2012 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's Top Five By Position
by Brian Galliford on Jan 24, 2012 1:02 PM EST
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The 2012 Senior Bowl has been taking place in Mobile, Alabama this week, and as such, 2012 NFL Draft talk has been ramping up in some circles. We're easing into it this year thanks in large part to the fact that free agency will precede the draft as usual once again - and there isn't a better way to be eased in than by Mike Mayock of the NFL Network.
Mayock released his top five prospects by position earlier today, and in typical Mayock fashion, he's got more than a few surprises thrown in. (Keep in mind that a "surprise," in this case, is how he ranks players as opposed to the Mel Kipers and armchair scouts of the world.)
After the jump, we'll take a look at Mayock's top five players at four positions that have been widely projected as potential Round 1 targets for the Buffalo Bills: wide receiver, offensive tackle, cornerback and pass rushers.
WIDE RECEIVER
1. Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
2. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
3. Kendall Wright, Baylor
4. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
5. Chris Givens, Wake Forest
OFFENSIVE TACKLE
1. Riley Reiff, Iowa
2. Matt Kalil, USC
3. Jonathan Martin, Stanford
4. James Brown, Troy
5. Zebrie Sanders, Florida State
PASS RUSHER
1. Quinton Coples, North Carolina
2. Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
3. Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
4. Nick Perry, USC
5. (tie) Chandler Jones, Syracuse
5. (tie) Andre Branch, Clemson
* Courtney Upshaw ranked as top linebacker
CORNERBACK
1. Morris Claiborne, LSU
2. Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
3. Alfonzo Dennard, Nebraska
4. Leonard Johnson, Iowa State
5. Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
We'll have much more on these prospects, as well as many more, in the coming months. For now, which of these prospects are among your early favorites?
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This is the first time I’ve seen anyone other than Kalil ranked as the top OT. Also, first time I’ve seen Kirkpatrick ranked that low on the CB list.
I’m currently on the Mercilus train for Buffalo’s pick at #10.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions
Mercilus and Dareus entering the RWS playing field, ashes are falling from the sky, fires are burning in the stadium lots, drums are beating in the stands…
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Next year we draft Hercules!!!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 24, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
He is a high character guy....just one weakness :-)
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
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Sure you’re not thinking of Achilles?
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Or
Baldr?
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
LOL....no, his weakness was women
which much like many of us, led to his death :-)
Death of Hercules
The Immortalization of Hercules
Hercules was married to Deianeira. One day, long after Hercules’ marriage to Deianeira, the centaur Nessus offered to ferry them across a wide river that they had to cross. Nessus set off with Deianeira first, but tried to abduct her. When Hercules realized the centaur’s real intention, Hercules chased after him and shot him with an arrow which was poisoned with Hydra’s blood. Before he died, Nessus told Deianeira to take some of his blood and treasure it, since it was a very powerful medicine and: if she ever thought Hercules was being unfaithful, the centaur told her, the blood would restore his love. Deianeira kept the vial of blood.
Many years after that incident she heard rumours that Hercules had fallen in love with another woman. She smeared some of the blood on a robe and sent it to Hercules by a servant named Lichas. Lichas spilled some blood on the floor and when the sun’s rays fell on it the blood begun to burn. Because of this Deianeira began to suspect Nessus’s advice and decided to send another servant to fetch Lichas back before he could hand over the blood soaked robe to Hercules. She was too late. Hercules had already put on the robe and when he did so the blood still poisoned from the same arrow used by Hercules, burnt into his flesh. When he jumped into a nearby river in hope of extinguishing the fire, it only made it worse. When he tried to rip off the robe from his body his organs were also ripped off with it.
Furiously, Hercules caught Lichas and tossed him into the sea. After that he told his friend Philoctetes to build him a pyre on the mountain Oata. He was burnt to death on the pyre. Before dying, Hercules offered his bow and arrows as a token of gratitude to Philoctetes. His father Zeus then turned him into a god. Deianeira, after hearing what she had caused, committed suicide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
Certainly a more manly way of dying than getting killed by mistletoe.
