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State Of The Buffalo Bills Roster: Biggest Offensive Need?

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In the two-plus weeks since the 2011 regular season ended, we've been conducting our annual State of the Buffalo Bills Roster series, in which we go over the Bills' personnel player by player and position by position.

We finished up reviewing the offense this morning, so after the jump, we've reviewed the positional outlooks in each area. Give them a re-read, put on your thinking caps, and then cast a vote in our poll (also after the jump) as we try to determine what the Bills' biggest positional need on offense is.

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Quarterback: As long as Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey are here, Ryan Fitzpatrick is a lock to be involved in some fashion after the massive contract he signed. Again, that's just for the foreseeable future, because it's hard to imagine that the decision-making duo sees a quarterback on the verge of 30 as up-and-down as Fitzpatrick as the long-term starter. They clearly like him, though. They also seem to like Tyler Thigpen, and with two years remaining on his deal as Fitzpatrick's well-paid backup, the team appears set in the short-term at the position.

Running Back: The Bills have two very good running backs in Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller, and it's on Gailey to figure out how to milk production out of both of them simultaneously. It's also on Gailey to figure out how to effectively use both not just as runners, but as receivers. This position is one where the Bills are very talented and more than sufficiently deep, but if Gailey's offense can only use one back at a time, does that really matter?

Wide Receiver: The Bills want Stevie Johnson back, and if they're able to accomplish that, they also want to give him help in the form of a true counterpart that can make plays when covered and keep defenses from rolling coverage Johnson's way. From there, they have prospects that they'll continue to try to develop (Donald Jones and Marcus Easley), a reliable role player (David Nelson), a guy potentially worth bringing back to compete (Derek Hagan), and the need for more explosive athletes as competition for the remaining incumbents.

Tight End: Scott Chandler made this position sporadically relevant again, which is why it's not surprising that the team wants him back. He fits into Gailey's offense as a secondary possession threat and a problem matchup in the red zone, but that's about the extent of his involvement in an ideal world. From there, the team's goals seem to be to find blockers and project receivers that they can try to mold into something better than what Chandler offers. For a position largely ignored, that's about as good as it's going to get on the scouting front.

Offensive Tackle: Between the two tackle positions, the Bills have stability on the right side in Erik Pears, and they have a budding competition on the left side, assuming Demetrius Bell is re-signed. That's a scary prospect for the latter half of that equation; Bell's a huge injury liability and may not even be back, while Chris Hairston's in-season regression shouldn't make the team eager to hand him any sort of prominent job. With that in mind, the team could always stand to try to upgrade its depth at the position, as well, so expect at least one new face - two if Bell leaves - to provide more competition, specifically for Sam Young.

Guard/Center: Between Andy Levitre, Eric Wood, Kraig Urbik and Chad Rinehart, the Bills have four capable players. All are roughly the same age and fairly interchangeable; all four can play guard, and Wood and Urbik can reliably play center. Even though none of these players are true studs, that's an enviable depth situation - and now that the center depth chart has been resolved, the only hurdles are health and consistency. Levitre, Wood and Urbik will be penciled in as starters, and if they can finally stay healthy, they could turn out to be a very good interior trio.

Poll
What is the Buffalo Bills' biggest positional need on offense?
QB
210 votes
RB
4 votes
WR
1099 votes
TE
110 votes
OT
453 votes
G/C
14 votes

1890 votes | Poll has closed

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Tight End

See Gronkowski, Davis, etc.

GO BLUE!!!

by Kumario! on Jan 16, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, a dominant tight end

by LetsGoBflo on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

WR

We need to re-sign Stevie and go and spend the $$$ in free agency to get a guy like Bowe, V Jackson or Colston. Perhaps we can find a capable OT in the draft (1st or 2nd rd), and I like the idea of having 2 elite RB’s and WR’s.

by Buffalo Jim on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Is Bowe going to be available?

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

this

"Live a life, worthy of their sacrifice"

by teq on Jan 16, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

agree QB

What good are Stevie, another top flight receiver and a TE, if the QB can’t throw the ball with enough consistency to make them matter? Plus, you run the risk of frustrating the WRs. They are largely a high strung group to begin with…without them being disgruntled, too.

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by fansince60 on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree. Let’s not forget that Fitzpatrick had a very luxurious season in terms of late-season weather. I fear what his passes will look like when the wind and snow are stuccoing the stadium.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

QB my answer also. Watching Brees and Brady lay it in perfectly down the field as often as they do, and as easy as they make it look, immediately makes me think of Fitz’s inability to make the necessary throws, as evidenced plentifully this season. Even when he and the team were doing well, I think you would see there was still a lack of touch and accuracy, and he was fortunate in some situations, until the bounces starting going against him. I love Fitz, I just don’t think he’ll ever be remotely close to a franchise QB. That said, I don’t know that there is a viable option this year that improves us at the position.
Also, I’m not convinced that Gailey and Nix like Thigpen that much after seeing him consistently underwhelm. I think if we do make a QB move this offseason, Thiggy is cut with 2 years left, and Brad remains our emergency QB/free roster spot.

by BuffaloRepresent on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody who has ever watched Thigpen play should be underwhelmed. The only reasons why he is here are because he is a veteran and he has played under Gailey previously. Sadly, it doesn’t look like there will be a good option in round one with Barkley and Jones returning to college, and Tannehill seems like way too much of a risk for Nix to take at #10. If there is another run on quarterbacks like there was last year, then even the second round looks doubtful. There should still be some good options in rounds three and four, but these are guys that will take longer to develop, and we will be stuck with Fitzpatrick for at least another year unless he gets injured.

by SiriusRed on Jan 16, 2012 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thigpen is here because of networking. Gailey wasn’t going to bring in some random backup QB he’d never worked with.

