Patriots 49, Bills 21: Season-Ending Symmetry Reminiscent Of 2003
Back in 2003, the Buffalo Bills opened their season with a 31-0 thrashing of Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. That year, Buffalo finished 6-10, while New England went 14-2 en route to a Super Bowl win. In Week 17 that season, New England provided perfect symmetry to the season by beating the Bills 31-0.
In Week 3 this season, the Bills spotted the Patriots a 21-point lead before erasing it and winning 34-31. That win ended a 15-game losing streak to New England that began with the aforementioned 31-0 loss. Today, the Bills finished their season 6-10, while the Patriots are 13-3 and legitimate Super Bowl contenders. The symmetry still exists, too, as the Pats spotted the Bills a 21-point first-quarter lead before scoring 49 unanswered points en route to a 49-21 win.
The first quarter was exciting - dominant, even - and the rest of the game was total garbage, and an outcome everyone could see coming a mile out. After a 5-2 start, the Bills closed their season 1-8 - and now an off-season of change begins. Time will tell whether or not the amount of change will be sufficient to engender feelings of 2004, the one time in the last 12 years when the Bills have sniffed the playoffs.
Leave your thoughts on this season-ending loss, and the season in general, in the comments section.
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I don't even know where to begin...
Might as well do whatever it takes to stock pile draft picks….this team still lacks significant playmakers on both sides of the ball…
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 1, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I say the opposite. Start mortgaging a franchise QB with draft picks. Now.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 1, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With the new CBA significantly downgrading the pay of top picks it might come to the point where if you’re not top 6 or 7th overall pick you have to trade up to get a franchise QB (assuming there are 2 good prospects in a year).
Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)
1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB
by NordicBillsfan on Jan 1, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I just dunno anymore...
…I have got nothing. How do you explain that?
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Well
Start with needing to lower expectations dramatically regarding any improvement in this franchise. I’ll give it two more years than I’m looking for a new fav. team. Hard to do but I’d like be part of a team that wins and makes play-offs at least every few yrs, not like 12 yrs and counting! Fan since dirt, and reaching my breaking point.
If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) Until we draft/acquire franchise QB we'll be setting records for losing soon!
by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
fitz is the best backup qb in the league
he can win games…but not seasons
prove me wrong harvard, but that’s what you’ve shown so far in your career
keep talking about Fitz (yawn….)
not sure if u noticed but the D got roasted like a group of JV marshmallows
let’s not forget Brady on average could shave with the amount of time he has in the pocket
let’s also compare their TE & WR depth…let’s chuckle and not bother
Fitz on NE is still a playoff team.
Brady on Buff is not.
Yep I said it.
Is it irrational? probably not. certainly no more irrational then the attention this blog gives to Fitz’s shortcomings on a team so lacking in talent and depth- especially on D
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it was a joke, I know G. Edwards and our D that gave up 49 are the real problem.
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Thats it DC and D. Get that straight and Fitz will just play catch with opposing DB’s. Franchise QB heals all wounds!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
it helps if O-can move the ball
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by Montel on Jan 1, 2012 10:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
wow
New England’s defense is terrible, and as great as Fitz was in the first quarter, he was that bad the rest of the game. If you truly believe New England is a playoff team with Fitz instead of Brady you might wanna send Charlie Sheen some of your stuff.
And please don’t bring up the Patriots of old winning with Cassel, they actually had a legit defense then, a running game, and a guy named Moss…
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
by hoosier3 on Jan 1, 2012 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Hmm
I’d say Matt Flynn is the best backup QB in the league.
Flynn for the Bills?
Surely a major topic of conversation in Billsland this offseason will be whether or not the team should try to sign Matt Flynn. After watching Fitz’s terrible deep passes today, and in light of Flynn’s remarkable performance, it’s a question at least worth debating.
