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Buffalo Bills' Scott Chandler May Be Difficult To Re-Sign

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In fielding questions from local media early last week, Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix caught some fans off guard when he said that he'd only be interested in re-signing free agent tight end Scott Chandler "at the right price."

As an early indication that Nix knew what he was talking about, the Tennessee Titans signed a free agent tight end of their own - Craig Stevens - to a four-year, $15 million contract last Friday. Stevens, a 2008 third-round pick out of California, is known for his blocking, and has caught just 21 passes in his four-year career. In 2011, he caught nine passes for 166 yards and a touchdown.

Chandler is known more for his receiving than his blocking; he's coming off a break-out season of sorts in which he caught 38 passes for 389 yards and six touchdowns. Still, it's fair to say that Chandler is in roughly the same free agent tier as Stevens, though his numbers are an obvious advantage in terms of establishing an asking price.

If roughly $4 million per year is the new market price for a blocking tight end, it's easy to imagine Chandler's asking price eclipsing $5 million annually. (That is obviously just speculation on our part.) At minimum, that could explain Nix's comment last Monday; at maximum, it could make the 26-year-old Chandler difficult to retain.

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I want Chandler to stay...

but I’d rather use that kind of money on building the defense with sure bets and take our chances with a 4th or 5th round pick for tight end.

by flagday84 on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Why not keep someone who’s proven, Chandler, and use the pick for another defensive player?

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by fansince83 on Jan 17, 2012 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Even if Chandler signs elsewhere, they still might not even draft a TE to replace him. They have several tight ends on the roster, and considering how the Bills really don’t use tight ends as anything more than blockers and outlet valves, just about anybody will do.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Kind of amazing that the Bills don't use tight ends for much

but Chandler was 2nd on the team in TD receptions and 3rd on the team in all receptions from non-running backs.

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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i disagree @ Sirius

if no other TE on the team can catch as well .. then why attempt to throw it to him ..

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by khameleon59 on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

New England

With what Gronk and Hernandez have done for their offense, you can see team’s scrambling to sign tight ends that show promise, raising the price for a good te. Chandler is going to cost more than Nix wants to pay.

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by fansince83 on Jan 17, 2012 9:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm getting utterly frustrated

why the Bills can’t retain a young talented guy like this. And all because it might cost 1.5 million more per year. I find it borderline irresponsible to let him walk.

by As Smart as I Look on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

This article is a blend of opinion and speculation, and should be treated as such. :)

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

How many players want to play for an organization that has a greater commitment to the bottom line than to winning? When the Bills were doing well early in the season, the story line was how the roster was filled with rejects and forgotten players. Chandler appears to be neither after last year. One more bad year, and there is going to be yet another management/coaching shakeout.

Assuming the money is equal, how many players are going to sign with the Bills? Not many.

by Rick A on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

What proof do you have the Bills are concerned more bout the bottom line than winning? Teams have to work within the constraints they have, the Bills do not have the luxury of paying every mediocre player $5MM. From what I can see players are very willing to sign with the Bills, Barnett for one. Nix already said they will spend to the cap as all teams have to by 2013.

Assuming the money is equal every player would sign with the Bills.

by mquintieri on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Barnett signed very late in free agency (July 31) when his options appeared limited.

by Rick A on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone signed late in free agency, because there was a lockout.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

My dividing line was before/after training camp start.

by Rick A on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bills started training camp the same day that players could sign free agent deals (July 29). Then, those signed free agents couldn’t practice until the new league year began, which was August 4.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummmmmmmm, 2000-2011. Pretty much all the proof anyone should need.

by blitzboy54 on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Dockery, Walker, Bledsoe....

Does handing out the richest contracts in team histroy, at the time, seem like the paying attention to the bottom line.

What is the recod of the hockey team that has spent the most this year…we should all know the answer to that question.

Again, try not to jump on some stupid quote because the team is losing, it has more to do with coaching, drafting, and talent acuisition (not just overpaying).

by mquintieri on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Evans contract also...

