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Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix Approval Poll: September 2011

Near the start of every month, we're going to poll the readers of Buffalo Rumblings on their state of mind regarding the chief decision-makers of the Buffalo Bills. This is your poll to state your pleasure, or lack thereof, with GM Buddy Nix. Here are some stories Nix has been heavily involved with over the last month.

  • Traded receiver Lee Evans to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for a 2012 fourth-round pick. Later confirmed a report (to the extent explained here) that Jim Overdorf was heavily involved in trade negotiations.
  • Waived third-year pass rusher Aaron Maybin, the No. 11 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.
  • Signed veteran linebacker Kirk Morrison to a one-year deal after Reggie Torbor was placed on Injured Reserve.
  • Signed defensive tackle Kyle Williams to a six-year, $39 million contract extension with $17 million guaranteed. Remained $24 million under the salary cap after the deal.
  • Has reportedly discussed contract extensions with both Steve Johnson (link) and Roscoe Parrish (link). The Bills and Johnson are not yet close to a deal.
  • Prominent roster cuts included Naaman Roosevelt, Shawn Nelson, Ed Wang, Geoff Hangartner, Antonio Coleman and Reggie Corner.
  • Acquired two players via the waiver wire: tight end Lee Smith (link) and tackle Sam Young (link). Released tight end Zack Pianalto and receiver Ruvell Martin in the process.
  • Confirmed that the team is grooming rookie fourth-round pick Chris Hairston as the left tackle of the future.

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Previous Five Approval Polls
76% approval March 2011 (7% disapproval)
79% approval April 2011 (5% disapproval)
92% approval May 2011 (2% disapproval)
92% approval June 2011 (2% disapproval)
73% approval August 2011 (10% disapproval)

Poll
Do you approve of the job that Buddy Nix is doing as general manager of the Buffalo Bills?
Approve
1807 votes
Disapprove
417 votes
Not Sure
489 votes

2713 votes | Poll has closed

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The unspoken portion of Nix’s mantra ‘We going to build through the draft[sic]’ has held true; that is, that he’s also going to build through the waiver wire.

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by cjf4 on Sep 9, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I put "not sure"

Bad: His inability to control the situation in the Evans trade, which resulted in the Bills getting little in return for him. His failure to sign Johnson.

Good: The Williams signing. Good waiver wire acquisitions. Waiving Maybin.

Indifferent: The Morrison signing. Grooming Hairston to be a starter (that is merely prudent, not exceptional).

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by Calvert on Sep 9, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sure that it’s fair to say that he’s “failed” to sign Johnson. Johnson is still under contract, and negotiations haven’t been going on for very long. He’s only failed once he’s failed.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well said. It’s way too early to say he “failed” with Stevie. We all know they’re not gonna let arguably their best player on offense hit the open market.

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

They wouldn’t let that happen? The same GM that gave walking papers to Mitchell, the captain, to Hangartner, the man meant to be our center, Poz, Lee Evans, Owens, Stroud, J. Scott, Lynch…couldn’t offer enough money to Schobel to get him to play……Don’t tell me they wouldn’t do that

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand.

Are you comparing the situation with Steve Johnson to all of those guys? Don’t you think that everyone of these players has a completely different situation. To base your beliefs on them is pretty far fetched.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To assume that the team ‘owes him’ something because he is an important/integral part of the team and thus they’ll break the bank for him….is far fetched, my point is that they’ll let anyone go to save a buck or get a younger player who might eventually be better

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no doubt in my mind that if Stevie is begging for starters money…(therefore, they are ‘far off’ in negotiations) they would have no problem with letting him walk

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of them yes, Poz could have been resigned, as could a few others who were in negotiations

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Poz is just not that good.

I think it is more of a scheme issue than a fact that we just didn’t throw enough money at him. Everyone comes back to the contract amount when they have team and scheme in mind first.

If Johnson plays out the same as Poz then we have a problem. It is obvious he is a scheme fit.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What makes him obviously a scheme fit and Poz not…Poz is best suited for the 3-4?
And the point isn’t what they offered or contract amount, its the “they wouldn’t let him walk” mentality

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch what he did last year?

That is what makes it obvious.

Poz didn’t fit.

Mitchell, Owens, Lynch, Stroud…not even worth wasting key strokes on these guys. If you want to get hung up on the “Let them walk mentality” go for it.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Yes.

Poz is best suited for the 3-4., Gailey, Niz and Poz think so. And 7 million dollars of Jacksonville money hopes so.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you mean 4-3?

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by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There is no mentality.

They kept guys they wanted and let guys go they didn’t. I have a “I like sandwiches at lunch” mentality apparently. Just because they are putting together a team with their own selected guys is that so bad? They resigned Williams…right? So they have a “Keep our best players whether we drafter them or not” mentality too I guess.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you’d be the first to support them resigning Kelsay…I did watch last year, I know the knocks on Poz, but he’s better than what we were willing to pay for, which is the whole point of the argument anyways…we’ve strayed away from it…the point is that there is ‘0’ guarantee that they WILL sign Johnson just because he is good

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really a fan of Kelsey.

But good point. They should have used their “Let them walk” mentality on that one.

I agree with you that there is no guarantee on Johnson just because he is good. Let’s find out if he is good before we sign him long term…makes sense to me to do it that way.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the end.

We can probably think of just as many decent players that “they let walk” as we can that they kept around.

There is no mentality.

If they want the player…they will keep the player.
Assuming the player wants us.

by Falls4Life on Sep 9, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly!!

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by jbbillfan on Sep 9, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be safe for a wait and see approach for johnson, just to make sure last year wasm’t a fluke

by Mperk on Sep 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially after that drop against the Lions.

The contract is in Stevie’s hands, put up or shut up. There is know doubt in my mind that the Bills put an offer on the table that would give him a substantial raise. The gap between that proposal and Stevies agent will have to be determined on Stevie’s play. So let him play for us to pay.

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by VanScottM on Sep 9, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

But still these don’t sit with me:

1.) Trading Evans (unquestioned WR leader)
2.) Losing Poz (our #1 priority in off-season)
3.) Not addressing OL in free agency

I know it’ll take time to turn it around but there were free agents on the OL that we should have overpaid for.

Last thing was releasing Maybin. While we can’t disagree with his lack of production why didn’t the Bills bring aboard a retired LB to teach him how to play the position. Someone to tutor him. We have apprentice electricians – why not make him an apprentice LB? He was a 1st round pick and a large $$$ investment. Investing in helping him with some sort of mentor would have been nice to see.

by BuffaloFanFromCT on Sep 9, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

But on the other hand they got Barnett and Morrison which in my mind are better than pos, also it is time for the young wr’s to step up like Stevie did and become leaders. I do agree with the o line though I’m a little worried about them this year..

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by mroy1239 on Sep 9, 2011 10:15 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

You can lead a horse to water

You could teach me how to play LB but I would not be able to play in the NFL. When you show up to camp weighing less than u did last year when u were already too light kind of says Something

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by Buffalo Stro on Sep 9, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Re: Maybin

Not even the Jets thought he was worth keeping. Two teams cut him, including one that has taken on failed projects before (the Jets).

He is a bust. Let him go.

by maestro110584 on Sep 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean a mentor like Merriman? It seems to me Maybin’s problems were beyond the alck of a mentor.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybin’s tutor was Merriman, long before he was even a Bill.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Daryl Talley was in camp as well.

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by nickdaniels on Sep 9, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point on maybin. But I see it in a slightly different way, he is the oppisite of Jamarcus Russell. Russell ate hie way out of the league, Maybin Starved his way out of the league. You can’t coach a guys metabolism.

by cencalclassics on Sep 9, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approved

The only real negative was losing a one time playmaker who doesn’t fit the scheme. I think its a win-win on letting him go. But I can see how it upset fans.