Matt Flynn succeeded today because he has one of the most impressive offensive juggernauts ever assembled. Flynn may be good, but I don’t see him being more capable than Fitz of pulling this team out of the dumps.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 1, 2012 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’d say he proved why Drew Brees deserves the MVP instead of Rodgers. Anyone can put up massive numbers with that offense.
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by RedStickBillsFan on Jan 1, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
24 TD, 23 INT
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 1, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
give him another drive on the field and he'd somehow pull off two more picks.
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
ha
the infamous two-pick drive…fumble on the return, recovered by the offense, followed by another interception
if one man can pull it off, it'd be the Amish Rifle.
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you mean
The Amish Slingshot???
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
umm well that’s about what score I expected.
same old same old.
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 4:17 PM EST via Android app reply actions
at least the Jets aren't going to the playoffs.
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
lol
Think there worse off than us actually!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Leave your thoughts on this season-ending loss, and the season in general, in the comments section
“Fitz sucks and Ralph is cheap”
That is all folks.
Seriously though, I’m a pretty patient fan, and roll with the punches type of fan, but it is getting downright difficult to root for my team. 12yrs is a long time. And I have only been a fan since the mid 80’s. I’m just at a lost for words with this team.
And folks, if there are any doubters, left, please oust yourself. Do you really feel that Ryan Fitzpacktrick is the answer? If so, can you pleeeeeaaaze ask a different question?
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
Id be very curious
to have a stat on how many of Fitz’s interceptions touch his receivers hands first before they land in the defenders.
Fitz is not the biggest problem, the biggest problem is that while our WRs are lovable they are simply have atrocious hands, from Stevie on down. I want nothing more than for Blackmon to fall to us in the draft and the Bills to resign Stevie and move forward with two good receivers because its getting obnoxious playing with tipped balls every game.
Amazing ho a team that was so fun and lovable to watch at the beginning of the season can do a full 180 and become so friggin annoying to watch.
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by poz on Jan 1, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by maestro110584 on Jan 1, 2012 7:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah
But Chan can only cover defiencies for part of season. QB is biggest problem because Fitz isn’t elite. Of all the franchises out there this team needs a QB! Forget SJ and whatever other WR’s we have. All WR’s drop balls. Its the ones Fitz can’t deliver that hurt. INT’s. Game over. Said this from get go, Fitz can’t keep throwing picks!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
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by Montel on Jan 1, 2012 10:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
copy and paste, copy and paste…im convinced your a robot and thats all you do with your posts on here
by Air Compressor on Jan 2, 2012 6:32 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
We can run an offense that is based on a short passing game, and a lot of running. We are going to have Fred and Spiller next year and should run 30 times a game at least. Let fitz throw 30 times maximum. That is the only criticism I have Gailey.. throwing the ball way to much, run the ball control the clock and play good defense. If we can play good defense we can go to the playoffs.
You are now Watching The Throne.
True but at the same time
where are the throws? Are they hitting the receiver in stride like most of Bradys, Rodgers, and Brees?
When I watch most of Fitz’s throws they seem to be behind, high (leaving the WR open to take a shot from the oncoming safety), or underthrown. Most of the deep balls receivers have to slow down for, during this 2nd half of the year a lot of his throws have been erratic and placed poorly.
I wouldn’t say it’s all on Fitz for his INT’s, but it certainly isn’t all his receivers either. He’s got to do a better job moving forward (if he is still even going to be our QB) with ball placement like he was during the 1st half of the year. He was throwing receivers open and allowing them to pick up YAC in the process, not just diving or lunging for a high, low or behind placed ball.
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By that logic you must also look at how many times a CB dropped an easy interception and how many times WRs made a should be intercepted catch….a pick is a pick, regardless of how it happened
If you rifle every throw instead of using a little finnesse you are going to have tipped balls. That is a common complaint that tipped balls are not the QB’s fault, the truth is sometimes it is.
by IiiIIIiiIiI on Jan 2, 2012 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Id be very curious
to have a stat on how many of Fitz’s interceptions touch his receivers hands first before they land in the defenders.
