2012 NFL Draft Order: Buffalo Bills Picking No. 10
by Brian Galliford on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 AM EST
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With the 2011 NFL regular season officially in the books, the 2012 NFL Draft order is set - and your Buffalo Bills will be picking No. 10 overall.
It's the third straight year that the Bills will pick in the Top 10. In 2010, the Bills drafted running back C.J. Spiller with the No. 9 overall pick, and a year later, they made defensive tackle Marcell Dareus the No. 3 overall pick. The last time the Bills held a Top 10 pick for three straight seasons? They actually picked that high for six straight years from 1968 through 1973; those picks yielded Haven Moses, O.J. Simpson, Al Cowlings, J.D. Hill, Walt Patulski and Paul Seymour.
At 6-10, the Bills were tied with two other teams (Carolina and Miami) in the standings, and that group sat behind seven teams with a worse record than that. Buffalo will pick behind both Carolina and Miami, however, due to a better strength of schedule.
Thus begins months of debate about which position the Bills will address with the pick, or which high-end prospect will miraculously fall into Buffalo's lap. Let the off-season begin!
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I don’t think saying a de or wr is prudent – we need players all over. this will truly be a crapshoot for mocks.
wr, lt, te, g, QB, olb x2, ss, cb – I could see us taking anyone of those positions.
by J2 on Jan 2, 2012 8:40 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Nix's Draft's have been Overall pretty good.
All 5 of the kids taken in the first 4 round contirbuted quite well for the Bills, The only two kids who didn’t contribute were Chris White and Johnny White, Rogers, Hairston, Searcy, Sheppard, Williams and Dareus all played moderatly well Dareus playing extremly well.
We have 3 glaring (and by glaring I mean major weaknesses) OLB, CB and WR.
Fitz showed he can still throw the ball pretty decently even when he’s throwing to no names and over acheivers. With CJ and hopefully Freddie manning the backfield (and no more Tashard Choice PLEASE!!) and hopefully a re-signed Stevie J our offence just needs a legitmate #2 receiving threat. Nelson showed he can play the slot.
We need actual OLB’s, Kelsay showed his importatance to our team this year he really did but we need actuall LB’s not DL playing LB, and we need an in jection of youth in our secondary. Mcgee & Florence are really passed their prime and McKelvin can maybe, maybe play man to man in the slot but we definatly need another Man on Man corners preferably in the 2nd round again. I would love to see our draft go a little like this.
1.) OLB – No Brainer
2.) CB
3.) WR or OLB or MLB
4.) 3-4 DE & OG
5.) OG
6.) Just keep doing what your doing Buddy cause your 6th and 7th round picks have been dominant.
and definatly grab a WR in FA there are an abundance of good WR available just make it happen, Mario Manningham, Pierre Garcon, Vincent Jackson someone along those lines, not a unproven guy I want someone who will be able to grow in our system for 3 or 4 years!
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by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 2, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you for being sensible and not mentioning RGIII
or any QB for that matter… If we go OLB, CB or WR in the first I’d be thrilled (but Upshaw is the only OLB I don’t think we’d be reaching for at 10, as of now), However between Claiborne and Kirkpatrick or Blackmon and Floyd… bring it.
by BillsThickNThin on Jan 2, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
BS having the Dolphins pick ahead of the Bills.
They twice beat them, afterall.
I don’t know how anyone convinces me otherwise, because as I see it: The pick has to be franchise QB and it has to come via a trade up.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2012 8:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ironically, the Bills being on the Fins schedule 2X made the FIns “strength” of schedule weaker putting them in front of us. Typical Bills…poster children for Murphy’s Law. Only they could lose a tie breaker to a team that beat them 2X.
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I think this is a matter for debate and change by the NFL. Not having the head to head as a tie breaker is absurd, and also having the strenth of schedule as the first tie breaker is also absurd. Divisional record, and, conference records tie breakers also should be ahead of the strenth of schedule tie breaker. When a divisional foe finishes ahead of you in the standings with the same record because they had the better divisional record, should they draft ahead of you because of SS? NO!!!
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jan 2, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
- strength***, hmmm, my G is sticking!!!
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
hmmm, my G is sticking
TWSS
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
But what about the Panthers? Neither team played them. Where should they be in the draft order?
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 2, 2012 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They have their franchise QB, so naturally they should pick later…so any team looking to trade up to their spot can’t leapfrog the Bills.
=)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn't have said it better myself.....
Although isn’t there a chance oklahoma’s qb will be there?