Thigpen better not be counted on to be anything as a starter down the road.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Short term is WR and TE

Long term is QB

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

Nicely put

Another way to phrase that is to say that QB is the top priority if a really good developmental prospect is available when the Bills pick in either the first or second round. Otherwise, WR, but most likely after addressing the pass rush in the first round.

by Macktruck on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they should not have a lot to think about with the 10th pick

unless someone like Blackmon were to somehow fall.

A top WR in FA makes Fitz better now. But they must always be open to a QB that could be the answer. And i do believe they have been, just nothing has worked out. Forcing a QB just to replace what you have can be just as bad.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

I hate that I love Buffalo.

by bflo on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate that i love Buffalo as well...

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha,

it just felt right

I hate that I love Buffalo.

by bflo on Jan 16, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

This effectively sums up my feelings on the matter.

Go Buffalo Bills, Utah Jazz, and Arkansas Razorbacks

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by Dyl on Jan 17, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Drew Brees is a FA – if Nix truly has no limit on what he can spend to the cap (and there’s plenty o’ room) offer Brees 25 mil a year and give him his own island in the Niagara River. Heck give him Grand Island. It would be worth it.
I’m being sarcastic of course, since he’ll resign with NO of course, but one can dream. I wonder if Lindell would give up his number 9….

by BuffaloRepresent on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Brees 50 million a year and I bet he leaves the Bayou.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well now I know what I am doing this summer.

You are now Watching The Throne.

by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Chasing dollar bills?

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 17, 2012 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure why, but I always pictured you as a guy with a shaved head.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take that as a compliment

:)

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

im not sure how anyone could disagree with this post. we have had good to great wr’s come through, as well as OT’s and rb’s and g’s and everything else, and still have not made the playoffs.

until this team wakse up and figures out it needs a legit qb for the future we will be mired in the same crap we have had.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional. - Buffalo Bills Mantra

by silverstreak3k on Jan 16, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I am not totally down on Fitz,

but if this team had a top 10 franchise QB we’d be much better. Also, another huge need is backup QB. If Fitz goes down, I don’t believe we’d win ANY games under Thigpen.

by loupiccone on Jan 16, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont thin anyone dissagrees QB is ultimatly the #1 need,

but it is difficult to fill.

Where is a QB that Nix has passed on that you would take right now over Darius or someone else we picked ahead of a QB?

They know we need 1, But if you look at all of the top QB’s or better QB’s better than Fitz, we have not had an oppertunity to get them.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I could rec this more than once

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree... sort of...

The truth is, Fitz is still an unknown. We really don’t know how he’ll perform in the passing game next year. Yup, he makes errant throws every now and again, but I’ll bet you his accuracy goes up if the carousel at receiver goes down. It’s really hard to plug guys into complex NFL offenses and expect the timing and chemistry to be there. The important thing with Fitzpatrick is that he sees the field and makes the right reads most of the time. The more time he spends with the same receivers in the same offense the better the machine will run. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, and Ben Roethlesberger all have something in common: they’ve run the same offense for at least the past 5 years (or more). Think about it. It’s like anything else in this world, the longer you do something, the better you’re gonna get at it. Fitzpatrick has been a starter running the Chan’s system for 29 games. Don’t be surprised if Fitz makes a quantum leap next season. For God’s sake, he threw for almost 4,000 yards, 20+ TD’s, and completed over 60% of his passes to the likes of Stevie Johnson and… (crickets).

The part I do agree with is there should always be a QB being developed on the roster. A high potential player: I like our chances for guys like Ryan Tannehill in Round 2 or Nick Foles in Round 3.

"I don't agree with a damn thing you say, but I would die for your right to say it."

"If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it all over again."

by ForeignArrow on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, and Ben Roethlesberger all have something in common

But another thing they’ve all got in common (or at least mostly have in common) is instant success. Brees was a star his first year in New Orleans and did it with a rookie Colston, Reggie Bush and a bunch of bums. He didn’t need three years to adjust. Romo hasn’t improved statistically throughout his career. He had instant success, the names on the backs of the jerseys around him have mostly changed, but his numbers havn’t. Same for Roethlisberger. Rivers and Peyton Manning threw a bunch of INTs in their first years as starters, but were otherwise great statistically.

Fitzpatrick has been a starter running the Chan’s system for 29 games

And the problem is that he hasn’t actually gotten any better at it.


For God’s sake, he threw for almost 4,000 yards, 20+ TD’s, and completed over 60% of his passes to the likes of Stevie Johnson and… (crickets).

