State Of The Buffalo Bills Roster: Cornerback
Buffalo Rumblings is in the process of breaking down the Buffalo Bills' roster position by position. Installments you may have missed: QB, RB, WR, TE, OT, G/C, S, ST.
The Buffalo Bills currently only have six cornerbacks under contract for the 2012 season (we'll be reviewing a seventh about to hit unrestricted free agency), and have far more questions than answers at the position. In large, that's not good news, as the Bills have important decisions to make regarding three shaky veterans, and have placed a lot of faith on the plates of two green prospects.
There will be movement at this position, with new bodies and potentially even bigger personnel shakeups. For now, this is a position with talent, question marks, a shaky depth chart and some lack of direction.
DRAYTON FLORENCE
Age: 31 (32 in December 2012)
Contract: UFA in 2014. Entering second year of a three-year, $15 million contract.
Of the three veteran cornerbacks the team employs that have been at the top of the depth chart for a while, Florence appears to be the safest with ease. He signed a three-year free agent deal to remain with the club last off-season, has the right size and physicality that the team is looking for, and is clearly the most durable of the bunch. Florence is still good for a few big plays per season - this is a man that graced the cover of Sports Illustrated in September, after all - but also took his lumps in the form of penalties and allowing big plays last season. He's going to get playing time, but would be best served not having to defend a team's top receiver down in and down out.
TERRENCE McGEE
Age: 31 (32 in October 2012)
Contract: UFA in 2014. Owed $8.2M in base salary over final two years of his current deal.
When he was healthy in 2011, McGee was Buffalo's best corner. That's the problem, though - McGee was only healthy enough to appear in six games, and has missed more than half of the Bills' games (17 of 32) over the past two seasons. No longer the playmaker he was in his heyday, it's fair to assume that McGee's unreliable health could make him a cap casualty, given his high salaries and the young players in need of playing time. Still, there's one more veteran on this list whose status could keep McGee around for another year. Maybe.
AARON WILLIAMS
Age: 21 (22 in April 2012)
Contract: UFA in 2015. Entering the second year of a four-year, $5.2M rookie contract.
Williams, too, is concerning in that he suffered two separate injuries (collarbone, knee) last season. He came back from both of them, but on a team with durability questions everywhere, it'd be nice if one of their youngest, most talented players nipped that problem in the bud. When he played, Williams showed the physical prowess and athletic chops to line up with most types of wide receivers, but also took his lumps, giving up more than his fair share of catches. For now, those bouts of inconsistency are acceptable. With improved health and more consistent play, Williams should emerge as a high-quality starting corner for the Bills.
JUSTIN ROGERS
Age: 24
Contract: Undisclosed. Under contract for the 2012 season.
One of the more pleasant surprises of the season, the seventh-round pick out of Richmond first made waves as a kick returner, where he averaged 28.7 yards per kick return - a full 10-yard improvement on Brad Smith's average. Then he became a nickel back, and while he gave some things up, he was also very competitive and made a few plays on the football. He'll be the top kick returner entering 2012, and he'll likely be given an opportunity to lock down - at minimum - the nickel job, as well.
LEODIS McKELVIN
Age: 26 (27 in September 2012)
Contract: UFA in 2013. Owed $1.32M in base salary in the final year of his rookie deal.
Things do not look particularly great for McKelvin, either. He began the year as a starter, and reached a low point when two rookies (Williams and Rogers) passed him on the depth chart, relegating him to occasional dime work. He redeemed himself slightly with some good special teams work, but was still a target for opposing offenses when forced back onto the field defensively later in the season. Buffalo's coaching staff has not been comfortable with McKelvin on the field for two years now, and even if he's back in 2012, it's tough to imagine him having a large role immediately.
REGGIE CORNER
Age: 28 (29 in November 2012)
Contract: UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT
Corner did not make the team when the Bills cut down to 53 players in September, and was only re-signed when McGee was injured on the first defensive snap of the regular season. By year's end, Corner was fighting to be active each week, and was solely a special teams player when he did get to suit up. He's not likely to be re-signed, unless the team makes a bold decision with someone higher up on this list.