Fishy stink. Yesterday I was Happy at least that the fish won and lo and behold, we still pick after them….. I very important drop.
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walter football
has us drafting coples. That would assume a switch back to the 4-3, which seems like a no-brainer given the quality of play our 3-4 defense has produced. Dareus would probably fit fine. So, we’d have as our line: Williams, Dareus, Kelsay and ________. Coples would be a good fit here.
Either way we are going to need to upgrade the linebackers depth, and create a pass rush somehow. Walter football doesn’t have an OLB going off the board until 19 with Upshaw. However, they have like 5 OLBs between pick 25 and 45, so perhaps we grab another position in the 1st round and get the OLB in round 2. There are 3 OTs in the top 10 picks in walterfootball’s mock. Maybe we can get one of them?
good points
Unless one of the OLB’s rises the draft boards it seems silly to reach for one at #10, there are 3 to 4 potential franchise quarterbacks, 2 high end corners plus one WR, 3 OT’s and Coples that would probably be better value, still fit a need and then use the 41st overall pick to get a pass rushing OLB.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Also agree
At 10 we can’t get an OLB so provided we don’t make any trades we should be able to get an OLB in round 2, I think we could probably get a good one in round 3 as well.
Round 1 can therefore be BPA out of the CB’s / OL / WR’s.
I haven’t been impressed by alson jeffery but just saw him catch an AMAZING 51 yarder in the bowl game. I’m really intrigued to see how he gets on during all of the testing.
jeffery
there are some issues with him that will affect his draft position, definitely top 10-15 ability but weight issues and poor route running will send him down the draft boards. If the Bills are going to take a chance on a player in the 1st round I’d rather it be a QB-in fact that is what I am hoping will happen.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bet the farm, make a trade with #2 (Rams?), whatever it takes , get RGIII
by garcia76 on Jan 2, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Won't happen
There’s no way Nix will hand over several picks to move up into the top five. We are still several pieces away from competing our puzzle, and since we can’t count on free agents flocking to Buffalo, we need as many draft picks as we can get.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
uh uh
Buddy likes the farm….no way, no how, does he bet it. It’s where he sits, sips, naps, rocks (in his chair) on the porch.
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According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
We need a pass rusher
Kevin Reddick out of North Carolina is a ball hawk. He would fit perfectly in a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme. What do you guys think?
I don’t disagree with you that they need one. The problem I have is that with an early first round pick, the team has a chance to pick a player who can single-handedly change a team (hopefully for the better). Usually, the only type of player to do this is a QB. Picking a defender doesn’t fix the defense and he likely won’t make the team a contender on his own.
They need to pick a true stud at QB. A guy who can change their fortunes for the good…finally.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 2, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Afghan, are you saying that if we drafted Aldon Smith or Von Miller, and either had the year for us that they did with the 49ers and broncos, our D wouldn’t have improved by leaps and bounds?
We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen
by cencalclassics on Jan 2, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
our D did improve by leaps and bounds
with Dareus but it only garnered 2 more wins. A franchise QB can turn an average team into a good one very quickly.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
You think our D improved by “leaps and bounds”? Please explain that, because I don’t see it. Sure, teams weren’t running for 200 yards on us, but that’s because they were throwing for 350. Average points per game didn’t really improve, neither did yardage. We got more TOs, I guess, but that’s hardly a consolation.
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sorry, should've clarified
I thought our D improved in the areas where Dareus was expected to help it, ie: up the middle, run game and pressure on QB. They still need help on the outside and at corner. My point is that one position can’t make up for lack of depth at other positions except for QB. Look at the Giants, Eli Manning has had an incredible year this season considering the amount of injuries NY suffered especially at receiver, he has carried them to the playoffs.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Improving at it might have woudl not have taken the Bills to a place that a talented QB could. Look at Andy Dalton and Green for the type of results i’m after.
I mean, they play in the same division as the Ravens and Steelers! The Bengals are in the playoffs!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
This is the best chance the Bills have had in years to get a guy that could fit in Buffalo and I think he will still be available at 10 in Ryan Tannehill.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
will need "stamina" from defensive picks
if we go all “D” again, we will need picks with stamina because they will be on the field for extensive periods while the “O” follows its patented dink, dunk, and punt game plan.
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by fansince60 on Jan 2, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Need best available player
From one of the following positions… DE, OLB, CB, OL. The center of the defense seems well fortified with Williams/Dareus, Barnett/Sheppard, Wilson/Byrd. OL could use upgrade at LT and RG, players who can wear down a defense and open up the running game.
