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A Successfull Regionalization Strategy


I found myself writing a long winded comment this morning and decided that maybe I should actually publish it as a fanpost and add a survey to get some feedback.

We all know that the Bills struggle because their market is so small.  The concept of regionalization was introduced in 2000 when the Bills moved their training camp to St-John Fisher near Rochester, NY.  The plan was to regionalize the product and build up the fanbase in the Rochester area.  The move was very successfull and 11 years later they are still there. 

In 2008, OBD further extended the idea of regionalization north of the border into the metropolis of Toronto.  The Rogers group who were very hungry for bringing in an NFL product into Canada were willing to sell the farm to get it!  Wilson got $78M for 5 regular season games and 3 pre-season games.  The problem with this was that the Bills were not in control at all here. Rogers had clearly overpaid and was extremely greedy in their approach to selling this series to potential buyers.  The goal might have started off being to popularize the Bills in Toronto but it ended up just being a great Cash cow for Ralph Wilson.  In the end, Rogers basically allienated potential new fans by gauging them at the door.  I was on the list to get season tickets right off the bat and the prices that were quoted to me for seats in the lower bowl between the 20s ranged from $450ea to $550ea.  And to add insult to injury, Rogers had two options available:  Buy all 8 games up front to guarantee your seats or buy 3 games without any guarantee.  YES that's right folks, Rogers was expecting regular fans to dish out $1000 for two seats per game and buy all tickets for the 5y series in advance.  Gee, I wonder why the plan failed miserably??

Anyways, I've been giving this a lot of thought over the past few years and I have a strategy that I believe could be very successfull building up a fanbase and corporate support in Eastern Canada.  I explain it after the jump...

 


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I live in Montreal and 10-15 years ago this town was mostly Giant/Jet/Steeler/Cowbows fans but nothing really fanatical. During our heyday we saw some Bills fans pop out of the woodwork as well. You couldn’t be caught dead wearing a Patriots jersey. Today, probably 50% of the jerseys we see are Patriots so Winning isn’t everything… It’s the only thing!

Obviously our beloved Bills need to improve the product on the field but that alone would never be enough to win over fans.  I really believe in the Regionalization program although I completely disagree with the approach they took with the Rogers series, selling our home games to Toronto is not the best way to accomplish the ultimate goal which is to increase the fanbase and increase demand in the Buffalo Bills product. It was a quick cash grab and failed miserably beyond that point.

If Brandon was really serious about wanting to increase the demand he would create local Buffalo Bills offices in both Toronto & Montreal. The offices would promote the Bills through various events. Create a "BUZZ" in local hot spots, bringing in former players for guest appearances, cheerleaders, etc. Promoting the fact that the Ralph is in our back yard as well as promoting the game day atmosphere. They could easily create tour trip, organize bus loads with accommodations, etc. The population of Toronto is around 2.5M and in Montreal about 1.7M, that’s 4.2M people folks!! Buffalo’s population hovers around 360,000 and Rochester is 210,000.

It is inconceivable to me that they don’t put any effort whatsoever into the Toronto & Montreal markets. Very little investment would reap enormous returns – i guarantee it!! There is an enormous appetite for NFL football in both Montreal & Toronto. I myself, have been a season ticket holder for about 5 years and I am now up to 8 seats, two of my friends each own 4 seats so that’s 16 seats owned by people in Montreal. When we go down, we buy a boatload of extra seats and our group on game day is always between 16-30 people. We aren’t promoting it, it’s just the product that sells itself. Guys who try it once, become regulars every year. Imagine, this is with absolute garbage on the field!! Imagine what would happen with a winning team.  Russ, if you are reading this – I implore you to consider this idea because 4.2M people is a heck of a lot and these two cities have a lot of businesses that could easily buy up some luxury box seating if the demand was there. Rationalization is like rebuilding a team, it’s a slow process through the draft, rationalization must be done through the grass roots first. Once people are asking for the product, I guarantee you that corporations will be willing to shell out the $$ to send clients to luxury seats.