Is 3800 yards impressive when you have one of the highest amount of attempts and one of the lower yards per attempt numbers in the league? TDs and yards are a volume stat. Anybody who throws 550 passes is going to end up with lots of yards and TDs. And 60% completions isn’t tough when you’re throwing so many short passes and have one of the lowest yards per completion numbers in the league.

I don’t see where Fitz has room for anything other than modest statistical improvement other than cutting down on his INTs. If he could just a little more consistent throwing down the field and bump his yards per attempt number up into the low 7s and, along with some defensive improvement, his INT number comes down closer to 10, then he’ll be a rock solid QB. But at this point in his career, it’s very unlikely that we’ll see anymore improvement than that.

"You mean @TWHITNER. It’s how he prefers to be referenced." - Jon Harrington

by kaisertown on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Are you ignoring his first five years?
Brees was a star his first year in New Orleans and did it with a rookie Colston, Reggie Bush and a bunch of bums

Brees didn’t look so good in San Diego….but when he changed teams and into a different system he seemed to excel. Not saying Fitz can pull a Brees but maybe The Bills can start to play more towards Fitz’s strengths like Payton did with Brees

Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.

by christopher.j on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Brees didn’t play as a rookie, had a fairly decent first season which he followed with a terrible year and then broke out the next year. Brees is a solid example of a young QB developing. Drew Brees is still a good example of a QB who didn’t need time to develop chemistry in New Orleans and he was a burgeoning star 1,000 passes into his career. Drew Brees was a Pro Bowl QB before he left San Diego. There really isn’t any reason to look at Brees’ career and find hope for FItz from it.

"You mean @TWHITNER. It’s how he prefers to be referenced." - Jon Harrington

by kaisertown on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Fitz is not an unknown

We know exactly what type of play he is, what his deficiencies are and can reasonably project his play next season. At this point, I find it highly unlikely (to be nice) that he’ll be anything more than he’s already been. He’s not elite, he’s not great and he’s only good at times.

~K
"As the governor of Louisiana once said, the only way Chris Kelsay can lose his job is if he got caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy."

by Kurupt on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS ^^^^^^^

could not agree more. It would be nice to have a QB who can throw the ball accurately more than 10 yards down the field. Heck even on his short passes, he is not very consistent. I agree with K. The team does in fact have a limited ceiling with Fitz at the helm.

by MarkyMarkO on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

No one can argue with that but let’s please not overlook the significant value in limiting the floor.

by Leo Crow on Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I Can!

I hope it’s hyperbole, but 10 yards is nonsense!

by mikeo76 on Jan 16, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet 9ers fans are not complaining about Smith

and if i had the 9ers D and an option of Smith or Fitz, i would take Fitz.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

^^^^Can't agree with you more^^^

Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.

by christopher.j on Jan 16, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s hard to imagine that the decision-making duo sees a quarterback on the verge of 30 as up-and-down as Fitzpatrick as the long-term starter

Define long term? Thirty really isn’t old for a quarterback. I would say he is entering his prime so it’s not really that hard to imagine.
He could play out his contract if things go positive.
Glaring holes are wide receiver talent and o-line depth. Tight end and developmental/franchise QB would be a bonus.

by eriesimmer on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

You can say

he is entering his prime, but that does not make it so. Most athletes reach their physical and performance prime in their age 27 season. The chance of Fitz improving are definitely lower than him getting worse and or injured. There is a major talent void at WR and TE. I am not a Fitz fan by any means but even as productive as Stevie is, his athleticism/talent is not great. Donald Jones, Hagan, Roosevelt, aren’t NFL wide receivers above 5th-6th roster depth. Parish and Nelson are fringe players who are more niche type players. They need major improvements across the board in this department. Its one area that the team has invested very little resources over the past 10 years (?). One 1st rounder, one 2nd rounder. No above average FA’s brought in.

by J09 on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Most athletes reach their physical and performance prime in their age 27 season.

Whoa, what?

Editor-in-Chief, BUFFALO RUMBLINGS®

by Brian Galliford on Jan 16, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This stat may be from the Kinsey report.

by BuffaloRepresent on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I have actually read that, but that was in regard to baseball players, not football players. I don’t know if athletes in the two sports are equal. Baseball stars hit the minor leagues right out of high school and, other than possible issues with mechanics, do not have a big learning curve ahead of them when they reach the major leagues.

by SiriusRed on Jan 16, 2012 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Baseball players rarely come in when they’re drafted and make the major league team the following season. Football players are expected to contribute immediately if they’re drafted high and if they don’t contribute by year 3 then they’re usually gone. CJ Spiller would be way ahead of schedule for MLB standards. There will always be guys like Pujols, Arod, and Strasburg but they’re the exceptions in that they can play in the majors without years in the minors. I think that report holds true for every position in the NFL but kickers and quarterback. You’re supposedly at your physical prime from 26 to 28, then the body starts to wear down, especially in a sport like football.

GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!

by hoosier3 on Jan 16, 2012 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

High round baseball picks often go straight from high school to the minors, and they should be making the big leagues within a few years by which point they should be regulars in their young 20s. Baseball players who go to college first are generally frowned upon because they will still spend a year or two in the minors once they leave college, so they will be in their upper 20s by the time they reach the majors.