Not sure why you’d think they’d target right guard. Urbik’s not going anywhere – unless you’re saying something about Eric Wood there.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 2, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
To me, Urbik is a solid backup capable of filling in at both guard and center, a very handy player to have around. Given the Bills history the past few years, I think Urbik will end up with substantial playing time during the season even if the starts the year as reserve. I wouldn’t expect the Bills to draft a guard at #10, but if a quality player is available in rounds two or three, I wouldn’t hesitate to pick him.
Interesting
I don’t get it, and I was never an Urbik fan before this season. Our OL gave up one of if not the fewest number of sacks in the NFL and had a top half running game (would have been higher if Chan didn’t abandon it). Why not stick with what’s working? Let these guys get another year together and they can improve from what I thought was an impressive season. My hunch is that Buddy will see it this way too, maybe adding some depth at T in the middle to later rounds.
by buffaloparks on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think the Bills will draft an offensive lineman until day three, if at all. I think they will keep the Bell/Hairston platoon at LT and Urbik at RG. They could certainly use more depth on the O-line, but the unit played well while healthy. I would be more inclined to fill in the gaping holes (CB, OLB/DE, & WR) than worry about a marginal upgrade of a position that, for the most part, has somebody that we would at least be okay with having them play that position next year.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only QBs I would pick up (if they somehow fell that low) are RG3 and Luck. Nobody else seems worthy of passing up the possibility to get elite talent at a position of real need (WR, LB, DE).
I also think that building the passrush should be a major priority (cough Upshaw or Coples). It will make our CBs look better since the opposing QBs won’t be able to sit back and comfortably find the weak spot.
I agree about first round QBs. I don’t think there is anybody else that would impress Nix or Gailey, and Ralph might also be hovering behind them, veto in hand, thanks to the fat contract they just gave Picks-patrick.
For later rounds, I think there are still two good possibilities. I could see Gailey enjoying the versatility of Ryan Tannehill (like Brad Smith, but significantly better at QB) if he’s available in the third round. I could also see them taking a chance on day three on Case Keenum because he could fit right into Gailey’s spread offense. Sure, he played against inferior talent in C-USA, but they are big numbers nonetheless. His TD-to-INT ratio is phenomenal. I think most teams will pass him over simply because he did not play in a “pro style” offense.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tannehill
is projected by many as a late first-rounder. I think if they were going to take him they’d have to be able to get him with their second-round pick, but I’m not sure he falls that far. I like the idea of picking a Keenum/Russell Wilson/Kirk Cousins type in one of the later rounds, even just to have a young QB on the roster.
I project Tannehill will be taken in the top ten.....there, now it is official :-)
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totally agree
If Locker goes 8 and Ponder 12 then Tannehill is definitely top ten material.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Those guys were both huge reaches. Taking Tannehill at #10 would be a huge reach that I can’t see Nix doing.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't care if Todd McShaddy or walterfootball.com thinks any of those QBs are a reach
What I care about is getting a franchise QB.
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they were
but the point is teams will reach for a QB, look at Dalton, I bet there are teams that wished they ‘reached’ for him too instead of letting him fall to Cincy in the 2nd round. And of course there is Aaron Rodgers that dropped to 24th overall.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the QBs taken in the draft last season were reaches
The reason why most of them went in the 1st round was because of the lockout and each team that drafted those qbs had big question marks at the position. The Bills actually did something very smart last draft by not reaching for a player and just drafting the BPA in a position of need. If they do that again this year, they’ll go with the best player at one of these positions (CB/WR/TE/OLB/OT). If they do decide to change back to 4-3 defense then OLB would be switched with DE cause we could easily move Sheppard or Barnett to OLB in the 4-3 system.
I agree
Bills were smart last year, however I think this year they need to make a move at QB as can’t keep waiting until next season for a top-line QB to fall to you. Third year of the rebuild is time to draft your franchise QB IMO.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
re: Tannehill
We’ll have to see how things shake out, especially if he shows up at the combine. He’s still a very big project having relatively little experience at QB. He was still a WR until midway through 2010. I don’t think the Bills would take him in the early part of round two — that’s too risky for somebody like Nix to take a player who didn’t put together a bigger body of work at the college level. So, unless he falls to the third round or the Bills trade some picks to get back into the later part of round two, they will probably address whatever defensive hole they didn’t fill in the first. Anybody who wants to take him in the first round is taking a huge gamble.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 11:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
we need a LT
with bell leaving and with Hairston… well, being Hairston we need a solid LT, I would even consider Decastro if we wanna trade down a few slots. These moves makes even more sense seeing the lack of quality pass rushers in this draft. If the pass rusher need is to be met it will have to be met in free agency IMO. Plus with a good LT or RG we’ll have a solid OLine with Wood coming back.