I’d be very curious to have a stat on how many of fitz’s passes the receiver had to leave their feet or reach either by jumping or diving or reaching behind them, just to have a shot of getting their hands on the ball.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2012 6:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t blame Fitz nearly as much as the defense…not even close in my eyes. I know that he’s the QB and he’s ultimately responsible, but the defense was pathetic. That 3rd down conversion at about 6:00 left in the 3rd quarter when Welker ran down to the 3 yard line uncontested made me almost throw up.
Fitz threw one bad interception (I don’t count the garbage time one), and he had another glance off of Spiller’s hands (VERY catchable ball) and into the hands of the defense, but he had nothing to do with the Patriots running like 10 plays in the 4th quarter and amounting 21 points. Seriously, can we PLEASE get someone that can guard a TE? Hernandez had his way with the defense all day.
This was some bad luck, horrible defensive play, and the offense that grabbed an early lead to watch the momentum switch wildly the other direction and then felt the need to play catch up which, as we all know, they are not very good at.
Pathetic.
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by stetzwebs on Jan 1, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
How Can You Blame the Defense...
when they spent so much of 3 quarters on the field because the offense couldn’t execute? I remember one drive where we were second and one and couldn’t get a first down!
your kidding right? the D gets a pass for 40+
……wow
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
your kidding right? the D gets a pass for 40+
fitz turned the ball over 4 times via picks. are you gonna give him a free pass when he put the D in a lousy situation 4 times?
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
I can blame them because they played TERRIBLE. Go look at Brady’s passing yards…look who was catching the ball, two TEs (albeit two fantastic TEs) accounted for almost ALL of his passing yards. That’s on the defense. What I saw today was an inability to tackle, bad angles, and no pressure at all.
The offense caught some bad breaks (like the Fitz interception off of Spiller’s hands) but was still executing well into the third quarter. That’s not an excuse for the defense who gave up 42 points.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
to be fair
those two TEs have combined for 2000 yards, 150+ catches, and like a bajillion TDs this year.
OK
I’ll definitely give you lack of pass rush, which has been a problem for too long. But the tight end argument is weak (by your own admission) because they are two of the best, by a wide margin (as a pair) in the league.
Has any team been able to stop Gronkowski this year?
We can agree to disagree, but when you jump out to a 21-0 lead and then look horrible the rest of the game a good portion of this debacle falls on the offense.
Happy New Year fellow Rumbler.
Not every team has given up 260+ yards to the pair of them. Yes, it’s hard to stop them, but the Bills allowed them to be the entire Pats’ offense today, and that falls on the defense.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I've been pretty harsh on Fitzy these past few weeks....
But, I hold him responsible for his play. The statement in my my sig says it all. I know Our defense is terrible. Our playcalling is very suspect at times. Our WR our JV at best. We have a lot of guys hurt.
But Fitz (and I am by no means an NFL scout) just does not not pass the eyeball test. Watch Tom, Drew, Aarron, Peyton etc. play and can you honestly put fitz any where near guys like that? Ans all of there defenses are borderline passable.
I just refuse to accept Fitz’s sucktitude….is he the only reason why we are losing so many games? Of course not…but that doean’t make it ok…
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 1, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Get in line and take a number.
Qb is probably number ten on a list of needs for this team to keep moving in the right direction.
A QB in the draft with our first selection would sell season tickets. I’ll give u that.
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude...
I could care less about selling season tickets. I don’t live in Buffalo anymore. QB is number one on our list moving foward. By far the most important position on an NFL team. I want my team to win a superbowl. That is why they play the game correct? History dictates we need a better QB to do so. It’s not hard to grasp that concept. Plenty of evidence is out there. I look at other teams that have their guys at QB, yet have not so great D’s as well.
Defense is just not as nearly that important in today’s game as it used to be.
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 1, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The league begs to differ. Find a Super Bowl winner with a D next to the bottom of the league. You won’t.
