2012 NFL Mock Draft: Don Banks Likes Courtney Upshaw To Buffalo
by Brian Galliford on Jan 27, 2012 3:15 PM EST
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PrintIn the annual "everyone with a pulse releases an NFL mock draft" rat race, things can get highly repetitive for fans of a team with an obvious need. Such is the case for the Buffalo Bills, who enter the 2012 NFL Draft with an obvious - and admitted-to - need to bolster their pass rush.
As such, add SI's Don Banks to the list of names that project - three months in advance - that the Bills will use their No. 10 overall pick on Alabama outside linebacker Courtney Upshaw.
Another theme that typically comes about, particularly with mock drafts that occur so early: players at the same position come "off the board" in almost exactly the order that they're ranked in the court of public opinion. In Banks' mock draft, Upshaw - as he is in virtually every other mock draft - is the second pass rushing prospect off the board, following North Carolina's Quinton Coples.
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Who else can’t wait for a time when mock drafts are actually interesting?
Me.
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 27, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions
a few are ok
they give some info about the players and give you dreams and promises through the off-season, but they do tend to just regurgitate what has already been said. Basically just a list of the “Top 32” players. And until that list changes somehow, there isn’t much more to say. After the senior-bowl maybe something slightly new. After the combine. . . . After some off-season arrests. . . .
by MythicPicnic on Jan 28, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Right now it is kind of pointless, as there are more things to happen like the combine and pro days. Your right in that they just name players as how they’re ranked… But from that, I’ll tell you that the top 10, no matter the order of who takes who still seems to be set in stone as to who will be drafted in that top 10-15 area. And Upshaw probably fits in the top 15 somewhere, and naming him to Buffalo who is in dire need of a OLB/pass rusher is not farfetched.
question
is there a chance tannehill will still be available late 1st round? and, if so, would buffalo make a move to acquire him, a la denver moving to get he-who-must-not-be-named?
NOBODY circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Denver drafted
VOLDEMORT?? No wonder they win. The guy uses sorcery!!!!
by suteck on Jan 27, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
better explanation than miracles, anyway
NOBODY circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
by heff17 on Jan 27, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
seems doubtful
With Luck and Griffin almost certainly going within the top five, there might be a team with an urgent need (Miami?) who will take a shot on Tannehill. Look how crazy it got last year with a lot of marginal QB prospects.
However, unless Tannehill is still available in the second round, I wouldn’t expect Nix to take him — and even then, he still might choose somebody else like Nick Foley. Tannehill had very limited experience as a college QB, only switching from WR midway through the 2010 season. Additionally, he will miss the Senior Bowl and the combine because of foot surgery. So, what he will show the scouts will be limited to scripted plays at a pro day. I think Nix will find him to be way too risky to touch.
by SiriusRed on Jan 27, 2012 4:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Miami = Flynn. With Philbin as their new HC it almost the most predictable trade this year. I’m just hoping that it turns out much in the same way that the Kolb trade worked out for the Cards.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Flynn to Cleveland
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Jan 27, 2012 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
anything to back that up?
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
A certain czar who loves green bay back ups
And has a few picks to trade
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Jan 28, 2012 2:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm more looking towards that certain czar going after RG3.
Mainly because they’ve already said they’d love to have him, and could get him by trading up two spots while giving away less than it would cost to get Flynn.
Add in the fact that the Dolphins just hired Flynn’s OC as their HC, and that Dolphins players are already contaccting Flynn (which ok as long as its just the players) already trying to talk him in coming to Miami once he’s a UFA. To add that the Fins have already stated that at where they are in a draft they’d rather trade for a QB that’s already in the league rather than to trade up to get one in the draft (in the event that Flynn is tagged).
The Flynn to Miami trade is as predictable as the Kolb to Arizona trade last year. Everyone knows it’s gonna happen, but the teams aren’t allowed to talk about ti yet.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
And how’d that work out for Arizona? I’m just saying, you go personal connections to connect the dots between Philburn and Flynn, and you can just as easily between Sherman (Miami’s new OC) and Tannehill (Shermans QB).
I’m not doubting interest is there or isn’t there for either. What I am saying is that Miami looks poised to take one or the other, depending on how it all pans out.
I'm hoping that it's going to pan out equally well for Miami as the Kolb trade panned out for Arizona.
No matter which QB they get. But right now my money is on Flynn.
(PS Go to the Phinsider and the big money is on Flynn.)
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Flynn won't be traded unless GB franchises him
He is a free agent
Same mentality as Mario WIlliams...