Shun the non Billievers!

by Superduff on Sep 9, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

It seems to me...

that Buddy is taking very different approaches with the offense and defense.. it seems to me that this year and last he has heavily focused on bringing in a stronger defense (Merriman, Dareus, Barnett, Morrisson, A.Williams, Searcy, D.Edwards, etc.). Which makes sense since he already has a serviceable offense where he has only brought in a few mediocre players (Rinehart, Hairston, Chandler, Nelson, Thigpen). I dont mind it, but Id like a little more focus on the o-line ASAP!

by HeHateMe91 on Sep 9, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Brad Smith, Sam Young and Lee Smith as well.

by DJ O on Sep 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I dont like how he treats players he didnt personally bring in…. with the exception of K. Williams, Fitzy and Johnson.

by HeHateMe91 on Sep 9, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Why do you say that? Ask Parrish how he treats players, and I’m sure you would get a glowing response.

Shun the non Billievers!

by Superduff on Sep 9, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess that was of a Chan defense than buddy.

Shun the non Billievers!

by Superduff on Sep 9, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

but they’re the only ones who he didn’t bring in that can actually play (except for Fitz)

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um…Fred Jackson?

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, good point – he’s really the only other one, right? And they might even be pushing him out at this point.

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Wood, Andy Levitre, Roscoe Parrish, Jairus Byrd can all play

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by poz on Sep 9, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s talking about who has been mistreated. None of those guys have been.

I don’t think Fred Jackson has been mistreated either by the way. A few days where he wants to make sure everyone knows he is the number one back is pretty mild on the scale of dissensions/mistreatement.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 10, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the sense that Buddy wants players who want to be in Buffalo. If there is any doubt about commitment to this project of a team, if you’re not buying into their program, you will be let go.

This is what seems to have been the case with Schoebel, Lynch and Evans – they wanted out, and because they’ve been professionals (well maybe not Lynch), they were granted their wishes even though it meant the bills took a hit.

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by oompaloompa on Sep 9, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know that?

Schobel yes, he wanted out and retired but I never heard a single word about Lynch or Evans wanting out. Lynch loved being a Bill and the same could be said for Evans. Other than 1 off the field incident with Marshawn he really wasn’t that bad of a person I’m not sure why people hated this guy so much. He made a mistake and drove drunk (like nobody has ever done that) he did hit a woman but it was also late at night raining hard and she wasn’t even crossing in an intersection! The blame could just as easily be placed on her for running out into the middle of the street like a drunk idiot.

But I digress…..anyways back to the original point I never once heard of Evans or Lynch complaining about being a Bill even after they left. They could have taken the McGahee road and ripped Buffalo to shreads but instead both were professional about it and realized it was a business decision. Unless you can prove without a doubt that both had commitment isssues with this team or weren’t buying into the program I’d have to say you’re making some pretty big assumptions.

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can be professional about it and still want out. I think it’s pretty clear that Evans wanted out of Buffalo. He had sat on the bench with mediocre QB after mediocre QB throwing him the ball. There were some rumors, I remember, circulating after Lynch left that he, too, wanted out. I know rumors don’t mean anything, but it’s also not hard to imagine them both wanting to be somewhere else by the end.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, that both could have wanted out and I certainly would understand why, Evans like you said and perhaps Lynch’s desire to be a feature back. However to say that is the reason why they were let go is false becasue it cannot be proven true. As you said they were rumors that FANS created to justify the reason why they left, but neither the player nor the owner/GM came out and stated that was the reason why.

As far as letting Lynch go I think it was more just Nix and Gailey wanting to use their own guy (Spiller) instead of the last regime’s guy (Lynch). Lynch had more value than Jackson because he was younger so he was the one who was traded. Now we see almost the same situation happening again with Jackson. He’s upset that he hasn’t been getting as many looks or touches and they’re all going to Spiller. Nix and Gailey seem to prefer their guys and have no problem cutting ties with other players.

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the rumors were more from people in the Buffalo press…take that as you want, and I can’t really find anything to back that up besides my memory. Regardless, it would make sense that they wanted out.

I am afraid of what is happening with Jackson…he’d better be the featured back, with Spiller the change-of-pace back, because Jackson gets more from this OL than Spiller does right now. If Spiller starts to get into a rhythm where he starts picking up 6 or 7 yards a carry (and I am of course not saying the Jackson is capable of that…) then find, give him more touches. But until he starts to show that he can carry a load, then Jackson had better be treated like the starter. I really hope that Nix and Gailey (especially) realize that.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

on all parts. Especially the part about Freddie and CJ and it worries me as well.

"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes

by panekattack on Sep 10, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say that Lynch not showing up until mandatory camp could have been taken by CHIX as a lack of commitment

I still believe that CHIX made up there mind about Lynch very early in the proccess. It was not an oh, now that we have our guy and Freddie we can let him go. IMO they were already sure he was not part of the long term plan before the draft, and had decided that they could get max value for him during the early part of the season.

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by jbbillfan on Sep 9, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out Evans first press conference as a Raven. He is a class professional, but he betrays some less than enthused feelings about playing for Buffalo. And can you blame him? The last QB who was capable of making the most of his talents was JP. Also there were rumors since last year he wanted out.

Lynch didn’t show up to OTAs after the Nix and Gailey were hired. I recall he didn’t show up until very late. He was not happy with the Spiller pick. He was saying things about how Buffalo was not exactly friendly to him.

Don’t get me wrong – I loved both of these guys on our team and wish they stayed, but I don’t think they wanted to play for the Bills anymore. I don’t exactly blame them.

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by oompaloompa on Sep 10, 2011 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, maybe I wasn’t clear, but it is speculation. I get the sense the guys wanted out. I’m not saying they wanted out.

I also get the sense that this front office wants you committed, and if you’re not, they don’t necessarily want you around.

Its just guesses based on following this team. Nothing more nothing less.

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Opinions were like kittens
I was giving them away
-Modest Mouse

by oompaloompa on Sep 10, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

got your point now. I took your first comment as that it’s either get on board with this group or you’ll be gone. I certainly understand the speculation point and agree I could see why each would want out. Just it’s all speculation not facts. That’s where we got twisted up, all good here then.

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by panekattack on Sep 10, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

I’ve like most of what he’s done so far. The jury is still out on whether this OL can protect Fitz or not. However, the Evans trade still doesn’t sit well with me. If this offense is stagnant this year, it will be the fault of the WRs just as much as the OL, in my opinion. They’re just too young right now, and no one really stands out beyond Johnson. So I have to wait and see how the offense pans out before I approve.

The defense, however, I love.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

Show me wins, and better trades (i.e. more than a 4th for Lee Evans). also, a decent O-line.

by BillinNC on Sep 9, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

bad trade???

considering what other teams received for their top wrs, the bills did great. Ocho went to NE for what 5th rounder I think…. Moss to NE a couple years ago for 6th rounder…. getting a 4th for Evans is great!

by Las Vegas Bills Fan11 on Sep 9, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

Based on what the market has dictated in recent years, a 4th for Evans is fine by me.

by RedStickBillsFan on Sep 9, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what the market has dictated in recent years

Evans didn’t have to be traded.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with this, but that’s not the point of the post. BillinNC was complaining about the compensation, not the trade itself. I think that a 4th is about what the market would have dictated for a 30 year old receiver, regardless of who was trading. Also, NE got a steal with Moss…he was not worth what MN paid for him.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

See Afghan’s response below. I think he summed it up well. The point is, if the compensation was bad, the deal should not have been made.

All-in-all, if it was Evans who wanted out, I’m OK with that, especially because Evans didn’t go public with it.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. While I wished Evans was more of a direct statistical contributor on many game days, I still feel that no draft compensation would have been able to match his worth as a member of the Bills.

At this rate, they’ll have to wait (and cross their fingers) that this pick works out in a few years, doesn’t get injured, or somehow manages to get them a chute to move in the draft.