Football players go to college for 3-5 years before they go to the NFL, so they are usually around 23 or 24 in their rookie season, and then it still might take them a few years until they become a starter. QBs, having such a high learning curve once they reach the NFL, don’t peak at 27. Jim Kelly didn’t even reach his first Super Bowl until he was 30.

by SiriusRed on Jan 16, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Anchorman

80% of the time it works everytime!!

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by lonestar_ak on Jan 16, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

stings the nostrils...

in a good way

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by panekattack on Jan 16, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha, every gymnast ever would like to have a word with you.

by Leo Crow on Jan 16, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

MId-20's

In baseball and basketball this is very true and plenty of research has been done on this subject with objective analysis. Most of the analysis revolves around physical performance and athleticism. Here is a quick link about some football numbers more or less confirming what I wrote about physical ability. The peak performance for RB’s and QB’s is in mid-20’s (a little earlier for RB’s and more sustained for QB’s). While WR’s are able to sustain a little longer. My point remains that FItz is not entering his prime physically. He is exiting it. And therefore his chance for improving, I think, is outweighed by his chances of getting worse.

by J09 on Jan 16, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets See

Two years in a row with 1000 yards(something that NO Bills receiver has ever done).

Did you see him own Reevis, the consensus best corner in the AFC?

Let’s give the devil his due. Steve Johnson is a top tier wide out, period!

by mikeo76 on Jan 16, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

In order of need...

1. QB of the future. Fitzpatrick barely qualifies as the QB of the present, and Thigpen is neither the future nor the present. Brad Smith shouldn’t even count here.

2. A #2 WR, or maybe even a #1 WR if a true stud is available to push Stevie to #2. Should we fail to re-sign Stevie, this priority becomes two receivers — and a lot more urgent. However, the status of Marcus Easley continues to make this priority a bit of a mystery. Maybe we already have the solution to this problem, but we won’t know until he can actually take the field for a regular season game.

3. A pass catching TE. We haven’t had a good one in ages, nor have we had a coaching staff who knows what to do with one. Other teams around the league are taking advantage with guys who can create mismatches when covered by a safety or linebacker. Meanwhile, the Bills don’t even design or run plays with a TE in mind, and they are almost always used as blockers or a checkdown option.

4. OT. Not at all urgent unless they fail to re-sign Bell. In that case, it would open up a need in the draft.

5. Interior line. We are set here unless some of our RFAs get away. We have some semblance of depth emerging, so still not a draft priority if they lose one or two.

6. RB. Given Gailey’s inability to balance the workload for two running backs, we may have a problem with too much depth. Also, the more carries Spiller gets, Fred Jackson’s happiness will probably decrease. If they ever consider moving a player to get more draft picks, Fred Jackson may be that guy. His value probably won’t ever be as high as it is right now. The big question is who might be a taker.

by SiriusRed on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions   3 recs

Since I agree Thigpen is neither the future nor the present, I hope that means he’ll be the past!

by BuffaloRepresent on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It shouldn’t matter. They better not be planning on counting on him for anything as a starter. He needs to be a depth player who can hand the ball off if needed.

If they need him to run a pro offense, it’s losing time.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, I wish I could rec this more than once

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 16, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough choice...

A developmental QB is a must, not a 7th rounder. Getting a Brady in the 6th round is as likely as Nix winning the lottery.

I’m going with a dominant OT, the line has become solid. A truly dominant player would be the final piece of the puzzle to finally putting an outstanding offensive line together. The Bills offense then would have an identity, with a great O-line an offense can do so much damage and control the clock~helps both sides of the ball.

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by Goose22 on Jan 16, 2012 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

It's always QB

when you don’t have one that gives you a chance to win a championship.

by As Smart as I Look on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Everyone seems to think QB's grow on trees

Look, we can beat this issue to death, but reality is that Fitz is our long term QB for now and for the forseeable future. So sayin QB is our biggest need, I feel is a mutepoint. This team badly needs an upgrade over it’s #2 and #3 options in the pass game. When we had a hot start David Nelson was averaging almost 80yds/game, when teams cued in on the slot our offense went stagnent for like 4 games and well im sure everyone on this sight knows how the rest of the season went. David played a big role but we need upgrades, we need a #2 that can win 1 on 1 matchups, we need a slot WR that understands zones and where to sit in those zones.

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by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 16, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Fitz is definitely our QB for the immediate future. I don’t think anyone doesn’t think that. I, for one, am fine with that. The offense as a whole should improve next season with some continuity and hopefully better playcalling.

That being said, as long as you don’t have your QB of the future, or franchise QB, or Super Bowl QB, or whatever you want to call him, it is you biggest need, period. If there is one when we pick, Nix should pull the trigger. If he isn’t there, then go after someone else who can help our team out significantly.

There are not, at least in my view, two camps of thought on this. If you don’t have a franchise QB but have the opportunity to get one, then it doesn’t really seem to me that there should be a choice there. The argument happens in whether you think Fitz is the franchise guy or not. I can see people saying he is, that’s fine, I disagree with that stance but if Nix thinks so and drafts for that, then so be it.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not everyone...