PRINCE MILLER
Age: 24
Contract: Under contract for 2012 (reserve/future deal, January 2012).
Miller, who spent the season on the practice squad, was given a reserve/future deal and looks to have an inside track for a spot on the training camp roster. You'll see him next summer.
POSITIONAL OUTLOOK: In Florence, McGee and McKelvin, the Bills have a trio of veterans that will make it difficult to determine the direction of this position until there's movement with one or more of them. Florence should be back, but it shouldn't surprise anyone if McGee or McKelvin is released to make room for guys like Williams and Rogers to rise up the depth chart. In fact, it would only be mildly surprising if both were released, although McKelvin's contract is pretty reasonable to at least keep him around competing for a roster spot. Williams and Rogers have been fast-tracked for playing time, but both players are still green. The team has no true pecking order at this position, which works in their favor solely from a game-planning perspective. All of these players can be beaten, and there's no true No. 1 guy on the roster.
FREE AGENCY: Again, don't be surprised if McGee, McKelvin or both find themselves part of the unrestricted free agent pool come mid-March. It would be surprising if Florence was, but that's not out of the realm of possibility, either. The Bills will be looking for fresh blood at this position, but I wouldn't expect the team to target big-name players at this position, instead focusing their big-name efforts - if there are to be any - on other, slightly more critical positions.
2012 NFL DRAFT: This is where the Bills will likely focus most of their attention on player acquisition at cornerback. Last year, the team drafted Williams and Rogers, and both of those players have potential. Despite larger perceived needs elsewhere, Bills fans would be wise to accept the fact that cornerback is very much in play with the team's No. 10 overall pick. Multiple picks will likely be invested in this position, as the team needs more than just bodies here.
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Rodgers and Williams are a good young base
Florence still has some value as aveteran leader. Mclovin has never been and will never be a starting CB in this league, he just does not have the mental aspect of the game and appears to lack the ability to get it.
Mcgee, and Mclovin should be gone and we should look for a CB somewhere in the middle of the draft.
Not a bad, but not a strong positional outlook at this point
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Nice breakdown. Totally agree.
Unfortunately, McGee will never be what he once was. If he hangs around in a role where he knows hes not going to be a starter, but wants to finish his career as a Bill, then I could respect that. As a Nickel/Dime back. But he just doesnt have the legs to start anymore.
I expect Reggie Corner to be gone too.
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mcgee
And corner will probably have to battle it out in camp for a position. Mcgee was clearly better, and looked good in the beginning of the season. But as you said, his time and legs are mostly gone. Only one will make it back.
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by billsoferie on Jan 23, 2012 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would be nice
if OBD could talk McGee into accepting a part-time dime expectation, while re-structuring his contract. I don’t know how realistic that would be though.
In terms of the draft, this is a question for anyone that knows. Does Alabama employ more zone coverage for their cornerbacks? I didn’t watch any of their games this year, but from youtube highlights it seemed they did. I just thought this might make Kirkpatrick a bit more of a question mark with our supposed emphasis on man coverage.
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Decent position.
Aaron Williams will be one of the Starters next year. He has the ability to be a shutdown corner. Rogers has the nickel spot locked down, he played great as rookie if ask me. Florence will be the other starter, maybe Rogers will push him. I say cut Mckelvin, keep Mcgee.
Florence needs YOGA for his neck
I like Florence, but if HE WOULD JUST learn to turn his dang head, he makes a lot more plays and obviously takes fewer penalties. This guy is a baller and he should go into his man cave and watch every penalty and missed opp he had last year by not turning his head. Part of D-Flo’s off season regimen should be running full speed and turning his head left for 100 times and right for 100 times every single day
by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
This goes for every DB on the roster...
