Buffalo Bills, Stevie Johnson No Closer On Contract Extension, Per Report
In the highly unlikely event that you haven't heard by now, Buffalo Bills wide receiver Stevie Johnson is an impending free agent. Team GM Buddy Nix told reporters in early January that he'd like to re-sign Johnson, and all indications are that Johnson would like to continue playing in Buffalo, as well.
Johnson's chatty agent, C.J. LaBoy, told WGR 550's Joe Buscaglia yesterday that 18 days removed from Nix's season-concluding press conference, the two sides have talked, but have not formally negotiated terms on a new deal for Johnson.
Here's the thing, though: that's fine. As difficult as it is sometimes to negotiate a contract extension, they're always a matter of timing, and they never take long to actually complete. With well over a month to get through before free agency starts, the lack of negotiating dialogue between the two sides is barely concerning. Buscaglia touches on that in his article; this is useful information for the back of one's memory, but also hovers on the verge of being a non-story.
I have no idea why - I'm an off-season blogging veteran - but this year's off-season seems to be really dragging. Perhaps it's because I got too used to the excitement and allure of the No. 3 overall pick last year. What do you think?
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Well, theres two ways to look at this...
the two sides have talked, but have not formally negotiated terms on a new deal for Johnson.
Glass half full: Theyve been talking since Nix’ presser.
Glass half empty: There is still no deal.
I dont think its a huge issue yet, but I hope something gets done before FA because I really dont want him “Testing the market.” A team will overpay for him, and there would be a good chance he could/would leave. Especially because his teams back home, Oakland and SF, are in need of WR’s… And Stevie Johnson could be very good for those types of teams.
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Glass half full: Theyve been talking since Nix’ presser.
Nope. They have talked since then, which does not necessarily mean ongoing or multiple instances of dialogue.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 28, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, well thats still half full that "theyve talked."
I would be more worried if your story read: “the two sides have yet to talk and have not formally negotiated terms on a new deal for Johnson.”
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but this year’s off-season seems to be really dragging. Perhaps it’s because I got too used to the excitement and allure of the No. 3 overall pick last year. What do you think?
I second this. This year for whatever, the offseason does seem to be dragging itse;f out.
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I think it’s because each year it starts very early for Bills fans.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It has to get done...
If this adminstration wants to distance itself from the past adminstrations over the last 12 years it needs to resign a player that they have developed into a productive member of the squad. If they let him walk away I will feel that it is business as usual at OBD!! One suggestion show the broken down Merriman the door and use his salary to help pay for Stevie J…
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by Goose22 on Jan 28, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Especially since we would lose him without getting anything in return. Compensatory picks in the NFL are a joke. OBD needs to show the rest of the NFL that it will pay to keep their productive players. On the other hand, Stevie and his agent are asking a pretty steep price, IMO, so I would not be surprised if he was allowed to hit free agency.
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If this adminstration wants to distance itself from the past adminstrations over the last 12 years it needs to resign a player that they have developed into a productive member of the squad. If they let him walk away I will feel that it is business as usual at OBD!!
Steelers, Packers, Patriots…. every good team allows good players to walk. Just for the record.
by MattRichWarren on Jan 28, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
for pointing that out. People seem to forget that all teams lose guys, some are very good, even all pros (like Waters who left KC for NE).
I believe Waters was considered washed up. (I know. The pun.)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I think that pun was all wet! :—)
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by ChuckBuffInFlo on Jan 28, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
The rumors of his demise
were greatly exaggerated since he made the pro bowl this year, wouldn’t you say?
Not saying he wasn’t deserving because I didn’t watch him much. However, Pro Bowl nominations for OL players are always flawed.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 28, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but the difference is that those teams have players to replace them.
We don’t. Hence why we’re not a good team…. yet.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Steelers, Packers, Patriots have all won a Super Bowl recently or multiple Super Bowls since the Bills last made the playoffs.
Their leash is a lot longer.
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by twoeightnine on Jan 28, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Steelers, Packers, Patriots…. every good team allows good players to walk. Just for the record.
