Re-Assessing The Buffalo Bills' Defensive Front Seven
The Buffalo Bills are officially switching back to a base 4-3 defense, so it's time to briefly re-assess the team's personnel in the front seven. To generalize before we get into specifics: it's looking like five of the front seven positions are already locked down.
Mike position settled: The one position that Chan Gailey addressed specifically on Monday was middle linebacker, where Gailey confirmed that Kelvin Sheppard would be next year's starter. This is not surprising; the team has long been high on the second-year player.
Playing Sheppard inside frees up veteran Nick Barnett to keep playing on the weak side of the alignment, where he put together a Pro Bowl-worthy stat line for the Bills in 2011. Barnett will also remain the team's every-down linebacker, staying on the field in passing situations, and will also likely be the team's go-to blitzer from the linebacker position.
Strong-side 'backer needed: The one position at linebacker in need of an upgrade is the strong-side linebacker position. This player aligns on the strong side of the formation (obviously), and therefore needs a bit more girth to take on extra blockers, but also cannot be a huge liability in coverage. This player will not be an every-down player - he'll be the first linebacker off the field in nickel packages - so it shouldn't require gobs of money or a premium draft pick to fill it.
The Bills have a lot of options at this position from their current personnel, which is more indicative of their lack of a good option than anything else. Chris White might be the closest athletic fit to fitting the position currently, though he's more of a middle linebacker, and I think Arthur Moats may get a look there, specifically for his pass-rushing abilities. Neither is a great fit, however, so the Bills should look to upgrade.
Defensive End: Chris Kelsay is the third of the five locks for a starting job, joining Sheppard and Barnett. He'll play defensive end, and in all likelihood will be an every-down defender from that position. As you all are well aware by now, the team desperately needs a premium pass-rusher, and therefore, there's one end position that's up for grabs.
Shawne Merriman is no longer suited to be an every-down player in this league, so attempts to pencil him into the starting lineup at right end are ill-conceived, in my opinion. His role should be limited - perhaps severely so - to keep him healthy and maximize his effectiveness, if he's even around at all. Right now, the best-looking option at end aside from Kelsay, to me, is Kyle Moore. Yeah... the Bills need help here very, very badly.
Defensive Tackle: Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus will start, and they'll serve as the foundation for everything that the Bills do defensively. This much is obvious.
The team has a ton of depth options, including wide-bodies that will play reserve run-down roles (Torell Troup and Kellen Heard), and smaller, quicker guys that can slide inside and rush on passing downs occasionally (Spencer Johnson, Dwan Edwards and Alex Carrington). But Williams and Dareus should be as close to every-down players as is feasible at a position where staying fresh is highly important.
When it's all said and done, I've got a loose starting lineup that looks like this:
LE: Chris Kelsay
DT: Marcell Dareus
DT: Kyle Williams
RE: (vacant)
SLB: (vacant)
MLB: Kelvin Sheppard
WLB: Nick Barnett
Fundamentally, the team's needs have not changed, however. They're still much stronger up the middle than they are on the edges. The pass-rushing need transitions from needing a stand-up rusher to needing a rusher that can play with a hand in the dirt. They still need players that can set the edge against the run, and they still need more overall speed in their front seven, though that need has now increased at linebacker.
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I wonder where Morrison fits in
primary backup at MLB, and SLB?
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Should we resign him?
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I think so
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
The better question is whether Morrison is interested in re-signing; he’s unrestricted. I don’t think the chances are good at all that he’ll be back, considering that he’s still capable of playing, and considering how little he played last year.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
And to answer your original question: Morrison is pretty exclusively a middle linebacker.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't get a lot of play in FA last season
and not playing a lot this season, can’t have helped his cause. I can’t help but think if the Bills want him back, he’ll seriously consider resigning with Buffalo.
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Some examples
It would be cool to get some examples of above average SLB in a 4-3 in the league right now
Does anyone else think that Carrington could flourish as a LDE?
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by J2 on Jan 31, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
that’s correct, on many levels.
"a play in which nothing happens, that yet keeps audiences glued to their seats". -Vivian Mercier - a description of Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot"
According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
but it’s also irrelevant – he might not be cut from the roster but if Carrington outperforms him there then I would expect a switch to be made.
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It was sarcasm(as in we’re going no where with Kelsay), and, I hope you’re right about Carrington.
