2012 NFL Draft: Brandon Weeden's Stock Is Rising

Yes, yes please, thank-you.

Not with a high second rounder anyway ! Lets say he takes 2 or 3 years to get it and get good. He’s then 32 and only has 2 or 3 more years left.

Sure if we knew he’d be a top 12 NFL starter for 5 or 6 years then of course you do – but considering he comes with all of the doubts you get on any other QB prospect I’d say high round 2 is too high for a 29 YO rookie QB.

If buffalo picks him be better start.day one. A.28 year old is not developmental.

Not sure if I could hate any idea, more, or support it less. Starting Thigpen. That would be the culmination actually. This, would be like some sort of puke garnish. hahaha.

that’s extreme. Weeden has talent. But agree w matthew62 (got that extra t this time, sorry if I haven’t in the past.) this guy, should come in and start for someone right away, and for that reason, I think his value decreases some. I equate him similarly to McElroy. His physical limitations didn’t completely offset how bright, hard working, or knowledgeable he was, he just didn’t have a big time arm. He was still drafted, still has value, and can still be a successful QB in the league though he is probably a system QB.

Weeden, certainly has equal or maybe even more upside (i say more), but his ceiling is limited by his relative amount of time to produce. SO if he doesn’t translate immediately, his odds of success decrease exponentially, because his opportunities are going to be slightly limited. That is why I expect he could maybe be around still in the 3rd round, just for fear of missing out on a better prospect by selecting him too early. As you move through the draft though, I expect he will be that guy that you start thinking about selecting, just about the time someone else takes him right before you. I would burn a 4th, no more. That is my assessment. Perhaps I am way off. 26-3 as a starter, right? that is pretty good. But his age can’t just be ignored. It is certainly a factor.

Only take him in the second if you’re damn sure he can come in and compete with Fitzpatrick for the starting spot.

Not with so many other needs

But Id take him if he still around in the 4th for sure. I think this guys got a lot of talent, but because of his age, will probably never get a “fair shot” at a real starting gig in this league. Could make for a nice backup for the next 8 years, but I doubt he’ll ever be a true #1 guy, because of the age. him or Russell Wilson from Wisconsin are my 2 4th round QBs I want OBD to target.

Chix has hooked their bandwagon on Fitzy after the Edwards debacle… they’ll draft a QB but I wouldn’t expect anyone before the 4th round. Weeden will be gone.

if they did.. I would probably want every single person involved with that decision to be fired, it makes zero sense to waste a pick on a 30 year old, especially a pick that high. Much rather they take a guy who needs more development but by age 25 could be the franchise QB, Tannehill, Osweiler, Foles, those type of players.

and can we stop considering Russell Wilson a real NFL QB prospect? This is another guy if they draft I will lose hope in this FO. Nothing against these people, but IMO opinion they will never be great nfl QBs. Russell Wilson isn’t even 5’11". Can’t play NFL QB. Not that you mentioned him, but many people on this site believe he can be and at under 5’11" it is pretty much a fact he cannot be a starting NFL QB.

Not young enough. I want someone who can be groomed and lead the team for 12-15 years. Unless he’s around in the third or fourth, no.

no way. Nothing earlier than a 5th round pick. He is just WAAAAAAY to old to us a draft pick on. I would rather them take Tannehill or Foles is the second.

I would rather a WR in the first and Cam Johnson in the second. Im almost sold on that now that they shifted to the 4-3. Maybe if they got him in the fourth or fifth round, but even then its almost a wasted pick.

2nd round is way too high. Remember John Beck? He was an older QB coming out of college and went in the 2nd round and ended up being nothing. Weeden would be a waste of a 2nd rounder IMO, no point in draft a low-potential QB in the 2nd round. I’d rather take the low odds on a high potential QB ind the 2nd(Foles) or later in the draft (Coleman, Harnish, Osweiler etc.)