I agree but they also are competing for the playoffs year in and year out…
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by Goose22 on Jan 29, 2012 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the offseason does seem to be dragging itself out.
It’s probably because the Bills are out of playoff contention by week 13 and the draft is our outlet to look forward too..
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And because we know they won’t be drafting anyone that immediately changes the fortunes of the team.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
This feels eerily similar to last year to .....
The Bills made what they felt was a good offer in attempt to keep Posluszny in Buffalo, but the free agent linebacker just chose to go in another direction. “Nothing surprises me in this business,” said Nix. “All you can say about ‘Why did it’ would be speculation. I know we tried to keep him. I know it wasn’t money. You’d have to ask him what his reasons were, and I don’t know that either.”
The Front office made what they thought was a competitive offer for Paul Posluszny and Buddy Nix was quoted saying he was “MUST HAVE PLAYER.” I am very Suspicious of Buddy’s words “We made what we want to keep Stevie Johnson”….
Anyone else feeling the "Déjà vu" that I am?
I won’t be completely surprised to see him get an offer from San Francisco.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
You can’t be too pissed when a team like JAX drastically overpays for a guy like Posluzny though. Poz didn’t re-sign because he didn’t want to be a part-time player in a 3-4 and he Jags wrote him a blank check. I’d rather that Nix be smart with the Bills’ money than re-sign players that may or may not be part of the team’s future just because they’re “home grown”.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 28, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I agree whole heartedly that the off season is dragging. This season was one of promise starting off at 5-2.
My thought is that last year we had soooo many issues and holes to fill. The offensive line was a pleasant surprise. Overall, the offense made HUGE strides compared to last year and yes we know there are still issues. So we’re narrowing down our list of gaping holes with our personnel and we see hope in the progress we’ve made.
The defense has glaring problems but Edwards is gone and there is hope in Wannstedt being at the helm.
We competed with and beat the Patriots. As Bills fans, the Pats are our current day measuring stick.
So we’re cautiously optimistic and impatient to see what next seasons holds going against the AFC South and NFC West.
by Cheektowaga_AL on Jan 28, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions
We cant let this guy get away!
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by chaucer on Jan 28, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Why not? Revis did!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Are you saying you want to emulate a Jets player?!
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I’d love to be in his financial shoes. Even one game’s worth of his shoes.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 28, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
He means...
Revis let Stevie get away. Repeatedly. He didn’t throw up his normal shutout, which is not something we would be emulating.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't feel like it is draggng to me
The Sr Bowl is finally here, so I am excited to get a good look at some of the top Srs in action. If last year is any indication, several of these guys will be Bills. Also, the SB is still to come. I am avoiding the coverage, but looking forward to the game. How can a Bills fan not be excited about the opportunity to see Brady get the snot kicked out of him?? Add to that the Peyton Manning situation, which is highly entertaining, and the implosion of the Jets and Fins…..what more do you want? Also, I know Free Agency is coming before the draft. So while the Bills will most likely come out on the losing end of it again, it still makes for some good drama.
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I think so....you can probably find a link on line
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Any truth.....
To the, “Stevie asked for 7.5 mill/year,” in the middle of the season talk?
Has that story been confirmed or debunked by now?
Because if it true, you gotta think…..just more incompetence at the Ralph…..
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For what it’s worth, Chris Brown of BB.com said before the last game that if that report were true, Stevie would already be signed.
by MattRichWarren on Jan 28, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Yah....
That is definitely something, good. I didn’t think it was true, but stranger things have happened at the Ralph.
Why do we get stuck with such pain in the butt signings….. The Bills probably offered a very generous contract and Stevie agent goes nuts…. I’m telling you, I feel sure it is the Austin Miles contract that is the root of the problem. Jerry &$$&);(& Jones gave Austin a megacontact after Austin’s first big season. Austin’s carreer perfectly mimics Stevie’s and so does his game….and so… His agent is demanding the same deal with probably a 10% hike.
I saw trouble and soon as I heard of the deal….
Stay tuned.
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by podunkowego on Jan 28, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
It is not easy.....
Turning around a losing franchise,this I believe whole-heartedly.
I think you need a major lucky break or you have to make one somehow.