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
lmao @ pine
RED HULK: Pos: OLB, Height: 6'4, Weight: 1,040 .. 0.5 ON THE 40 ... uummm looks like we found our NEW OLB BOYS!
by khameleon59 on Jan 25, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Kirkpatrick
I wasn’t impressed with Dre this season. I think that he benefited from playing on a defense that put constant pressure on a quarterback and was flat out dominant. He deserves credit for being a part of that, but I think he was more of a benefactor than a contributor.
Didn’t he also just get busted for possession? Maybe he will be there in the 2nd round!
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
yes, he got busted
He was arrested for possession of pot. Up until that point, I thought it might be between him and Claiborne, depending on which one was still available at #10. The arrest will almost certainly scare the Bills away, and Kirkpatrick might even drop out of the first round as a result.
by SiriusRed on Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Id risk taking him in round 2 if he does
by bizarro bills on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Upshaw weighed in at senior bowl he was.6 ft 1 and 273lbs. I have not been able to find his arm measurements but I see no chance chix takes him. They are so attached to measurables.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
31 inches
I’ve heard
flayed ones stealth mode
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Coples
I have read a lot of bad things about Coples lately, but everyone still has him ranked as their top Pass Rusher….whats the deal with that?
I think its a combination of less sacks this year compared to last year and he doesn’t have the athletic prowess of some of the other pass rushers. He’s also more strictly a de prospect as far as I have heard.
by bizarro bills on Jan 24, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Coples dominates when he wants to thats the problem. He really turned it on at the senior bowl and has been unblockable. Coples is a boom or bust prospect. He is either gonna be albert haynesworth or julius peppers. Thats the problem and its a risk I do not want buffalo taking.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ingram
The guy that is growing on me is Melvin Ingram. Can play DE or OLB. Just wish he was a bit taller.
I like Ingram too
although I don’t know if he would be as good at OLB, if the Bills were switching to more 4-3 looks however I would be very interested in him at end.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 24, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ingram is basically the same size as Upshaw, probably won’t be a bill.
We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen
by cencalclassics on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
i picked whitney mercilus in my post yesterday, but
a different angle became visible to me….
dont’a hightower… i think he is perfect for us…reasons
1. we dont have anyone other than barnett and sheppard to start in 4-3… we might if we re-sign morrison.
2. first time in years our linebackers would be awesome barnett, hightower, sheppard.
3. in 3-4 looks he can move to OLB. Many here have indicated he has rushing ability. so he is truly MLB/ILB/3-4 OLB/4-3 OLB, everything
4. he obviously has the size advantage over a guy like upshaw. many here suggested he might even be better than upshaw in rushing skill
5. about the size, he is 6’4 260 lbs. fits nix’s mold. by the way, same size as urlacher.
6. he was as highly touted as his teammate rolando mcclain. only reason he dropped was a season ending knee injury.
7. his stock can rise back to mcclain’s level if he runs a 40 in 4.6s. that would do away the assumption that the knee injury has slowed him down.
8. i think he is much further along and has higher potential than mcclain.
9. despite barnett’s awesome season, he is injury prone. he gets injured every other year based on recent history. with hightower, our future can be hightower, sheppard, barnett or morrison.
Yah I have thought for a bit hightower has nix written all over it. Size check, Versatilty check, from a bigger program check, on field leader check, sourthern bm program check.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
exactly the guy I want.
At this point I want the Bills to get Brockers or Hightower.
You are now Watching The Throne.
by tomcs on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
forgot to mention
10. he is from bama, teammate of dareus… but you all know that anyway
by statcruncher on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
at this stage
I really think Hightower’s stock rises until April, definitely a lot of potential there.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 24, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Fairley
Last year at this time fairley was suppose to go to the panthers at number 1. These ratings will change twice a day everyday til the draft. Although the prospect of getting upshaw at 10 and Jeffery at 42 if the rankings stay this way is filling me with hope for the 2012 season
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mayock does not seem to fluctiate his rankings as much as other people imo.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 1:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why didn’t QB make this list? Because QB hasn’t been mocked to us?
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Because qb has not beem widely considered one of the positions we would take at ten
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and in 2010 RB wasn’t mocked by the vast majority. Who cares what is mocked to us? We should be focusing on what could happen. Nix could take Tannenhill for all we know because QB is a need and the most important need on the roster.
