waiver wire.

by boomsauce on Sep 6, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hang and Rinehart would be redundant depth, I believe is the point. Young allows Hairston to focus on LT which he focuses on RT and Rinehart on the inside. Young is more polished than Brown, at least from what I’m understanding, and able to step in and play if need be. I might be wrong about that, though.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Brown wasn't cut either

So I don’t follow, too

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by Kurupt on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

See below

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 6, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gailey’s starting five are Bell-Levitre-Wood-Urbik-Pears. However, in that group, both Levitre and Urbik can play center. The team also has a starting guard (they believe) in Rinehart. So keep Hangartner wasn’t necessarily required. If Wood got hurt, Gailey slides Urbik or Levitre to center, and Rinehart starts at the vacated guard position.

Add to that mix Hairston, who becomes the team’s swing tackle. That’s seven linemen that the team knew if was going to keep.

Brown becomes the developmental project, who could be dumped at any time if the waiver wire had a better player. That player came today in the form of Sam Young.

I did anticipate the team dumping Brown, but they dumped Ruvell Martin instead. I still don’t think Brown is long for the 53-man roster. I think he’s a developmental project that’s holding a spot, for now, until someone better comes along.

In the end, Buffalo still has good depth at guard and center, a decent back-up option at RT, and now has the freedom to focus Hairston at LT. Hangartner wasn’t really needed.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 6, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well since Ruvell Martin got tossed, it makes me think that Easley is going to be active on game days now

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by WABillsfan on Sep 6, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends… easley is still the sixth wideout behind brad smith….

by DynamicHero22 on Sep 6, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i called this.

literally asked my buddy who is a huge ND fan about this kid yesterday before our fantasy draft… cuz i saw him being a potential add after Dallas released him….and low and behold, signed today. he fits what we would like to have, i am not surprised by this at all. big kid, fairly bright, long arms.

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by ThaRealTruth on Sep 6, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

good flier

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Sep 6, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

This is.....

Were D.Martin career as a Bills ends

by Bufbills on Sep 6, 2011 4:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

No they released ruvelle and add a cb to ps.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Sep 6, 2011 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, than that's ok

I was just playing up the dramatics.

by JJS on Sep 6, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know lol I just got the text from.them about it.

"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus

by matthew62 on Sep 6, 2011 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is.....

Were D.Martin career as a Bills ends

by Bufbills on Sep 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

looks like you’re already stuttering ;-)

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by fansince60 on Sep 6, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

but...but...but

I don’t wan…wanna…him…go…a-a-Away

by JJS on Sep 6, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost

It was R. Martin who was released to make room.

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by Caymon on Sep 6, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Know nothing about him

but when you look at the resume, i.e. 6th round pick, buried in the depth chart, cut by another team, big kid…the only thing missing is he didn’t go to GT.
has to be at least back up material which we need desperately.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Sep 6, 2011 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I share your “eh” about this signing. I don’t really see the upside, but I’ll hold off judgment and hope that Nix and Gailey know what they’re doing with the OL (as I have been all off season).

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

upside = he can change light bulbs in the locker room without a ladder…

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Sep 6, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that is what Gailey is looking for in his OL these days.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he can run block/pass/block I wouldn’t care if he had 2 heads.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Sep 6, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer 4 arms in an OL, but I concur nonetheless.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reports from Fox Sports the David Garrard has been released....

I would gladly take him over Thigpen. A better Veteran QB, mobile, and has had some success throwing the ball. Someone I could see as a good back up behind Fitz.

by Dareurush! on Sep 6, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see Garrard as an upgrade to Thiggy at this point. Although he hasn’t looked good in pre-season, he was still trying to get used to the playbook and wr’s without mini-camps or anything of that nature . We’d be in the same boat if Garrard came to Buffalo now.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except Garrard’s been a starter for years. I tihnk it’s a clear upgrade talent-wise. It may take him a while to get familiar, but once he does he’ll be better. He’s also mobile, like Fitz, so he’d fit into the system well enough.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being a starter for years doesn’t necessarily mean a clear upgrade talent-wise in my opinion.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, describe Thigpen:

a veteran QB, mobile, has had some success throwing the ball, good back up behind Fitz. THERE THE SAME GUY.

by JJS on Sep 6, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are in no way the same guy.