:Sigh:

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big difference

Moss and Ocho were problems. Oh, and NE got a 3rd for Moss. Also, remember you are comparing us to the Bengals on the Ocho trade, the same team that is getting nothing for Carson Palmer.

by BillinNC on Sep 9, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Evans was classy

That doesn’t mean that his agent wasn’t harping on Nix for a trade.

Starting the official Buffalo "Draft a Quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Sep 9, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bigger difference is that Moss and Ocho were considerably older than Evans and have a considerably shorter playing lifetime.

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by Calvert on Sep 9, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re also both better statistically.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

they also didnt play with Trent Edwards :)

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by poz on Sep 9, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the better stats… :)

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Had to vote 'disapprove'

With the state of the OL being what it is, especially the lack of depth.

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by ChipShot on Sep 9, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I see what you’re saying but most of us were jumping for joy when Marv signed Dockery, Walker, and that other guy. That didn’t work out too well, though. I’m willing to wait and see what happens on the line for a bit before I vote disapprove on Nix because he didn’t add much in FA on the O-line.

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

other guy = Fowler?
Boy was he awesome!

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah it wasn’t Fowler that year. It was Jason Whittings? Whittington? something like that, he was just a journeyman though. Fowler I have a bit of a soft-spot for being a former Terp, but unfortunately I must admit he was never any good.

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops I hit a soft-spot. Didn’t know he was a terp.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha no worries, I can admit that he’s terrible. I actually ran into him at a bar in College Park last year as a senior and had a bit of an awkward moment.
“Hey! you play for the Browns now right!? nice man!”

“Free agent…but thanks…”

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truly laughed out loud at that one…awkward is right.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whittle

Colin Brown...Pancreas Yellow...

by ChipShot on Sep 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Langston Walker worked out fine, in my opinion. They paid a lot for him and that was the pivot point for most fans on wanting him out.

He was led down a very dark alley with Jauron, making him a LT. It seems Nix wants to do the same with Hairston, where using a BIG man on that left side could very well backfire and hurt his best attributes.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hairston has been a LT all his life. And from his short time in preseason play, show he can handle it.

by DJ O on Sep 10, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

To add, generally a collegiate LT is moved to the right side because he is either, slow, can’t bend at the waist, or has t Rex arms. Hairston shows none of these.

by DJ O on Sep 10, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disapprove

for the one reason I’ve mentioned before. I think the “rebuild” could be/should be more unilateral. Much hinges on the OL which has received little to no attention to date (i.e. Bell is not the answer at LT). The entire offense, Fitz, Spiller, Johnson, will hit/miss on this one factor. On the "D’ side, Dareus fell into his lap. I could have made that pick. Jury out on Merriman, et al.

But, hope springs eternal. I am sitting at the table, knife, fork in hand prepared to dine on crow as soon as Buddy serves it up.
If/when he does…I will pay my compliments to the chef. For now, my meal tastes a lot like baloney.

Y'all- There's a "D" in rebuild, but no "O"- The gospel according to Buddy Nix 4:12

by fansince60 on Sep 9, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Disapprove also

I would add in Buddy’s favor is that he has made the team much bigger. But I’m not convinced he is a good judge of talent. 2010 draft class is looking every bit as bad as the rest of the decade, we’ll see who besides Dareus looks good from 2011.

If the team improves to 7-9, it only moves them back into the Donohoe/Levy range.

by Rick A on Sep 9, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the team improves to 7-9, it only moves them back into the Donohoe/Levy range.

So what would be enough improvement for you to approve of Nix’s team building? 10-6? 7-9 would indicate that there is improvement. Can you really ask for a lot more than that in year 2?

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

7-9 may not be indicative of the team’s overall progress – the schedule we’re playing is awful and 7-9 wouldn’t be a great accomplishment against it – there is little doubt in my mind that last year’s team would have a pretty good shot at 7-9 against this year’s schedule.

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I think the schedule is being over-hyped and won’t be that difficult, 7-9 would still show progress. Last year’s team couldn’t close out games they should have won. Just being able to win 2 or 3 more close games this year would show remarkable progress to me.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I agree with that – I can’t think of any games they “should have won” other than Pitt – they played well against Baltimore, but couldn’t stop them all day – they played awful against KC and neither team really deserved to win that… I think you’re talking about games they “could” have won… they did close out detroit in a game they almost gave away, and Miami, and they battled back hard against Cincy after falling behind early…

What I think would show some real progress is beating a few decent teams instead of bad team like last year… If they can somehow get wins against Philly or the Giants or the Pats or SD, then I think we might be making progress…

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were in a position to win against Baltimore, they should have taken it. They were in a position to win against KC, and should have won that as well. Whenever you are in a position to close out the game and don’t, it’s a missed opportunities. There were three times last year (those and Pitt) where they had a chance to end a game and failed to do so. I don’t care about the rest of the game, finishing close games is what this team has failed at over and over again for years. The Browns games, the NE game with the fumble, the Cowboys MNF game, week 1 last year, all of these winnable games that slip through their hands. Closing out close games will indicate a change in the overall attitude of the team, and be a huge improvement in my mind.

But I also agree that beating some better competition will also indicate progress. Also, doing well in the division, having a 10-6 record would certainly indicate progress. My expectation, though, is that these things won’t happen. With a roster as devoid of overall talent as I still think we are, progress should be measured in a variety of ways. Next year, year 3, it’ll be win or go home. But I Nix needs one more offseason to finish putting together his roster.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying – maybe I’m just nitpicking, but I really don’t view KC as a game they should have won – they played awful start to finish in that one – they definitely were in a position to win it, I’m not saying they weren’t, but it’s not like they choked away some big lead or played great and then fell short (like Dallas on MNF and NE – those are definitely games they should have won)

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I really just want them to start to close out close games. I think a couple of Jauron’s teams would have finished with winning records if they could just win the close games they kept throwing away.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also agree that i’m not certain he’s a good judge of talent. People will say “Chargers” this or “Chargers” that, but how many years has that team NOT lived up to expectations? They may be fantasy studs, but they’re scary only to PC opponents. Come playoff time, they’re either not there or they’re spending nearly every game in the stink they can’t separate from as a team.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agree – I feel like I’m the only one who thinks this, but I think Rivers is overrated and can’t get it done when it counts

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a stat machine, that’s for sure. But he’s not a big-time winner – yet.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll second that opinion.

by WhatGoesAround on Sep 9, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Every Bit as Bad?

Spiller
Troup
Carrington
Moats
Batten

This is a bad draft? What do you consider to be a good one?

by mikeo76 on Sep 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

to me, a good draft produces more than role/rotational (i.e NOT starters) players.

Not a starter in that bunch.

by Brian in Shortsville on Sep 9, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were Rookies Last Year

If none of them are starters/major contributors by the end of THIS season I will agree with you.

by mikeo76 on Sep 9, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

How are those players considered a good draft?

Which one of them is a starter?

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

See

just ask the axis comment below

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

 You do not get starters in the first year with every draft pick. Are we really passing judgement when we all know you.can not accuratly judge a draft until 3 years after it has occured.

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by matthew62 on Sep 9, 2011 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

unless your team is loaded, you definitely should get one or two – if these guys can’t come in and beat out a bunch of vets who posted a terrible record, it’s not too encouraging… That’s not to say the book is closed on them, but it’s not really looking too good…

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd

I was just about to write something similiar and then I seen your response. Agree completely.

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by unilateral? He seems to act on his own. He also seems focused on a position group (defense). Do you just mean the rebuild should be focused on the o-line?

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by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unilateral as in both sides of the ball. As your comment points out, he’s been focused on the defense.

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by fansince60 on Sep 9, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebuilds take twice as long if your as broken as the bills are and build up both at.same time. Not enough draft picks or fa to.do that quick enough.

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by matthew62 on Sep 9, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True, but...
Dareus fell into his lap. I could have made that pick.

I could have to. But in years past, the Bills brain trust has screwed up no-brainer picks.