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According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
You know I do
I agree with what Brian wrote, with Carrington as the LDE option. He played OLB in training camp and didn’t look out of place.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
he’s one that i’m intrigued by. He’ll most likely drop weight and he’s got good athleticism plus he can obviously anchor given that he was a 34 DE.
I think that’ll be a good spot for him
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I think especially on run downs.
Then work him in on the pass if he improves and can beat out Kelsay.
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I hope so, but I think it all comes down to his ability to put some consistent pressure on the QB.
Obviously the bar hasn’t been set very high, but as soon as he clears that then I think the nominal starting LE job is his. Carrington has done a decent job in run support so I think that part of his game is OK.
I’ve always believed that Kelsay wouldn’t finish his current contract here and that’s why it never bothered me too much. With the backloaded salary he will become a possible cap casualty over the next 2 years.
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i think he can be an SLB… he is stronger than both sheppard and barnett… and he has adequate speed…. but he is not a top notch talent either…
by statcruncher on Jan 31, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
why does slb need to have bit more girth?
i know it is logical but i remember both dick jauron and perry fewell always put keith ellison at slb and it used to annoy me… always thought ellison was too small to play slb…
was it because he was faster and could hopefully cover TEs better since its the TE side?
it almost looks like you cant get a cheap SLB… how can you get a cheap SLB when he needs to have girth but at the same time be athletic to keep up with the TEs nowadays… and not only that, also have coverage skills
simply put – they need to be able to play the run. Whether it be a pulling guard, FB or whatever. Plus they have to be able to jam a TE and if you can get a SLB that can control the better TE’s in the game then they can make plays in the run game and disrupt the passing game
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Keep in mind:
They’re going back to a 4-3, NOT the Tampa-2 they played under Jauron/Fewell. It’s a four-man front, but it aligns differently and calls for different attributes in the athletes than the Tampa-2 or the 40 front they used under Jerry Gray.
Wannstedt often has his three backers (when they’re all on the field together i.e. NOT nickel) lined up off the line, behind and protected by the front four.
Subtle, but maybe important difference between Wannstedt’s past use of the 40 front and the last two versions we’ve seen the Bills run.
Keith Ellison shouldn’t have been a starting NFL linebacker regardless of scheme. Serviceable sub-package/special teams guy, earned his paycheck, but starting? Uh, no.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 31, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind that Jauron/Fewell ran the Tampa 2.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
yep, forgot that completely. Which is why I capitalized and bolded it.
by Brian in Shortsville on Jan 31, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
yep and that was not a reply to you,
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Cuts and/or Trades with DTs?
“The team has a ton of depth options.”
I wonder if what Brian really hit upon was excess at a position where depth is no longer a priority. In a 3-4, Edwards started, and Johnson, Troup, Carrington, and even Heard could rotate in to give us options on the D-line. And while Carrington could (maybe) move to DE, I wonder if some of these players won’t be back with the Bills. Do we need 6 DTs? Because with Dareus, Meatball, Edwards, Johnson, Troup, and Heard that’s what we have. And two of the reserves (Johnson and Edwards) make over $3mil next year. That seems a ton of money locked into players who probably won’t play much (“Williams and Dareus should be as close to every-down players as is feasible…”)
Could we get anything on the trade market for Edwards or Johnson?
Could we get anything on the trade market for Edwards or Johnson?
Probably not
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I don’t think there is anybody there who is expendable that has any trade value. I certainly wouldn’t trade away Dareus or Williams.
by SiriusRed on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dont know? I sure have not thought of that.
In my mind one of the two will not make the team and I am leaning towards it being S. Johnson. I dont think he will have any trade value, on the other hand we might could keep Spencer one more year as DT depth, and if some team wanted D.Edwards for a late pick that might not be a bad thing. His salary is moveable. It could happen, but I doubt it.
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I wouldn't want to lose Spence. His game closely mimics Kyle's and that makes him a key rotation guy.
The only player that could become expendable with any marginal would probably be Dwan Edwards. Unfortunately his medical history probably eliminates many landing spots. Remember that we only got him after 2 teams turned him down due to his medical history.
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Carrington
Is the key to me, Kelsay is getting up in age and Carrington needs the playing time he certainly has the size at 6’5’ 305 lb. Plus, he is going into his 3rd year and has plenty of playing time under his belt. If he takes the next step up he could be a force teamed with Dareus and Williams.