I’m not sure if they were coached to do the whole face-guarding/NEVER look back for the ball thing… but in the NFL it is the number one way to get beat or flagged for a penalty. It doesn’t matter how well you shadow a receiver if you don’t look for the darn ball he is WIDE open. Our secondary coach should be fired whether he taught them to do it or not because he obviously sucked at correcting it. The Bills’ DB’s have the talent to stay with receivers, they just aren’t trained well enough on locating the ball. Once you figure out what the route is, run the route and look for the ball. They teach you that the first day of camp (in high school). The Denever game is a great example: Aaron Williams didn’t look back, penalty. Williams looks back late, catch. Looks back a little less late, pass break up. Looks back on time, interception.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 23, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I could be wrong...
But this is something I really noticed this year around the league, not just with our guys. It’s very frustrating to watch. I think I read somewhere that when a DB sees that WR’s eyes get big, (or something like that) that’s when you know the ball is coming, and they should turn around and look for it. DBs have a right to the ball just as much as the WR
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeeaaahhh but,
on the same token they teach receivers to keep their hands down and eyes flat until right before the ball arrives. There’s really no excuse for it. These guys are elite athletes, they should be able to run full speed with their head turned to the side. As I mentioned above, QB’s know that if the DB ain’t looking it doesn’t matter how well he’s being “covered.” That’s why well timed back-shoulder throws are so nasty, they are literally uncoverable: it looks like a go-route so you turn n’ run but have no play on the ball because you can’t see it.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
even so....
they teach receivers to keep their hands down and eyes flat until right before the ball arrives.
At some point the wideout has to look for the ball. When your guy turns his head to look for the ball, the DB should as well. When those eyes light up it’s close. I’m sure there are other “tells” as well. I think we are agreeing in some round about away…
That’s why well timed back-shoulder throws are so nasty, they are literally uncoverable
So true. That play is a DB killer. I’d throw in that jump ball, fade to the back corner of the EZ when your 5’10" DB is going at a 6’4" WR.
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 23, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
another thing....
These guys are elite athletes, they should be able to run full speed with their head turned to the side.
maybe this style of play is being coached up due the limitations placed on the DBs today in order emphasize production on offense. DBs can’t take the chance of turning their head and running into the receiver in order to avoid some of the ridiculous PI calls that have become the norm…
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
@MonStarr_716
You aren’t wrong at all. DB technique has gotten poor. I watch a lot of ball from H.S. to the pros and DB’s not turning and looking for the rock was something I saw A LOT OF at every level. I don’ t know what the hell is going on with the coaching…
my best guess is above…
Sure, Fitz aced the Wonderlic test...but he does not pass the Eyeball test...
by MonStarr_716 on Jan 23, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
They say that good enough is the enemy of great (or something like that)
I don’t think the Bills are really strong enough anywhere to pass up the proverbial “best player available” regardless of position. With their recent draft history (aside from last year) they really need the surest of the sure things they can find.
…except RB.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 23, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Pass Rush
I think if the Bills can find 2-3 guys that can put pressure on the quarterback then our db’s will look a lot better. Maybe Campbell from Arizona and our 1st rounder?
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
Even one player that can get consistent pressure
Bills rarely blitzed because corners couldn’t play press defense well. The best games in the secondary came when Bills confused the opposing QB’s with zone defenses.
Team Turnarounds
Also watched “Team Turnarounds” on NFL Network yesterday, about teams that turned from bad to good in one season. Here’s to hoping that next year’s Bills are in the next version of that show!
rogers..
Rogers reminds me a lot of mcgee when he was a youngster. Great athletic ability, with good return ability. He showed flashes this year (a few endzone breakups if I recall correctly). I really like his potential to be a starter here in the not too distant future
by bizarro bills on Jan 23, 2012 12:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You'd better hope
he never starts for this team. Rogers is a match-up nightmare. He’s a shrimp. If he can cover another team’s slot receiver I’ll be more than happy with that.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not so much. hes 15lbs lighter than Revis, and the same height. Weight can be added pretty easily in the NFL weight room. Get the guy up to 190 or 195, and I think he will be just fine.
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by Eric Murawski on Jan 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Tell that to antoine winfield
by bizarro bills on Jan 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't tell him that...
but I would say that to any other corner who is listed at 5’10" 180 lbs. But do really even want Antoine Winfield going up for a goaline fade, either? As good as he was I sure don’t.