Green Bay signing Reggie white is a perfect example.
If the Bills are Gunna be good next year, we have to steal a probowl player or two…..
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by podunkowego on Jan 28, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I've said that all along.
I’ve never trusted an agent that negotiated through the media.
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by twoeightnine on Jan 28, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I do not trust chris brown or the agent one.is a employee of the bills and his.job seems to be make everything a little rosy. The other is an agent using the mefia.
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by matthew62 on Jan 29, 2012 12:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It isn't slow.....
Because of the playoffs that is fer sure….
Great games this year…..although I was sickening seeing all the ex-Bills…..
And we never did see….GB vs. NO….
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And we never did see….GB vs. NO…
They played the first game of the season. You can re-watch it on NFL Rewind.
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 28, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
- I’m an off-season blogging veteran -
I think that everyone that’s been on here for over a year is an off-season blogging veteran. It seems to me that it’s 80% of being a Bills fan.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Senior Bowl today!!
Wahooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions
The local pub?
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know the 2012 cap implications?
And do you have a link?
I’m wondering what signing Johnson means for Buffalo’s ability to spend to the cap. e.g.: does signing Johnson put Buffalo out of any potential to acquire Mario Williams? That’s kind of what I’m thinking right now.
As far as I’ve researched, Buffalo has spend $95M on players for 2012. The cap was about $121M. The new rookie class comes in at about $10-11M. With the 2011 money, and the 2012 rookie class, Buffalo has $15M in cap room. They’d need almost all of it to sign Williams. The cap would have to go up significantly for Buffalo to afford both Johnson and Williams.
I wonder if the delays on Johnson are intentional, because Nix knows that signing Johnson puts Buffalo on the sidelines for impact free agents.
Again, this argument is based off old data, so if you’ve got a link to 2012 data, please post it. Thanks.
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I dont have the link
but we can still cut overpaid players like McGee, Edwards maybe?, etc. that would give us enough cap space to get both Johnson and Williams.
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Yeah, but that would be it
Buffalo wouldn’t be able to do anything else in free agency.
Not that it matters much.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
right
but if we signed Mario Williams, we would need 1 less pass rusher. So we could address CB and WR earlier in the draft get another 4-3 DE later, and an OT. and now we need a SLB.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
Plus we have Andra Davis and Reggie Torbor off the books now (both UFAs), so we don’t take a cap hit for losing them.
Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson are both set to make $3.6 mil and $3.0mil respectively next year, so that’s not terrible for good backup depth (though we may only really need one of these veterans after FA/Draft).
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 28, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have a link to the 2012 cap, and Buffalo's roster salaries?
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Was just going off of rotoworld.com player pages for each, under “view contract details”.
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, I'll take a look
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I don't know but.....
What makes being a Bills’ fan so tough (among other things) is that we a lot of cap space on the cupboard again last year. I am not sure how much because I don’t know how much of fitzy’s and Kyle’s contact went against last
Year’s cap.
My point being, if Stevie was reasonable and signed last year they could of put a lot of it against last year’s cap……
And things would look a lot better now.
Espn ran a afc east story recently (I don’t have the link) but they said we are in pretty good shape. I think they said Miami is too, but a little worse than us. It definitely said the Jets are screwd and…. Oh, it just makes me sick…but they said the Pats are in the best shape cap-wise and that is just awful truth about our ugly ineptitude.
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Don't get too down about the Pats
They really don’t have that many elite level players. Plus, so many of their second round picks have washed out entirely that they’ve saved some cap room due to it.
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And yet they're in the Super Bowl.
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by twoeightnine on Jan 28, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what happens when you have Tom Brady/ a healthy Peyton Manning
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 28, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Two words: Tom Brady
Here’s the short list of players that could start for any team:
Brady
Logan Mankins
Wes Welker
Rob Gronkowski
Vince Wilfork
Consider that against their opponent:
Eli Manning
Chris Snee
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Osi Umenyiora
Justin Tuck
Antrel Rolle
Jason Pierre-Paul
Matthias Kiwanuka
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Anyone else hoping that they finally let Umenyiora loose?