Why let him walk when you can tag and trade him.
The Matt Cassel blueprint could come into play for may players this year.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
i dont think so...
he’s the 3rd ranked qb coming out i believe by mayock…if we want him, we better grab him at 10. i personally think that’s a stretch but let’s not forget seattle. they too are in the hunt for a qb.
Pass rusher seems most likely
The odds of the Bills selecting a pass rusher in round one seem pretty good right now. The other glaring needs, pending free agency, are a CB, a WR, and a QB of the future. I thought there might be a chance of the Bills taking either Claiborne or Kirkpatrick, depending on which one was left at #10, but Kirkpatrick blew that up when he was arrested for pot possession recently. I think the odds of them grabbing a WR first are low as they should still be able to find a good #2 in a later round. The top QBs will be gone, so that leaves us with pass rushers. The game now is to figure out which ones the Bills might like enough to pick.
by SiriusRed on Jan 27, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
@SiriusRed
Kirkpatrick might just go in the top 10. A lot of time between now and the draft. He will have interviews and investigations will be run by teams. He doesn’t have a history of getting into trouble. If he check out and performs well in the combine/pro days he can still go high. He ain’t the only one bakin’…
If he check out and performs well in the combine/pro days he can still go high …
Freudian slip?
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Perry
Is actually the 2nd best if not thee best pass rushing prospect in terms of straight pass rushing. Coples and Upshaw have a better all around game, I’d love either 3.
Bruce Irvin
He’s probably the best pure rusher in the draft. But he has a lot of questions, because he played in a weird 3-3-5 scheme in college. He doesn’t have experience dropping into coverage, but he’s a bit undersized to play DE. But as far as situational rushers go, he is the best.
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I don't see the Bills taking him
he is not near 260lbs. he would be a good 3rd rounder, for a situational pass rusher. But he would be a 1st round pick for a team that runs a 4-3 scheme similar to Denver, the same position Von MIller plays.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
I agree
But as far as answering the question, that’s who I believe is the best pure pass rusher in the draft this year, regardless of how they’d fit on our roster.
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well now it seems like the Bills could definitely take him.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
@eze
Nick Perry only did it for one year though. Coples too to a degree. Upshaw is the better player, as you say. I would rather have a better all around player. He can rush the passer and he can play the run which is another problem the Bills’ defense had.
Who else can’t wait for a time when mock drafts are actually interesting?
ahem, but maybe some of us always find them interesting. except the ones with upshaw or coples, im already tired of those
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
except the ones with upshaw or coples, im already tired of those
which was probably the point.
I know this: I am ready for the Senior Bowl. And subsequently the Combine because then, and only then, do I really get my first legit look at some of these guys because I have never tried to keep up with college football. Though I recognize the limitations that brings… but I rarely ever hit on anyone past the 5th round anyway… so for my own purposes I basically only worry about the top 150 or so. That is what makes it fun for me… and so however you need to do that I guess.
I like both those guys, I wouldn’t hate the pick… But I sure wouldn’t love it. I am hoping for some kind of “specimen” type example to pop out, that we could move on the board for… so we get what we need most- lots more talent.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
so for my own purposes I basically only worry about the top 150 or so
you’d be best served to worry about at least 154 instead of 150. that’s kind of common sense isn’t it?
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
or semantics
that’s kind of common sense isn’t it?
could probably apply this same mentality… because clearly, I do say… “or so” to imply the difference in the few for the round.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
also, if you wanna nitpick some
your math skills are amazing bro.
154/32= 4.8 something.
So obviously, if I am going all the way to the end of the fifth round (which i will also add serves less purpose when we don’t pick at the end of the fifth, but at the beginning), I would need more than exactly 150. I was too lazy then, to do the math. But when done correctly, it would have probably been better for me to say, the even 160 that make up the first 5 rounds (5×32=160). But in actuality, I look at the top 150…. Or so.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
ya but 8×8 is 64. if you add 100 then you get 164 then you subtract Jim Kelly and get 152 then add 2 for the amount of end zones on an NFL field.
Plus Thurman Thomas + Andre Reed = <100 times the amount of Bruce Smith sacks divided by the average of gravity’s pull on red wood trees and you also get 154.
see what i’m driving at here?
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
we are doing fantasy math. my bad. well in that case though, we need to find like 3 bruce smiths, and a couple more Thurmans just to offset half of the garbage we have put onto the field since then. Because we are in the RED… like… the NEGATIVE.