Free agency will have to be to be used to fill some holes as well, we built a a decent team through the first two drafts we need one more good draft and a big Free Agent aquisition maybe Carl NIcks or Vincent Jackson or Jermichael Finley or maybe even get a discounted player like Desean Jackson i know people will call me crazy…. but this an NFL team and they have to spend money under the new CBA
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We can still sign Bell
Then we could use the #10 pick for something else
Is this your homework, Larry?
I was going to say, who said Bell was leaving? He might not garner much interest considering he has injury issues the past 2 seasons.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jan 2, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Bell's injury concerns
which is why we shouldnt have much interest
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jan 2, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
My money is on Micheal Floyd.
But truly if there’s one thing that we’ve learned from Nix while drafting is to expect nothing. So who knows?
by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 2, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions
Granted, I haven’t seen a ton of college football, but when I’ve seen Upshaw, I wasn’t particularly impressed.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 2, 2012 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To me, the top priorities right now would be franchise QB, starting CB, starting WR, and depending on defensive alignment next year (3-4 vs. 4-3), either an OLB or a DE that can actually get after a QB. I don’t think there will be a franchise QB left at #10, nor do I think the Bills will trade up to get one. However, I would like to see them grab a reasonable project QB like Tannehill or Keenum in a later round and kick Thigpen to the curb.
Given that the defense was the bigger problem this year, I expect the pick to either be a CB or a DE/OLB. WR or even an offensive lineman seems like a longshot to me. We’ll have to see how free agency plays out, of course.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions
RG3 is tempting, but draft DEFENSE!
The Bill are 6-10 and have to generate a pass-rush. If the Bills didn’t commit all this money to Fitz, I believe that they might go after RG3. I think the Dolphins might take him, unfortunately!
But if Bills go back to 4:3, they could draft Couples out of UNC and their defense line would look pretty good – Dareus, Kyle Williams, Couples, Edwards. And they might finally generate a pass rush.
Tired of the Bills hoping that a QB will be the next Jim Kelly. The top QB’s in the league were not taken at the top, except for Manning.
And look at who the top receiver’s are this year – Wesley Welker, Victor Cruz and Jordy Nelson, who all were not even close to first round picks.
Point being that Bills should work on defense like the 49ers have!
Miami would definitely be keen for RGIII
However I think the Jags may take him believe it or not!
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Draft a QB every year in the first round until you land a franchise one!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
odds are 50%
you land a franchise QB in 1st round, according to the numbers that strategy would be far quicker than the Bills current one. They hit on Kelly, whiffed on Losman and never went back to the trough. How many other franchises have only drafted 2 QB’s in the 1st round in the last 30 years? It seems incredible they have shunned such an important position year after year after year.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
The top QB’s in the league were not taken at the top, except for Manning.
It’s the other way around. There were two Mannings taken first overall, both have won Super Bowls. Stafford threw for 5000 yards and 41 TDs, pretty sure he qualifies as a top QB. Rivers, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Cam Newton. Which QBs weren’t top picks? There’s Tom Brady, the exception that proves the rule. Romo went undrafted, good luck finding the next Romo. Rodgers and Brees are incredible, but you have to spend a first round pick to get them (or in SD’s case, be the worst team in the league and take Brees with the first pick in the 2nd round). Matt Schaub is the other non-first rounder. How are the Bills getting a QB if they don’t take one in the first round? I just listed 12 QBs that I would consider to be the top guys and you’d need to spend a first round pick to have drafted 9 of them.
Wesley Welker, Victor Cruz and Jordy Nelson, who all were not even close to first round picks
Jordy Nelson was taken 37th overall. You can make the same argument with every position on defense too.
The 49ers are a great example of a team that has drafted offensive players in the first round, but still built an elite defense. The Bills shouldn’t prioritize defense over offense. The goal should be to build a team that is great at both.