I see no reason why QB shouldn’t be on this list
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
You asked and I answered. I do not see njx taking a qb. I saw the spiller pick coming though thats me. Me and my dad where talking about we could see the bills taking a running back if they thought he was one of those special guys
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I do not see njx taking a qb
I don’t either – I think there is almost no chance the Bills take a QB but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be included. It’s one of our teams biggest needs and you never know how a draft will shake out.
are we going to ignore QB this entire draft because Nix won’t take one?
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
simple answer is
yes. Obviously, that was what Brian wanted. No use in listing a position that they don’t feel is a position of need. The focus of this article and draft is on need.
The point if the post is showing us guys that are positions we are likly to take and you admit that we are not likly to take a qb.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The point if the post is showing us guys that are positions we are likly to take
and we were likely to take Spiller? That’s my point – QB and Tannenhilll should be on this list. Ponder went at 12 last year and he was looked at as a 2nd round pick.
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Your still missing the point and over thinking it. Its about who buffalo is likly to pick position wise at ten. Not what if buffalo trades up or down or what if they pick trent richardson. You also agreed that nix will not take a qb. Yet you argue stringly for qb on yhe list here they are. If your interested though mayocks top five is
1. Andrew Luck stanford
2. Robert Griffin baylor
3. Ryan tannehill texas a&m
4. brandon Weeden oklahoma state
T5. Nick foles arizona
Brock osweiler
Ryan lindley
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 2:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want them to take Osweiler
Probably in the 2nd or most likely 3rd.
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I think it was Wes Bunting
But Nick Foles is not getting good reviews at Senior Bowl.
by TedWashington'sRobotDance on Jan 24, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Because we just gave out the largest QB contract in franchise history, and there’s no way they’re going to have 2 QBs making starter money on the roster.
by Ian MacPersonoid on Jan 24, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Because there’s no way in hell that one the Bills like will fall all the way to No. 10.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so Buddy can’t trade up? Buddy won’t like Tannenhill? Buddy won’t trade up late in the 1st in the 2nd for Tannenhilll or someone if he likes him?
I just don’t understand one of this teams biggest needs being left off of this list. It strikes me as peculiar.
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Nix will not trade up for two reasons
One. He lets the draft come to him
Two. There are so many holes to fill that wasting picks to get one player isnt a good thing to do
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this
Luck and Griffin will be long gone by the time the Bills pick, and it seems very unlikely that Nix would trade up to get either one. Tannehill has very limited college experience at QB, and he will miss the Senior Bowl and combine because of foot surgery, so he seems like far too much of a risk for Nix to take him. No other QB this year is worth taking that high.
by SiriusRed on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No other QB this year is worth taking that high.
yet people want Coples at 10 – I wouldn’t touch him at 10. Have you seen him play? he gets lazy too often for me. I understand the reasoning – I don’t agree with it
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
It may just end up being a OT. Really safe non sexy pick that wont be a big reach. This draft seems pretty deep in LB’s for pass rush and addressing WR in a deep free agency pool also seems pretty plausible.
by eriesimmer on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
agreed – that’s actually what i’ve been thinking for a while now. I think they’ll just go OT and be done with it because it’s a need and it’s safe.
although I do like big fat linemen so it’d be o.k. with me depending who was on the board
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
If they are not going QB, I really don't care who they pick
This team has so many holes they can’t go wrong as long as they don’t pick another Whitner.
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
i did some research showing that there's like a 4% chance that nix and gailey draft a qb
but how do you put a table in a fanpost? :S anyone?
easiest to put it into word and copy and paste it
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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
id be interested to see that. 4% is pretty close to 0%, right?
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
Nope....ironically, that 4 % chance is the same odds of
the plane flying CHIX to the draft crashing and killing everyone on board.
"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden
"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu
actually i lied
coaches in gailey’s situation tended to draft qbs at a 15% rate. But virtually all of them were drafted deep, DEEP in the draft (round 7 or, in the 80s, later!).
since 1980, only two coaches with similar winning% to Gailey in a hot seat year drafted QBs in the 1st round. can you guess what coaches/what QBs?