Garrard’s Rating: 85
Thiggy’s Rating: 74

Garrard’s TD/INT: 89/54
Thiggy’s TD/INT: 21/17

Garrard’s Probowls: 1 (2009)
Thiggy’s Probowls: 0

Also, he’s led teams to playoff appearances. Thiggy led a team to a 2-14 record. The comparison is laughable, to me.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s comparing Garrard’s what 9 years in the league to Thiggy’s 5? That’s not an accurate comparison at all for any of those stats.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pro Bowls maybe, but the other two are based on ratios and averages, so it doesn’t matter how long they are taken over. Thiggy’s sample size is smaller, but in every possible comparison (W/L record, starting experience, playoff experience, rating, TD/INT ratio, etc.), Garrard is better.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you that, however if you look at Garrard’s first 5 years vs Thiggy’s they’re pretty close in terms of all those stats. Garrard was made into a starter in Jax, Thiggy hasn’t really had that chance yet minus 2008 when he was kind of forced into the role for the Cheifs. I just don’t see the point in dumping Thiggy, to pick up Garrard, when hopefully either/or would just sit on the bench and watch Fitzy tear it up. Besides Thiggy knows his role as a back up on this team right now. Garrard most likely wants to start somewhere.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with the point about Garrard wanting to start, which is why I don’t think he comes here in a million years. He’s a very capable backup, at least, so a team like the Colts should jump on the chance to pick him up, at least.

But yeah, right now, he’s better than Thiggy, and so would make a better backup.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

“But yeah, right now, he’s better than Thiggy, and so would make a better backup.”

But at $8.075 million? {What Garrard was due to receive this year}

That’s a mighty expensive backup . . .

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care about money at all. I make it a habit to ignore payroll and look expressly at the product placed on the field. If they are sucking, then I blame it on the talent brought it or not brought in (regardless of cost). If they are winning, I attribute it to the talent much the same way. I don’t really consider the payroll at all. It’s Nix’s job to spend money wisely, and if bringing in Garrard means we have a capable backup then so be it.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

" It’s Nix’s job to spend money wisely"

And Spending $8 mil on a player who, ideally, will not get on the field except in garbage time — isn’t . . .

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do I care? It’s hit job to worry about it.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

  • his

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s due zip after the first week of the season. If we signed him today, yes it’d be $8MM. I’m sure it wouldn’t happen until after Sunday.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Sep 6, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really seems no one gets this point

It goes for Olinemen too, they will pick up more after the first game
And I don’t see us going for Garrard, Thigy is a Chan guy. I would be totally surprised if our first FA pick up went that fast.

by zoomer02 on Sep 7, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

@ Stetz

Thiggy’s sample size is smaller because he hasn’t proven to be a better player than Garrard has. Simple and plain.

by phaze1 on Sep 6, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thiggy’s sample size is smaller because he’s been in the NFL 4 fewer seasons than Garrard has.

If you want a truly objective comparison of the two, wait until their respective careers end . . .

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it’s not what you’re arguing, but I don’t want a fair comparison. I want to know who is the better QB right now, and it’s not even a competition in my eyes.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want a fair comparison. I want to know who is the better QB right now, and it’s not even a competition in my eyes.

The key words in that statement are “in my eyes”.

Your eyes are not the eyes of either Del Rio or Gailey.

As for your statement above about not caring about the payroll, that’s easy to do — when it’s neither your money nor are you the one in charge of spending it . . .

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t deny that, which is why I don’t worry about it.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

picture caption contest?

I’d start, but the only one I can think of would be deleted ;)

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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Sep 6, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

caption

“Now turn your head and cough”

by Parijp on Sep 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE

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by BigEasyBillsKrewe on Sep 6, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

caption 2

“So how does it feel to be picked up by the Bills Sam?”

“Well…it feels a lot like…….THIS!!”

by Parijp on Sep 6, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY???????

YOU KNOW WHY!!!!!!

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by Joe P. on Sep 6, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id argue...

Thiggy is more mobile than Garrard.

Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"

by bflo on Sep 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t say otherwise.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying you did.

But the point that Garrard is mobile, as one of the potential reasons to bring him on board, Im just saying I think Thiggy might be more mobile… not that its a huge difference.

Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"

by bflo on Sep 6, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point that Garrard is mobile isn’t a reason to bring him on board, it’s a reason not to not bring him on board…see? Makes perfect sense to me :)

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

(head explodes)

Haha.

Fitz = M(C)²
"Lets Go Buff! a! lo!"

by bflo on Sep 6, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. He has been underrated in my opinion. I would love to have him as a #2 QB.

by WhatGoesAround on Sep 6, 2011 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fair Media Treatment

I read a couple articles about it, but I hope the media blasts the Jaguars for basically doing what we did with Trent Edwards. At least with us, he got a shot in the regular season. The “the bills have no professionalism” articles were in overabundance. And I don’t thing I have really ever complained about the media….

by WagonCircler12 on Sep 6, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t hold your breath. PAts look like they are gonna lose a bunch of high draft picks in Butler, Merriweather, Tate, and possibly Brace. But they are gonna get credit for running a meritocracy.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 6, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

We wouldn’t want anyone to say anything bad about the pats….wouldn’t want the hoodie to get mad….or Teddy Bruschi to go Terry Tate in the news room

by WagonCircler12 on Sep 6, 2011 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bills release Ruvell Martin to make space

by Josh Elmer on Sep 6, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm, so if young works out, and they release brown, maybe Aiken or Roosevelt to active roster ?

by dgrid on Sep 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like just this morning I was reading an article on how Ruvell was happy to be in Buffalo and looking forward to contributing on special teams.

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by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of unintelligent

and ignorant comments in here….

The guy was buried on the depth chart and Dallas prob hoped he would stay on the PS. If you look around the league there are a lot of Undrafted guys and late round picks that took time to develop as good to great OL guys

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by billsoferie on Sep 6, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Which comments in particular? I don’t see anything but optimism here.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is going to suck mark my words. what’s my proof, you ask. I don’t know, if we got him…I’m assuming he’ll suck.

All things considered… We could put a roll of toilet paper in at tackle and get better protection than what we currently have.

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-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 6, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, fair enough. :)

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like someone

does not understand sarcasm . . .

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way

It gets old

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-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 6, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was practice squad-eligible, and I don’t think Dallas wanted to lose him. They just wanted an experienced guy on the bench.

From NFL DraftScout:

Pass blocking: Height, arm length and strong punch make it easy for him to engulf smaller ends. Keeps his feet moving after kick slide, taking a sharp angle back to protect the pocket. Stays with his man after initial contact to prevent secondary rush. Fair anchor, keeping his weight forward and hands working to maintain distance with defender. Cut blocks more quickly and efficiently than you would expect at his height, both on quick throws and when trying to protect the quarterback. A bit slow in his lateral movement, and may struggle to mirror against NFL speed on the edge. Must improve his awareness of late blitzers instead of focusing on inside double when it is unnecessary.

Run blocking: Good drive blocker despite his height, getting low and pushing back the line. Strong enough to turn his man inside or outside. Leans forward too far on the move, which causes him to lose his balance and struggle to do more than get a hand on his target – but most times that’s all he needs to do at his size against linebackers and safeties.

Pulling/trapping: Lacks the footwork to pull or trap effectively. Inconsistent at sustaining on the second level, but usually gets a hand on a linebacker and safety when on the move. Has a tough time adjusting to fast-closing defenders.

Initial Quickness: Average quickness into kick slide and set in pass protection for a big right tackle. Drives off the ball well but is a bit slow and can be out-quicked by ends and tackles off the snap.

Downfield: Height and average footwork make him lumber in space, but gives good effort to hit multiple targets. Will join a play 10-15 yards downfield to push the pile forward. Should dominate smaller players in space, but his lack of body control allows them to avoid or get off blocks too consistently.

Intangibles: Experienced, durable, intelligent lineman. Plays with great effort and a nasty attitude, and is a vocal leader on and off the field.

NFL Comparison: Jeremy Trueblood, Buccaneers

did the Bills just pick up an undiscovered Orlando Pace? Probably not. A guy who has some tools, some pedigree and may develop into a serviceable NFL player? Just maybe.

by Brian in Shortsville on Sep 6, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Orlando Pace? Probably Not. Tyson Clabo (Yes, the guy that some fans consider the worst non-signing in the history of professional sports)? Maybe. Reminder: Clabo was an undrafted free agent.

by crooked5 on Sep 7, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

And

And remember Clabo wasn’t interested in Bill’s, we was used!