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by ChipShot on Sep 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

thats not a bad counterpoint Chip

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by poz on Sep 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Poz

and recommend ChipShot’s post.

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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Sep 9, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Nix, Brian- I saw on twitter that he was on Fan590 this morning. Do you know of any way to listen to it now by any chance?

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Link.

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by Brian Galliford on Sep 9, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I appreciate it.

by billsnterps on Sep 9, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approved

Even though I disagree with the Evans trade I give a thumbs up. I don’t feel the team is rudderless anymore, the accountability and organization has improved tremendously. Yes the O-line still needs to continue to be improved on but so does half the teams in the NFL…

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by Goose22 on Sep 9, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not a poll on perfect

I don’t have to approve of everything to like the general direction of the team we are building. He seems to say the right things about how to build a team and I respect that, its not necessarily what people want to hear. I think he has some football principles he is sticking to, and that to seems like a big benefit. He is overturning and elevating the football staff in a way that I think is good for the long-run of the organization. Front office stability is key and its been a disaster there since Donahoe left. So I vote approve until I think he’s doing things organizationally that set us back. It’s less to me about “I would ahve taken this guy” or “I still don’t like this position group”. It’s more just a general feeling of competence and vision and the idea that in the long-run we are a better franchise for what he is contributing. Hopefully it translates to wins sooner rather than later.

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by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

agreed

He hasn’t been perfect but you can’t expect him to fix every problem we have yet. It’s a process and right now the team is heading in the right direction.
I think resigning Poz was a uphill battle to start with but got acceptable replacements for cheaper.
The Evans trade because he is a hometown favorite we think he is made of gold, but I don’t think he was worth that much more.
I do want to see if Hariston and Young have any potential before judging the future of the OL.

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by ChewyFL on Sep 9, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Not a poll on perfect

This exactly. Nobody his going to like every trade, acquisition, cut but I feel he is laying a strong foundation to build on. Our D was awful last season. The O was serviceable but was almost always playing catch up which I feel forced us to play overly aggressive. Up grades to the Offense will come in time.

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by Buffalo Stro on Sep 9, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I approve for the most part of what Nix is trying to do. I also think that Buffalo has been very reluctant to take risks over the last several years other than T.O. – there were a lot of guys out there who may come with some baggage (injuries, off the field stuff, etc.) that if Buffalo were willing to take some chances on, might hit a few home runs.

I think that the organization’s approach as a whole has been too conservative. That said, we do have a plan that I think will take some time to be successful and we seem to be executing the plan.

As a side note, last night’s game was excellent and just goes to show how mediocre Fitz is and how far the Bills have to climb to be among the top teams in the league.

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I also think that Buffalo has been very reluctant to take risks over the last several years other than T.O.

That’s what they’re doing with Merriman.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Barnett. And leaving Bell at LT. And running with Fitz. And letting Whitner and Poz walk. And trying to re-sign Stevie. And trading Evans, etc.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

status quo is not taking a risk to improve your team, it’s idiocy – why on earth would you have a team that went 4-12 remain the same at the most critical positions? Are those risks? I guess – but those aren’t the calculated risks I’m talking about…

I’m talking about going after guys like Vick or drafting Mallett or throwing the bank at Clabo… There are a lot of scenarios where I feel that the Bills lacked any gumption in order to better their team… They sit back, move a few players for draft picks that could but likely won’t amount to much in the NFL and have the gall to tell us that they truly believe this team can compete for a super bowl.

And please please please don’t tell me you actually think letting Whitner and Poz walk is a risk – those guys are average non-impact players at best.

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again…Merriman.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

again, one example and I’m glad they did it – there have been other instances to improve this roster that they passed on (and it sounds like Buddy may be a big reason why, talking Ralph out of going after certain guys)

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And please please please don’t tell me you actually think letting Whitner and Poz walk is a risk

Anytime you let guys whose play is consistent, who has been a staple of the defense for years, and whose absence will disrupt the locker room, it’s taking a risk. You’re risking that the guys stepping in will be able to reproduce what you’ve lost. Nix has taken plenty of risks, I don’t agree that you can just qualify “risks” as overpaying for FAs or trading for some unproven commodity.

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by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s a bigger risk to keep guys who contribute to being one of the worst defenses in the history of this franchise – Whitner in particular was part of the problem and I’m happy to see him walk

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I am not missing him. But Buddy’s turned over a lot of the roster in two years, that in and of itself is a bit of a risk.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Sep 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is where I don't understand some people

When we had Levy and Donahue as our GM people cried and whined becuase they felt we didn’t have enough roster movement and that our team stayed the same for too long. Now Buddy comes in and players are flying off the team and we are getting draft compensation back, questionable cuts are being made people are freaking out because hes actually quite active in roster transactions.

Buddy has failed to do 1 Thing since being our Gm and that is go out and gets us a Bonafide star on our OL, and believe me that is not an easy thing to do.

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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 9, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

absolutely. excellent Olineman and stud Qbs are not all that easy to come by. the fanbase kicks and screams about his failure to make our OL look like the Jets after one season, but doing so really isnt very straightforward…

i love the things buddy is doing, but he gets a ‘not sure’ until i see beyond a reasonable doubt that the guys hes been drafting can or cant play in the NFL. hasnt happened one way or the other yet

by boomsauce on Sep 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’re not always easy to come by, but they have to go all-in at some point. I hope.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Failed at 1 thing?

When he took over 2 years ago our team’s biggest needs were OL (especially LT), QB, and LB (especially OLB). So far in taking over as GM he has failed to address the O line IMO dumpster diving and late round picks just don’t cut it.

Has yet to get his franchise QB: I can’t say I blame him just yet but if he doesn’t take a QB in the 1st round next year then I will say he has completely failed in addressing this position, Fitz is not the future he’s a placeholder until the real deal comes along.

As far as OLB goes I think we still have a huge need there. If Merriman goes down then our OLB position looks horrendous. We need passrushers out there and he hasn’t really brought any in.

So I’ll say he has failed at 1, but I’m still indifferent about the other 2. I’m not going to give him a free pass on those 2 especially considering he took a RB in the 1st round when we already had 2 starters on the roster. As a matter a fact his entire 1st draft looks questionable at this point considering our team lacked any playmakers or talent and none of these young guys could beat out vets and contribute as a starter.

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We had a bottom three run defense before he showed up. The problem was way more severe than linebacker or OLB. It was basically ever position in the front 7 except Williams. The secondary was overrated (primarily because it didn’t make sense to throw against us when you could run the ball and hold a lead). We basically have a whole new unit there.

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by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The year before we had the 2nd most interceptions in the league as a team?

Teams did try to throw but couldn’t. I think you’re mixing up this past year and the year before. We had a problem with pass rush (mainly due to no OLB rush). Both Kelsay and Schobel were DE’s, Stroud and Williams were the DT’s Poz was the MLB. Our OLB’s were bad and had been a problem ever since Spikes was let go. Crowell you could argue was okay when healthy but he was hardly ever healthy and when he was he never provided much as a pass rusher. Our main problem was pass rush especially from the OLB position. The rest was average-above average on their best day.

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by panekattack on Sep 9, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, not confused

in 2009 we allowed 4.7 yards per carry (2nd worst, tied with KC) and 2500 yards (3rd worst). Thats 156 rushing yards per game. Pretty terrible. Teams ran on us the second most 535 times. When teams tilt their playcalling to runs, your secondary gives up fewer yards (but you don’t necessarily win games that way).

Crowell was gone. Mitchell and Ellison were probably the OLBs who got the most PT. As to the names of the players, don’t let them fool you, we overrated that defense. 3rd worst rushing D in the league in 2009.

We can debate the secondary, but to me the year was an outlier, and it benefitted from the poor play of the front seven against the run. MAybe we cheated against the pass. But we couldn’t stop the run.