I'm guessing they will take a pass rusher
CB – Good chance Claiborne goes in the top nine. Kirkpatrick screwed up big time by getting caught with pot. Dennard and Jenkins are shorter guys (5’10"), so I don’t know if they will make as big an impression on Nix.
LT – Yes, there are several good options, but it seems like a marginal upgrade over Bell and Hairston. The likelihood of picking a tackle will certainly go up if Bell is not re-signed.
DE/OLB – This may depend a lot on the Senior Bowl and combine, but I think the bills will find somebody they like enough to take at #10. The lack of a pass rush was obvious, and we need better/durable OLBs if we want to stick with a 3-4. Kelsey is a 4-3 DE, and Merriman seems unlikely to survive an entire season as an every-down player. The scheme they choose for next year may determine if they pick Coples (4-3) or Upshaw (3-4).
WR – Blackmon will almost certainly be gone by the time the Bills pick. Jeffery and Floyd have the kind of size that Nix is looking for. Picking a WR depends somewhat on whether or not they think Marcus Easley will ever play, and if he does, will he be a beast or a bust?
by SiriusRed on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Free agency is also looking really interesting this year. We could fill several holes need wise giving us a much clearer draft picture sooner then later. I don’t expect high profile but I do expect activity.
by eriesimmer on Jan 24, 2012 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree about the OT's
When Bell has been healthy he has been an acceptable LT. These guys are all studs at there position and well theres no guarantee they’re going to be all pros they certainly have more upside than Bell did coming out of college. I think if Kalil or Reiff is there we should take them no questions asked. Build from the inside out both on offense and defense. That means in the last two first rounds we would hopefully havent gotten the anchors of our offensive and defensive lines.
Picking a WR depends somewhat on whether or not they think Marcus Easley will ever play, and if he does, will he be a beast or a bust?
Easley is the perfect type of guy to have as a backup plan. Lots of physical ability, but hasn’t put it together yet. I don’t think he can a third great WR on the team. Or even trade bait at some point later. Either way, we should be stacking talent on talent, just like Nix has said.
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Brian
Can you do a write-up on each guy that you listed on this post? I’d imagine some of us don’t have any idea what the pros and cons of each guy is.
Yeah Brian,
I would love it if you would type up the most pertinent information on the top 300 prospects this year. Also, would you mind whipping up a breakdown of all the contestants in this past years Miss America Pageant. Thanks! :)
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last year
The writers did a write up on the top 13 prospects that they thought the Bills would take. I don’t find it too far fetched to review most of the players on this list. They must think one of the 20 guys on this list will be the Bills pick if they are the only ones listed in this article.
I hear you. I was just cracking wise at how early we start calling for in depth write ups on these potential picks. There are still 93 days until the draft with events such as the senior bowl, combine, and pro days off in the horizon as well. I’m sure there will be in depth analysis on these guys, but do we really need it before all these other events take place?
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why not? the seasons over. the tapes all out there. combine and predraft stuff may shift these players around a bit (on the mayock/talking head side, not so much the actual NFL scouting side), but either way the top two or three rounds worth of guys could be reasonably predicted right now, so why not get familiar with them?
plus theres really nothing else to talk about relative to bills football besides draft prospects..
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
You do realize that those reports take a ton of time to do accurately?
And the way we did them last year, we did five reports on all thirteen players. I don’t know about Brian and Matt, but spent a lot of late nights rewatching video of each player to make sure I saw what I thought I saw the first time through.
That all said, I’m sure we’ll put together something.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
all the more reason to start early :) which is kind of what i was trying to say… at pick 3 we (this site) ended up with 13 possibilities. 13 for pick 3. how many will we end up with for pick 10?
unless you want someone like me flooding the fan post section with them, the point i was making up there was that theres really not much else going on, anyway
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
unless you want someone like me flooding the fan post section with them …
Too late.
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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.
by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 24, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Brian and Matt will come up with some schema for this year
Last year’s format may be undoable. We did five reports on every players. If we gave the 10th pick a fair shake, we’d have to do 25-ish players, and would have to put together around 75 reports.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
that's crazy
unless you are deciding to give up your life!
DJ, everything you do for us is already above and beyond. If someone craves in depth assessment to the level you mention, I suggest they get busy and start digging!