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weird that we are only keeping 5 WR's

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-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 6, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t forget Brad Smith kind of unofficially makes it 6-ish.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Spiller will split out wide a lot. It does pay to have versatile skill position players, despite how much complaining Rumblers did over the offseason.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea so between Spiller and Smith we definitely have 6 total. I am counting both as a half WR.

by joe r on Sep 6, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i get that

And we need depth in other positions.

Just really wanted Roosevelt

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-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Sep 6, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are one WR IR injury away to resigning Roosevelt.
Injuries always happen at some point.
Unless somebody else beats us to it.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Sep 6, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If someone gets hurt like for the Giants, we might lose Roosevelt, the kid can play

Not the best measurables guy, but he will get the job done.

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by WABillsfan on Sep 6, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the other weapons on the team (CJ, Jackson, Smith), it’s probably not a big deal. If some injuries hit, Aiken looks like a future player and they may be able to plug him in at the bottom of the depth chart.

by paxon on Sep 6, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice pickup

I wanted to draft him…but this gives us depth…wonder if we can get Roosevelt back

by Dingus Day on Sep 6, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure. Why not.

Rinehart is the primary guard reserve, then Brown, a more developmental prospect at guard. Hairston seems to be groomed as a LT/swing tackle. This provides us with one more tackle reserve for RT. Clearly a work in progress, but sounds like a run-blocking RT.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 6, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

final PS spot
The Bills also added cornerback Doyle Miller to their practice squad three days after cutting the undrafted rookie

READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL
Let's go Buffalo!
Go Gamecocks!

by jasman on Sep 6, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Roosevelt

Why not add Roosevelt to PS, since we are now getting short on WRs? Also, why wasn’t Coleman added to PS? Doesn’t look like either made another team. Vey curious. Coaching staff must not have liked them, despite all their playing time and media write ups.

by labill on Sep 6, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not add Roosevelt to PS, since we are now getting short on WRs?

As jasman said above you,

The Bills also added cornerback Doyle Miller to their practice squad three days after cutting the undrafted rookie

The PS is now full

.

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by go_buff on Sep 6, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't add a guy with a limited ceiling to the practice squad

Roosevelt’s ceiling is limited. OBD already knows he catches phenomenally, he runs good routes, and doesn’t play special teams. He’s not going to ever get any faster, so why put him on the PS if you already know he’s not going to develop into something more than he is today? Makes sense… Although I personally love the guy, too. Wish we kept him as a possession receiver. We could certainly use a clutch receiver!!

by WizwixT on Sep 6, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Namaan

He’s hurt.

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by cjf4 on Sep 7, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Formulaic

This is exactly what OBD said that they wanted to do and they did it. I doubt they are done.

Go big or go home.

by jackkemp15 on Sep 6, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Watched every game he played at ND. Doesn;t make me a Sam Young expert, but.

When he came to the Irish, everyone thought he was going to be a stud tackle. He did start as a freshman and played in every game in his four years, but these are the most redeeming qualities as a player.

His style of play is just too soft. He’s awful when it comes to leverage, due to his height and lack of athleticism. After his junior season most other ND fans felt that he just never lived up to the hype he had when first brought into ND. My buddies and I would be watching the games; at times during his senior season when we finally realized he was an awful pass protector. We’d just watch him on plays, for our own amusment. It seemed he would routinely get beat and just had no pass protection ability what so ever. His run blocking as a RT seems somewhat adequate to justify him being an NFL player, but just a player who as an ND fan, I was so pleased we never drafted him.

Now, he’s on the roster. I hope he has developed with the coaching he got with the Cowboys, rather than the ineptitude of the Irish coaching that seemed to not be able to properly develop players while he was at ND (especially guys on the O & D lines). He might be better than Wang or any of the other players that didn’t make the 53 man roster, I just don’t see it.

Just how I feel about a guy I’m pretty familiar with, and I’m usually a big time ND homer when it comes to the late round or un-drafted players that I feel were solid at ND, and he’s one of the rare guys I’m not a fan of.

