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An Open Bet For Mario WIlliams

Ok this Mario Williams stuff has been driving me nuts lately. So instead of going on a rant about how he's not going to hit the open market (because in my mind, he's not) I figred that I might as well have a little fun with it. So here goes...

This is an open invite, Sireric make-a-post type gentleman's bet. Now seeing as betting the Williams will not be a Buffalo Bill would be too easy, I am willing to bet that the Texans will Tag and Trade Williams rather than let him walk.

So here are the terms of the bet:

-If I win (aka if the Texans Tag-And-Trade Williams) the loser will have to write a post stating my superiority.

-If I lose (aka if WIlliams hits the open market) I will write a post stating the winner's superiority.

-If Williams stays a Texans, it is a tie and neither party wins.

Added Adendum: If Mario Williams becomes a Bill by any means, I will cook and eat my left shoe, smuthered in gravy, with a side of mashed potatoes. And I will post picks. (also added a poll for the heck of it)

Now this is an open bet, but I will only take one person to go against. If you guys want to choose your reprisentative go ahead. Otherwise I'll pick the opponant.

So do I have any takers?

Poll
What do you think will come of the Mario Williams situation?
A - The Texans will Tag-And-trade him
41 votes
B - He will hit the open market as an Unrestricted Free Agent
29 votes
C - He will re-sign with the Texans
54 votes
D - He will become a Bill and make me eat my shoe
47 votes

171 votes | Poll has closed

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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I have one question about this

Say they sign and trade him to us. That could happen. Who would win? The people who are saying we would get him or you for saying he wouldn’t be a free agent? This is not an acceptance of any bet, just curious.

by cujodog on Jan 24, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

I think you answered your own question.

If the Texans sign/tag and then trade him to us, I would win because of the scenario.

Oh and I’m adding an adendum as to what I will do if Williams ends up being a Bill, by any means.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Also you could make it a 3 way contest

With someone taking the he stays with the Texans side.

by buffalo_bills on Jan 24, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Not gonna do that

Simply because it’s actually my belief that he’ll stay a Texan. I think they’ll figure something out. This is in the more likely case that he no longer remains a Texan.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Patriots are a good fit for him too – they have the ammo with picks as well.

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by J2 on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That is what scares me J2

Is you are right. The Pats have a lot of extra picks in this draft. They could easily make a package for him. Of course, the Browns are in good shape too, picks wise.

by suteck on Jan 24, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

sure....admit it...your not man enough for a 3 way ;-)

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Joe you have no idea. You really, really don’t.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

And I'm happy to keep it that way :-)

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Jan 24, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Awwww… but I really wanted to tell you!

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think

the Texans can keep him financially. i know they want too, but if I am not mistaken, they are pretty close to the cap as it is and still need to re sign Arian Foster and their Center.

You are now Watching The Throne.

by tomcs on Jan 24, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

JJ Watt, Brooks Reed and Conor Barwin are all young and performing fine. Mario Williams will cost a fortune and the Texans have to be having serious discussions behind close doors about showing him the door. The NFL doesnt have too many sign and trades like the NBA – I’d say its more likely than not that Mario Williams is the prized free agent this year.

If the Bills were smart they’d break the bank – I sure would. But I dont have the faith in the front office to do that. A 25 year old superstar at one of the hardest 4 positions to fill in the league is worth it.

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Jan 24, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh if he does make it to be a UFA then I'll be first in line to say they should break the bank for him.

But I’m so confident that it wont happen, or that at least he wont chose the Bills, that I’m willing to eat me left shoe if it does happen. Seriously, I will.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree on him not hitting free agency

I mean, if you were the Texans and you made it as far as you did with your third string QB and Brooks Reed, Connor Barwin and JJ Watt are demolishing offenses wouldn’t you save all that money and try to get your team a ring with some free agents at positions of need?

but I do understand the skepticism on the Bills doing what it takes to get him. But it sure would be fun to watch if they did …sigh…..

This even grates my passive cheese - LeClaire Bill

by poz on Jan 24, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

My main point is that the Texans don’t have to be under the cap until final cuts are done, so they can have Williams under a franchise tag all summer while figuring out what to do with him. With that in mind, why wouldn’t they tag him and trade him to the highest bidder?

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my point.

But some people think that they will simply let him walk away, which would be neurotic IMO. Fact is that an NFL team does not need to be under the cap until the final cuts before the season starts. Which gives them all summer to find someone to trade with after they tag him.

So letting him hit the open market would be insane while taking that into consideration.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been reading alot lately about this being in the Houston area and all, I believe I read they’ll be like 20 million over the cap. I personally think they’ll tag him if they can and trade him, but I’ll be surprised hell be staying. I’d be even more surprised if he ever became a bill

by jesterz21c on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hence why I’m posting this bet.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I recommend a nice red wine reduction. It will help soften up the leather.

by Morningw00d on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

ummm

TWSS. Nice name too…..

by suteck on Jan 24, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I recommend a nice red wine reduction. It will help soften up the leather.

A classic touch. I’m not sure what Julia Child has to say on the matter of cooking shoes, but I would rather boil it in a nice dark stout a la BeerBrat style than go the sweeter route that the red wine would add.

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No longer responding to said trolls passive aggressive posts.
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 24, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw high cuisine! I'm going to prep mine 'a la canadian français, tabarnak!

Slice it up in think long strips, deep fry it in pig fact, then smother in in fresh cheese curds and mushroom and beef gravy. Et voilà, a shoe poutine, ’sti!