No one can be expected to do (or expect to see) 75 reports.
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by fansince60 on Jan 24, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
At #3 and also with no other off-season reporting going on because of lockout you can do deeper analysis on likely picks. At #10 far too many permutations to try and report.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
by Billsdownunder on Jan 24, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
@DJ Don't do it.
Wasted time. Go wrestle with the wife is time better spent.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
5 × 25 is actually 125.
And no, I don’t think we’re doing 125 reports!
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
no reason to......all you have to do is the top 15 players on Kiper's Big Board
the Bills are a lock to pick one of them.
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Mayock/ guess
I trust Mayock as a voice worth listening to amongst hundreds not worth it during my most hated “event” on the sports calendar- the modern NFL Draft. Obviously, the 10th pick (and this draft as a whole) is one of Chix’s big bullets and they absolutely can’t miss on it, so I’m very interested, but the bluster surrounding this event remains absurd to me. Reading the tea leaves collected from Buffalo’s PR machine since their season collapsed dramatically, my suspicion says WR at 10. I’ll guess Floyd using Mayock’s rankings.
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Floyd has some character concerns and nix has been about high character guys.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shawn merriman is diffrent. He was a guy nix knew and was a fa not a draft pick. In nux’s two years drafting here the closest thing to a drafted character concern was marcell dareus. That was not marcells fault his friend never tild him the plain ticket was bought by a alumn
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I still think
Floyd is a slam dunk for whoever takes him.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think Floyd
Is a much better NFL prospect than Tate.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
OFFENSIVE TACKLE
1. Riley Reiff, Iowa
2. Matt Kalil, USC
3. Jonathan Martin, Stanford
WOW! Riley Reiff ahead of Matt Kalil????
by BuffaloFanFromCT on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
Im not too suprised
Kalil has been benefiting from his brother being a beast in the nfl for a while.
Interesting
Good possibility that either Reiff or Kalil could drop to us. Not 100% by any means, but better than 1/3 I’d figure.
At WR
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 24, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions
PASS RUSHER!!
I have faith in nix and chan in the first round but, if by some strange twist of luck Chandler Jones is ther in the second round he would be a steal..
I could also see Foles sky-rocket. He had an absolutely brutal supporting cast, but Foles is a very good QB with good feet, arm, mind, and presence. If he was on a collegiate power house like USC, OSU, Florida etc. He’d be undoubtedly a top 10 pick.
Kenny Powers is back!
He also can not throw a spiral to save his life.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If your talking about Foles
He also can not throw a spiral to save his life
Thats so wrong………………………….I don’t even have words.
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I have seen nick foles use his arm to power through alot of bad releases or what ever he.does. Alot of times he throws a really sloppy spiral a wobbler and.uses his arm power to get the ball there. I am talking about a tight spiral something he has problems doing.
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by matthew62 on Jan 24, 2012 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've been on the Foles wagon since last season
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=35005
Pros:
A tall, strong-armed quarterback prospect who spins a clean football and with ease can make all the throws.
Does a decent job-manipulating defenses, looking off receivers to one side and coming back to his primary target.
Has experience both from the gun and under center, balances his feet quickly into throws, transfers his weight well and can accurately fit the football into tight areas on all levels of the field.
Cons:
However, accuracy and mechanics both become inconsistent when he feels pressure
But is slow to decipher information at times.
Is a bit inconsistent on his bucket throws down the field. Has a tendency to under throw vertically when he needs to put more touch on the pass
Impression:
A big, strong-armed passer who has the tools physically. Made some real strides as a quarterback as a senior without much talent around him. Is going to take some time, but is an potential starting caliber pocket passer.
I agree with everything Bunting says, also no mention of throwing ducks, on a consistent basis, which I didn’t see when I watched him play either.
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i dont know that a tight spiral is absolutely necessary
peyton manning is known for throwing some rather comical balls… and having them land in exactly the right place, for 15 years.
I haven’t seen Foles play, but his throws couldn’t be anywhere near the level of Tim Tebow badness. Tebow can’t throw a spiral at all. By all reports, Foles is a good pocket passer, and I would love to see the Bills grab him if he’s still available in the second round. Due to the lack of top-level QB prospects this year, he might go late in the first round.
by SiriusRed on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not true. He throws a great ball in general. Accurate and has a monster arm. His only true weakness is his mobility, but I’d prefer a good arm on my QB than good legs anyday
Kenny Powers is back!