If we think our QB play is below average now, sticking with the status quo is going to leave the Bills in a very bad situation in a few years. I would definitely like to see the Bills grab a QB prospect in the draft, but I feel am being very realistic in saying that there won’t be anybody the Bills like at #10, and chances are slim for the second round. Luck and Griffin will almost certainly be gone, and Tannehill is too big of a risk for Nix to take him. His QB experience is too limited, and he’s going to miss the Senior Bowl and the combine. In the second round, Nick Foles would be nice, but he might go late in the first round, and the Bills might still want to grab a defensive player.

However, this is not to say that there aren’t good options later in the draft. There are several project QBs who should go in the middle rounds, and the Bills might still be able to find a diamond in the rough and coach him up. I’m hoping the Bills can grab Case Keenum in round 3 or 4, but we’ll see how it goes.

by SiriusRed on Jan 16, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Paully do you go to every game?

by As Smart as I Look on Jan 16, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

I watch every game. Everygame that isn’t blacked out.

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" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover

by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Was gonna say a speed receiver but fitz cant hit him

So i am saying nix needs to find a qb with a cannon arm cut thigpen and make smith the number 2 receiver

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks OT?

Bell is a great RT, but not an LT on any other team outside of Chicago. And Kraig Urbik/Eric Pears? These are joke names, right? Chan Gailey put these names on the roster to get a chuckle out of fans, right? We’re starting back-ups, and our back-ups are other teams’ practice squad equivalents.

Past that, a WR who doesn’t drop open passes might make our C+ QB seem a little less close to failure.

by Ian MacPersonoid on Jan 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

totally disagree on your assessment of the OL

Erik Pears was just signed to a 3 year deal and is a very good RT. Kraig Urbik is a good starting RG and needs to be resigned as he is a RFA. Hairston is being developed into a starting LT, but idk if he is there yet. Bell will probably be let go, unless we can re sign him cheap, which i think we should. Nix said we need to draft one, but not the biggest need on offense. We will probably take one in the early-mid round this year.

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

we had the least sacks allowed and a great yards per carry average.

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But on a breakdown of runs to each side, we see the most negative plays on our o-line coming from both tackle positions. Also considering how in the first half of the season, we gave up next to no sacks, and later on let the floodgates go, we neeeeeeeeeeeeed o-line talent and depth, especially at the OT positions.

by Ian MacPersonoid on Jan 16, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I think Hairston will eventually overtake Pears for the starting RT spot. and maybe the BPA in the 1st is a Riley Reiff or Martin and we take them to be the starting LT. Wouldn’t be a bad move, but I don’t see it happening. Maybe in the second or third we take one.

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

How Can You Even Think That?

The Bills gave up the fewest sacks in the entire NFL.

Freddy was averaging 5.8 YPC before he got hurt.

What is the basis for your criticism?

by mikeo76 on Jan 16, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't speak for Mr. MacPersonoid...

…but Bell is an FA (that is to say we don’t know if he’ll be back) and Hairston got exposed the last few weeks of the season. Even then, Bell had injuries and if a top-notch OT is there in the draft, I would be hard pressed not to take him if I were Nix. Hairston’s better position is probably at RT anyway.

Pears has been decent, but I can definitely envision a better RT. He could very well be a swing G/T in the future. Urbik, I thought, did a surprisingly good job this year.

What I don’t share is his derision for the OL in general. That said, I think Gailey put the OL in a very favorable position at the beginning of the year and in a lot of other schemes, we wouldn’t be seeing these types of results with these players.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No
Am I the only one who thinks OT?

There are many of us that feel the same about drafting a OT. Read other posts….

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

While I think we need an elite WR more

I would choose to upgrade at LT first, especially since top players at that position are so much more difficult to find, and a lot more elite receivers (see Stevie, Colston) emerge from the later rounds than at other positions.

The Bills line is OK, and have done all that is asked of them. However in order to make strides towards having an attack that can do much more than just quick passing to ‘set up the run’, we still need a big upgrade in pass protection, and more ability to dominate at the point of attack.

by NoiseIsTheBestRevenge on Jan 16, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

I still say QB.

Fitz still throws a ball that takes off like a wild pitch,about every 5 throws,and still has no touch on passes that need it..Maybe the QB Coach can fix that,but I’d need to see it to believe it..Granted receivers drop a lot of His passes but they might snag onto a lot more of those if they weren’t fully extended and getting ready to be crushed when they jump up for them..I still see Fitz starting for us for as long as Nix wants Him to,but the obvious flaws are still there and if they can’t be coached out,we need a real Franchise QB..

by 3nOutNoMore on Jan 16, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

Surprisingly, I went TE.

I still think QB is their biggest offensive need because the QB is the biggest difference-maker. But your commentary on the situation is depressing and convincing enough that it’s not worth begging they draft one of prominent significance.

At this point, I can only look forward to a new regime’s tenure for that eventual QB wish.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

OL

I put my vote there. Bell is an injury waiting to happen and Harrison is a question mark. Depth here is needed. Truth be told, I don’t think anywhere is a NEED, as much as a want. It seems we are in a good position offensively…better than I can remember in a long time.

I vote WR at #2, but even there we have some good potential with what we have assuming Stevie comes back.

