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Because it's fun! I did a quick mock last night watching the Giants beat the Cowboys. Lots to happen with players declaring, etc., but here goes the top ten:

Indianapolis: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford. And they keep Peyton Manning. Just because the fans, the media, and maybe even Oliver Luck think Manning should move on, the only two opinions that matter are those of Jim Irsay and Bill Polian. And I think they won't rush this situation. They might lose out on a couple day two draft picks, but I think Indianapolis keeps both and re-evaluates after the 2012 season.

Washington (trade from St. Louis); Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor. This trade makes the most sense for both teams. St. Louis isn't going to get considerably better plugging Grifffin in for Sam Bradford. Bradford is also the owner of the last large rookie NFL contract, making him somewhat harder to trade. Washington needs a franchise quarterback, and Mike Shanahan has traded up to get his quarterback in the past. Dan Synder will give up the picks to get RGIII, unless they decide to trade for Matt Flynn, which shouldn't be discounted.

(Trade note: Washington gives up 1st and 2nd round picks in 2011, and 1st round pick in 2013)

3.) Minnesota: Matt Kalil, OT, USC. No-brainer pick for Minnesota. The Vikings are rebuilding around Christian Ponder, who has been injured at season's end. A franchise left tackle solidifies the line and helps protect Ponder. Kalil is the safest pick in the draft, with a lot of upside and NFL bloodlines.

4.) Cleveland: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama. Mike Holmgren rode Shaun Alexander to the Super Bowl in 2005, and he knows the value of a work-horse in a West Coast scheme. Richardson is one of those rare talents that break the "don't pick a running back high" rule. In Cleveland, he'll run 25 times a game, take pressure off Colt McCoy, and make Cleveland a tough out, especially in December.

5.) Tampa Bay: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU. This is a case of BPA meeting pressing need. Tampa Bay's offense regressed, but it was due to down years at multiple positions. The defense has a solid front loaded with young talent. Ronde Barber isn't getting younger, and Aqub Talib has major legal troubles. Tampa Bay plays against three other franchise quarterbacks in the NFC South. Claiborne makes sense here.

6.) St. Louis (from Washington): Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford. Bradford needs some receivers. He could also use some protection. Rodger Saffold might be better off at guard, and Jason Smith hasn't live up to his #2 overall draft status, and has been playing right tackle. Franchise left tackles are harder to find than receivers. There are two sure-fire left tackles in 2012. With two second round picks, the Rams pass on the receiver and take the left tackle.

7.) Jacksonville: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State. Blackmon looks like a young Terrell Owens to me. He can do everything well, but is elite over the middle and in the short to intermediate passing game. Blaine Gabbert played all of 2011 with reserve receivers starting. Blackmon becomes his go-to receiver in 2012.

8.) Carolina: Dre' Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama. The Panthers could go Quentin Coples with this pick. I think Coples looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. The Panthers could use an offensive tackle, but after seeing Riley Reiff get beat up by Oklahoma pass rushers, I think his stock takes a dive. Carolina follows suit with Tampa Bay, and takes the cornerback.

9.) Miami: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma. This is a tough pick to predict. The Dolphins need a quarterback, and two are on the board in Jones and Ryan Tannehill. I think Tannehill is better but Jones is more ready to play in 2012. That said, Jones should stay in school. He could challenge Matt Barkley as the top pick in 2013 if he did. I don't think he will. It's a similar situation to Gabbert last year. Jones will test well in terms of throwing ability and attitude, and Miami has the offensive line in place to protect him. This pick will be a tough one to project before free agency. I don't think Miami has the firepower that Washington has to go get RGIII, and they are the ultimate losers in Barkley's decision. The new head coach could choose to go a receiver or front seven on defense. Unless Miami decides on a free agent, I think Jones is the pick.

10.) Buffalo: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M. Buffalo's in a good spot to take a quarterback. The Bills should compete for a playoff spot in 2012, and contend in 2013. Unless Buddy Nix's builds a defense like the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens, Ryan Fitzpatrick will hold them back. Tannehill has elite tools and intangibles. He just needs experience. Buffalo sits him for a year behind Fitzpatrick, and uses the rest of the 2012 draft, and the 2013 off-season to build the team. The team and Tannehill should be ready at about the same time.

Note: I think Matt Flynn plays into this top ten. Miami and Washington are going to do internal mock drafts, and conclude that if Indianapolis takes Luck, the best deal for RGIII wins. Ownership of both teams is more into high-impact off-seasons, and selling Landry Jones to the fanbase might not work. I think one of the two teams works for Flynn like Houston did for Matt Schaub. I think Washington is most likely to make the move because Green Bay and Washington have west coast based offenses, and Shanahan seems most comfortable with veterans at quarterback.

