Buffalo Bills Courting David Lee For Coaching Staff, Per Report
by Brian Galliford on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 AM EST
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PrintESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting that the Buffalo Bills are one of two teams courting David Lee for vacancies on their coaching staff.
Lee spent 2011 as the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss, and was most recently in the NFL as the quarterbacks coach of the Miami Dolphins for three seasons. There, he was widely credited for introducing the "Wildcat" offense to the NFL, a look that he picked up at Arkansas.
Buffalo is looking for a new quarterbacks coach after George Cortez departed to become head coach of the CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats. That's the role Lee would fill in Buffalo. The other team courting Lee? The New York Jets, who just this week hired former Dolphins coach Tony Sparano to run their offense. Lee coached with Sparano for three years in Miami, and the duo also spent four years together as assistants with the Dallas Cowboys.
Clearly, the Jets have an in with Lee that the Bills don't. Chan Gailey is aiming pretty high in trying to fill out his coaching staff, however.
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Don't forget the Southern factor
Nix and Gailey are from the south. Also, a lot of people think NYC is an abomination.
Sadly...
…a lot of people feel the same about Buffalo. :(
by Fatso McGraw on Jan 12, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
David Lee is now a Buffalo Bill QB Coach
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Yes!!!!! Take that squishy fishies .....
I know….I’m a petty petty man :-)
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by Kurupt on Jan 12, 2012 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the south is actually a lot like
upstate NY, just with different accents
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing Buffalo isn’t “upstate,” it’s Western New York. The best of the New Yorks.
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by NotReadytoRock on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Screw the wildcat. I’d prefer a QB coach who can teach skills like reading defenses and throwing mechanics. I want someone who can develop a young QB — hopefully, one we draft in April — into a legitimate passing threat.
by SiriusRed on Jan 12, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
and
“someone” needs to do whatever he can to help Fitz (don’t know IF that’s possible). If CHIX are set on Fitz as the man, someone needs to try and fix what’s wrong. Personally, I think what’s wrong is talent and skill…things you cannot teach.
Bringing in a gimmick guy isn’t the answer. Oh, and how’s the QB situation in Miami now? Henne is a mess.
No thanks.
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Miami is one of the few teams in the league with an obviously inferior situation at quarterback.
by SiriusRed on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
@Fansince60
Coaches, in general, know many styles of football. They might prefer one over another for whatever reason, but the more experienced coaches are familiar with everything. Because Lee introduced the wildcat doesn’t make him a “gimmick guy.” At the time it was introduced the wildcat was extremely effective. Good on him for introducing something out of the norm to help his team win. Good on Sparano for going along with it.
Lee wasn’t there last season so the QB situation in Miami now has nothing to do with him. Henne improved from his rookie year. Not that he’s great, but he is better than when he came into the league. A coach is not a magician. No coach will make Fitz what he isn’t. He will build up his strengths and try to limit his weaknesses. Ultimately the player is the one who has to play and implement what he’s taught if he can.
Calling an NFL coach a "gimmicky guy" is not realisitic.
Anybody who makes it to coaching in the NFL has to have fundamental things down.
And besides, I don’t think you can argue that the Wildcat was a bad thing when it was first implemented for the Dolphins. Before defenses caught up to it, it was a really creative and successful idea.
He seems to have decent success, although in college as offensive coordinator they did pretty terrible, I didn’t really follow them at all but it’s possible that their players were really bad too. I’m not sure if I like him all that much…here’s a quote from an aolnews.com article
“Though his tenure in Miami didn’t quite the end the way he would have liked, with some blame landing on his shoulders for the perceived regression of third-year quarterback Chad Henne…” regression being blamed on a coach isn’t a good thing
i agree with all the comments above
i dont know how a wildcat qb is going to improve fitz’s accuracy, mechanics and deep ball…
but if the bills indeed are serious about david lee i dont know why the jets would have an upper hand on us… we have brad smith here… for david’s style, he’s got to be more tempted to come here… to see what he could do with brad in there…
dont know why you think gailey is aiming high… after all he did convince his old friend dave wanndstedt to join us who is a higher profile…
Brad smith our developmental qb. Just a thought.
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by matthew62 on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Wouldn't you want your developmental QB to be
A) younger than 28?
B) a quarterback?
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by twoeightnine on Jan 12, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t see any way that the Bills could look at Brad Smith as a potential starting QB.
by SiriusRed on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not really a starter but could develop him as a wildcat qb if thats what we want to say.
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by matthew62 on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Aiming high?
his track record is not THAT impressive
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by MattRichWarren on Jan 12, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
If he can save Sanchez he'll be a hero
and walk into almost any job he wants in the NFL.
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by twoeightnine on Jan 12, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
That’s an accurate statement. It’s not the safer bet, though. Just my opinion.
by MattRichWarren on Jan 12, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I foresee alot of drama this offseason for the NYJ. If they miss the playoffs next season u can bet there will be a lot of housecleaning
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by Buffalo Stro on Jan 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope they just go ahead and burn that house down. It’s become a hangout for society’s underbelly.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jan 12, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think sanchez has a ton of untapped potential and talent.
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by chaucer on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As a model?
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Jan 12, 2012 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Bringing in Tony Sparano
to me indicates that the Jets are never going to ask Sanchez to win any game with his arm. You’re going to see a Jets team with a dominating offensive line and a smashmouth run game. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see them make aggressive moves for Trent Richardson in the draft. Lee’s task in NY would be “Make Sanchez a decent game manager, leave the heavy lifting to our run team”.