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 4:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are correct Sir.
It depends on your criteria. I just stated that D is not nearly as big of a factor as it used to be.
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
And as a rhetort...
Find a Super Bowl winner with a D next to the bottom of the league.
Find me a Superbowl winning team with a QB who is next to the bottom of league as a player.
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
Fitz isn’t at the bottom. He is right in the middle. Give me a defense in the middle at least and we can talk about upgrading QB.
Fitz is in the playoffs on a host of teams with solid defenses. The offense can put up points and has proven to be statistically the strength of this weak team by comparison
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
fitz might be the worst down field thrower among starters on the NFL. I’m not sure I’m right – but he’s awful at it
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 5:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
His strength has never been his deep ball. His quick release is the reason this offensive line looked better then average and we seen some good production at times.
Give him Brady’s skill players and offensive line and he is a pro bowler.
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if you can’t hit the deep ball consistently then defenses cheat more – his inability to be accurately deep skims down our play book and let’s defenses play more aggressive on shorter throws
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 5:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Brady doesn’t really have great skill players. He has Welker and some nightmares at TE. Welker is nothing without Brady and Gronkowski is Chandler with Fitzpatrick.
Brady is the reason people know, talk about, and loathe the Patriots. He’s also the reason I respect the crap out of them.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 1, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Fitz is in the playoffs on a host of teams with solid defenses.
I don’t care about the playoffs. I want a SB win. Do you feel Fitz is the guy to get us one?
Fitz isn’t at the bottom. He is right in the middle.
And I should be ok with this?
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
What u should be less okay with is the worst defense in the league. Several offensive players had record franchise milestones. examples: Fitz (3000+x2) Johnson (1000+x2)
Name a defensive milestone we had this year?
Scratch that, name one positive we had on defense this year except the hope young players will get better and not always get torched in the future
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 5:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That puts Fitz a little over halfway to Brees, Stafford, and Brady this year… it is a pass happy league. If you can’t throw for 3000 yards in todays NFL, you’re not good.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
by hoosier3 on Jan 1, 2012 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Name a defensive milestone we had this year?
9 sacks in a game vs washington
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2012 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t wanna put the buffalo wagon before the horse. :)
let’s start by trying to break a playoff streak that has taken up the better part of most of our lives.
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No
QB has been #1 need for so long I can’t remember. So we go and extend our back-up qb making him a starter, wow were going places! Oh I know Fitz isn’t a back-up, pass the wine!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fitz is elite!!!

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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 2, 2012 6:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd....This is great
If you can find a way to put Fitz is Elite in plays of Oh, Yeaaahh! …… I would love that as my avatar.
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
true!
And about 3 1/2 games into his Bills career – whoever the next qb is – if he hadn’t made the Pro Bowl, thrown for 24 td’s and -3 interceptions, and screwed a super model during tv timeout, this neurotic fan base would have him hanging from the nearest post, tarred, feathered and dipped in flutie flakes.
by LeClaire Bill on Jan 2, 2012 4:47 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say his sucky play is acceptable, I said it didn’t suck today. And it didn’t. Yes, he can’t throw the long ball, despite trying several times today. And no, he’s nowhere near Brees or Brady or Rodgers…but he did not lose the game today, and there are bigger problems that need addressing just as badly in the offseason as QB (and yes, I want to draft a franchise guy).
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
You dream of a franchise QB, I dream of a franchise DE
Personally, I think on this team we would get better way faster with a pass rush to combat the near unstoppable Brady unless he is pressured. The first goal is to win the division right?
by eriesimmer on Jan 1, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good QBs hide deficiencies like that, though. It’s easier to draft one guy to be a QB than to put together a dominant 11-man defense, and so should be one of the top priorities.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Jan 1, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
bingo
We have a winner!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
sure, tell that to Carolina and St Louis
They drafted franchise Qb’s and they are drafting ahead of us. Not sure if anyone ever notices but it’s still a team game.
by eriesimmer on Jan 2, 2012 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
First, they drafted Cam Newton and went from 2 wins to 6. Second, if you think that Newton didn’t single-handedly change that team this offseason, you haven’t seen him play. Third, it’s his rookie year…he looks as if he will be a dominant player in the future.