Forget about Merriman he is a shell of his dominate days and his body will continue to breakdown. The big question is can either Batten or Moats be able to handle the other spot?
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I would not go that far
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“Forget about Merriman he is a shell of his dominate days and his body will continue to breakdown.”
Mostly you are right, but he is here for another year if we want him, and he could fill a reserve pass rush roll nicely. I would not say to forget about him.
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Relying on Merriman is like relying on Bob Sanders. At some point you just have to realize that they’re going to break down as soon as they step on the field.
Yea, I definatley would not rely on him
but he can still have a part in the defense. The real question in my mind is will he be worth the money he will get paid for the limited reps, and games. We might be money ahead to let him go and use that money elsewhere.
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They need to start grooming a replacement for Kelsay. He’s not getting any younger and Merriman has the body of a 70 year-old marathon runner.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 31, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Good assessment
Pairing Dareus and Williams in the middle gives us a force for other teams to contend with. Kelsay is much better as a down lineman than an OLB. It would be interesting to see if Carrington could be groomed to take over at the left DE position. Barnett was a force last season, able to go sideline-to-sideline. Sheppard showed plenty of good flashes, so I hope he will continue to develop.
They definitely need to find a pass-rushing DE or two, and they need help at the other OLB position. Moats is a good pass rusher, but he’s a liability against the run. Nobody else really stands out at that position so far.
by SiriusRed on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Arthur Moats deserves a look at right DE
He’s worth a look more than Kyle Moore, right? Moats played defensive end in college, sucks at coverage, and excels rushing the passer. That’s what we need, pass rush, and Moats has shown that ability. It sure feels better than playing him at outside linebacker in a 4-3 and watching him cover for half the game.
Until we can wheel some real artillery in here, he makes some degree of sense as a stopgap option.
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First thing’s first: I would not argue that Moats “excels rushing the passer.” It may be what he does best, but he’s not been very good at it, quite frankly.
Second: Moats weighs 249 pounds, and does not have the frame to get bigger. As long as Buddy Nix is involved with this team, the defense will be built with size, and Moats just doesn’t have the size they’re looking for in their defensive linemen.
Third: let’s say Moats becomes the starting SAM linebacker. He’d play maybe half of the snaps, and he’d be off the field in obvious passing situations. Figuring he’d be 50-50 on his snaps, he may cover a quarter of the game, if that. He’d be a liability – and a liability against the run, too – but that’s his best position athletically. It’s similar to how the Giants used a 3-4 rush linebacker (Clint Sintim) on the outside in their scheme.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 31, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
It may be what he does best
he’d be off the field in obvious passing situations.
this kinda implies that we are not going to put him into the best position for him to succeed. I agree he doesn’t have the frame for RDE, but I would prefer him to be on the weak side, leaving Barnett to play the TE, and let him do some pass rushing, and see if his strength is versatility. Otherwise, we should just cut him, and the Lions would probably pick him up and make him a pro-bowler.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Then it may be time for Mr. Moats to look for work elsewhere.
I can agree with your logic, but I’ll offer this. Other than the immediate short term, Moats (even if it’s his best fit) isn’t really our fit for that position, either. As you mentioned, he’s a sore spot that we’d have to give snaps to gingerly. That description doesn’t strike me as someone who should be starting at all. Although the Bills need help at strongside linebacker this year, and it happens to be the best position for Moats, he’s not really fit to start anywhere. A lack of talent on our part shouldn’t give him leniance, at least not past the immediate term. Buffalo would do well to give him some stiff competition there in the very least, if that’s the plan for 2012.
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by Dyl on Feb 1, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Potential Fits
Hey Brian, Der Jaeger and the rest of the scouting staff, I know that in DJ’s post he mentioned a couple guys that could fit in these positions as it pertains to the 4-3 defense. But I would love a post about the draft and free agents who would be the best fits for our needs now? I obviously know Coples would be ideal as an end for us, but I doubt he falls to us. So how does Upshaw fit into that 4-3 end role? I read a lot about how he is a better fit as a 3-4 OLB. What about guys like Perry and Ingram? Who’s a good fit for SLB? Maybe Zach brown or Kevin Reddick from UNC? or a guy like Keenan Robinson from Texas? Who best fits the athletic profile of a SAM Linebacker in Wannstedts scheme? Just curious, as I love to do my fair share of couch scouting.
by BMWdrummerman777 on Jan 31, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions
I know he is deep on the depth chart
but what is your take on Eddins? He seems to have the right size to play SLB. Can he cover at all or set the edge, or is he simular to Moats and mainly brings a pass rush?