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by kaisertown on Jan 2, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
well said...rec'd
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
But just because you take a QB in the first round, even if it’s not a reach, that does not guarantee success. Just look at Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, JP Losman, David Carr, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, etc.
by SiriusRed on Jan 2, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no
but not drafting a QB in the 1st round almost exclusively guarantees failure. Of the 12 playoff teams this year only Dalton (early 2nd), Schaub & Brady weren’t drafted in the 1st round.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can’t win the lottery if you don’t pick numbers.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Couples doesn't mean going back to 4-3
He plays pass rush lb out of 3-4 at occasionally DT. They’ve used multiple looks to try and get him pay the double teams. Mr Wilson talked about offensive talent but he also said last year we needed a qb and that didn’t happen. I figure couples, upshaw or lauchey(bc MLB) will be the choice. Saw one draft with upshaw in 1st and Hightower in 2nd. The te put of nd would be a great pick in the 3rd if u want to give a qb more targets
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Jan 2, 2012 10:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I love how everyone says we need a elite qb and we need to draft one at 10 and last yr we ignored getting a qb blah blah blah……….listen last yr cam was there guy……he did not fall……..luck and rg 3 will not fall either…….FITZ IS THERE GUY….give him some better talent wr and pass catching te come to mind…chandler is good but not an explosive game changer……and with that being said we need olb and cb on defense
Completely agree.
I mean, I don’t agree that Fitz can be a franchise QB, but I agree that Buffalo thinks he can be a franchise QB. They aren’t picking a QB at No. 10 less than a full season after signing him to a long-term, fairly pricey deal. They may draft a project QB and try to groom him behind Fitz for a couple of years, but Luck or RGIII is not getting to the tenth pick and Nix doesn’t strike me as the type of guy to give up picks to move up for one of them.
A name I haven't seen mentioned here...
is Dre Kirkpatrick, the CB from Alabama. I know Claiborne won’t be there at No. 10, but I think Kirkpatrick is widely considered the second-best corner available. I don’t know much about him, because, well, I’m not a scout, but I think he’s a bigger, physical corner but may lack a little speed, correct? I think he’d fit in well with Buffalo’s defense, and clearly — outside of a pass rusher — cornerback is one of the Bills’ biggest needs. I just don’t see any pass rushers listed very highly in any of the mocks I’ve seen so far.
PASSRUSHER !
Since we are drafting @10 all “franchise” qb’s will be gone but DE or OLB will be there
by mr3857 on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Draft Approach
I am a huge Courtney Upshaw guy. We should follow up the Bama trend because Dareus is a STUD in my eyes. Upshaw would be an immediate 7+ sack performer and would contribute nicely+ he would bring out the best in Moats. Second round snag another linebacker…or a corner…or a wideout wouldnt be bad considering we might not re-sign stevie. This is how my dream draft would go (first two rounds)
1st: Courtney Upshaw
(Trade back into first for 2nd and 3rd)
1st: Vontaze Burficit
Imagine: Upshaw, Barnett, Burficit, Moats/Kelsay
by roamingbuffaloOFduffs on Jan 2, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions
We need.....
A QB.
I’ve seen enough. Fitzy’s delivery has two problems. He has too use all his strength too throw and that wind-up has too much room for error. And it isn’t hard to imagine, watching him throw with all his might like that on so many throws, that he would also throw his arm out.
On top of that he and the team collapsed after his deal. Something is very wrong about that. I think the team was running through walls for the underdog QB and was left wanting after Fitz was so largely rewarded.
And finally, my season-ticket holding friends were watching Stevie TD and report that he was open routinely. And how many big plays were not made as receivers had to routinely adjust to poor throws.
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NFL has to address draft order
Strength of schedule should be a tie breaker behind head to head, conference record and maybe even points scored. Miami beat Buffalo twice and is somehow worse even with identical records? Laughable.
I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.
by Ron From NM on Jan 2, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It doesnt make sense that the first tie breaker isnt head to head...
especially in this instance where they beat us TWICE!
Come on Buffalo, please?
w/the 10th pick
- Franchise QB if one remains (2 or 3)
- Franchise OT (2 or 3?)
- Pass rushing animal @ OLB ?
Or the best player available, specifically the name at the top of the Buddy board after 9 picks.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions
If were gonna take a QB let it be in FA and not the draft
I do not see how any QB not named luck or rg3 could be better than some of the FAs out there. Obviously Flynn would be a solid pick up. Unfortunately many teams will be going after him. I wouldn’t mind trying to get Hoyer from new England. They already drafted a 3rd rounder last year. We should be able to pick him up cheaper than Flynn.
by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions
RG3 if there, but won't be
Buddy is already on record that he’ll draft a franscise QB is one is available. Is RG3 one? We’ll see what Buddy thinks. I’d expect him to go ahead of us though, maybe to Miami.