I like Weeden. If we needed a starting QB right now, i would say yes. But we have Fitz, so no use the 2nd rounder elsewhere. Even though i think Weeden would be better in our system then Fitz.

I’d much rather hedge my bets and hope that Ryan Tannehill falls to the 2nd round than draft a 29 year old.

Otherwise I would take a flyer on someone like Russell Wilson who needs to be in the shotgun a majority of the time….which fits in line with what Gailey likes to do….

Plus Wilson throws good on the run…he has played winning football and has the ability to lead and carry a team….height be damned.

Darkhorse QB in the late late rounds or as a UDFA……G.J. Kinne from Tulsa. Perfect spread QB….just the type of young project that Gailey could succeed with.

One can hope.

but when you think of a franchise guy, you think of a dude that can be your Quarterback for a decade. And another question I’ve seen raised is how much of his personality/superior play wowing head coaches, is simply him being more mature, both physically, and emotionally, than other prospects? It seems like a question you have to ask

Pay first round money for a QB that is a year younger than our current competent QB who was recently given a contract this year? Weeden is just too old.

Chris Weinke?

We don’t to waste a pick on a 29 year old rookie.

I would seriously question the sanity of Nix or any GM that would spend a 2nd on him.

This guy has UDFA all over him because of his age.

He is like, the Incredible Hulk version of Trent Edwards. Trent is the Bill Bixby guy, and Brady would be Lou Fourigno. (i probably butchered his name).

Seriously though, another way to see this, is this is a guy, who is the same age and similar measureables to numerous backup QBs who have been in the league, and have been at least AROUND the level of competition that it promotes. They seem like a better option.

If the skins or another team are willing to use a high second round pick on him, all it means is one more young and talented prospect will be there when we pick at 41.

but hes not coming to buffalo. too bad. i think hes a late first rounder, might find himself ins a ponder situation and be taken mid first as well.

I’d rather not use up draft pick on a QB of the “future” when the guy is only a year younger than what we have now. Not every QB plays until they’re 39, 40 years old. He very well could only have 5 or six years in him, 2 of which could be spent simply getting up to NFL speed.

His age is way too much of a factor here.

I think we should give Fitz a chance here. And now with David Lee in place I trust that all three QBs will improve.

For me it remains the same strategy as every year BPA (First round), BVP (Rounds 2-7). We need pass rushers and a 4-3 OLB, so i see us getting at least one of each in rounds 2-7.

Round 1 for me is Coples/Reiff/Martin/Ingram/Upshaw (in that order)

The problem is that Fitz is going to be there for at least 2 more years, they want to give the guy a chance and that would mean that Weeden would be well into his 30s before he would get the chance. Too old. If we can pick him up in round 3-4 maybe but otherwise for me its a no

No thanks

With the 10th pick overall?

I don’t even

I still say no, but not because of his age now. It’s because of certain things he has been quoted on, most notably the way he seems hung up on giving up home runs – gotta let those things go. It’s because he’s rather green as a prospect, and only in the Senior Bowl prep and game did he perform out of a pro-style offense.

Numerous people state that he needs to go somewhere he can start right away. I feel the opposite is true. He needs more time to mature as a player and poses a huge risk to any team depending on his success in the near future.

put me in as a no on this one. As a backup QB? sure maybe. As anything more? No. He is still a college QB. He will take at least a year or two to develop (if at all), now you are looking at a 30-31 y.o. QB who is ready to play. I know age isn’t necessarily an issue for everyone, fred seems to get better every year, but he’s special. I just have to go with no thanks

It’s hard to see them taking a chance on Weeden but I think he could be good value for a team like the Browns who have 2 first round picks and a high 2nd. If Weeden fell to the 3rd would I be disappointed if Buffalo took him? No, not at all, plenty of QB’s play into their mid to late 30’s and rookie contracts are only 4 years anyway so why not take a guy that possibly has the maturity to go right away. Better than grooming a guy for 3-4 years only to see him disappear by the time he is actually good.