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I still think for the Bills

Taking a pass rusher in the first, and then a QB in the second ala Foles is a better value for the franchise.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Which pass rusher?

I think there isn’t one worthy of the 10th pick right now. Maybe Nick Perry. I wouldn’t take Coples. He hasn’t shown any willingness to play hard all the time.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Perry could be taken in the top 10

And I’m also expecting Mercilus to blow up the combine, and propel himself into the upper half of the first round.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

But I don’t think Mercilus has elite burst off the line. He’s a hustle sack kind of guy.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

See I dont think he has elite burst

But I think he has elite strength, and good enough burst, if that makes sense.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be completely open to Mercilus at about 25

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

What are you feelings about Jared Crick from Nebraska? He’s had good production for his size.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar player to JJ Watt without the explosion

That explosiveness is what made Watt a high first rounder.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

we dont need anymore combine standouts!

We need proven commodities, rushing the passer is just as much about scheme as it is about talent and we need both!

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by PaullyPforPrez on Jan 2, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You realize tha both

Mercilus, and Perry have had very good seasons this year right?

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Concur...

I agree with a lot of your reasoning and conclusions DJ. I’d take Riley Reiff from Iowa ahead of Martin, but that’s taste. I also think the tape measure and scale aren’t going to be good to Martin at the combine. He’s listed at 6-6 305, but looks small next to Stanford’s other linemen. I bet he actually goes around 6-4 285.

I wouldn’t touch Coples with a 10’ pole either. He was terrific in 2010, when he was slotted to be a rotational DT, and wound up starting at DE when half the team got suspended for agent/payola. This year mediocre is generous to him. Also a report surfaced that they wanted to move his uninspired butt back inside to get another speed rusher on the field, and he refused. The perception that the inmates were running the asylum is a big reason Carolina has a new coach.

Either of Upshaw or Perry around 15-20, OK, but not at 10. I’d take Upshaw at 10 based on his football, but come the combine, his track is going to push him down when he runs 4.7-something. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it happens a lot. He’s also not “long” -listed at 6’2." Remember they moves Moats back inside because he didn’t have prototype height for an edge rusher. Perry has the opposite ‘problem.’ He’s going to blaze the 40 in less than 4.6 at the combine and maybe be over-drafted as a result. He may not even be there at 10 if he runs a low-4.5.

At least those two have three-year bodies of work showing production against good competition. Mercilus from Illinois got ‘hot’ around here when Joe D. dropped his name on WGR. But prior to 2011, he made exactly two starts and no sacks. Came out of nowhere this year with a ton of production that’s inconsistent with his past performance. As the Church Lady would say, “Re-MIND you of anyone? Hmmmmmmmm?”

Vinny Curry from Marshall may be worth a look in the 2nd round.

My overall take is that the Bills have done reasonably well at the secondary positions (RB, S, interior OL). They’ve got to hit some picks at the impact positions (QB, LT, WR, DE/OLB, CB). Following a season that saw three 5,000yd passers, the game is about HAVING the franchise guy, protecting the franchise guy, weaponizing the franchise guy, and threatening the opponent’s franchise guy and taking away his weapons.

by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 2, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Andre branch

could be one of the best pass rushing OLB prospects in the draft.

by jdol1568 on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I also want a pass rusher, but a franchise QB is more important

There is no question in my mind that the Bills need to add a couple of high quality pass rushers in the offseason, but if they get the chance to land Tannehill that should be the pick. I am worried that he is going to start shooting up draft boards and that he will be gone before the Bills are on the clock, but if he is there it’s a no brainer. The biggest question, as I see it, is the Browns and Colt McCoy. They could decide to go QB, which would make Tannehill that much more elusive for the Bills. There is also the possibility of another team trading up into the Top Ten to get him. But if it all plays out the way DJ has mocked it I for one would be delighted.

by Macktruck on Jan 2, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You think Holmgren goes Matt Flynn?

It worked in Seattle.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I do, as I mentioned much later in a comment.