At the time he one on of the highest paid Bills and WRs…

by mquintieri on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s time for some to become a little more open to reality. Because of the Bills history of losing its going to take a lot more than equal money to get some of the top free agents here. And I know many won’t want to hear it but compared to other NFL cities in terms of entertainment and options, Buffalo falls short. Yes some will mention Green Bay but they WIN. We need to overpay first, get some wins and then they will come.

by telka on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I Completely Agree

I feel the same way. If we need to over pay for a few important pieces then we need to do so because were not in a situation where were going to be able to acquire top tier FA’s at market value. However, if we can start winning then we will be able to pay market value, and once we have a history of winning and can prove to the league were contenders we may even be able to acquire these guys by paying less than market value. FA’s want big money or a winning team and right now were not giving them the opportunity for either.

by Shovel51 on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

@Smart as I Look

Chandler is OK. He is not a primary option on offense and to be honest, now that Spiller finally got a chance to show what he can do, Spiller and Freddy will be the outlet guys getting passes Chandler would get. And that’s not to mention the other WR Nix says the Bills want to sign. There are only so many passes to go around. Why overpay Chandler if he’s not going to get the same opportunities. He ain’t Gronkowski, Hernandez or Gates.

by phaze1 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I can understand that viewpoint.

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by blknites on Jan 17, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I agree

with your premise that Spiller and Freddy will receive the passes a tight end would. When we were 5-2 he caught 6 TD’s, you think those red zone TD’s are going to the RB? I’d also argue he is a primary option and should be used even more. Not sure I understand the “There are only so many passes to go around” as if we have so many weapons we can’t overpay for a young talented TE in fear that he’ll get lost in the shuffle of our talent pool.

by As Smart as I Look on Jan 17, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That Titans contract is bizarre. I don’t see where that comes from, but Chandler strikes me as the best receiving threat we could get for the money he’d demand, even if we feel he should come cheaper.

by silvermike on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

If the Bills pay $5 mil for Chandler...

…what would they pay for Stevie?

by BlueFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

More than $5 mil?

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by NolaBillsFan on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Pay the man.

It’s been a long time since the Bills have had a TE who is relevant and has to be accounted for by opposing teams. As much as I want the Bills to re-sign Stevie, I think I would be more upset if they don’t re-sign Chandler. He gives the offense versatility-it’s not like the last decade where the qb either dumps it to the rb, or all of us fans wait for the wr to “go long!”

by Mkas on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

More upset

If they don’t sign Chandler….over not signing Stevie?? WOW. Chandler played pretty well, but he was also a product of the system

by fanick82 on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

If he is a product of the system

then why was he the only TE who had success? Maybe a little extreme on my part to make the Stevie reference, but I think a good TE allows an offense to prosper. What has been the more difficult position to fill in Buffalo: WR or TE?

by Mkas on Jan 17, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

has to be accounted for by opposing teams.

My impression was that Chandler made plays because defenses tended to forget about him… He certainly was not burning guys with speed or outmaneuvering defenders with athleticism. The guy has good hands and catches what’s thrown his way… the guy is a dependable option – but $4-5 Mil worth?

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by oompaloompa on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The perennial problem with the Bills

I could argue that the Bills should re-sign him, but then what? The Bills haven’t used tight ends for anything more than blockers and outlet valves in more than a decade, so how much does it matter? They really don’t seem to be paying any attention to the damage that pass catching tight ends do around the league — especially when they play the Bills. Yes, it was nice to see Chandler get some TDs, but he wasn’t really used as anything more than a red zone target. He was still primarily a blocker, and most of his receptions were dump-offs when the receivers couldn’t get open. You could plug in almost anybody to fill that role.

When you set low goals for a position, they are very easy to hit with anybody you plug into that role.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

If you can plug almost anyone into that role

Why is Chandler the only player who has done any damage? I’ll answer: He’s good.

If tight ends are “easy” to hit, how come it is not happened (for a long time) but all of a sudden there was a surge this year? Chandler.

Forgive me for my annoying approach of asking questions and then answering them myself. The dude is good. He’s not a role player. Who was the last tight end to catch a touchdown in Buffalo before Chandler? I’ve no stats in front of me, but I think it was Nelson in the NE game.

by Mkas on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s better than the rest of the tight ends on the roster, but you can’t catch passes when they aren’t thrown your way. The Bills, for whatever reason, don’t seem to run plays that are designed to throw the ball to the tight end, and this is a trend that has been going on for about a decade now. They did target Chandler in the red zone early in this season, but they inexplicably stopped doing that later in the season. If all you want is a blocking tight end, then they are easily replaceable.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I know David Martin caught one last season,

But I think that was the only td by a tight end for the season.