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I just still don’t get your argument. I would say 5’10" is pretty close to average when it comes to cb height in the NFL. Not to mention most players put on weight after their first year after going through a year of NFL conditioning. Not to mention if a cb has excellent leaping ability, the difference between a 5’10" corner and a 6’ corner is minimal. Hoping a guy never turns into anything because he’s “only 5’10” and 180lbs" is ridiculous in my opinion. No offense.
by bizarro bills on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
@ForeignArrow
No he’s not a shrimp at all. He’s 5’11. Taller than a lot of CB’s in the league. He just needs to get stronger. But he’s got the speed and athleticism to stay with receivers.
Keep McKelvin
I think we should keep McKelvin. The cost of keeping him is low and you can never have enough depth at this position. He is still young and very athletic, perhaps he is still salvageable. Also, I think he is the kind of aggressive corner that would benefit from a pass rush, which wouldn’t require him to cover as long as he’s had to in past years.
I think McGee needs to be let go. His salary is huge and he is hurt way to often. He was a great Bill and I will always be a fan of his, but his time has come.
D-Flo, A. Williams, J. Rodgers, McKelvin, 1 FA and 1-2 draftees is where I think we’ll end up.
FA CB's
There are two FA CB’s I’d like to see us pursue. Arron Ross (NYG) and Cortland Finnegan (Titans). If we could land either one the position would look much stronger overall.
by Buffalo Bird on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
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Aaron Ross is not good. Finnegan, yes? If for no other reason than his attitude and physicality. Bills need both. He’s also a good player.
Keep McKelvin?
I could not disagree more strongly!
Buffalo’s coaching staff has not been comfortable with McKelvin on the field for two years now, and even if he’s back in 2012, it’s tough to imagine him having a large role immediately.
McKelvin may be the most frustrating player I have ever watched. What makes my blood boil about him is that he has the speed and athleticism to stay on the heels of any WR in the NFL! He does the hardest part of a CB’s job, which is preventing separation, and he makes it look easy!
But, as amazing as he is at running with a receiver, Leodis McKelvin completely negates that talent by demonstrating the worst ball skills I have ever seen. It’s like he forgets that he has arms when he’s defending! For his entire career in Buffalo, McKelvin has had receivers catch defensible balls. And no play exemplified that weakness more than during week 4 of the 2011 season when ROOKIE AJ Green reached over McKelvin’s shoulders, caught the pass in front of Leo’s face (while Leo left his arms at his sides), and pulled the ball up over Leo’s head into his own chest for the completion. Leo saw the ball coming and simply needed to lift an arm and place one finger on the ball to disrupt the catch. But it didn’t happen.
Leo has made a couple nice plays for the Buffalo Bills, and I believe that we would not have beat the Pats in 2011 were it not for his interception on Tom Brady in Week 3. I am grateful for that. But, that was his only interception of the year, and he gave up a lot of yards and a lot of touchdowns that I can’t ignore. I mean, Vince Wilfork had more interceptions than Leodis McKelvin this season! That is a problem.
Keep McKelvin? No chance you’ll ever sell that to me.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed - keep McKelvin.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — people are too hard on cornerbacks because it’s the easiest person to blame when there’s a big play. There is no such thing as a corner who never gets beat. Our corners are absolutely fine if there is any semblance of a pass rush. That is the problem. McKelvin may never live up to his draft status but that doesn’t mean he’s not a good athlete at a good price. If he and McGee are both gone, I think we’ll very quickly come to regret the lack of experience at that position.
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by Sawyer in Boston on Jan 23, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
- Florence looked worse the longer the season went on. By the end of the season, it seemed like he was doing only two things — grabbing the receivers to prevent them from blowing by (and taking a penalty in the process), or watching them blow by for a huge play. He seems to have lost a step or three and can’t keep up any more, especially when there is no pass rush to force a quick throw. Of all the veteran CBs on the squad, he’s the one I would least like to see return for next season.
- McGee is their best corner, but it seems doubtful that he will ever stay healthy for an entire season any more.