Moral is, you are gonna need to add and multiply, because in recent past, our additions were minus signs, and we are gonna need to be getting some exponents involved if we are gonna ever catch up.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
we are gonna need to be getting some exponents involved if we are gonna ever catch up.
exactly
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
ive boldly said a bunch of times that i think bruce irvin is going to move up rapidly (in the minds of the media/fans, not NFL teams) at the combine. i still hold to that.
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
Isn't he a little light for a 3-4 OLB?
I think he could be a great 4-3 OLB, but he would have to add some weight I think..
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
well now at a 4-3
I think Bruce Irvin is a Von Miller type player (not caliber but similar size) he would play 4-3 OLB, but rush almost every down, right?
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
Upshaw
I hope nobody takes him before the Bills have a shot. Last time this happen the Bills were high on Patrick Willis and he kept moving up the boards as we all know the 49ers took Willis right before the Bills turn to pick….
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I find them somewhat interesting
Mock Drafts that is. I don’t follow “prospects” much through the year and Mocks give me an idea if who’s out there and whom to read up on a bit. Granted there are also Top 5 or 10 or 137 lists as well…my personal favorite is how people always scoff at others Mocks. “No way would they take Johnny Whatshistoes at 10! Your Mock is sooo dumb!!”. Ha ha!! FWIW though, I’d be OK if the Bills go OT, Pass Rusher, or even QB at 10. Or CB. Or Michael Floyd…Can you tell I’m not picky and think Buddy will have some good options at 10?
by buffaloparks on Jan 27, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wasn't a fan of Upshaw at first after hearing a few reports on him. After watching him at Senior Bowl practices I am now, big time.
He may not be the most dynamic rusher, but he is competent and better than anyone the Bills have (save a Merriman re-birth) on the roster right now.
The most appealing part to me is that he wouldn’t be a liability in any part of his game and he offers a lot of versatility. He could play JOLB/RDE on non-rush situations and slide over to SOLB/LDE on passing downs while a rush specialist plays opposite him.
If Merriman returns to form or we hit on another end/OLB (FA or draft) then he would be a perfect fit to replace Kelsay at SOLB.
The comparisons to Lamarr Woodley don’t make me nervous; I would love a young Lamarr Woodley playing for us for the next 6-8 years.
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I like Hightower over upshaw, though probably not at 10.
not necessarily worth spending a 1st on Upshaw to me, who is shorter… and we could land a nasty WR (Floyd, somehow move for Blackmon, Sanu, or even Nick Toon (for all I know about college)), and still potentially get Hightower, though I am already beginning to fear he is going to end up a first rounder, after this Saturday’s performance.
I guess I just feel like another very good WR can’t hurt our team, and if I thought Dwight Jones were to be our second pick, then I might be far more ok with Upshaw/Coples.
I expect of course, this whole draft to be again defensive, including corners, and pass rushers, and then maybe a safety- and ONE offensive weapon, in the first two rounds. Maybe I hope it more than expect it, but that is what I have gathered as our true impact needs, which Buddy has consistently approached, in my opinion. Few are in the feeling that ALL of our early round picks (1-3 at least, maybe 4th also) are going to be busts. Most seem to feel that the majority of those selections are fairly solid, save probably Troup (too bad really) and maybe Carrington, who of course was being experimented with for no good reason all year. Otherwise, the remainder of those guys still have yet to even reach their full potential, most would probably agree.
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Love Hightower...Ingram is a freak of an athletic can you say Suggs!
I hate when people say not at #10 you get the player you want and that is that.
Trumaine Johnson CB out of Montana would be perfect around round #3
If we waited till players were suppose to be taken.We would have never gotten Aaron Williams….Sheppard last year. I just want us to get the players we need and that can be players day one at their position. Idc how they stack against the rest of the draft. If Alshon Jeffery can start day one and make plays you choose him at #10 even if he is projected #24. If you think Upshaw or Hightower or Ingram can make plays and start for you for more than 1 down and give you a extra pass rush you add them no matter projections.
I would only want to get a receiver if we don’t grab one in free agency thank god that is all happening before hand.
I think we are going to grab a premiere or solid wide receiver or pass rusher. So whatever we grab in free agency go the opposite for 1st round pick.
by mike$bills on Jan 27, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When you over think you mess up
just grab the players in the range. it is a wash pretty much. Just don’t be the dummy that chooses a guy all based on superficial stats or times. Grab the player you know can start day 1 and can put in the work to be better and it is a plus if he can make those around him better.
That is why our draft last year was better then the 1st year of Nix/Gailey no messing around we went out and got us football players.