Cleveland needs a WR.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Drafting 10, there will be a very good player left for us...
2 QB: Luck, RG3
1 RB: Richardson
3 OT: Martin, Reiff, Kalil
2 CB: Kirkpatirck, Claiborne
3 WR: Blackmon, Floyd, Jefferies
Thats 11 players right there, so at least 2 of those players should be available. And I would be happy with any of them. Also trading back a few spots could still get us possibly one of them, or an OLB in Coples or Perry, plus Upshaw and Burflict should be available in the 12-18 range.
We have many options. With pretty much every position but RB and Saftey as a possibilty.
Come on Buffalo, please?
Agree with all except Richardson
He’s great, but I just dont’ want to see ANOTHER first round RB taken.
No I dont want him either, please no Nix...
I think he’ll be gone before 10, Im just listing the top 12 players in the draft, showing that a real good player will be available.
Come on Buffalo, please?
no
but with Richardson I’d make a very big exception. This guy has the makings of an Adrian Peterson with better hands.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Adrian Peterson is awesome, but even he can’t turn his team into winners. The year they nearly got to the SB, Brett Lorenzo Favre had the best season of his life.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree
I want a QB 1st round nothing less, I’m just saying that I think Richardson will be a player.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 3, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't put
Floyd of Jeffries in the same category as the other players. Floyd is more of a possession receiver which the Bills already have, they need a guy that can stretch the field better and Jeffries is falling down draft boards due to various issues. I would be happy to add DE Coples to your list however and still agree that Bills should have one or two top end players available if not more at #10.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hoping it's just Low Enough
That Nix et. al don’t put together a “package” to trade up and get RGIII or Luck. I think they are both great players, and I think Luck would be great on the Bills-but the expense of having to move up to get them would be a pyrrich victory. So I’m hoping that 10th is just low enough to make the cost too high. DE, OLB that can cover, a True #1 WR would be excellent picks in the top 10. If by some miracle of G-d, RGIII falls to number 10 (which he won’t) then I’d be fine with drafting him if everything else checked out.
An OT would be good too, but the sack and rushing numbers were pretty good. I think with a healthy Wood and Levitre the O-line becomes less of a priority.
You want to mess around with drafting a QB, that’s a good idea-I’d look at a guy like Kellen Moore who should be around in the 3rd or 4th round.
But Luck is so far superior a prospect to Kellen Moore. If the Bills took someone like him, they’d be wasting more time, most likely, figuring out he’s not going to cut it. But then they’d have done nothing to finally fix the franchise QB problem via moving up for Luck or RGIII.
The only messing around I hope they avoid is believing some passed-over, late-round prospect is superior to Fitzpatrick and the answer to their franchise-QB woes.
It’s far more expensive losing fans at home games for the next 4 years because they felt it was too risky picking a phenom at QB, opting instead for that low draft pick risk.
Ugh. I don’t like what’s probably in store for the team.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I felt comfortable enough to take that bet....but I don't
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
I'll take that bet.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 2, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gamecocks Jeffries
Judging by the 1st half Im thinking Jeffries over Floyd
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Jan 2, 2012 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ryan Tannehill (though I think we’ll have to trade up for him)
Alshon Jeffery (not overly fast but with his long arms and good hands he’s always open)
Courtney Upshaw (not a great pass rusher, and 10 is probably a little too early)
Jonathon Martin (Bell has played well but is injured to often, also a FA)
Melvin Ingram (fantastic athlete, if not here then in the 2nd if he’s still available)
In the 2nd
Jared Crick – DE – Nebraska (good pass rusher for his size, could be a good LDE for us if we want to go back to 4-3 – wouldn’t mind trading into late 1st for him)
Whitney Mercilus – DE – Illinois (another could-be-good-DE if we go back to the 4-3)
Vinny Curry – DE – Marshall (another could-be-good RDE- if we go back to the 4-3)
Nick Toon – WR – Wisconsin (Steve Johnson needs help)
Marvin McNutt – WR – Iowa (Steve Johnson needs help)
Kendall Wright – WR – Baylor (Steve Johnson still needs help)
Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)
1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB
Everyone seems sure that Blackmon won't be around at 10
I think he may. He’s a game changer… look what AJ Green did for Cincy and Dalton, Blackmon is capable of doing the same. A beast of a player and one of the best character guys in the entire draft.
Blackmon does look awesome
cannot see him making it to 10.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 2, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Auto spell
Cant see Blackmon being the nxt crabtree
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Jan 2, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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