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by greysquirrel on Sep 10, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh by no means am I saying that defense was good

There certainly were a lot of holes to fill and I would agree it was an outlier as well. I just didn’t think our front 7 was the big problem more the LB play. Poz was still an injury risk, Mitchell was put on IR after getting injured early on and Ellison got a lot of PT. Our big problem was the pass rush though in my opinion especially from the OLB position and run D from the OLB position. My original point was that 1 of the 3 biggest holes Nix has had since taking over is OLB and he still has yet to really adress that. Like I said if Merriman goes down then our OLB position situation looks horrible. Hopefully he stays healthy.

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by panekattack on Sep 10, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Sure

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that the team is grooming rookie fourth-round pick Chris Hairston as the left tackle of the future

Confused by the message here. I didn’t hear Buddy say that we drafted this kid to be our LT of the future. You could assume this but seems very premature. An assumption more than a reality before fact. I did hear Buddy say they really like this kid and one of the reasons for bringing in the Young kid was because lack of depth at the tackle position and it would be easier for Hairston to learn one position than to expect him to learn and prepare to play both Left and Right tackle. Also, this could lead many to think that Chris could be the first one in if a starter falters but IMO the team would lean at using LeVetrie if that failing was to come on the left side. I will say this, for Buddy to state that Sam Young was brought in to add depth at the tackle position and allows Chris Hairston to focus on the left side with Sam on the right side does credit Chris Hairston abilities for an organization to devote some attention directly on his behalf. It will be interesting what Chris Brown can offer on his progress going forward and is exactly the motivation and kick in the butt that D. Bell needs to really push himself this season. I voted not sure for Buddy, but I love this move, it shows committment to Bell with a taste of don’t let me down.

Drafted Players: With the demise and lack of’s from the past, I am cautiously waiting for contribution from these youngsters to step up and contribute. I believe Buddy said that by mid season you would expect some level of contribution from your draft class. I did expect more from Spiller, Troup and Carrington last year and have the same expectation from Dareus, Williams and Sheppard this year.

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by VanScottM on Sep 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

There is no doubt in my mind about Dareus

But when you have a Top 5 pick, that kid better produce.

It more about the 2nd and 3rds and 4ths for me. We let Ryan Mallet go twice and he has looked real good in New England.

We took Williams and Shep ahead of Mallet they have to prove their worth. Williams for me will really determine this draft class. With a Top 3 pick that kid whoever he is better come in a play and play at a very high level, but with the 2nd pick in the 2nd round it’s like having a late 1st rounder and everyone seems to be high on Williams but he hasn’t shown me yet and he needs to step up because we are a llittle bit older at CB and we can not afford to waste any more picks on DB’s.

Buddy’s late round picks have proven to be above par but again for me its that 2nd round pick We have not seen alot from Troup or Williams. We need to get production formn those guys!

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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 9, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think teams were scared of Mallet’s non-football issues.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the ability of Mallet to actually play the game well in front of a good o-line was ever in that much doubt

He’d pretty clearly lack that o-line here, and there’s the fact that he’s got quite a bit of other baggage as well that likely won’t rear it’s ugly head during his first preseason.

by Stephen Schmidt on Sep 9, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s tie limelight that coaches are nervous of.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disapprove with him....

My opinion is strictly because of on the field results we went 4-12 last year and I don’t see us being better then 6-10 this year those are losing records so if we are talking about production which is the only thing that matters in the real world he has failed…one other thing in this day and age in the NFL teams don’t get 5 years to rebuild

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 9, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Why do I feel this post is skewed in such a way to highlight things in a favorable light for Nix?

It seems the stuff that hasn’t been done, or done in a way that hasn’t helped this team have not been highlighted here. (Aside from the Evans trade.)

Strongly disapprove of Nix’s moves recently. Strongly.

Their 4th-round pick is the “left tackle of the future”?! Not great news, if you ask me.

Congratulations to him for signing their obvious best player to a contract extension. It shouldn’t be considered a feat, it should have been considered automatic.

But trading Evans? Then only getting a 4th for him that may or may not pan out and who likely won’t ever be as important to the team as Lee Evans has been or would have been going forward?

Right now, the only things I know about Nix are what he values in building a team: Cutting salary not named Kelsay, talking Ralph Wilson out of spending salary, and building cornerstone players out of lower-round draft picks.

At this point, I don’t even expect much more from him. It is what it is, and he’s shown his hand to be less about honesty and more about pandering to those he speaks to at any given time.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And this may seem a bit unfair to say the post is skewed to highlight things favorably for Nix, after re-reading Brian’s OP.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

One ?

When, (Other then the Lee Trade Rumours) Has buddy been dishonest in what he has said to the media?

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by PaullyPforPrez on Sep 9, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head…Lynch trade last year.

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by thefourwinds on Sep 9, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won’t clutter the thread but there are numerous instances of it.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Show me one honest gm in the nfl. There is not one because they dont want everyone to know what they are.doing. Plane and simple keep the secrets to yourself. All.gms talk.all year like its draft season. about 10% of.what you hear us true.

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by matthew62 on Sep 9, 2011 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well I get that. I guess I should state that i’m fully aware that no team’s GM will give their trade secrets away. For me with Nix, it’s that he talks A LOT to the media and fills peoples’ heads with ideas and thoughts that he’s going to do something then do either nothing or the complete opposite of what he said.

I’m more interested in the way he talks these days than I am in what he’s saying.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s shown his hand to be less about honesty and more about pandering to those he speaks to at any given time.

I don’t see this, he seems to say things that might be unpopular but they are what he thinks. But as a closing argument to disapproval. Who cares if your GM is doing some PR? They all do it. In my opinion Nix less than others. They aren’t paid to be honest, they are paid to run an organization, sometimes that means obfuscating their thoughts and the truth.

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by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

AFT reply fail

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by greysquirrel on Sep 9, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I follow you. I just don’t like nor trust the guy with my support right now.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approved (but a qualified approval)

I voted approve but only because I am assuming he’s looked at available offensive linemen and, for whatever reason, decided that they weren’t worth the cost at the time. OL in the draft weren’t rated high enough at the time the Bills were picking, or FA OL were asking too much money or just using Buffalo as a bargaining chip with the teams they really wanted to sign with.

I’m giving Nix the benefit of the doubt here because it seems like he’s done a solid job with all the other positions. I’m assuming there are details behind the OL depth that we simply don’t know about.

Also, I would have liked to see more return for Evans but I also am assuming Evans asked to leave and asked for a specific team and the Bills granted that wish as a thank you for his years of work.

But we all know what “assume” really stands for so we’ll see how it all turns out. Maybe I’m just one of those Bills fans that is eternally optimistic and I’m setting myself up for another “rebuilding program” to start in a two or three seasons.

by Ehran on Sep 9, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

The Green Bay Packers Took 6 Years to Rebuild

It took the packers 6 years to rebuild to last year’s Superbowl. They were criticized by many of the same complaints we’re reading here. The Packer fans hated drafting Rogers. they thought it was a waste because the team still had a healthy Favre.

They did it the same way Nix is doing it now, thru the draft, UFA’s, low cost free agents. They avoided high-priced, big name free agents.

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly right. We’re bringing in FA as we need them but not over-the-top expenditures. Building through the draft will also help develop commaraderie amongst the players.

On a side note, I’m curious if Nix would pull a Favre/Rodgers situation. Say Fitzy does well and we extend him before the draft, what do we do if Landry Jones/Nick Foley/Kellen Moore all look good and fall to us in the draft. Do we draft one of them and sit them for a few years a la Rodgers?

by NordicBillsfan on Sep 9, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your side note

I hope so, too many talented QB’s are rushed into playing. Would Rogers be the same QB if he was in Alex Smith’s situation?

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by nickdaniels on Sep 9, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is laughable.....