Love Hightower…Ingram is a freak of an athletic can you say Suggs!
I hate when people say not at #10 you get the player you want and that is that.
If he IS Suggs, then he is worth a 10. Suggs went at 10. BUT- that is what is open for debate still, to some degree. Suggs is pretty outstanding.
I don’t fully understand your point about Williams or Sheppard- each of their selections were a value as they were pushed backwards by the rise of all the QBs.
I think, I would rather take Hightower/Curry in the second, and Floyd or a sick corner (waiting for combine) and or a LT at 10, as HOPEFULLY we are picking in the 20s (at least) next year- as is my annual generic hope.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how Carrington will be as a RDE in our 4-3? I’m not sure if he’d supplant Kelsay but it’d be nice if he could. Wonder how he’d be inside?
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
he would technically probably be better served as a 43 dt
where he has never played. Our entire defensive line roster is 43 DTs. I think we basically only have Kelsay who is a 43 DE (and a weak one at that)… So really, unless we are drafting 4 or 5 rounds of 43 DEs… I don’t know how we switch back in a single year. we almost HAVE to stay 34 now, unless we want to field a really really really big 43. Which has some significant limitations, without STELLAR linebackers, which we really don’t have. Sure would be nice to have some idea what the system will be.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Our entire defensive line roster is 43 DTs
lol it is too. I think he could play there – obviously have to see him do it but I think if he dropped some weight he’d be athletic enough to do it
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
dropped some weight?
what, the like 15-25 lbs he JUST PUT ON? lol.
seriously, we have like 10 DTs for the 43. and 0 DEs. well, like .8 of one in Kelsay.
I literally just have had to avoid entire articles this week, because I know it is just going to be an argument about how our roster suits a 43, somehow, when in reality, we would only be offsetting 2 full drafts worth of 34 talent, by making them change what they do, 1 year after they changed what they do, and now we are going to have even more holes, and still have the same (or more) needs, and I don’t see how you get ahead switching all the time. USUALLY it is a regime change that brings it about. Not too many regimes decide to change their mind 2 years in. So I am holding out for some general sensibility, and recognizing that we can’t change every 2 years what we are going to do.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what, the like 15-25 lbs he JUST PUT ON? lol.
well ya – because that’s how the Bills roll. Make him put on weight then make him drop it – that’s called consistency right?
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as long as consistency is spelled
L-U-N-A-C-Y
then yes.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Carrington
as a rookie scouted as a 5 technique, and on NFL.com they said that his lateral speed wasn’t enough to be a 4-3 DE. And he just put on 20lbs to play 3-4 DE.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
I just can't get on the Upshaw bandwagon.
I’m just not sold on him as a pass rusher.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Jan 27, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions
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Upshaw might not have the greatest pass rushing potential out of all the OLB’s, but that doesn’t mean he can’t rush the passer effectively. He’s a good all around player who can make an impact in both phases of the defense. He has a history of producing at Alabama against the best competition. Sound like a Buddy Nix fit?
And don’t forget there are other guys they could draft in the second or third who can rush the passer as well. FA could bring help too in that area.
Hey Brian when are you and Mocking Dan and the other fellas going to be doing your mock draft extravaganza(s) again?
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2012 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That was a favorite of mine last off season.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2012 6:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't care who they draft at #10
…… as long as it will be a pass rusher.
OLB or DE, don’t care.
Couples, Upshaw, Hightower, or Santa Claus. Really, I’m unemotional.
As long as our Scouts and Buddy think he is an immediate contributor and a 3 down player, then count me in!!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 27, 2012 6:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’d love to have Santa on the team…. but that means that he’d have to sit out whenever we visit Philly.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
but do you reccall the most famous Reindeer of all
Rudolph the Red Nose pass rusher!
"a play in which nothing happens, that yet keeps audiences glued to their seats". -Vivian Mercier - a description of Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot"
According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
Honestly idc..
If it is a pass rusher, Offensive Tackle or Wide Receiver
I just want someone who can start day 1 and make plays. You gotta simplify the 1st round. It is the opposite think more about your picks later on in the 1st round get the max talent you can get while being mindful of the positions you need.
Whether it is Ingram, Jefferies, Floyd, Hightower, Upshaw, Brockers idc either.
1st three rounds should be just for that grabbing starters and players that can play almost every down or develop very soon to play every down.
I am so glad Free Agency comes first. Hopefully we can knock out one need like WR or Pass Rusher earlier so we can centralize our draft picks and needs more.