In the end, I think you try to sign an experienced LT vs drafting one so that there is less need for development timeline. I say let Bell walk if someone else is interested and invest in someone high quality.

Use the draft to find a playmaker at WR and tE. But be okay waiting. This draft should once again be about defense for the first 2 days.

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by OverdueBillsFan on Jan 16, 2012 4:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Btw

What high quality LTs are free agents next year? Anyone know?

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by OverdueBillsFan on Jan 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

None

I’ve seen Bell rated as the highest. After the draft a below average 33 year old may be available.

by GPSjr on Jan 16, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

QB

That’s an easy one. I don’t believe Ryan Fitzpatrick could ever lead a team to a championship, so until this franchise has someone that can, they’ll always be losers to me. I like Fitzpatrick. I’m glad they have him under contract as I think he’s a legitimate “bridge” QB that can keep an offense interesting while a prospect is developed. The immensely untalented, timid, inefficient, and pathetic Trent Edwards was not even watchable. Fitzpatrick is a HUGE step up from those days. But until this team seriously attempts to add a franchise signal caller, they’re building to be respectable rather than win a championship. That’s a lame goal.

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by Port Royal on Jan 16, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

You know...

the Bills need a “franchise” pass rusher more than a QB right now.

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by ForeignArrow on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The article only asked about the biggest need on offense. Pass rush is definitely the biggest defensive need. However, if either Luck or Griffin were available at #10, I would grab him without hesitation. The QB is more likely to be a difference maker in a game than a DE or OLB.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

WR assuming we keep Bell. If we lose Bell then OT

I agree that we need an upgrade at QB too, but to me Fitz is servicable. WR is not, and if we lose Bell then Hairston starting at LT with no backup is a disaster waiting to happen.

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by lonestar_ak on Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Not exactly

That’s a pretty big if not 1 but both guys go down with an injury. Also I think Levitre proved to be at least capable at LT in a worst case scenario situation where both players go down with Rinehart and Urbik playing well at the guard positions. So unless we lose Bell in F.A. I think the LT situation is okay.

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by panekattack on Jan 16, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant if we lost Bell during FA. Sorry for not writing that clearer

Going into the season with Hairston as our starting LT with only Levitre with a backup is not a sufficient plan IMO.

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by lonestar_ak on Jan 16, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree then

I believe that if they do let Bell walk they would bring in at least a serviceable vet or draft a guy within the first 3 rounds.

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by panekattack on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted QB
if we lose Bell then Hairston starting at LT with no backup is a disaster waiting to happen.

If we lose Fitz, we have no back-up and is a disaster waiting to happen.

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by blknites on Jan 16, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

A Question for those that say QB

Would you consider Kyle Orton an upgrade at the position?

by Whatever on Jan 16, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

this is why it is easier to say we need one that get one.

Put Fitz in the 9ers and they are are the same team or better.

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by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all. That’s not true whatsoever. Smith is a rhythmic, accurate QB who is built for the 49ers offense. Fitzpatrick is an erratic gunslinger. He would be an absolute mismatch in San Fran’s offense.

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by Port Royal on Jan 16, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

you woukd have never

Said that about smith untill this year. His stats were very similar to Fitz this year minus the interceptions. And I blame that on our d and us always playing from behind.

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by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Alex Smith has tenfold more upside that Fitz.

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by howedyhowe on Jan 16, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

tenfold?

he has had one good season and it was barely better than Fitz

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by billsoferie on Jan 16, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Upside

He has the physical abilities to be better than Fitz. I’m not talking about how they have played up to this point?

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by howedyhowe on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OR

What about one time Pro bowl selection Derek Anderson?

by Whatever on Jan 16, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No, much the same. Maybe a bit of a stronger arm, and a high win percentage in his time, but still not a SB QB, in my opinion.

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by stetzwebs on Jan 16, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Better question

Would you consider Jason Campbell an upgrade?

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by mob16151 on Jan 16, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No

I would call Fitzpatrick and Orton roughly equal. Orton would be a huge upgrade over Thigpen, though. Thigpen shouldn’t be more than a third-string clipboard holder.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I would say QB, but then you’d still have the problem of who would the new guy throw the ball to. Outside of Stevie, I still really don’t see a guy on this roster right now who can consistently create separation or get open.

by Schrims on Jan 16, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

QB Next year

Next year’s QB class should be killer, even if we pick later, the 5th QB selected in 2013 will probably be a better prospect than the 3rd in 2012.

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by Whatever on Jan 16, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

They said that last year about this year’s QBs…

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by stetzwebs on Jan 16, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly!!! You can keep saying well next year will be have better prospects, or just do it.

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by howedyhowe on Jan 16, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

QB all the way.

We aren’t winning a playoff game as long as Fitz is our QB, I don’t care how much talent you give him to work with, It’s kinda like Flutie, once his weaknesses were exposed, it was all over. The Fitzpatrick code has been cracked and he has been exposed.

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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 16, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i will meet you anywhere and make a fat bet he will

Let me know when and where.

I bet Fitz will win a playoff game.

How much?

How much you wanna bet?

by simonpure on Jan 17, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

QB

Here is my argument for QB:
Look at the playoffs: Roethisberger, Brady, Brees, Eli Manning, have all had success this year or in recent years. Alex Smith is a first overall selection that has some tools and has proved that the right system made him good.