Or at least available for trade. Because he could be a big target for the Bills if available.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 28, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Osi and Mario Williams would COMPLETLY change their defensive problems. (Note: I have no idea if they play the same position on the line.)
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 29, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
They do. Justin Tuck mans the strong side for the Giants, with JPP being the rotation guy that mans both edges as the need is.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I also think that there`s a great chance of us landing OSi than there is of us landing Williams.
And Osi is still under contract.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Jan 29, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon....
I know you’re are just trying to help but they have Brady which is huge. Then the O-line, established and maybe the best. This is also huge (brady’s big reason for dominating)
Wlelker, the TEs, and the Wilfork and the other D-line guys.
How many great players do we have that have had multiple above average seasons?
But I do love the misses the pats have been having…..
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Not sure this is entirely accurate but
It seems (to me) that if the season ends and an impending free agent is still unsigned, odds are pretty good that player will at least test the market.
I can’t imagine Stevie signing a contract offer now from the Bills, when in about a month he can field offers from all teams.
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They'd have to blow him away with an offer.
At the very least even if he only wants to sign in Buffalo he can leverage a SF offer into more money from the Bills.
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by twoeightnine on Jan 28, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.....
The old Poz scenario from last year.
Niners will probably give him a 5 year, 60 million deal with 25 guaranteed.
Buddy won’t even go close to that.
And we lose our best WR.
:-(
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
SF needs WR help and Stevie would be just the solution. Stinks, but I also think he wants to test the market now.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 29, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
well in that way of thinking
the Texans are letting three of their best players go. Mario Williams, their starting Center, and Arian Foster are all FAs and still unsigned, although Foster is a RFA. But Dwayne Bowe, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Reggie Wayne, Meachem, DeSean Jackson are still unsigned UFA WRs (DeSean might be RFA not sure). So the talk that the Bills FO doesn’t know what they are doing is nonsense. NONE of the big name FA WRs this year have been resigned yet. Why should the Bills be the first team to do so, when they could wait and possibly sign a better WR than Johnson. Personally I want them to re sign Stevie, but I think they are handling this correctly.
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Second half of your comment I'm assuming is a general statement, and not related to my comment
considering I never said the Bills weren’t handling this correctly.
But your first half is on topic, and yes, I have a feeling that many of those players will not sign a contract before free agency starts….since they have gotten this far, I’m assuming they are going to wait until free agency starts now.
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by StroudFanClub on Jan 28, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
yea
wasn’t directed toward you. just that many people were complaining that he isn’t signed yet. to the second part. I hope they don’t resign and maybe we can get a better wide receiver than johnson. although johnson may be the best out of the group eventually
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by tomcs on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
To me, Vincent Jackson, Bowe & Marques Colston would be upgrades
over Stevie. But Jackson and Bowe would also come at a higher pricetag I’d imagine. And not sure Colston is that much better than Stevie…such that you would let him leave.
Another factor is we don’t know how Fitzpatrick “gells” with any other WR…we do know, though, that Fitzpatrick and Stevie seem to have a strong relationship, both on & off the field. So to give that up for someone you think has more talent…it’s taking a risk that the QB and new WR may not click like the guy you just let walk. much to thing about.
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by StroudFanClub on Jan 28, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly Stroud
Stevie could suck on another team, and Colston could suck with the Bills.
Chemistry.
Fitz and Steve have a decent Vulcan mind-meld going on. Like Kelly had with Reed.
Ralph and Buddy need to just pay up and get this over with.
And I hope they will.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
You know I say this with respect
But are you really comparing Fitzpatrick to Johnson with Kelly to Reed?
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Heck no! Hahaha
Not in Hall of Fame terms.
Only in the locker room terms. These two are on the same page.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 28, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
The sooner they resign stevie the better some of these guys might get big contracts forcing the average price up forcing it be harder to resign him.
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by matthew62 on Jan 29, 2012 12:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As far as the off-season dragging goes...