- McKelvin seems to get good position, but he just can’t seem to make a play. He might still be salvaged if the coaching staff can figure out just what it is that he’s missing. At least his problem isn’t speed.
- Williams looked good despite major some rookie mistakes. He should win one of the starting positions next year.
- Corner is a corner only in name. He is frequently out of position and can’t make plays. I was happy when he was cut at the end of preseason, disappointed when injuries forced the Bills to bring him back.
- I didn’t see Rogers or Prince Whoever enough to make any judgments yet.
- I thought that the Bills would have been most likely to take a CB in the first round up until Dre Kirkpatrick got arrested for pot possession. Now, I think this will be a position the Bills will have to find in rounds 2-4 to find somebody to eventually pair with Williams.
by SiriusRed on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What is McKelvin missing?
McKelvin seems to get good position, but he just can’t seem to make a play. He might still be salvaged if the coaching staff can figure out just what it is that he’s missing.

THIS!
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t want to knock you down if that’s your artwork, but that dude’s forearms are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry elongated.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ha. Not my artwork. Just good ol' Google Images.
But, McKelvin just needs to PUT HIS ARMS UP!
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps elongated forearms would have stopped Moore or Bryant from catching those balls over him. Just sayin’
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shut it down
I think this group needs a total re-vamping; I’d pull the plug on this project. McGee cannot be counted on so cut ties. The jury is no longer out on McKelvin- he flat-out stinks, so abandon all hope. I’d release Florence too and replace him with another vet in free agency considering his play declining for two consecutive seasons. Williams and Rogers will need to totally step up because the three vets who started 2011 ahead of them have worn out their welcome. Shut it down.
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exactly – this position is awful. but then again so are lots of positions. I don’t want McGee or Florence on our team anymore. McKelvin as a nickel or dime is o.k. but not top 2.
Williams took some big lumps so we’ll see but he could be a solid #2 – we need a blue chipper here and to get rid of the slow useless players (McGee, Florence)
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The Bills are in trouble with so many needs. Though I guess they can’t miss on finding exceptional talent when so many positions are screaming for it. I still say they need a player capable of taking away the tight end, and do understand that CB isn’t usually responsible for that. The Patriots may be changing that line of thinking. So, then, should the Bills in finding players able to stop Gronkowski, Hernandez, Keller, and Fasano.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions
history repeats itself (regularly, when it's Bills history)
Though I guess they can’t miss on finding exceptional talent when so many positions are screaming for it.
I wouldn’t be so sure :-)
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I’m beginning to grow frustrated. If I as a fan feel this way, I can’t imagine how in-house management and coaching feels.
At this rate, they’ll never be in position to draft a top-shelf QB. Always adding just enough talent to not be the worst, but never be great. Keeping them from drafting studs with no equal at the positions of greatest importance.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Larger... more physical corners please!
McKelvin is 5-10 and a buck 84 (past). Aaron Williams is 6’0" and 203… (present). The corners in our league need to be able to play bump and run and be physical at the line of scrimage. Bills need to adjust personnel to be larger and more physical. Williams and Searcy started that trend in the back field. Rodgers will not be a starting CB, but rather the nickel or dime back. Where the guy has to be very quick and stay on a Welker like glue.
Florence has the size… but plays with too many hands and is often penalized for his lack of speed on the outside. McGee is a good cover corner that is smart but his body is breaking down later in his career and we can only expect so much with him.
They’ll probably draft at least another 2 CB’s this year, even ones with higher draft picks.
I could see 2 CB's drafted and 1 brought in via FA.
Id expect a CB in the top 3 rounds and then a later round one, plus a decent CB in FA.
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If you’re going Canadian, go a step up and choose Upper Canada’s Rebellian Lager.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
@dabillsr1
McKelvin’s probalem isn’t physicality. If he could play the ball he would be all pro at 5’10. He mis-times jumps, doesn’t turn and look for the ball at the right moment or fails to get his hand up in time to knock the ball down. That’s a focus/mental issue not a height issue.
I would add that McKelvin goes for too many double moves, gives up too much of a cushion and
does not intercept footballs regularly as his other flaws too.