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by Schwing9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

just to clarify

I’m not saying that Chandler is bad or not worth bringing back. I’m saying that his value isn’t there on an offense that places no premium on a pass catching tight end. I think it should have value, but I’m not part of the offensive coaching staff.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sign him....

It would be a shame to let a young 6’6’ TE with good hands leave so what if his blocking is average. I just watched Vernon Davis, Gronk, Graham, Finley, Ballard and Dickson make major contributions to their teams. The Bills need a pass catching TE and Chandler fills that need…

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Prioritize FA signings

Then sign them.
Easy.

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by NolaBillsFan on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Other Factors to Consider

Let’s add in our runningbacks and QB play into the equation and take a closer look at what Nix is seeing. Scott Chandler did open the eyes of many of us this past season and he is definately not a player off of someone’s scrap pile similiar to Urbik, Rhinehart etc… Still with the potential that Freddy plays every down with and the emergence of C.J. grasping the speed of the NFL game and the decisision making necessary to be a successful RB in the NFL a solid blocking tightend along with a solid receiving TE would be the ultimate goal for a Chan Gailey offense and a GM’s justification for such a big contract. Factoring in what we did use the tight end for may have more to do with the play of the OT. We all watched last season and seen that our Tackles played adequately but how much was credited to the help of the TE in the running game Vs the passing game. I am going to leave this decision up to Buddy and Chan. Scott has opened eyes this past season and would be a pleasant signing but it seems that they may be looking for more and that more may be from an OT that can run block more consistently without the help of the tight end. I just hope if we don’t retain Chandler we replace him with someone better going forward and with a longer contract.

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by VanScottM on Jan 17, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

Too much sense

Whoooooa! Son, you make waaay too much sense! I agree totally. As a matter of fact I was going to make the same points but you did it better. thanks.

by frcorny on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Hate to bring up NE

but you had to believe Bill B. had an idea in mind when he drafted both his TEs in the same draft.
Now, you look at 2011 production(catches/yards/avg. yds. per catch) with Gronk 90/1327/14.7 and Hernandez 79/942/11.5 and you see what that “idea” was. A productive TE (or 2) is a valuable commodity in today’s offenses- also see NO, GB, and SF.
Although Chandler was largely a product of Chan’s short-passing, quick-hit offense and perhaps was an outlet valve, it’s hard to deny his value.
Personally, I think Gailey is wrong to minimize that value in his game plans. Nix, too, is wrong to state he’ll resign him at his (Nix’s) price. Once again, it’s a factor of what the market will bear not what one GM thinks he’s worth.

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by fansince60 on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

The only problem with your comparison is that, other than the position they play, Chandler doesn't compare to the players on those teams.

It’s been nice to have that short yardage, and especially red-zone, target. Chandler just doesn’t have the athletic chops to do what Davis, Finley, Graham, Gronk and Hernandez do.

To me, this is where the problem with his price comes in for the team. He has a very small niche, although important, role to fill. If he was in mold of those other TE’s then I’d agree completely.

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by lonestar_ak on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Starting in 1985...

the Bills began a rebuilding process that had them drafting Bruce Smith, Frank Reich, and Andre Reed. In 1986, Jim Kelly joined the team two years after being drafted. In 1987, the Bills drafted Shane Conlan and Nate Odoms. And in 1988, the Bills drafted Thurman Thomas. If the Bills had let even one of those players walk, the Super Bowl years might have never happened.

When you have talent on your roster, you make sure it stays on your roster. That is how great teams are born.

The Bills may be in a similar rebuild presently. In two Chix drafts, we’ve taken CJ Spiller, Marcell Dareus, and Kelvin Sheppard. We’ve also got talent like Fred Jackson, Stevie Johnson, and Scott Chandler on the roster already. With another draft ahead, and free agent signings promised, the Bills have a shot at greatness. But to achieve it, they can’t lose the talent they already have.