I have no explanation for St. Louis except they lost a lot of players early. Bradford took them from 1 win to 7 wins and vying for a playoff spot in his rookie year, so it obviously did make a difference there, too. Those examples both provide evidence to my point.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
by stetzwebs on Jan 2, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He might not have lost the game, but he didn’t do much to win it, either. Up 21 to nothing and the Bills didn’t come close to putting one in the end zone the rest of the game. A franchise QB, which is what a guy with a deal like he has is supposed to be, is capable of doing something the rest of the game. You want the offense to take all the credit for being up 21 to 0 (obviously the defense was doing something right) but none of the blame the rest of the way.
Fitz looks abysmal out there at times. How many 3rd and 4th downs this year has he just winged a pass at a receiver who hasn’t made a break yet or isn’t remotely close to the guy?
Most defenses look a whole lot better when their QB is getting the job done.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
by hoosier3 on Jan 1, 2012 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eh, I disagree. I think Fitz played fine, even into the third and fourth quarters. There was one absolutely abysmal throw that resulted in an INT, but two were garbage INTs, and one was off the hands of the receiver in a freak accident. Other than that, his accuracy was fine today, and he was hitting his spots for the most part. There were some dumb penalties, and an ill-timed botched snap, all of which I credit to poor discipline, not on Fitz. There were games where he’s played poorly, this was not one of them, despite what the stat sheet says.
Yes, he shoulders some blame, but I think with a defense that makes two or three stops in the second half, and one less botched snap and one less Spiller flub, this game goes considerably differently.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
boy, i dunno.
you have to play a near perfect game to put yourself in position to win against the patriots offense and fitz tossed 4 interceptions out there for the entertainment of the masses.
its a team game – no one person wins or loses it too often, but those 4 picks sure don’t help the cause.
even if we had a top flight D – it would have been very difficult to overcome those turnovers. for a guy whose purported strength is reading defenses and putting the ball in the right spot – to the open guy – he sure screws the pooch often enough to make a guy wonder what the hell they teach at harvard – as they say – the hardest part is getting in, not getting out.
by LeClaire Bill on Jan 2, 2012 4:55 AM EST up reply actions
It is a team game, and the team’s defense gave up the lead. Most of Fitz’s bad throws were garbage time…who cares that he threw two INTs in the last five minutes of a game we were losing by 3 scores in? His stats yesterday were padded in the wrong direction.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Yep
D sucks, next. Did you think a new DC would fix it? If you did why? He needs players as well as any other coach. Yeah keep blaming coaches for lack of talent. When will this team get someone that can cover a friggin TE?
If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) Until we draft/acquire franchise QB we'll be setting records for losing soon!
by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
There is a middle ground between “it’s the coach’s fault” and “the team has no talent”, and that’s where the Bills are on defense. We’ve had two drafts mostly dedicated to defense…some of it has to do with scheme, and that’s Edwards’ department.
Besides, whether it’s the coaches or the players, all I said was that it was the defense’s fault.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Hmm
Good point. My opologies. Injuries sidelined alot of rookies right? Not to mention KW. Give DC benefit of doubt and let draft picks assimilate before we blame anybody on D. Get the QB and don’t need a D!
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I do agree we need some more talent on D, and I’m not really calling for Edwards’ head. I didn’t think the D would be good this year, as it takes a few years to get DL and DB rookies up and playing at a high level in general. Next year, though, is Gailey’s and Edwards’ last chance, in my opinion, to field a winner.
And oh yeah, get a franchise QB in the first ;)
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Coaching Doomed Us
Benching your #1 wideout?
Abandoning the run game?
Keeping Fitz in so late?