Tim Tebow has leadership qualities but he can’t go through progressions, he gets sacked too much, and he can’t make the throws- until it gets to crunch time. He beat the Steelers because they played him as if he were a high school QB. He properly got owned.

At any rate, yes, having elite receivers helps out anyone, but the best QB can make mediocre receivers look great- not as much vice-versa.

This season has proved how much this league is quarterback driven. There were monster seasons all around.

Maybe I gave nothing specific against fitzpatrick, but he has some pretty good, a lot of mediocre and too much really bad in his game. He will probably make a fine coach, but I don’t see him ever bringing this team into the playoffs. (Yes we need a better defense and pass-rush, too, but my point is fitz is too limited)

The only way you get by with a quarterback like fitzpatrick is having a top 3 defense. That isn’t gonna happen anytime soon.

by JMP on Jan 16, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Quarterback

Plenty of good reasons on this thread and on others that I won’t recount here.

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 16, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

I think it’s WR but I voted OT. If they think Hairston is the guy, cool. Get a depth option with experience a la Demetrius Bell. If they think he’s not, draft one of those studs at 10. They need one strong WR opposite Stevie. They might think it’s Easley and that’s fine by me if they re-sign Stevie. Go with Easley, Jones, Hagan and maybe you get lucky that Easley is great or something.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 16, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

OK

so with the 10th pick in the draft, we only need a TE, QB, WR, and OT!!!! That about cover it so far???

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
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by Cinga on Jan 16, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

DE, OLB, CB

forgot about defense :)

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

we were only talking

offense in this thread, but you are probably the only person who understands my post…

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by Cinga on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yea I know

just being facetious

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Look Fitz was the QB of the Buffalo Bills this year

And the Bills finished with 23.2 points a game. Thats 14th in the league. The Bills averaged 351.5 yards a game, also 14th in the league. They averaged 231.4 passing yards a game, 15th in the league. And rushed for 120.1 yards a game, 13th in the league. To me these stats prove a few things.

1. Gailey actually does run the ball enough.

2. Even with all the injuries the offense racked up, the bills were still slightly better than average in the passing game. Not bad for a guy, whom from reading the comments on here, doesn’t have the arm strength or accuracy to complete a handoff.

So why don’t we give Fitz a few more weapons, get everybody back healthy, beef up the D some , and then see what happens. Remember this is a team that was starting Brad Smith at WR this season due to injuries. Fitz probably isn’t the long term answer, simply due to age, but looking at the numbers…………where’s the problem? This team can, and does score points.

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by mob16151 on Jan 16, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

exactly

he can lead us to the playoffs for the short term. and with a better team around him maybe a super bowl. But i still think we need to draft a franchise QB this year or next.

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Biggest Offensive Need

Let me think, hmm, were have no offensive needs! :)

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by buffalobacker on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously

What we need and FO thinks we need are miles apart, that said O/L help, WR,TE in that order.

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by buffalobacker on Jan 16, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No?

did you see Nix’s press conference. Pretty much said that flat out.

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by tomcs on Jan 16, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to stop playing musical chairs

Get a solid OT who we can keep on the roster for 10 + years. This will put Levitre in the G spot where he belongs. While I think the O-line did great this year given the injuries that forced them to adjust, there needs to be consistency and depth to take it to the next level.

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by christopher.j on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

BPA

There is no position on the offense that I think is “completely settled”. The only argument is RB- and that would change the instant Fred were traded. I don’t believe that will happen, unless Buddy Nix is a liar, but, he has deviated from things he has said before, so it isn’t an impossibility.

There is no ONE need that supersedes another on our offense. We need WRs. We need TEs. We need QBs. We can use OL- at any spot. Urbik and Colin Brown and wood played center. Urbik and rinehart and levitre played guard. Bell is likely gone. No one backs up Pears (young? who even knows if he can do anything, we haven’t seen him.) Hairston could be the undisputed LT, and even as a big fan of the kid, I recognize that’s a really bad idea. There is NO offensive need (unless we are settled with Fred) that I would question.

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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 16, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i realize most rate QB higher than any other position

and i don’t really want that argument again: so i will point out that we at least have a known starter here. IF Wood weren’t back, we really don’t have anything but starters on the line, and no depth. So, i will argue that QB is a lesser need, than not being able to field a complete line (which we are basically a single injury away from)

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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 16, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What If...?

What if I told you that the Bills could draft a top wide receiver and an outside linebacker or a top pass rushing prospect and a linebacker (but would have to sign a speed receiver and Stevie Johnson in free agency) and still get a QB who: 1.) played his entire college career in cold weather; 2.) lost only 3 games in his college career; 3.) finished in the top 10 all-time in passing yardage and QB rating in college history; 4.) holds the record for most TD passes in college history; 5.) is the son of a coach and was considered to be “like a coach on the field” by his head coach and many analysts; 6.) was a graduate student his senior year in college; and 7.) was a Heisman Trophy runner-up; in the third or fourth (maybe fifth) round of the draft to develop as a possible franchise QB. Would you go that route and try to solve the Bills’ most immediate needs while, at the same time, attempting to see if you could find that elusive franchise QB later in the draft? Do you think that the Bills should try to do that?