To have a Farve/Rodgers situation you have to have a quarterback of Farves caliber, no matter how great Fitzpatrick plays this year we have to keep trying to acquire a franchise quarterback. People love fitzpatrick around here I just don’t get it? We were 4-12 with him stop trying to compare him to quartetbacks like Farve or any franchise qb his a backup on par with the likes of Derek Anderson not the Brett Farves of the world

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 9, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You missed the Whole point of the Post

It wasn’t about Fitz at all. It was about the Packers’ GM building his team slowly, methodically thru the draft and UFA’s.

You also must have missed the controversy in Green Bay when they traded Favre so Rogers could start.

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

u miss my point...

U have to have a established qb to have your GM build methodically in a simulare way as GB….and read it again his side note was iabout Fitz and what would Nix do if he performed well I just want to make sure he know that no matte ow well he performs it could never be a favre/Rodgers situation beacuse Favre was established for don 10 or more years before they decide to draft his future replacement we don’t have that here with Fitz his just a band aid while we keep looking for a real franchise qb not some qb who has never lead a team to a winning record let alone a super bowl win alas Brett Farve

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 9, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You missed my point with your rush to overreact

I never said any of the QBs I listed were on the talent level of Favre/Rodgers.

The side-point I was making was a query into whether or not Nix would draft a QB prospect in the 1st (should one they like fall to us), if we already have an established QB on our roster that isn’t in need of quick replacement. Said established QB would fill the role of Favre in this analogy (not necessarily in an exact or near talent perspective – if anyone is too anal that they still can’t stand their usage in this analogy, please inform me on a better QBold to QBnew pairing I should have used that closes the talent gap in the analogy)

Now, you (the general reader) may say Fitzy isn’t starter worthy and shouldn’t be considered the starter for the near future (beyond this year) – whatever – I’m not arguing that he is or isn’t. That is why in the original post I said:


Say Fitzy does well and we extend him before the draft
The “say Fitzy” portion I feel clearly demonstrated the hypothetical nature of the post. In this hypothetical situation, if Fitzy was extended then it clearly indicates the FO believes he will be successful as a starter to one degree or another, and is worth holding onto.

Now, assuming the previous statements, not arguing their probability, would Nix pull a Favre/Rodgers situation and draft a replacement for a QB that isn’t in a necessarily quick manner needing to be replaced (as Fitzy is currently younger than Favre when said replacement was drafted). To expand: does anyone think Nix would find more value in the long term potential stability of drafing said replacment QB over the short term value of drafting a better Rush OLB or offensive lineman?

That is the side-point I made.

by NordicBillsfan on Sep 9, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

All that matters in today’s NFL is the QB. Look at the Colts. Before his latest surgery, Peyton’s Colts were SB contenders. Now? Now they’ll likely finish near the Bills.

And oh yeah – that illustrious GM of theirs (man was he good), he may be able to stare Luck in the face and further secure his legacy by having the unfortunate loss of Manning this year catapult them into next year’s QB draft race.

The rich get richer.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You nailed the reaction of the Packer Fans...

The Packer fans felt drafting Rogers was a wasted first round pick when Favre was still basically in his prime and the team had other pressing needs. Besides, Rogers was passed over by 21 or 22 teams before the Packers picked.

If the Bills, including Fitz, do well this year, does the team reach for a QB in the 1st or 2nd round?

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they would be foolish not to – It should be one of the blue chippers in the 1st round or an elite LT if a QB is not available (I’m assuming they’ll be in a position to select one of these guys)

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And How Much...

of that 4-12 record falls at the feet of the worst defense in the league?

To put that record on Fitz is preposterous!

by mikeo76 on Sep 9, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manning, Brady, Rodgers…they win most of those games.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in Their First Year as starting QB...

with an OL and defense as bad as Buffalo’s.

One man teams only win in golf and tennis.

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also didn’t take those guys 6 or 7 years to get their crack at starting either – Fitz is not the answer and the Bills will not be a legit contender until they have a blue chip QB behind center

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kurt Warner Bagged Groceries During His Early Pro Career...

plus he wasn’t even drafted..not saying Fitz is Warner..just saying you guys need to get off this “Fitz is not the answer” garbage.

You can’t know what the future holds for him. Let it play out.

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Brady go to and win the Super Bowl the year he became a starter?

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Passed for 145 yards in the Game

He was soooo good, he beat the “Greatest Show on Turf” all by himself, with just 145 passing yards.

He even sent the Pats defense home at halftime.

by swampdog #1 on Sep 9, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didn’t exactly bottom out though. They’ve been good since they fleeced Atlanta for Favre.

In 2005 they were 4-12
in 2006 they were 8-8
in 2007 they were 13-3
in 2008 they were 6-10
in 2009 they were 11-5

If the Bills go 8-8 this season (HAH!) then maybe we can begin to look at the similarites, but they have not drafted a 1st-round franchise-building QB. They have one who’s got mileage on his cleats and is just now getting a shot as a starter. Rodgers came in as a starter after 3 years on the bench. He’s never looked back. Fitzy doesn’t have that luxury, and as such, I think he won’t pan out long-term.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But they addressed the most important position in the game – they went from one HOF’er to probably another one and didn’t leave a gap – we have gone from one HOF’er (retired in 1996) to a bunch of re-treads and guys who probably wouldn’t start anywhere else in the league…

by JustAskTheAxis on Sep 9, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Packers

had Brett Favre competing in playoff games before handing off the reigns to Rodgers. What six year rebuild??

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by poz on Sep 9, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 9, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Approve

Liked:
Meatball extension
Morrison signing
Continuing talks to extend Stevie and Roscoe

Disliked:
Only a 4th for Evans, really?

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by dnvrBillsfan on Sep 9, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

Morrison (an upgrade) wasn’t signed until Torbor was injured. Not a fan of the “other team’s o-line trash is our treasure” way of building an o-line. Our o-line has been bad for a few years now. Two tackles drafted and a few waiver wire pick ups are not cutting it thus far.

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by nickdaniels on Sep 9, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

nix approval poll

for the most part,i agree with what he’s done. the disagreement comes from cutting corto and roosevelt. he’s brought in some unknowns??? will they pan out? only time and playing will answer that question.

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by charles t on Sep 9, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Approved. He said he was going to stack good player on top of good player. The depth is so much better than what we have had in the past – LB’s, WR’s, interior OL, DL, CB’s. The stud LT and perhaps QB are coming. If you have a strong defense, it’s much easier putting in a young QB into action (ie) Ravens and Jets. I like what he is doing. He also has a much better staff. Whaley is doing a good job identifying young players with potential on the waiver list. Hopefully the strength and conditioning coaches will help keep players off the IR. I like Nix/Gailey so much more than Levy/Jauron.

by jhloje on Sep 9, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree

He stacks players on top of players, I wouldn’t go far to say good on good….What’s great about our WR depth, other than we have alot of them? We have horrible O-line depth, and minimal CB depth.

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st time I voted disapprove

I was on board through the draft (which I liked) but when FA started my confidence went down, like water down a drain. I get the building through the draft ideology but when the contracts start running out on these drafted and undrafted players are the Bills going to pay the going rate to retain them?

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by blknites on Sep 9, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Approved.

Lee wanted to leave, we got fair market value for him. The same value other teams have got for #1 wr’s, According to most people on this site, Lee is not a true number 1. So with that in mind I think they did well to get #1 WR compensation for a number 2 WR that(according to some rumblers)can only run one route, and Lee wanted out.

Maybin is a non-issue for me.

Signed a better player(Morrison) to replace Torbor…great move.

Great move with Meatball also, it’s fine if Nix dosen’t get credit for that, but that dosen’t mean that the agrument makes sense. Keeping meatball and adding Dareus, hey sorry, but you don’t get credit for that Mr. GM, is just moronic, I mean no offense, that is just how I feel about that point of veiw.

Picking up Lee Smith is a good move, basically adding another pick to your draft class for nothing will always be a good move.