Okay, that last 1 is a mute point but he’d hardly have so many interceptions if we didn’t keep trotting him out there when we’re getting killed. 2 today. 2 against Dallas that i can recall offhand. He needs to be better, sure, but if we’re having him throw 46 passes expecting to win we’re seriously misguided.
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Disagree
Coaches can only coach it takes player to execute. And I say execute them all! :)
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by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
George Wilson and Dayton Florence both need to be replaced too so add that to off-season needs.
both are slow with poor to awful change of direction
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Essentially, the whole defense is slow.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 1, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Saying George Wilson is slow and needs to be replaced.
is very knee-jerk and not at all looking at the season as a whole.
yea I am looking for Searcy to start to take over
he just needs to get better on passing downs.
You are now Watching The Throne.
Definitely
so the Bills already have a guy in training for that position.
And I think Wilson holds the spot down well enough until Searcy is ready.
no – its not knee jerky. I’ve felt this way almost all season just haven’t said it because people love the guy. I waited till the season was over – now its over and he is still slow
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 4:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I can see where your coming from
but I think he is a dependable starter and what he lacks in speed he makes up for in positioning. I like his production more than what whitner provided.
I think replacing him isnt a huge priority.
he’s a liability just like Florence – you should actively look to upgrade Jose types of players
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 4:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I would disagree with that.
I don’t think hes a liability.
I should have said – I know he is. because I believe it
by J2 on Jan 1, 2012 5:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Watching Matt Flynn
rising to the occasion in a meaningless game for the Packers – definitely making a statement. 6 TD passes – new Packers record.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Jan 1, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions
FA at the end of the season too.
will probably have cemented himself at least a Fitz-esque deal with this performance.
by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Jan 1, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't get to see the game.
What players stood out for good performances today? I saw the stat lines but those don’t always tell the whole truth, and did Jasper actually play today?
Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)
1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB
I thought
Nick Barnett looked good today.
CJ Spiller looked good but had some awful moments.
I thought Aaron Williams was being targeted by Brady and was routinely out of position, could be wrong on that but its what I recall – that he had an awful game.
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
by poz on Jan 1, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Just waiting for the "Bills Fire Defensive Coordinator George Edwards" headline...
in 3…2…1…
Some of the names people come up with for their kids start the kids out neck deep in social hell.
I really don't know what to think anymore...
I’ve really grown to hate this team. Not just because they are bad but because they are going nowhere. And I’m not just talking about hating this particular group of guys; I’m talking about the Bills organization. They are just spinning their wheels. We have no young, developing QB. We have a young WR who can’t stop costing the team penalty yards. We have a putrid defense. We can’t stay healthy. We don’t have depth. We can’t get good coaches. On and on!
I have been cheering for this team since the early 80’s. I have been through downs and ups (more downs). I feel like the organization doesn’t care. Why should I? Why should I keep buying gear? Why should I spend hard earned money to buy shirts, hats, and things? It’s not going to anything; it’s not going to a successful team.
I have given this team blind support for years, but I don’t know how much more of this I can take.
by RabidBuffalo on Jan 1, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Well, it’s never easy being a Bills fan. I don’t blame you for the way you feel right now. Not one iota. (BTW, what the heck is an iota anyway?) Not one bit. They ended up sucking today.
On a brighter note, they only won 4 games last year. They won two this year. Last year they lost to the Pats twice. We bested them in our first meeting this year.
We have Dareus, and believe that. It was a great draft pick.
I honestly didn’t think the Bills were going to do too well today and I walk away from this game unsurprised by the outcome. The manner in which unfolded is classicly painful though. Ouch Ouch Double ouch!
I would have liked to have seen Jasper v Wilfork, and I think it it had been a blowout sooner, we might have.