One final note. Starting with the 1985 Draft, the Bills did not reach the Playoffs until 1988, and that was considered an amazingly fast rebuild. Give Chix time to build this team! You will not regret it. I am not promising Super Bowls. I am confident in exciting Bills football for years to come, though. We are on the upswing.

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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rec...

There was also the 3-team trade for Cornelius Bennett in 1987, the drafting of Will Wolford in 1986, the signing of Kent Hull from the USFL, the acquistion of Steve Tasker, and the list goes on and on… Really an amazing run of talent accumulation.

I think your thesis is 100% valid, the only problem is that since free agency began in 1992, the Bills seem to lose talent as fast as they get it. Heck, if there was a way to quantify “talent”, the Bills would probably have the greatest cumulative net loss of talent through free agency of any NFL team in the last 20 years. If free agency was in effect in the mid to late 1980s, those SB teams never would have congealed. Ralph Wilson will not pay for top talent. I recall holdouts by Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett during training camp. Heck, we nearly lost Bruce prior to thee 1989 season to the Denver Broncos. The only way we kept those guys is because Ralph didn’t have to pay top dollar. In today’s environment, half the core of those SB teams would have walked out the door before we even got to the first SB.

With the way money is managed at OBD, I think the only hope for a contender is for the Bills to strike gold in the NFL Draft for 3-4 consecutive seasons. Maybe sign a few key guys (like a franchise QB and a pass rusher) to rich, long term contracts and try to supplement with players under the age of 26.

by BlueFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Goose about how valuable TE’s are in the playoffs. I remember last year Finley and Health Miller making huge contributions on helping their teams to the Super Bowl. This past weekend – tight end’s catching touchdowns and first downs were everywhere. Green Bay got little out of Finley and had their worst offensive showing. TE is huge. If Chan is such an offensive genus, why isn’t he taking advantage when others are of this position. Not sure Chandler is elite, but he is capable and I believe better than anyone else on the roster.

by jhloje on Jan 17, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

That seems like way too much money for Chandler. Wow. That Titans contract is nuts.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

It would be hard to say that Chandler would be worth $4/year or higher if he’s primarily going to be a blocker.

by SiriusRed on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. That seems like a crazy contract.

Kevin Boss signed for 4 years and $16 million last offseason and I think Chadler’s nowhere near that class (he’s caught 39 career passes!).

The Pears contract is probably Chandler’s price range – $3 million/year.

by Pistol on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Titans contract sounds nuts but...

Really it is not… That was the purpose of having a rookie salary cap so that the money would go to vets instead of unproven rookies…The landscape is changing and we better get use to the new vet pay scales. I’d rather have a proven vet get the money then a kid coming out of college at least we know what we are getting with Chandler…

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If that's the new price range, then I'm with Nix and his "wait and see" approach

I’ kick the tires on John Carlson as well. Go with whomever is cheaper. There are some draft options as well. George Bryan out of NC State just measured in at 6-5 and in the 260’s, and could be a good option along with Lee Smith.

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The cost of keeping vets is going to go up, teams have to spend at least 95% of the salary capin 2012…

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by Goose22 on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If we dont re-sign Chandler.

Then we better draft Fleener in the 2nd round. Even though, Id love to have both.

Look at this league Chan, big, uncoverable TE’s are taking the league by storm.

I hate that I love Buffalo.

by bflo on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Value

You have to get value for the talent you are paying. I don’t see any value in paying Chandler above average TE money right now. His best attribute is that he is tall and big. He has below average speed, good hands, and below average athletic ability (leaping ability, adjustment on the ball and separation).
Spending money on average players is a terrible way to manage your cap. Spend the money on premium players with high end talent. Average players who want average money gets you no where. It locks up a position, locks up money to spend on better players, and often blocks the path for younger guys to step in.
If he gets over 3.0 million, let him go. Over 5.5 million is where the elite TE’s are making.
Fred Davis, Daniel Fells, Joel Dreesen are all FA’s. All have bigger upside than Chandler. They should definitely kick the tires on one or all of those three if available.

by J09 on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe he gives us a hometown discount since we took a chance on him?

It could happen.

Cut Thiggy and use that money to sign him?
Cut Brad Smith too while we’re at it.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

Can Chandler play QB? Because he would need to in that scenario…

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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 18, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

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