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

err… thin long strips… dans ma folie j’ai oublié de checké pour des fautes.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo Rumblings

Where shoes are haute cuisine lol

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You sir have just created my new sig.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

W00t

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take you up on that partner

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Deal

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If I lose

I’ll do far better than that.

Little nervous about you wanting me to write it btw. lol Thats either good or bad.

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Nervous about how confident I am? I wonder why. lol

At least count yourself lucky you didn’t sign up to eat a shoe!

Worst part is I’m hoping to eat it. I’m just fairly certain I wont have to.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m in if it is a youtube video of you eating said shoe as long as I don’t have to do the same. The Bills have already made me swallow my pride on multiple occasions, so I’d rather not swallow my shoe too.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

And the powers that be had better put that video on the front page!

I think you are safe though as the Bills will never be able to fit him in their budget. Not a question of cheapness, just their way of doing business…they don’t get the Mario Williams of the world via free agency. I put that little disclaimer there b/c of an uproar I caused by trying to explain how he could never sign for the Bills b/c of how cash to the cap works. I just don’t see how they can do it. If they do, that’s awesome…I just don’t see how.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If they do, that’s awesome…I just don’t see how.

My thought exactly. It just wont happen.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Before I commmit, I need to know...

1) your shoe size
2) what flavor gravy you intend to use

Here's hoping!

by mcmaurer on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

1) I’m a size ten.
2) Since I’m french Canadian, Poutine sauce. Heck i might even toss a few curds on top for good measure.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

To bluecollarbuffalo and mcmaur

how about you guys sign up for the second bet? I’ll stand by my eating a shoe if Williams becomes a Bill, and if he doesn’t all you guys have to do is write the same kind of post mob16151 will write. Because he will write it. Eventually. * cue evil laugh *

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

1. Is this shoe used or new (not that I care, but its funny)
2. I’m on record saying it will never happen, but I think I’ll take that bet b/c it would be awesome.
3. I hope I don’t have the opportunity to write that post to you b/c I really want to see you eat a shoe. Oh, and Mario Williams would be nice too.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, it would be the regular shoe that I walk around with, minus any part that will kill me due to toxins (aka rubber), but the shoe itself, yes. And happy to know you now want to see Mario Williams as a Bill more to see me eat a shoe than to actually have him on our team.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

3. I hope I don’t have the opportunity to write that post to you b/c I really want to see you eat a shoe.

So does that mean that you will write a post if he doesn’t belong a Bil? Because I’m pretty sure that you just implied that you would.

PS you signing up will make the shoe thing official.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If the following are correct then I am in:

You say Mario W does not b/c a Bill, I say he does

If he does, you eat a size 10 shoe (minus the rubber) covered in some sort of French-Canadian Gravy. Don’t get sick b/c I would feel bad.

If he doesn’t I write a post telling you how right and awesome you are.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we have ourselves an arrangement.

And now I’m kind of wondering how a left-shoe-poutine would taste.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

And if you don’t know what a poutine is, it’s only the best thing to come out of Canada since Hockey, basketball, brain surgery and the zipper!

And here’s a link.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I know….I was just messing with you/summarizing your answers to all of the shoe questions.

Before you eat the shoe, be sure to google it and be sure it won’t kill you,

Thank you thank you thank you thank you sireric for bringing the furious punching cat back into my life. - poz

by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 24, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, oh I’ll make sure to make it safe. And I think that I may just make it into a poutine (with the shoe substituting the fries) if he does become a Bill. Just because I have to eat my shoe doesn’t mean I can’t try to make it tasty!

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

A late reply...

I actually think you are right and MW will never end up here.

If he does, you shouldn’t eat your shoe, you should treat yourself to your favorite meal and somehow make it LOOK like a shoe!

Here's hoping!

by mcmaurer on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

You do know

If they Franchise him and try to trade him knowing they are over the cap, other teams could play hard ball. They know he would have to either cut him, or others, to get under the cap. When the Pats played that game with Cassel, they were still under the cap.
I am not saying they won’t do that, nor am I betting you, but, it is a giant risk to sign someone who puts you over the cap and then try to trade him.

by suteck on Jan 24, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

It is going to be a risk. A very large risk.

So the question they the Texans really have is: Are they willing to risk having pay Williams $12.238M in order to cut IF no one trade with them? I’m willing to guess that yes they are.

My rational for that answer is that I think a team will still be willing to pay top price (somewhere between the Jay Cutler trade and the Jared Allen trade) in order to guarantee that they have Williams.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I notice nowhere is this shoe adequately described. There is more than enough wiggle room for it to be one of your first baby shoes.

.

When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 24, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Well I could either go with my size 10 all leather Skechers or my Chucky T’s.

Go ahead, doubt my sincerity again, I dare you.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not pictures of my actual shoes, but the exact same type as what I have.

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Whomever is taking this bet with CBF

you should request he goes with the Chucky pair. The top pair looks leathery, and thus too close to steak.

As of 1/17/2012
No longer feeding the Buffalo Rumblings resident troll.
No longer responding to said trolls passive aggressive posts.
Not even if he baits by replying to a comment of my own.
Not even if his reply is devoid of all logic and assumes opinion as fact.

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I just hope he doesn't

have athletes foot.

flayed ones stealth mode

"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."

by mob16151 on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No athletes foot...

I must admit, the feet sweat is a concern.

And Nordic, my preference would be the leather/steaky ones. lol

by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

But how would it stack up against “The 11th Century Viking Attacks of England?” A question for the ages.

"Everyone who has conducted an expedition will know how ready the world is to do the great injustice of heaping the whole praise or blame for its success or failure on the shoulders of the leader alone."
-Polar Explorer Fridtjof Nansen

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

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