I’m more excited for this draft than I have been for a long time because I can see Buffalo’s roster taking shape and the team needs are very evident. If Buffalo is diligent in re-signing their own, the off-season plan of attack is very simple: upgrade the pass rush, upgrade wide receiver talent. In this year’s draft (and likely free agent pool), they’ll be in position to do both. The draft process has a WAYS to go, but if players land where I think they will, Buffalo could easily get a slam dunk pass rusher (in Courtney Upshaw or Melvin Ingram), and a decent prospect at wide receiver (I’m hopeful Alshon Jeffrey slips due to a senior slump, but guys like Brian Quick or T.Y. Hilton would be excellent 3rd round candidates). Can’t wait to start evaluating these guys… I watched a lot of footage of Brian Quick and he has potential to develop into a Brandon Marshall type of player but with much better ball skills. Not to mention we may upgrade WR automatically if Marcus Easely can see the field.
I’d be interested in someone’s opinion on Mario Williams. I don’t catch a ton of Texans games so I was wondering if they actually allow him to play LB, or is he more in the sense their version of Chris Kelsay, essentially playing exclusively a DE role? Also, does he have the mentality to possibly play the 5 technique on the rare occasions Buffalo uses 5-tech DE’s? I’d honestly rather have a guy like Cliff Avril because he’s a better pure pass rusher, and has the athleticism to learn LB, but Williams seems like he could be entering his prime, kind of like when Jared Allen left the Chiefs for Minnesota.
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the Bills are running a 4-3 now
Mario Williams would be perfect. Cliff Avril would be nice too.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
Is that official?
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by ForeignArrow on Jan 28, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sergeant Major Thor
said he heard it on NFL radio and posted it on a few threads.
With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.
Well....
Avril would be free right? And he also could be hitting his prime…..
Williams would call for compensation right?
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Losing Johnson would be yet another terrible setback for one of the worst-run franchises in North American sports. This roster is already so bereft of talent to begin with- losing Johnson would just make another hole to fill on a ship that sprung countless leaks in crashing to a pathetic 1-8, last place finish. I see no other way around this- Johnson must be retained and the financial commitment to salaries in 2012 should be raised significantly overall. The excuses are over with in 2012- the hand-holding is over and done with for Chix and ownership.
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Yeah but......
If you were GM would you give Johnson 9.5 mill /year?
And how much would you give Bell?
It ain’t easy…..
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That’s why there are only 32 of these jobs. Only the brightest need apply. i have my doubts that Buffalo has one of the 32 best options calling the shots. We’ll find out for sure next season.
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by Port Royal on Jan 28, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's all about the $$$
The Bills would be foolish to lock Johnson in at 9 or 10 million a year. He simply isn’t that good. I believe Chris Brown in that if he was only looking for 7.5 a year the deal would be done. It’s not like there aren’t other stud wr’s in the market. If you are going to pay that kind of money for a wr you might as well spend a little more and get Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe.
I love Stevie and I hope he stays, but I think that we overvalue him because of the excitement he brings to the team and the love he has shown the city and fans.
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
Look at the track record of fa wr leaving teams and buffalo should be cautious about breaking the bank to sign two big wide outs. I think buffalo wants to sign him for 5 million. Just my personal opinion. If stevie is not resigned I will stop following the bills till the fo is changed. Saying your goal is to keep young talent then letting it all walk is bs.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Jan 29, 2012 12:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you are going to pay that kind of money for a wr you might as well spend a little more and get Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe.
Why sign them when you have SJ on the squad? The Grass always looks greener on the other side!
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Vince Lombardi
The singer or the reporter?
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 29, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
The singer only makes Rhianna cringe...
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
Off-season is a time of promise
So let’s get this superbowl thing out of the way so we can start dreaming about these great new young players that will push the Bills over the edge next year!
(I recommend watching “Team Turnarounds” on NFL network)
That’d be great if TWC had NFLN.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 29, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I suspect this is the calm before the doldrums
I will not be in the least surprised to see Nix let Johnson depart. I will be disgusted, though not at all surprised, to see Johnson sign on with an AFC East team and spend the next several years torching the Bills twice per season.
I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.
If he lets that happen, Ralph needs to let Nix depart.
"Go check on the ribs!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 29, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions

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