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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 2, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

My guess is a bidding war, with Shanahan and the Redskins a major player. I could also see Miami and Denver going after him.

by Macktruck on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably

I think Holmgren might win out though. Matt Flynnisn’t the impact guy that ownership in Washington or Miami desires.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Why? There were four in the Top 12 just last year.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he's saying

That when you have 4 guys go in the top 10, thats how you end up with a JP Losman.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no way that taking 4 quarterbacks equals JP Losman

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

to be clearer I meant that 4th QB taken is usually the least talented of the bunch, sort of like us with Losman back in the day. Now it’s worked out recently, with Minnesota, and Cincinatti, last year, but to me those are more the exceptions than the rules.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

However

was Ponder, enough better, than Dalton, that he was worth the significantly higher price the Vikings paid for him?

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

each draft is different. these comparisons are meaningless. if theres 4 prospects who are worthy of top15 picks, then thats how it goes. the 2011 QB class has nothing to do with the 2012 QB class.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Jan 2, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It has to do with value

and Im using the most recent draft as an example, since I can’t actually see the future.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You're getting JP Losman -itis

Boomer Esiason was the 4th QB picked in 1983. Marino was the 6th. Culpepper was the 4th QB off the board in 1999. Until he got hurt, he was a franchise QB.

Just because a QB is 4th best in his draft class doesn’t mean he has lesser talent. It just worked that way in 2004.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

That

could very well be lol

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the Bills will reach for Tannehill. and i am not sure about the Rams taking a OT, but i don’t know too much about the rams.

by P2C5S on Jan 2, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

I could see the rams taking

Justin Blackmon very easily

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Fans always mock receivers because they are sexy picks

The Rams needed a receiver last year too, and took Robert Quinn.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea but thier offense fell

off a freaking cliff this year. They need a major talent infusion ASAP.

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by mob16151 on Jan 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Trade for Flynn?

You are assuming GB franchises him then? I’m pretty sure he is a UFA.

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by greysquirrel on Jan 2, 2012 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

That might be right.

Either way, it works the same.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless Buddy Nix’s builds a defense like the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens, Ryan Fitzpatrick will hold them back.

Right, but this defense as it stand will hold most QBs back. So I get the logic we need a long-term QB upgrade, but I was wondering what you think they can do to help this defense out. Are there pass-rushers in the second? Cause the free agent list looks sparse…

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by greysquirrel on Jan 2, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Right, but this defense as it stand will hold most QBs back.

Were you watching this season?

I’d trade back into the first for Mercilus, maybe even Hightower if he works well in drills. Chandler Jones in the 2nd.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Were you watching this season?

Uh, yeah, were you? Our defense sucks. Worse than the offense. Unless you have Brees Brady or Rodgers, you can’t build a team with this defense performing the way it was.

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by greysquirrel on Jan 2, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So maybe it’s time to roll the dice and draft a guy who could be a Brees, Brady or Rodgers instead of going with a popgun armed, interception machine. It’s a hell of a lot easier to fix a defense with mid round picks and free agents than it is to find a real franchise QB.

by tm on Jan 2, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, I’m not against getting a better QB, but unless this defense is better, I don’t think it matters. Odds are slim that the QB is gonna be one of the top 3-4 of his era, so he is going to need an improved defense. If we can improve the defense with mid-round picks, I’m all for it.

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by greysquirrel on Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

no qb at all

if we keep chan, he will keep his man and his contract.so like it or not but fitz will be under center, smith and thigpen will stay too after their contracts from2011.right now, it’s what i think but not what i like

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by le f07 on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

The Browns may put an end to the McCoy experiment

He wasn’t a first round pick, right? I doubt they wasted that high a pick on a RB.

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by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Who's the 2nd best RB?

That’s probably who we’ll take. I just finished your post on Tannehill, Der Jaeger, so I’m interested in him and hope the Bills pick him. I’m just fairly convinced we won’t.

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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Jan 2, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Wow....NO

I think that’s a little bit of a QB reach and with all of the top DEs/OLBs on the board I think this is madness. Quinton Coples, Andre Branch, Vinny Curry, Melvin Ingram, Courtney Upshaw? If not at least bring up a scenario where we trade down and get one. I can live with 15th in the league in overall offense but I can’t live with 28-30th in overall defense bro. Just cant do it

by jdol1568 on Jan 2, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't touch anybody you listed at ten overall

Coples not at all- he doesn’t play hard. Branch has no burst and is a one-speed pass rusher. Curry is a 2nd rounder. 10 is too high for Ingram, who doesn’t fit Buffalo’s defense. Upshaw will end up at ILB and 10 is too high.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Chad Henne

Couldn’t the Dolphins also just decide to stick with Chad Henne? It’s really dependent upon their new coach’s impression of their quarterback situation.

by michiganbillsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Yes

Depends on the new coach.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Matt Moore

Who looked a lot better than Henne has.