I think it is a mental issue in the fact that he doesn’t know how to channel his physical ability to be more smooth out there and not so reactionary. He plays too much in his head and can’t get out of the way of his brain sometimes.
McKelvin has a brain?
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Tough Spot
Bills fans would be wise to accept the fact that cornerback is very much in play with the team’s No. 10 overall pick.
Not sure any needs can be filled with # 10 this year. Pass rushers are suspect, cb’s should be gone by then (LSU cb) and for WR Blackmon will be gone, anyone else is a reach. After Luck and Griffin, only Tannehill offers anything remotely resembling value here. This year more than any other I hope we trade down and get another pick or two.
???
Why not Upshaw at 10, he is stout against the run an can rush the passer…
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way too soon to stress about this. im not opposed to trading down, but my guess is we feel much better about our options here as the draftniks spend more and more time hyping players going into the draft. Don’t forget their will be some nice OT options here too. As much as it doesnt feel like a huge need, if you can take a great OT prospect, you do it. Between the OLBs, a possible CB (kirkpatrick would also be nice) or an OT, I think there will be value at ten.
If what you say is right, the value looks bad at ten across the board, who the heck would want to trade with us? Al Davis is dead.
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by greysquirrel on Jan 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Not stressed about it all, just not excited about the potential prospects that would be around at 10.
but my guess is we feel much better about our options here as the draftniks spend more and more time hyping players going into the draft
good point, happens every year.
I think someone would trade with us IF the right prospect slips or is there at 10. Richardson comes to mind or an OT that I don’t thing Bills brass would pull the trigger on unless Nix changes his MO.
And if you think we have problems... look at the Patriots with one of the worst pass defeneses
in the league (by rating), plus they are starting a special teamer and offensive wide receiver as their nickel back. (After doing the same with Troy Brown for years) Yet they some how are in the superbowl again even with all the draft picks they acquire. Heck Steve Moore wasn’t even on a pro squad and wasn’t drafted this year and he makes the biggest defensive play of the year for their team against Lee Evans!
The Pats find football players
Sweet Lou Piccone and Steve Tisker a Tasker could have played nickel for us too if we asked them because they were players in every sense of the word. Every successful NFL team as 2-3 guys that you can just plug in multiple spots and have them make plays because they are smart and have enough physical ability to use their smarts to get the job done.
by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jan 23, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
offensive wide receiver
As opposed to a Defensive Wide Receiver?
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions
Defensive Wide Receiver...
I think there are a few guys that come to mind besides Endelman. Troy Brown already mentioned.. George Wilson, who converted obviously. Plus any other WR who is put in for defense on the Hail Mary pass. So sure… defensive WR.
Most of our WR’s were offensive this year. (rimshot)
by BuffaloRepresent on Jan 23, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or defensive because they were good at knocking the ball down.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 23, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Touche
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Jan 23, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions
McKelvin
While he has obviously not played the role of a number 1 pick, someone said it earlier: he has real athletic ability with good size, speed, “quick twitch”, and leaping ability. My hope would be that “Wannny” would be able to get him to play the ball better. He’s cheap and a great punt returner so cutting him only makes sense if he is absolutely hopeless in training camp again. Its kind of sad but that the Bill need major help in pass rush and at DB when they high drafted for these positions just 3 and 4 years ago.
This is an overrated position.
Look at the Patriots and their CBs. I know they have Tom Brady and we don’t. but the pass rush is the most important aspect of football behind QB play. Get some great LBs and the defense will be great. But we still need to draft a CB, I would say around the 3-4 round. And pick one up in FA.
You are now Watching The Throne.
McKelvin Re-make himself on special teams
I don’t think parrish will be back. I like justin rodgers and spiller, but McKelvin would be a great asset on special teams. Our special teams was not dangerous till late in the season and part of that was McKelvin at returner.
He can make his plays there. Worse comes to worse if he gets injured we are not losing a slot cornerback. Instead of our back up running back or rodgers who could be our 3rd corner.
We need one more big corner we should get Trumaine Johnson out of Montana.

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