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by SouthBuffaloNDgrad on Sep 6, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I agree

Thats a fair assessment. There are a lot of players that didn’t pan out under Chuck Weis though. As good as Charlie is at sitting in a booth and calling plays while eating cheeseburgers he did a TERRIBLE job of developing anyone who wasn’t a QB. WRs ran terrible routes, Kelly was pretty disappointed when he arrived to find that Floyd couldn’t run crisp routes. Not to mention the only route that Golden ran while he was in school was that fade down the sideline. The guys never developed because they were never coached to develop. Charlie let them do whatever they wanted. With that said I do agree that Sam Young disappointed in his time in South Bend (as did a lot of guys from 2007-2009). Hopefully he has developed some technique, he’s a big guy.

by NDbuffalo on Sep 6, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

YES!!!

A ND fan and a bills fan…Its a first besides me. I love both teams and we shoulda started Reese all along, not sayin kelly doesnt know what hes doing. But back to the bills. Its nice to see some of our college product come into the NFL and esp joining the bills. I beleive this is a upgrade to the RT and just put him in during run plays or roll out pass plays opposite to RT

by awmolq on Sep 6, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd both Notre Dame guys

for providing true analysis here. Nicely done and appreciated.

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by poz on Sep 6, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch

Truth hurts!

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Young

“Young is however not a impressive athlete”. That hurts.

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

nix says

he watched him alot in college, excellent run blocker, his
strength….

by simonpure on Sep 6, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

If someone put a gun to my head and asked me to predict which team got the better of this deal (Bills or Cowboys), I’d have to say the Bills.

No idea whether this kid will develop at all, but give him a shot. I’d rather have him than Dockery.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 6, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Especially at how much they probably have to pay Dockery.

by crooked5 on Sep 7, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup – man that guy has made an awful lot of money off being a so-so guard.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 7, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try out

Give him a shot. What do we have to lose by signing this monster..? Nada. He is massive and if the get bigger to be better theme works.. im all for it. I just hope fitz can see over these guys unless we sign a 7ft qb next year.
Hairston is a giant on the left..then Jasper taking double teams in the middle and Young on the right side.
What part of 6’8" and 340lbs with a great college career backed with a reputation for durability to make it an entire season doesnt appeal to some of you guys?

by Feedjasper on Sep 6, 2011 11:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well

You asked. Considering our O/L to date, absolutely nothing! He’s probably better than what were using now.

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 6, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much. The ND fans seem to think he was subpar but a young guy that big with ability is something we are in the market for to try and develope. If he dont pan out no real loss..if he pans out we just improved our OL or at least its depth.

by Feedjasper on Sep 7, 2011 12:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

And I agreed with you! Feedjasper. I’m starting to think Jasper may be our next LT. Why not?

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by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprising in a way..

I watched the senior bowl at least 10 times and was underwhelmed at Young’s play in that one game. Of course, he was matched up against players like Cameron Jordan from Cal who was a 1st round selection. This comment from NFL Draft Scout: “Initial Quickness: Average quickness into kick slide and set in pass protection for a big right tackle. Drives off the ball well but is a bit slow and can be out-quicked by ends and tackles off the snap.” proved very true in that game. He was regularly abused. What surprises me is that CHIX had so much time to evaluate the players from both squads in that game, and still picked him up. Maybe they saw more in practice that encouraged them about his play. For the present, I will hold my judgement about his ultimate worth in a Bills uniform, hoping of course, for the very best.

by dukedoc76 on Sep 7, 2011 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong senior bowl dude. Young was drafted in 2010 draft. Gailey and Cam Jordan participated in the 2011. Who u watching?

by DJ O on Sep 7, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we got a little bit Young er today.

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by VanScottM on Sep 7, 2011 1:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Dang

Why did I laugh?

Hey, win or lose we'll look better in our new uniforms! Go Bill's!

by buffalobacker on Sep 7, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Low risk waiver wire signing

at a position of need, after the vet guarantees are done with next week , we will pick up another guy or two. I like this guy, Ryan Cook (Minnesota signed 2 year contract after the lock out) plays all positions on the line, 28 years old, played rt for them when AD was having very big years, came back to be a guard this year but they have newer younger guys and a new staff. IMO a Nix type of vet pick up.

by zoomer02 on Sep 7, 2011 2:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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