On a side note There was a conversation on another thread the other day, and some comments in this thread back up part of said discussion, this front office is damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. They take possibly the best, and most NFL ready player in Dareus, and don’t get credit. They shore up the defense in 2 years, but the Oline is terrible so who cares. 1 year into a rebuild and A defense that might be amazeing, I for one am exstatic. They said they would fix the run defense first and they just may have done it, in only 1 year. Anyways, I am also excited to see what happens when next years draft rolls around and they don’t have to fill 12 holes on the defense, but thats too soon to talk about.

by cencalclassics on Sep 9, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Lee wanted to leave? The man who signed an extension, was firmly number 1, who loved playing with Fitz and not once complained about the team….where are you getting this inside information?
Market value for a number 1 receiver isn’t 4th round and its not about whether another team thinks he is true number 1…he WAS our number 1 and could become one again
Credit the GM for picking a good player at #3 in the draft and keeping a guy in Buffalo that wanted to stay in Buffalo?
Lastly, what have they shored up with this defense, it hasn’t done anything yet!

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

There has been discussion about his possibly wanting out.

In the year two thousaaaaaaand.
In the year two thousAAAAAAND!

by TheAfghanTwilight on Sep 9, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how to link articles so maybe I shouldn’t have said anything. But The guy that runs the Bills official website said he had it on good authority that Lee wanted out, so it’s not really inside information. SO if I’m wrong then Chris Brown is a liar. What is market value for a 30 year old WR with so so numbers going on 3 years, let me know bro.

Yes credit the GM, you blame him for stuff you don’t like, so you have to give him credit for stuff you do like right ? Or is that not right ? And that is my point, that train of thaught has not logic.

You are right, the defense hasn’t proved it yet, but loooking at the roster and the potential somewhat proves it to me. I will concede that point to you based on the defense not getting better on the feild in real games yet.

by cencalclassics on Sep 9, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Just copy and paste a link

by monk43085 on Sep 9, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

“Show me the baby”…Im still waiting Buddy

by MarkyMarkO on Sep 9, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

right now the babies looking like its going to be still born

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by Moe_frm_B_ on Sep 9, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

Lee Evans trade, failed to address offensive line problems

by billsfan4life on Sep 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

I’ve been disapproving since he drafted Spiller then Troup over Cody (at the time it seemed like a terrible move). In his time here he has yet to add a difference maker. This teams best players are all holdovers from the previous regime, Johnson, Williams, Byrd, wood, levitre, Jackson, Fitz. Until someone Nix brings in makes an impact I’ll disapprove.

Oh and so far last years draft is looking pretty dismal. Who from last years draft looks like they have a chance to start? Moats looked good but he’s buried at MLB, Spiller couldn’t take the job from Jackson and the others look like backups.

Oh and we still have issues at the O Line despite every fan of the team screaming for some an upgrade.

by BillsofVA on Sep 9, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted approve but I certainly disapprove on Nix getting pushed around by Gailey a little bit. I feel that Nix a) wouldn’t have brought Thigpen in and b) would have cut him were it not for Gailey. I think Brown is a better QB and has shown more and Gailey is the only reason he’s here. I don’t feel that makes our team better – I think developing the more talented player in a secondary role is more important at this point.

Other than that I cannot argue at all with his drafts unless a great QB comes out in which he could have selected at draft time. His focus on defense is how you win in the NFL – i’m convinced of that plus a QB. We make football far more difficult than it needs to be.

by J2 on Sep 9, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Disapprove

Not all that impressed…hopefully this season will prove me wrong

by Dingus Day on Sep 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

approve

Lots of good coments, always enjoy reading them all!!

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by jbbillfan on Sep 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Approve: 2nd year of a 4-5 year rebuild

A lot of people seem to forget that they screamed about the Jauron regime favoring a “lighter, faster quicker” team because the Bills were getting their heads beat in by the “bigger, stronger, just as fast” teams in the AFC East and wanted the Bills to change. Well, change like that, with a team as bad as Jauron’s team was, means overturning the entire roster and essentially starting over. That also means that the franchise is in for a 4-5 year total rebuilding program.

Nix (and don’t forget about Whaley!) was brought in to oversee that complete overhaul. He said that he was going to build the team through the draft, not free agency—because that has been proven to be the most successful way to rebuild a franchise—which means that he was going to try to assemble a core of young players (with a few select vets sprinkled in) to move forward with so that, at the end of the process (which would take 4-5 years) the team would have that core of young veterans ready to seriously compete at that point. Having heard this from Nix, anyone who thought (or still thinks) that he would sign an older, expensive free agent to play a key role in the end product or that, beyond the need to keep the fans interested from a PR standpoint, he would care that much how many games the team would win in Year 1, 2 or 3 of this process is deluding himself. Nix has a job to do and he’s sticking to it.

Judging Nix from this perspective, I think that Nix has done a pretty reasonable job so far.

Kelsay, a lockerroom leader, was re-signed to offer the kind of lockerroom leadership that Chix want (there a lockerroom leaders that bring leadership that some teams don’t want) as they jettisoned many of the team’s veterans from the Jauron era. You can already see that they are trying to prime a replacement for Kelsay as soon as new leaders emerge from those that they have assembled—and it’s entirely possible that Kelsay won’t see the end of his contract.

Sure they liked Poz (what did you expect them to say about one of their most popular players?), but they weren’t going to overpay or give too many years for a guy whose replacement (Sheppard) they had already drafted and who wasn’t that good in a 3-4 defense. Poz himself said that being able to play in a 4-3 was a major consideration for him in moving from the Bills to the Jags. Nix did a great job of replacing Poz with a better veteran ILB on a shorter contract to hold down the spot until Sheppard is ready to take over as the starter. It’s no mistake that Nix drafted two ILBs—one suited to one spot and the other suited to fill the other—and Moats has been moved to ILB: they are looking at developing these three young guys to take over as their ILB rotation from the three vets they now have temporarily holding down those spots (that’s why they didn’t sign Morrison until Torbor got hurt—Torbor was just supposed to be a “placeholder” at the position for another year or so).

Nix understands that a good defense can keep a team in games, even if the offense is horrible, so he made that his first priority. He also knows that there have been a lot of key players on championship teams that came from smaller schools and took a little time to develop in the NFL (Haley, Harrison, etc., etc.). With only a couple of exceptions (Spiller being the most notable), his drafts and have been focused primarily on adding defensive talent to the team. Has he added a young, premiere pass-rusher in the draft? No. But he had to fix the interior and the run defense first!. Still, with the veteran free agents that he has added, the Bills front 7 has been entirely transformed from the Jauron era into what could be a capable 3-4 defense, with a lot of young, still-developing talent. If Merriman and Barnett can stay healthy enough (I know it’s a big question until they prove they can) to play as much as the average NFL OLB and ILB (ie, maybe miss only a game or two), the Bills defense could be competitive even before the rebuilding job is complete.

That’s not a bad day’s work from a GM rebuilding a team from scratch. We’ll see how well the players Nix has assembled perform (and how the young ones develop) over the course of the season, But, in terms of transforming the defense from what it was under Jauron into what it is now, Nix appears to have done a solid job within the context of the way that he said he was going to build the team. Solid, not great—but what should be reasonably expected from him to this point.

There are a lot of complaints that Nix hasn’t addressed the offensive line. Contrary to that popular opinion, that isn’t really true. Given the fact that he has been concentrating on upgrading the defense first, Nix has added talent to the Bills offensive line since his arrival—just not in the way that a lot of fans would want him to.