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by Kurupt on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

NO

Please let us not stretch for a mediocre QB. There will be plenty next year. Based on the players available I’d go with a big body (Reiff or Coples), maybe upshaw, pending the bowl and combine performance. Also, the Rams are taking Kalil, Martin is more of an RT. if anything the redskins will trade with Minnesota… Or Miami will trade there

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

How is Tannehill a mediocre QB?

3,800 yards 29 TDs 15 INTs and a 61.6% completion in only his 2nd year as a QB. He has good athleticism, as he is a former WR, strong arm strength, and good pocket presence. I’d say with 1-2 years of grooming he could be a stud and this team cannot win in the playoffs with Fitzpatrick as QB, Fitz just isn’t good enough. I think taking a chance on Tannehill would be a great thing to do as it would finally bring some excitement to this franchise.

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by atlantalove on Jan 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Just imagine drafting Tannehill, then Jeff Fuller in the 3rd or 4th round, oh I’d forgive this team for all their horrible drafts.

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by atlantalove on Jan 2, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

All I’m saying is that his name did not even pop up until after Barkley decided to return. I don’t think he would have been even considered in the first round had Barkley went to the draft. So perhaps in the later rounds give him a look, but there is no reason stretching for a QB in the first round when we can get better value else where

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because his name didn't pop up for you doesn't mean it just popped up

Macktruck and I started talking about him in September.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

QBs are always rising come draft time

He might even see a Blaine Gabbert type rise and go higher than #10. Just because he is a riser doesn’t mean he isn’t good. I’m pretty sure Philip Rivers was a draft time riser and he turned out pretty good

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by atlantalove on Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

thats just not true. tannehill was being talked about before the college season as being a guy who could emerge as a senior. there was barkley, luck, and jones, and then tannehill was right in the mix with the rest of them.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Jan 2, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If we want to be the team that takes the 4th QB in the draft

then I guess so be it. But I’d rather take the best or 2nd best player at a position than the 4th best at a position

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Tannehill is projected the 4th best QB at the beginning of January, before we even know who is officially declaring for the draft. And its just that, a projection, no one knows for sure how good any of these prospects are going to be in the NFL. Tannehill could turn out to be the best of the bunch…or a complete failure. This is why there are busts and hidden gems. The “4th best” QB could end up having a significantly better NFL career than the “2nd best” OLB.

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by kfisk214 on Jan 2, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

All I'm saying is I want to draft based on value

maybe he will be great, but given the info as of right now, at 10 from a value sense, it just seems like we are overpaying. Now if he is still available in the 2nd round, ok then I might be inclined to draft him. Basically if were taking a QB in the first round I want him to be as good as luck, rg3, or Barkley. From what I am aware of though, he is comparable to being as good as Landry jones. The assessments can change, but right now, it just seems we could find better value at a different position at pick #10

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This is bad logic

What if the four highest players in a draft all played the same position? Would that make the 4th best worse than the best at some other position? Poor argument.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone like Hoyer?

I liked him when he played for mich st. With the patriots having taken that QB from Arkansas last year, we could maybe get him cheaper than say Matt Flynn. The one throw he made at the end of the game was beautiful.

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

I like him...

as a fan of Michigan teams (in general), but I don’t think he’ll become much of a pro. He seems like a 2nd / 3rd string quarterback in the NFL.

by michiganbillsfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo once went for QB that didn't have a whole lot of pro experience

His name was Rob Johnson.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps that will be what happens

but as far as I’m concerned he’s someone who could be gotten cheap. You try to get Flynn or spend a high pick on a QB, that’s a significant cost. At least with Hoyer, if he were to turn out to be a total failure you won’t lose much. The same can’t be said though if you are spending a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick on someone. And for someone that’s received the chance to get loads of experience from one of the best qb’s in NFL history, it seems like a low risk, potential for high reward scenario

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Most franchise QB's are first round picks

Over 60% over the past 20 years. You can take your chances with Hoyer. I’ll take the odds with the 1st rounder.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Flynn will be a FA.....what is Hoyer's status?

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by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He’ll be a restricted free agent

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

sooooo.....if the Bills make an offer, the Pats can chose to match it, correct?

This means the Bills will have to make him an offer than is worth starting money. I don’t see that happening. They are going to roll with Fitz to start the season next year even if they draft a QB.

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by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea that’s right. I was just thinking with them already having mallet as well, we could get him for maybe a 6th/7th rounder

by flutieflakes007 on Jan 2, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

could be......I wonder if we could get him for backup money?