I can tell you that there is a huge appetite for NFL football in Canada and most people aren't really attached to any franchise in particular mainly because they are so far away.  Buffalo is definitely the closest NFL franchise to Toronto and is about as close to Montreal as Boston is.  Both cities are ripe for the picking!

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I don't think it's feasible

at least at this time. If the team wants to market itself further, they need to make sure they lock down WNY and more of CNY first. The Bills should be the team for people in those areas (outside of transplants), but is that the case. They’re obviously #1 in much of WNY, but the entire region should be Bills leans. Growing up in CNY, I remember a pretty strong Bills presence (we were good then), but once the late 90’s/early 00’s hit, it sure seemed like more of a Giants/Jets area. I haven’t lived there in some time, but based on friends who still do, the Bills presence has dimmed further. I think it’d be wise to better go after these areas if they want to market or regionalize, at least while they attempt to become a better team.

Imagine what would happen with a winning team.

In the end, nothing else truly matters. If the Bills continue to stink, there’s only so much of a regional presence they may have. Once the team starts winning and becomes a contender (we can all hope), the brand will strengthen and the ability to regionalize will be more apparent. Right now, there’s only so much the franchise can do.

With your Canadian ideas, would people who aren’t Bills fans really take to a team that hasn’t been good since the 90’s simply because of more exposure in their area? In this day and age with information available at all times, I find it hard to believe anything significant could come from that.

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by Kurupt on Sep 10, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It's not one OR the other

It’s not like they couldn’t try to go get both areas CNY & the two Canadian Cities.

No offense K but 4.2M people is a lot bigger base that CNY, there is also a much bigger base of corporations that would be more than willing to spend some corporate $$ on box seating, something that normal fans don’t.

The way I view it, there could be a few big sportsbars per city that buys into this. The staff wearing Bills jerseys during the game, the Bills game on every TV in the place, guest appearances, give aways, competitions between the Bills bars, etc The idea here is to start buildins fans & momentum. Then once the fanbase starts growing, the other facet of the plan is to go knock at small & medium corporations and offer them options for box seating with great travel arrangements. Right now if someone did this for the Patriots, they would sell like hotcakes in Montreal because most people who like NFL football have started to associate to the Patriots as their team.

In Toronto they assumed that people would come without spending the effort to create the demand for the Bills. What ended up happening is people go to see the game itself and a large number of those fans going are fans from the opposing team. Frankly I’ve never liked the idea of playing home games in Toronto because you can never replicate the experience that a true fan can get from the “Ralph”

With your Canadian ideas, would people who aren’t Bills fans really take to a team that hasn’t been good since the 90’s simply because of more exposure in their area?

It would be more than just exposure because the idea is to extend Bills nation into Montreal & Toronto. Make it into an event with special guests, radio shows, give aways, etc. Keep in mind that there are really only two options: Orchard Park (6hrs) or Foxborough (5-6hrs) – The Patriots are sold out and costs over $200 per ticket when you can find some, whereas the Bills still have season tickets available. It certainly would not be that hard to expand the fan base in Montreal & Toronto. The opportunity lies in the proximity & availability of tickets so even though our team has not done well for a while, you’ll get guys to come anyways because it’s inexpensive and fairly close. Once they come to a few games, I guarantee you one thing, the Bills fans will grow on them – Big time!! Our fan base is a huge seller, one of the best fan bases in the entire league! Our team has only one way to go and that’s up so these new potential fans, coming to Buffalo for a taste of the NFL experience, will get caught up in the experience and eventually find themselves drinking the coolaid and getting drunk on the euphoria of Bills Nation!!

BTW, Kurupt, you’re idea is way harder, trying to convert existing Jets / Giants & Patriots fans over to the Bills? Converting fans that are as close to or closer to NYC than they are to Buffalo? Why would a Jets or Pats fan ever convert over?

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Sep 10, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this idea

We need a smart marketing team and wins. I think if the Bills come out of the gate this year winning games wearing their (awesome) new jerseys, maybe they can start to re-brand. I have no idea why they haven’t made a bigger push to reach out to our northern neighbors, but they could and should. Entrenching the team further in the area by appealing to a huge, untapped market would go a long way. Great idea, rec’d.