Why do I have the feeling that these guys are just copy/pasting each other's mocks?
Seriously, wake me up when an original mock draft come along. Better yet, wake me up when an original mock draft that comes out after the Combine and at least one month into free agency comes out.
Or better still… just wake me up for the actual draft!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 27, 2012 7:00 PM EST reply actions
I agree to a point, but this year is probably the least I’ve paid attention to college football in a while, so its good for me to start familiarizing me with players so I can eventually comment on specific players instead of just my own personal positional wish list.
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by bluecollarbuffalo on Jan 27, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I never seem to like any pass rushers that are possibly available...
I dont really know how to properly evaluate them for the next level…it seems very subjective to me.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 27, 2012 7:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
ya – exactly.
I think you need to look at a few things but drive is one of them. They need to be driven individuals and not lazy because you have to work hard to be a good pass rusher. Crazy athleticism also helps – I think those are 2 good starting points
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by J2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I want Upshaw to be a Buffalo Bill in the worst way. The guy is built like a fire hydrant and is a much better pass rusher than people give him credit for.
Most important trait of Courtney Upshaw:
HE IS A 3 DOWN LINBACKER. He would be a very safe pick. The only other every-down LB the Bills have is Nick Barnett, and he can’t do everything by himself. Upshaw is a winner and was coached by the best in the NCAA. He was the best player on the best D in the collegiate ranks.
How can you not want this guy in a Bills uni?
by J.Haze on Jan 27, 2012 7:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we'll see how is arms measure out
but he doesn’t have the height to play 3-4 OLB, I’d rather have Hightower.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
Anybody who ca
rush the passer or lineman who can block the opposing rusher is good enough for me…Reif….Copeland….Upshaw….etc etc…..If we can land the top talent for any of those positions, then I’d be happy. The only exception is if Luck, RG3, or Blackmon are on the board (and there is no chance they will be).
I remember.....
The year we draft Winfield, from the beginning he was pegged to go to buffalo and he did and that worked out pretty well (of course, it should have worked out way better, thank you Tom Donahue.)
I remember we had other berry shots, haloti ngata comes to mind, but there have been others in the rcent past.
Quite often, it’s best to listen to the obvious, no matter what Tom Modrak sez.
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linebacker or lineman
I think we need more help at linebacker than at the line. Last year Williams and Troup were injured. Their return will make the line look a lot better. I’m not sure Merriman can return from injury and even if he does he only has one more year on his contract (a great year he leaves, a poor year he leaves).
If upshaw can cover a tight end then take him. We need a guy who can take out Gronkowski (by coverage).
Just heard the Stache on NFL radio.........
NFL: “Dave, quick question about the Buffalo Bills. Will you be running a 3-4 or a 4-3 this year in Buffalo?”
ZERO HESITATION!
Stache: “4-3. We have the ideal personnel to run the 4-3.”
I guess we won’t have to wonder about that anymore.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions
I think that we have the better overall personnel to run a 3-4. BUT our best players, the ones we can build around, are better suited for the 4-3.
So that’s what we should run, a 4-3. All we really need for a good, Giants type, attack 4-3 is a great DE on one side, a rush specialist to fill in for Kelsay on the other and one more OLB (to sub with Merriman).
I think that Merriman could fit well in a 4-3 as long as you put him into the same role that Mathias Kiwanuka has with the Giants, or that Kamerion Wimbley has with the Raiders. Neither of the two drop back in coverage much and are mostly relied upon to rush the passer and the defend the run, which are two things that Merriman does well.
The biggest issue is finding a DE that will strike fear into the eyes of the offense, which is much harder said than done. Luckily though there are a few options out there in free agency that could help us out, like Mathis for example, and our top ten spot is a very good one to pick up a rusher.
So if the stash wants to put up a big, attack 4-3, then I agree, we’re very well suited for it.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder
what coverage scheme we are mainly going to run, cover 2, man to man. I know they switch it up. But if anyone remembers Leodis Mckelvin was drafted as a cover 2 cornerback. But i think Aaron Williams is more man to man, but I am not sure.
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I’m thinking more man, but a good mix of the two. Williams is a man cover guy, so is Rogers. McGee has been more effective in man coverage throughout most of his career. Flow is also a very physical corner. My bet is on a lot of man coverage.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Julian Miller
I think this guy could be a diamond in the rough. Check out his stats, he has been moved around alot on the line. He has size and speed and sacks comparable to alot oh high profile players. Maybe we could get him in the 4th or 5th; round.
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