Anyway, I look forward to more Bills football in the future.
if you can’t win at home at home against the flaming thumbtacks, you don’t deserve to sniff the playoffs. -Leclaire Bill
I hear ya
And I’ve been trying to cheer each year since 1968. Its just no fun anymore. Every year, trying to find some glimmer or sliver that they will at least improve – not regress. And it doesn’t come. Just when you think they can’t get worse – or make a more bone headed move – THEY DO! they’ve elevated incompetence to an art form.
I’m a pretty even keeled, patient, rose colored glasses, find the diamond in a pile of horse crap type of person. but i just can’t watch or follow the bills anymore – try as i might.
they’re just such a perpetual joke – if i were commisioner, i’d actually ask them to leave quietly so that a real team could take their place. its that bad.
by LeClaire Bill on Jan 2, 2012 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
On another note,
Aaron Rodgers?
Most overrated QB in the game?
:P
I think Rob Johnson could put up those kind of numbers with that amazing offense.
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody is going to trade Rob Johnson-like draft picks
for Flynn. Maybe more.
Could be the next Johnson/Kolb
so thats never a sure thing.
or he could be the new Shaub.
he was Vick’s backup, right?
by JJS on Jan 1, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yep your right
I’m just saying, can’t always be sure with these things.
Systems are important for any QB.
Exactly
Great system with two great QB’s nice to GB.
If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) Until we draft/acquire franchise QB we'll be setting records for losing soon!
by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
No. Not at all. I’d take him over Brady today in a new york minute.
by LeClaire Bill on Jan 2, 2012 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
Fitz played pretty well for the first half
IF we had a couple good OLBs and another good CB this team would be good. We also should have ran the ball much more once we were up 21-0. Fitz was not great but he was good, he definitely is not very accurate but he can lead us to the playoffs, and with a good defense who knows? but I still don’t think this team is that far away. 2 OLBs, a CB, a WR,and resign Stevie. If we do that and don’t make the playoffs then either get rid of Fitz, fire Gailey or Both. I am actually excited for the off season, and next year.
You are now Watching The Throne.
The Bills need to draft a QB Fitz is wildly inaccurate, and wildly inconsistent. Not descriptions you want from your ‘franchise qb’.
On another note this is year 3 of rebuilding upcoming, what’s the over/under for when they are done rebuilding and bleeding talent to when they are in the playoffs?
Re-build
Is used here like it means something but yet this franchise has been re-building since 2001. Its a excuse for consistently losing is all! Were in perpetual re-build and very tired of it.!
If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) Until we draft/acquire franchise QB we'll be setting records for losing soon!
by buffalobacker on Jan 1, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Flat Out Disappointing
Disappointing end to a season – we’re bottom of the AFC East and even worse, 12 years outta the playoffs.
I guess Ralph can rationalize the 3 extra wins this year as “improvement” but, given the 1-7 end-of-season-slide, it’d be hollow.
Fact is, Buddy and Chan have staked their future on Fitz and they’ll be given at least one more year to see if their plan pans out – I’ll be shocked if they pull his deal before March and go for a franchise QB.
Play-makers are needed everywhere – hope Doug Whaley and the scouting team can bring us some hope this draft.
ugh, when you wrote 3 extra wins it just made me sadder that it was only a 2 win improvement. I know it was a typo but it really nailed home the point that we got 2, only 2, more wins then last year. Thats so little…..
This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill
by poz on Jan 1, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeap
and what makes it even more sad is the fact that we started 5-2 this year and I think like 0-7 or something last year? Last year we were one of the few teams talked about as going potentially winless and this year we were one of the teams talked about being able to finally make the playoffs. Such a sad depressing reality, that after all that, after all the early turnovers, beating the Pats and Raiders in back to back come from behind wins we finish just 6-10 and with only 2 more wins than the season before.
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Can we call the game at 40 minutes?
I decided to head out and smell the roses a little today, and since my Android is in the shop (or more literally sitting on my shelf with a busted screen while I save up enough money to invoke insurance on it) I couldn’t even hear the broadcast, which was annoying when I saw how closely we were playing the Pats for three quarters. Then the collapse happened.