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by killerokapi on Sep 10, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

tks

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Sep 10, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

FYI

The city of Buffalo’s population is more like barely 200k and the an entirety of Erie County might not be or is just about a million… just saying.

As an adjunct to this… a new stadium in Niagara falls or southern ontario while still keeping the team name “Buffalo Bills” is the best way to go IMO

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by killascript on Sep 11, 2011 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

a new stadium in Niagara falls or southern ontario

Putting a stadium in southern Ontario is the worst possible idea, you do realize you need a passport or enhanced license now to cross the border? That would alienate the current NY fanbase, just one more cost to see the Bills. I haven’t been to Canada in a very long time because off the increased security at the border. If the Bills went to southern Ontario, that would be it for me for going to the game. Niagra Falls USA for a stadium would be fine. I think the border security issue, makes regionalization into Canada much harder on a large scale. I used to Canada a lot befor 9/11, but the border crap after 9/11, passport and the security at the border made me say, it’s just not worth it anymore.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Sep 11, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything worth something in life requires a little effort...

The NFL is an American product and Canadians understand that. Sure security is higher but honestly it’s not so bad. I reiterate that both Montreal & Toronto have over 4.2M population and lets not forget the suburbs and surrounding areas. Just so that everyone here understands the massive potential market that sits at the doorstep of our team… Quebec & Ontario have a combined population just over 22 million people, most of which is concentrated in and around the two major cities.

Last year we had approx 55,000 season tickets sold, which means that approx 18,000 tickets remain available plus some of the club seating. I suspect that about 25% of the current season ticket holders are already Canadian, which means that 41,000 seats are filled by the Buffalo/Erie area (about 1M population).

Believe me folks, The Bills need to tap into those 22M Canucks north of the border! There are a lot of low hanging fruit just waiting to be picked. Ontario and Quebec represent almost 60% of Canada’s GDP, so to think that corporations would be interested in luxury Box seating for their customers is not that big of a stretch. Ontario’s GDP in 2010 was $578 billion while Quebec was $303 billion. To keep things into perspective, the Buffalo area GDP for that same time period was around $40M. There is no doubt that the future of the Buffalo Bills could be guaranteed if they could successfully regionalize their product into Canada.

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Sep 11, 2011 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i not to attack but

To renew your license is 20 bucks or more… an enhaced is 60… not a big deal. I got to Toronto all the time, and the security issue has changed very little. If a little extra work keeps the Bills the Buffalo Bills and we became uber popular in an untapped market… then I think an enhanced license or passport would serve you well…. and hey, you might want to get out and travel someday… you know, to another country perhaps.

I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter

by killascript on Sep 12, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

however

Nigara Falls USA would be good as well… and might just fix one the only city that makes Buffalo look good.

I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter

by killascript on Sep 12, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Ralph is fine just where it is

The idea of creating buzz from the grass roots in two of Canada’s largest cities that are also the closest to the Ralph is a very inexpensive way to start building the product in Canada, unlike building new stadiums. The problem is not proximity, it’s popularity.

Imagine starting small, two sports per city. Waiters/waitresses with Bills jerseys, The Bills game on every screen, competitions between the 4 bars, Buddy Nix or Chan Gailey with a pre-game pep talk, etc. Great prizes with trips to the Ralph, apparel, etc. Create & sell great packages for future games which include the tailgate experience, accommodations & transport.

With a little effort, the fan base could be built up through the grass roots. There is only one way to build a solid house and it starts with a solid foundation. Whether they are driving from Toronto or Montreal, it makes no difference at all to save 1/2hr on the drive for it to be in Niagara, the Ralph is a great venue!

Rebuilding a team properly takes time and patience

by keysh67 on Sep 11, 2011 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think it makes a big difference to move the ralph

It was a bad idea to begin with, and a half hour, maybe 40 minutes is a big enough deal to lure fans… a new stadium would also do the trick… Downtown Buffalo wouldnt be a bad idea either (waterfront)

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by killascript on Sep 12, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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