In Buffalo, he would be asked to do more with Fitz, and a line that is questionably worse than NYs.
There is nothing wrong with Fitz mechanics or accuracy.....
He had one of the highest completion % in the NFL. The offsense Gailey runs has quick throws based on timing patterns and getting the ball out quickly. If the timing is off slightly by the QB or WR then that leads to interceptions. The INTs are a by product of the system.
There are certain aspects of the Wildcat in a spread offense and that is probably why they are looking at him. The same as Cortez, CFL football uses the spread more, precisely why Cortez was brought in.
Fitzpatrick has no accuracy beyond the short throws. Even the short throws are marginal sometimes, and Fitz has no sense of touch. Every pass is thrown with as much velocity as he can get on it, even if the receiver is ten feet away.
by SiriusRed on Jan 12, 2012 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There is nothing wrong with Fitz mechanics or accuracy…..
I’ve watched Fitz throw too many passes off his back foot. He, without a doubt, has room to improve as far as his mechanics go
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure about that. I saw plenty of times this year when the pocket, while not being completely perfect, has not yet collapse when he heaves it off his back foot. He’s a quick decision maker, which is good, except when he doesn’t stop to plant because he sees an opening. The last interception against the Giants was a good example of this. He saw that Stevie had beaten his man (which he had), so he flung it down the sidelines. But he threw off his back foot, which lofted the ball, and he ended up badly underthrowing Stevie and it turned into an interception. It was a quick decision from inside the pocket, but because his mechanics and arm strength don’t allow him to quickly plant and heave he didn’t make the throw.
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Agreed. I remember more than one throw like this when the pocket wasn’t collapsing.
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by thefourwinds on Jan 12, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
This is one of the worst assessments of Fitzpatrick and our offense... ever
Fitzpatrick does have bad mechanics, which is why he’s not a terribly accurate thrower. He continually underthrows deep routes, overthrows posts, and is off on his geometric short routes. All of that said, he still makes a lot of good enough throws and Gailey’s offense has A LOT of easy throws, which is why Fitz’s completion percentage is so high, and is exactly why the offense is designed to limit INTs. Great example is Tim Tebow, he completed over 65% of his passes in college and is now under 50% in the pros. The INT’s are multifaceted, there are a multitude of reasons for them: inaccuracy, miscommunications with new receivers, receivers not fighting for the ball, and lastly poor decision-making. Good news is that Fitz doesn’t misread the defense very often. He takes chances, during that losing streak he had to. I believe that Fitzpatrick will continue to improve as he gains more experience being “the guy” and gains more time in the SAME offense.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
this raises an interesting question…if this guy comes in, does that signal that Buffalo’s next developmental QB is going to be someone in the Cam Newton/RGIII mold? If so, who knows who the best prospects are past the first round in that mold?
I assume we would not be looking at RGIII unless he fell to 10..which I would bet my first born on wouldn’t happen.
I have no clue but the kid from wisconcin is mobile but he is really small.
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by matthew62 on Jan 12, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Make Lee our offensive coordinator. The guy made matt moore look like a legit nfl starting qb.
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by chaucer on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He wasn't in
Miami at that time
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It's amazing wildcat is mentioned and people start flippin out
Do you really think the guy got this far just by running the wildcat? Come on panicking bills fans, breathe. If buddy and chan have showed us one thing, it’s their not dumb.
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by sketchydave on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Thank you.
It’s amazing wildcat is mentioned and people start flippin out
Apparently coaches only know one thing these days.
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Im more worried
about Hennes career arc then I am his wildcat involvememnt
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Is it possible that Henne just isn’t all that great?
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 12, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
beyond possibility into the realm of certainty
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Funny how people remember his work with Henne and Wildcat but forget about Pennington (classic pocket QB).
Well Pennington
was established as a successful pro before he ever came under Lee’s tutelage. So, thats why I perhaps discount his work with pennington a little.
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He obviously is not was not in the NFL solely because of the Wildcat
It was just an idea he came up with. Obviously to make it to the position of QB coach in the NFL, you cant just be a gimmicky guy.
Even the Wildcat thing I see as a positive. When the Wildcat was first created, it worked REALLY well. Then the league caught up to it. His idea to implement it very successfully in Miami undoubtably was creative and certainly a good idea at the time for Miami. It caught defenses off balance and helped the team when it was first implemented. He wasn’t responsible for the league over doing it to the point where now defenses have caught up. Why wouldn’t we want a guy who has creative thought and unique ideas with experience working as a QB coach? I like this hire.
One thing I have to say is no coach alive today invented the wildcat. It is a very old old.old school offense that came back into use. There where all these jokes bout when the dolphins beat the pats with it. About how hoodie man could not figure out how to stop a offense from.footballs earliest years. He was suppose to be a defensive mastermind.
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by matthew62 on Jan 12, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The reason the wildcat worked
so well early on is teams actually believed there was a chance you would throw from it. But now, defenses have kinda figured out no coach is willing to have their running back throw more than 1% of the wildcat snaps and one of the receivers you have to cover is a friggin QB! I mean, cmon. Tim Tebow and Cam Newton are really the only 2 QB’s who can run the wildcat because their teams have a 250 lb cat that can thrown the ball and run. I’m still a little shocked Chan Gailey didn’t do everything he could to land Tim Tebow, he’s an unbelievable fit for just about every facet of Buffalo’s offense.
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Perfect fit, decent arm, very little mistakes, successful resume, and he can run
Lee
Does this mean more of Brad Smith at QB?
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