And he's a big dude
That can shrug off some giuys, so even then the mobility thing isn’t huge.
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My top 3
1) Michael Brockers
2) Nick Perry
3) Quentin Coples
by roamingbuffaloOFduffs on Jan 24, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions
There's this about Alshon Jeffery
http://www.wgr550.com/pages/12022322.php?pid=203395
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions
Quinton Coples
Why does everyone think he’s going to flame out? Sure he may have an attitude problem here or there or maybe some people say he “takes plays off” just because he didn’t put up enormous sack numbers this year, but I’ve watched some tape from some of his games (good and bad) on draftbreakdown.com. Although he doesn’t have those numbers you look for, he disrupts a TON more plays then people give him credit for and he was a hair away from a few sacks in just the videos ive seen. He’s also damn good against the run. I saw it in those videos and i watched NFL newtork’s senior bowl practice coverage today and he was blowing running plays up every time he was in. Maybe under George Edwards he would be a bust but I think Wannstedt can light a fire under his ass. I go to Pitt and I watched Dave turn a 2 star Greg Romeus into a sack machine and potential 1st rounder till he got hurt. Jabal Sheard too was a no name recruit and he’s doing damn well as a pass rusher. None of those guys have the physical gifts that Coples have, and you put him on a line with K.Will and Marcell and I think you got a damn good pash rusher in a year or 2.
The only thing that will stop him from being a pro bowler is himself and I don;t think his will to wreck his own career is strong enough to stop him from at least living up to 2/3 his potential. Guys Jason Pierre Paul on Roids. We take him at 10, I throw a finger up to God.
Yall have your opinions and that’s mine. Of course, wouldn’t complain about Upshaw either.
Would love to get Floyd with the 10th pick, though someone OBD should look at in the 2nd or 3rd round is Brian Quick from Appalachian State.
I think he was 6’3 1/2 220 lbs. and ran a 4.5 He also had some ridiculously long arms.
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not too many surprises here
I think Claiborne is low but most likely due to his recent arrest and Nick Perry is lower than I’d have thought. Reiff is the real surprise ahead of Kalil but as many posters have said so far a lot can change between now and April.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
I think Claiborne is low but most likely due to his recent arres
I think you mean Kirkpatrick.
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by Billsdownunder on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
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Can’t wait till april, My favorite part of the season made even better by Buddy Nix drafting good players.
Mercilus,coples,Jeffery, Any of the three top OT’s, or Trent Richardson would all make me happy at 10(yeah I said it). Floyd is possibly an alchoholic, and I just don’t see what others see. Ingram and Upshaw could be awesome players, but both are 6’1 at a position that usually calls for a taller player.
No matter how it goes I’m looking forward to it, and the draft is deep with pass rushers so if we don’t get one in the first, we can get one in the second. 1 pass rusher can get the bills where they need to be, Nix just needs to find him.
We have an elite pass rushing LB who likes to conserve electrcity-Munchausen
Sticking with Upshaw
Upshaw might be a tad shorter than the prototype OLB but he is just a dam good football player.
Just like last year when the Bills drafted Dareus they needed a building block for the D-Line, they need a building block for the LB unit. Not that Dareus & Upshaw don’t make the fancy highlite plays but they are solid players that bring it each and every game.
Plus, the Bama program is a team first program the defensive players are taught to play as a unit and stay in the scheme. You won’t see much free lancing going on with the Bama players to pad their stats.
Mayock doesn’t have Upshaw listed in the top 5 pass rushers but he does have him listed as the top overall LB and that is just what the Bills need!
I’m with the group that wouldn’t be shocked or disappointed if the Bills tab RB Richardson even though we have Spiller and Freddy. Richardson is the next Adrian Peterson…
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions
Nice so Jonathan Martin should be available at 10.
Although Im more of a fan of DeCastro, too bad the Bills are pretty set at Guard.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions
I don't understand.....
Again.
mike mayock’s link lists players by position, yet you have them listed as pass rushers. What gives?
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