So my thoughts:
1. Fitz needs two things — to learn how to thread the needle between players better, and confidence. No picks til the last quarter, then four in the fourth? Something’s wrong there. Regardless, we’re getting Wilson or Tannehill next year in the draft, most likely, unless Griff — or Luck if the Colts really do pass on Luck for Griffin, as some have suggested — slips to us, and either Fitz will wake up, or he’ll be backup somewhere in 2013. In which case it all depends on if I’m my target weight whether I fulfill my signature exactly or switch it to a Yale helmet and nothing else. (Pray for Fitz’s career. Trust me.)
2. How the hell is Steve Johnson such a frigging prima donna? I give Chan full credit for sitting him and keeping him sat after that. God, I was hoping he’d learn something from TO, but he learned all the wrong stuff, with this and the fall-down at Jersey. I’m really looking forward to him and Floyd if not … whoever Poz was mentioning earlier … on the ends, but I do hate seeing a man who ‘thinks who he is’, according to my mother.
3. I think our D is built right. But it needs conditioning and depth. That’s another trademark of this D, it runs out of steam. I’m confident next year we’ll do better with a full proper training regiment in the offseason, but we need to pick up solid backups in the latter half of the draft.
That’s about it. Kind of unnerved by the collapse, but we did stay with them for three. And that was better than last year’s finale, just like this was better than last year in general. The team needs to make 9-7 and squeak the playoffs next year to keep up the pattern, though.
If Ryan Fitzpatrick does not take the Bills to the Big Game, ever, I will run through Harvard's campus wearing a Yale jersey. I am that sure. Or that crazy.
Looking Forward to 2012...
I mean, Chan led us to a 50% increase in wins from the previous season! That’s progress, yes? If he can do that again, we’ll be at 9 wins next year. Not so shabby.
Still have a lack of athletes. IMO, they could use a QB, a WR, OL depth, LBs, a DE depth, and a CB in the draft/free agency. But there are some nice young players on the team. A few more guys need to be purged from the roster, and they should be ready to push for a 500 season!
Of course, they might make a bigger push next year with the easier sked…sitting at 10-5 in mid-December…just as the Mayan Calendar ends and the world goes boom! A classic ending for a Bills fan, I might add.
Enjoy the off-season, fellow Bills fans. We’re always better in the off-season.
by T McGee on Jan 1, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We're picking Tenth in the draft I believe,dudes.
Ron Paul 2012
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jan 1, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I could use a post here
detailing what exactly happened between 2003 and 2004 that brought the Bills to the brink of the playoffs.
I might even take tony romo over fitz
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by chaucer on Jan 1, 2012 10:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We need a QB!
Fitz arm is too weak to handle the strain of being the starter. As his arm tired, his throws lost their accuracy, and touch. A productive offense compliments a mediocre defense by keeping them off the field.
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by Montel on Jan 1, 2012 11:30 PM EST via Android app reply actions
His Arm's Not Weak . . .
He’s just not consistently accurate on the deep ball. With a competent receiving corp., Fitz can move the chains (and he’s proven he can this year with the dinks and dunks) but we don’t scare any team with a deep threat.
A fitting End
A fitting end to a sorry season.
Only the Bills could go into Foxboro with an apparently good. aggressive, game plan – then piss down their collective leg, and crap themselves in craptastic fashion at the same time. They don’t even deserve a colostomy bag or a tissue to clean themselves up with.
Embarrassing.
Lead 21-0 and then give up 49 unanswered points. Yep. Not 28, not 34, not 38 – 49 flippin’ unanswered points. They could have left the field entirely and given up less. If there were a few more minutes on the clock, the Patriots would have scored 89.
Another year – another joke. After a while – it just gets unbearable and a person finds something else that at least might have a light at the end of the tunnel. The Bills? Eck.
Any chance
That George Edwards gets the axe and we would have a shot to interview/hire Steve Spagnuolo??

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