When Nix arrived, the Bills had two solid young offensive linemen: Wood and Levitre; an overmatched veteran interior lineman: Hangartner (who could never hold his own against the bigger NTs in the AFC East); and a low-round, developmental project at LT with talent, but needing time to show if he would belong: Bell. That’s really it. Since then, he has added two former 3rd round picks in Urbik and Rinehart (these guys were highly thought of coming out of college), a fourth round pick in Harrison, a sixth round pick (who was also highly thought of in college, in Young, and a young veteran with two year’s starting experience in Pears. There have been so many changes, in fact, that the starting five has barely had any time to play together. And, it’s a young group that is still developing—offensive linemen tend to take longer to develop in the NFL. Is it a good group? Only time will tell. But, considering that Nix decided that the defense needed to be addressed first, it’s a bigger, potentially more physical and more talented group than what he inherited from the Jauron regime. Is it good enough? Probably not…yet.

While Nix has been able to strengthen the interior of the offensive line and add three players who can potentially fill the RT spot, the weakness of the offensive line is the critical LT spot. D. Bell has talent and has developed some, but hasn’t shown the consistency needed from this position. Nix and Gailley know this and Bell has been put on notice that he needs to step up this year or else. But, given the potential that Bell had show prior to his injury (and you now have two different coaching staffs saying that he has that potential), Nix wasn’t going to pass up on the most explosive offensive player in his first draft (Spiller) and certainly wasn’t going to take an offensive tackle early on in his second (with the exception of the now injured Tyron Smith, there is no OT from the first or second round of this past draft who will be starting in the NFL on opening day). While Nix and Gailley are hoping to get through this season with Harrison and Levitre backing up Bell, if Bell doesn’t step up this season and perform up to his potential, he will be gone and the Bills will likely try to take a LT in the second round of the draft (or go for an elite LT in the first round and hope their QB falls to them in the second). With a 1st rounder, a 2nd rounder, a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder potentially manning the offensive line, LT is the only position on the offensive line remaining to be addressed—if these young offensive linemen play up to their potential. That’s not bad when you’re in the second year of a four year total rebuild.

A lot of criticism has been leveled at Nix for trading Lee Evans and only getting a 4th rounder for him. Let’s face it, Lee Evans is too classy a man to have gone public if he wanted out of Buffalo and you weren’t going to see the kind of antics from him that Willis McGahee pulled. Still, there have been hints in what Gailley, Nix and Evans have said that indicate that there was more than meets the eye behind this trade. If so, getting a 4th round pick for Evans could be seen as a stroke of genius. Given the fact that Evans is now on the downside of 30 (which can be a problem for a speed receiver) and his declining production, a fourth rounder was about as much as the Bills could expect to get for him considering the wide receiver market.

Could the Bills afford to lose Evans at this point? While Evans would undoubtedly have been a help this season, by the time the Bills get and develop a franchise QB, which will take two more years at least, it’s doubtful that Evans would able to take advantage of that—he will be 32/33 at that point (unlike Ochocinco and TO, Evans isn’t a possession receiver, his game is in his speed). And, the Bills already have a young WR in Easley who is just as fast as Evans and needs playing time to develop. Jones may not be quite as fast as Evans, but he’s no slouch, either, and he, like Easley, needs to play as well. If the Bills are going to have a top-flight young receiving corps in place when they finally get a potential franchise QB and he’s ready to play, these young WRs need to show whether they can do the job now and be ready at that point. Could giving them that chance cost the Bills a game or two this season? Yes. But, the rebuilding that Nix is doing isn’t about winning a couple of games this season—it’s about building a team that can contend for a few years in the near future.

And, look at the job that Nix has done in assembling a young, talented receiving corps with the potential to be what the team needs to become a contender. Yes, he inherited Parrish and Stevie Johnson, but Nelson, Jones, Easley, and even Roosevelt and Aiken are a nice bunch of young WRs to have assembled using only one mid-round draft pick. Even if some of them fail to pick up the torch left by Evans, you have to give Nix some credit for finding these guys while concentrating primarily on the defense.

Finally, why did Nix pass on a QB in this past draft? Because, if you looked at the group, there were question marks about virtually every one of the QBs in that draft: Newton’s character, Ponder’s injury history and inconsistency, Locker’s footwork and accuracy (big arm, but very inaccurate and unable to win much in college), Mallet’s off-field behavior (late for meetings, drug and alcohol consumption), etc. Now look at who is eligible for next year’s draft: Luck, Barkley, L.Jones, Foles, K.Moore, R.Wilson, etc. Even if a couple of them decide to stay in school, it’s a much deeper draft, with more potential franchise QBs likely to be available. Why should Nix have reached for a QB with question marks in last year’s draft when he knew he could get a stud for his defense and next year’s draft would be much deeper at QB? The smart thing to do was to do what he did.

And, the same goes for the LT position. This year’s draft was one of the weakest in years for offensive linemen. Nix filled four positions on his defense with potential future starters before taking an OT who would be as much of a project as many of the offensive linemen taken before him. If you want to blame Nix for not reaching for Smith, the only real LT prospect in that draft, you can, but that’s a real stretch.

As for trading Lynch: Lynch was a year-long suspension waiting to happen if he stayed in Buffalo. While he never came out and said that he didn’t want to be in Buffalo, Lynch made no secret of the fact that he eventually wanted to go back to the West Coast at some point and did make it known that he wasn’t happy with some of the criticism that he got from the WNY media and some fans. Rather than take a chance on losing Lynch through suspension or ultimately free agency, Nix decided to get what he could for him while he still could get something for him (remember Holmes went to the Jets for a 5th or 6th rounder). That’s a judgement call. But, with the addition of a potential “home-run” threat in Spiller (who may yet become one), Nix could afford not to take that chance and get what he could for Lynch (who runs to contact and really isn’t a true breakaway threat). I think that was a good move.

While the Bills might not win many more games this year than last, they look like they have a chance to be a better team than last year. Overall, Nix’s rebuilding process seems to be progressing at a pretty decent rate, considering this is just his second year at it. There are still some very critical pieces missing that need to be brought in and there could be some setbacks before Nix gets a group together that can be serious contenders. But, I didn’t expect him to be able to do that overnight—as Gailley pointed out, he (and Nix) wouldn’t have gotten the job if there wasn’t a lot of work to do. And, I don’t expect the Bills to win a lot of games or sneak into the playoffs (making the playoffs isn’t and shouldn’t be the goal—being able to win the Super Bowl is what it’s all about!) at this stage of their rebuilding process. What I expect is progress in assembling a group of young talent that can develop into a contender in the near future. And, I think Nix has done a fairly decent job in doing that—but the real test will come during the course of this season when we will get a chance to see how well and how far some of these young players are able to develop and play. So far, so good…but, we’ll see….

Those who do not learn fromt eh past are doomed to repeat it.

by LifetimeBillsFan on Sep 10, 2011 6:45 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Holy heck, is that a record?

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Sep 10, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

with all due respect...

I dont think it takes 4 yrs to build a winner…unless you keep hitting other teams practice squads and waiver wires…we are way below the cap…and really 11 yrs of excuses gets tiresome…so when someone comes in with a 4 yr plan after 11 years of failure…when other teams rebuild in 1or 2 yrs.. .i tend to have a problem when it doesnt look like we addressed our needs (same needs year after year)

by Dingus Day on Sep 10, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Approve- Football guy in charge

The thing that stood out the most to me was his handling of the 3 local players on the roster (& the possibility of picking up a 4th-Gronkowski). Marketing minded people are keeping at least one or two of those players. Not Buddy, continuing on the unwavering path of removing who he believes will be best for the team-aka Schoebel “go ahead & retire, good luck”. Kawika Mitchell,. Lynch, Evans, Hang, a plethora of draft picks, etc… Out w/the old, in w/the new, all in our vision of what is to be, tough hard nosed players, hand picked of course.

Agree w/all Brian’s bullet points above except cutting Coleman & Roosevelt. Only beef is not finding coach more talent on oline(OT) but prob easier said than done. Nice rebound from loosing your best defender in free agency.

"Alright Men, lets go out there, bust um in the chops & get somebody bloody. Keep working till you get it right. Take the W in battle & make the Bills Nation Proud."

by Blood, sweat & Win on Sep 11, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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