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Morning Joe! Eliminating the Extra Point


Good morning Bills Nation,

Today's Joe will be about the idea of eliminating the extra point. According to the statistics on ESPN; the extra point success rate in the 2011 NFL season was at 99.64%. What I don't understand is why the NFL and the competition committee continue to allow this aspect of the game to exist. They change and review everything else, yet this waste of a play remains. It's almost laughable at times when I see half-hearted efforts by the opposing team to block an extra point. It's to the point now, where they don't even try. Just the other day I was watching the AFC Championship game with my wife and the Ravens scored a touchdown and she said "Ravens just scored 7 points on a Touchdown". I couldn't argue with her. Because in my mind I automatically assume seven points.

Check out this chart that shows the percentage of missed PATS from 1974-2007 (it's been about 1% since 2007 to present)

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So the truth of the matter is, is that kickers have gotten way to accurate and changes should be made to make this play more competitive. The number of missed PATs is down about 90% from 30 years ago.

Well here are some suggestions that the NFL should consider implementing. Don't be shy, let me see what you come up with.

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Alternatives:

  1. Moving the extra point line of scrimmage back- Now there are a lot of football purest who don't like the game changed; so eliminating the extra point entirely might be a real tough sale to "Joe Blow the Ultimate Fan". So I suggest moving the extra point kick to the 25 yard line, and the 2point conversion to 5 yard line. Now the extra point is like a 42 yard field goal (10 yards from the goal post and 7 yards from the line of scrimmage to where the ball is placed). Depending on the kicker and weather conditions; you just might see more 2 point conversions; making the extra point try a lot more exciting.
  2. Moving the extra point line of scrimmage forward- Now I know no one expected to hear this answer, but by moving the line extra point line up it adds more incentive for the 2 point attempt. Currently the 2 point conversion success rate is about 44%; imagine what it will be if it was at the 1 yard mark. More attempts and teams will think twice about settling for the 1 point play.
  3. Narrow the extra point kicking window- If you ever watched arena football, their field goal post is a lot narrower. Now I'm not saying narrow the post, but put a net up there during the extra point that has narrow window. Making the point a little more challenging
  4. Change the angle of the kick- Being a fan of Rugby; their extra point attempts are at an angle. If you can somehow change the angle of the kick, it will make the kicker a lot more challenging.
  5. Eliminate the extra point kick entirely- If you remember the late XFL, there were no extra point kicks. You had to go for two.
So what do you say Bills nation, is it time for a change?
Poll
What should the NFL do about the extra point attempt?
Move the extra point line of scrimmage back
21 votes
Move the extra point line of scrimmage forward
10 votes
Narrow the extra point kicking window
0 votes
Change the angle of the extra point kick
1 votes
Eliminate the extra point kick entirely
11 votes
Leave it alone, its fine the way it is
31 votes

74 votes | Poll has closed

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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I wouldn't mind them moving it back but they would have to move the 2 point back aswell

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by Gpluehri on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

So how do you see it?

Move the extra point kick and the 2 point conversion to where?

by doctork44 on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I say put it at the 7

25 yard kick
And makes 2 pointers a little easier to do

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Jan 26, 2012 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Move It To

The three point line, oh wait thats basketball, nevermind.

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by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

its tough

Moving it back would cause problems when teams need to go for 2.

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by billsoferie on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Exactly!

The NFL has penalized the defensive side of the ball so much recently..I think this would be a good peace offering :-)

by doctork44 on Jan 26, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

I'm surprised by the votes so far

As the play currently sits; its a waste of play. Its a 99% chance that kicker makes the extra point….Why even bother?

by doctork44 on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

I voted back

but kickers are pretty automatic inside 30 yards. So I am thinking maybe move it up to the 1.5 yard line, so it is still a distance to go for 2. I think the ball is on the 2 right now, right?

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by tomcs on Jan 26, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yep!

Pretty automatic huh? Tell that to the Ravens, haha…

by doctork44 on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill Belichick brought this up earlier this year, and I’m fully in favor of changing the extra point rule. It doesn’t seem to be useful or stressful. I think that we should make every team go for two from a few yards out, it will at least add serious variety to the scoring.

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by stetzwebs on Jan 26, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I posted a fan shot on it at the time.

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by stetzwebs on Jan 26, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like the one yard line attempt

It adds a whole lot of dimension to the extra point. Teams have to think long and hard about if their 2-points are worth the attempt or if they should stay with the extra point. A good running team like the Ravens could go for two on a halfback dive and average more points than they would with just extra points, and teams with good play action would be rewarded as well. It also gives defenses more opportunity for showing off their goal line stands.

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by DanRoc on Jan 26, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

You Got A Point

About the extra point thing! :)

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by buffalobacker on Jan 26, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

I voted to move the kick back

but almost all of these are better then what they curently have. What if you added a third choice? Let teams choose between kicking from the 25 yard line for one point, going for one point from the half yard line, or going for two points from the two yard line.

By the way I wonder if the NFL will continue the trend of diminishing the importance of special teams in the name of safety, or if they will back off that a little this year?

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by jbbillfan on Jan 27, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

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