It is possible that the Bills could choose to do that. They could choose to address their immediate needs on defense and at WR and still draft the QB that I described above. His name is Kellen Moore and he should be available in the middle rounds of this draft.

Before you scoff about his size and arm-strength, please consider the following: 1.) while Kellen Moore is short, he’s about the same height as Drew Brees and, in a NFL training program for a year, he could easily fill out some while serving as a back-up to Fitz; 2.) Moore is no dummy and is well aware of his physical short-comings, so he has been getting advice from Drew Brees for the last two years on how to compensate for his lack of height; 3.) while many have questioned Moore’s arm-strength, he had no trouble throwing the deep ball to Titus Young in the wind and cold in Boise and had very few passes picked off during his college career, even by good defenses.

The NFL has become a QB driven league where accuracy, the intelligence to grasp an offense and read defenses, and leadership ability are at a premium. No, Kellen Moore does not have the size or arm strength of Andrew Luck or the running ability, elusiveness and deep accuracy of Robert Griffin III, but he has already shown that he does have those three essential qualities. Additionally, one of the things that Buddy Nix has said that he looks for in a player in the draft is whether that player has been a consistent winner in college—and Kellen Moore certainly has been that.

Moore has the kind of qualities that could make him a franchise QB if he goes to a team with coaches and an offense that will maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses (Chan Gailley is that type of coach). Or he could end up being a bust or just a career back-up. So, there would be a risk in drafting him. BUT: the Bills wouldn’t have to spend a high # 1 draft pick or even their # 2 pick to get him. Depending on how the draft goes, a third or fourth round pick would be all that they would have to spend—and that would make him a lot less of a risk that even, say, what they would have to use to get a Steve Tannehill (who was a much less accomplished QB in college).

While I’d take a look at some of the other second-tier QBs at The Combine, Moore is definitely a guy that I would seriously look at in the middle rounds because as much as the Bills need to look for a franchise quality QB, at this point in time they still have some gaping holes at other positions that are in worse shape than the QB position is with Fitz around.

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by LifetimeBillsFan on Jan 17, 2012 3:27 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with Kellen Moore, I don’t understand why he never gets mentioned all he does is win has great stats, is a natural leader and is intelligent. He should have been in the Heisman running but was over looked for even getting nominated. He would be a steal from the 3rd round on or if there is a run on QB’s a possible surprise 2nd round pick….

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

There is a lot of truth to this. Somebody is going to draft Moore in the middle rounds, and he may darn well pan out and they’ll look like geniuses. Depending on who else might be available, and where, I’d sure take a gamble on him in the 4th. Nice post.

by LeClaire Bill on Jan 17, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Flynn anyone?

Why not go hard after Matt Flynn? I know a large number of people immediately think Rob Johnson, but Flynn could be the answer here. I am not saying that Flynn is or is not a definite elite QB at this point, but he has a lot of potential. Bring in Flynn, dump Thigpen and let Fitz and Flynn fight it out for the starting job. If you think Fitz is the answer, then you have significantly upgraded your back up QB. If Fitz isn’t the answer then you have a potential elite QB in Flynn and a decent back up, which is what Fitz is and always be. Think back to the Super Bowl years when they had Frank Reich backing up Kelly. Reich could come in and maintain until Kelly could get back in the game. You have the potential to have the same thing again. Drafting a late round, or even a first round QB has a significant potential to be a bust, and even if they are not a bust usually takes several years to develop into the QB that compares to Rodgers or Brady. Buffalo doesn’t seem to have the luxury to wait around several years for the right QB to develop.

by popey on Jan 17, 2012 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Flynn is a interesting prospect based on being developed in GB and the show he put on in the last game of the season for the Pack… He will be looking to go to a situation where he can be the starter immediately and it seems that Chan & Nix are locked into Fitz.

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see how overpaying two obvious scrubs at QB means that we’re “set in the short term at the position”!

by NCbillzfan55 on Jan 17, 2012 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

There's a QB out there who was 353 of 569 this year.

He completed 62% of his throws, for 3,832 yards. He threw for 24 TDs and 23 INTs. That’s Ryan Fitzpatrick, ladies and gentlemen! Replacing that kind of production is not our NUMBER 1 offensive need!

Stevie had 76 catches for 1004 yards. David Nelson had 61 catches in the slot for 658 yards. The next WR was Brad Smith with only 23 catches for 240 yards. Until he has a WR corps that’s worth a hill of beans, Fitz is not the NUMBER 1 offensive need. When Brad Smith and Donald Jones are your No. 2 wide receivers, Fitz is not the NUMBER 1 offensive need.

We all want someone else at QB, but let’s be realistic. Fitz is in the top half of QBs in this league. Let’s get him at least TWO legit threats at WR before we say he’s the problem.

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by Dyl on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

INT's

Will kill a offense. Needs improvemnet on Fitz’s part or its all for naught. IMHO.

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by buffalobacker on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

INTs aren't all a QB's fault, though.

not to mention you did pick out the one negative on that stat listing

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by Dyl on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

1 in 10 say QB

good to see there is still some common sense in bills land.

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Authors

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Moderators

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