Might be worth it just to see what the Pats would do.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly dont hate the prospect of bills going after tannehill, although im not totally sold on him. as you point out, hed have time to work on becoming a better quarterback before he was forced to play. in the mean time the bills would have another draft or two to build up a talented team around their young qb.
either way (im sure ill be repeating this a lot from now till april), i dont think buddy nix takes a QB save luck or griffin somehow being available

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Jan 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Note: I think Matt Flynn plays into this top ten. Miami and Washington are going to do internal mock drafts, and conclude that if Indianapolis takes Luck, the best deal for RGIII wins. Ownership of both teams is more into high-impact off-seasons, and selling Landry Jones to the fanbase might not work. I think one of the two teams works for Flynn like Houston did for Matt Schaub. I think Washington is most likely to make the move because Green Bay and Washington have west coast based offenses, and Shanahan seems most comfortable with veterans at quarterback.

I agree. Where Flynn goes in FA will be one of the biggest factors in the 2012 draft.

Also don’t rule out Cleveland as a suitor for him.

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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Good point with Cleveland

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Here we go again

Lets just take a player with excellent college production, dont buy into the hype, sit tight and grab a great player. Easy to do last year, and I am very happy with 99’s performance… I can’t get into the mix yet because I don’t know all the players… but Fitz had a tough year after all the injuries… and who knows what he’s dealing with physically after a very probable cracked/bruised rib after the redskin game

I'm waitin'..... @killascript on twitter

by killascript on Jan 2, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Go check out Tannehill's production

He led the 14th best offense in the country this year. And he’s not running a gimmick college offense. He was running Mike Sherman’s west coast offense.

Tannehill’s had great production for playing 20 games.

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Admittedly I haven't seen Tannehill play...

…but everything I’ve seen says this kid is a mid-2nd round prospect at best. Are you just expecting his stock to rise that much in the months leading up to the draft? At least as it stands now, you’re pretty well overdrafting him.

There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in anything or not

by PozDispenser on Jan 2, 2012 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

check out his bowl game if you can find a replay of it....and you will get to see him at the Sr Bowl

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Jan 2, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I expect Tannehill to play well in the Senior Bowl

And I expect his stock to rise into the top 15 of the draft with the combine and individual workouts.

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by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

no qb

i don’t see nix sign a qb in 2012 after 3 qb contracts in 2011

proud to be a die hard bills fan from france

Resign stevie, chandler and scott, theni will think about april

by le f07 on Jan 2, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Two

Brad Smith is listed at QB, but he really is a WR.

Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.

by Der Jaeger on Jan 2, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless Thigpen’s contract was heavily guaranteed (seems highly unlikely given the back-up QB market), I’m guessing they wouldnt care about dropping Thigpen. He probably had $3-4m guaranteed (at most) on a 3 year deal. So I don’t think that contract inhibits them from drafting a QB.

I have low expectations. But high hopes.

by greysquirrel on Jan 2, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

tannehill

way too early for tannehill could easily get him in the 2nd round

by youngbillsfan83 on Jan 2, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

QB's rise a lot in the draft

i.e. Ponder, Gabbert

You are now Watching The Throne.

by tomcs on Jan 2, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially with the new CBA. Less harm in taking a top 10 QB now then in the past.

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 2, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Cleveland goes Blackmon

they have good depth at running back. No receivers for Colt McCoy.

Are we drafting Dino's now?
"6'6" monster receiver with a Terradactyl wingspan "....... Keysh67

by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Tannehill

May not be there at 10. Tannehill’s already ranked fifth best QB in draft to date. Don’t even think we’ll consider qb.

If you didn't like my last post wait till you read the next! :) Until we draft/acquire franchise QB we'll be setting records for losing soon!

by buffalobacker on Jan 2, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Nice top 10 Mock

1. Andrew Luck will not be happy in Indy behind Manning. I think the possibility exist of Peyton Manning being cut.
2. RG III to Washington is a good one for Washington and not so good for RG III. The instability in Washington concerns me as it relates to RG III’s longterm development.
3. Ryan Kalil fills the bill in Minnesota. I’m not he will protecting Christian Ponder’s blind side. Ponder has struggled mightly when asked to throw the football down the field from the pocket. Joe Webb is a threat to Ponder’s future at QB in Minny.
4. After last night’s performance, I do not see Justin Blackmon lasting beyond the 5th pick in the draft.
5. The #10 pick in the draft is way to high for Ryan Tannehill. I would classify Tannehill as a reach if taken before 20.

by Ravens One on Jan 3, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

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