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I was thinking of Eddins also
The bills seemed pretty high on him last year.
merriman is still in the mix
i would not be surprised if he has a productive season.
he is what, 27 yrs old???
just went to his website, looks a lot better than a 70 yr old
marathon runner lol….
seems to still believe in himself, to put it mildly…
i think the negativity towards fitz is leaking into merriman.
people go negative and lose all perspective.
the bills benefited from his presence when he played, and
they will benefit from his presence when he plays again.
he is not cut. he is still under contract.
surgery was deemed a success.
he is the X factor still for pass rush….
In the last 3 years Merriman has played 8 games and has 15 tackles and 1 sack.
Not expecting Merriman to be healthy isn’t being negative, it’s looking at the past and being realistic.
It was worth a shot to pick him up, but at some point you have to cut bait.
he needed surgery and got it
players have been known to miss long stretches over a few seasons, look
at the ny giants studs up front, some of those guys come back after entire
or almost entire seasons and deliver the following yr.
football is about recovering from rough physical blows.
i do recall a former bills #1 from miami, who has been accused of
being washed up from injuries and age how many times???
and he made the pro bowl this season…
willis M something……..
i do recall a former bills #1 from miami, who has been accused of
being washed up from injuries and age how many times???
I know Bills fans disliked Willis but I don’t remember fans saying he was washed up, he had a good run in Buffalo and Baltimore before heading west…
I hope you are right about Merriman but I just don’t see it, his abuse of P.E.D.’s have taken its toll on him. He may look the part but his body cannot take the rigors of a full NFL season.
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yeah but why was Willis let go
Baltimore didn’t think he was an everydown back, he became their goaline back.
We don’t have a “Ray Rice” to allow Merriman to be a situational player.
Its 1 of two things with Merriman. He has o be the every down guy or he has to be let go.
What I don’t get, is now; because of the last two drafts, we are actually better fit to play a 3-4 if we were to take an OLB this year. Now we are going to look at drafting a 4-3 DE? I don’t get it. I hate it. 3-4 is the better defense. it’s better for scheming, it’s better for pass rushing and overall its just a better defense. With all of our “depth” you would think we were in good shape, but our “depth” is just a pile of scrap we will either have to release or play them out of position.
We no longer have a need for Moats, Batten, Heard and maybe even Carrington or Dwan Edwards. Thats frustrating! very very frustrating! Why wouldn’t we look at a 3-4 DC? All that pt this year for Batten is going to be worth nothing urghhhhhhhhh.
Our Defense now needs a SLB, DE, CB and SS. We cannot afford to draft another full year of defense. And we all know were not going to ick up anyone big in FA were going to sign 2 more Andra DAvis’s and Dwan Edwards’s. BRUTAL!!!!!!! Tough time to be a Bills fan right now.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 2, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions
Free Agents
is Mathis a potential free agent fit for this scheme at RDE?
What does this change mean for our secondary? Are they going to be playing a zone primarily or man to man
I Doubt It...
I can’t see Indy letting Mathis walk. I guess it’s possible with them being in rebuilding mode but I just don’t see it happening.
Honestly, Mario Williams is probably the more likely hope. Houston simply can’t afford him without some major restructuring and their defense proved this past season that they don’t need him. I don’t see Houston jumping through the contract hoops needed to bring him back. That situation and franchise and trade written all over it. Of course this topic has been discussed ad nauseum for weeks. Still…
MWilliams – MDareus – KWilliams – CKelsay
Looks like a pretty damn sick front 4 to me….
There was a report the other day
The texans cannot use the franchise tag on him, so they are letting him walk and test FA. i saw it on Jay Glazers twitter feed.
dont see major need at DE
Carrinigton should start, both Edwards & Johnson will battle for substantial time. Although Kelsay may start off the git, he’s 4th on my chart; 5th if Darius moves to end. Then there is the wildcard in 56, if healthy bumps the rest.
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by Blood, sweat & Win on Jan 31, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions
The sad thing
is that your comment about Kelsay sums up the Bills organization. While I think Brian is right in saying that Chris is not going anywhere, it depresses me every year that he is considered a starting player on this team. He is a below average NFL player who had limited athletic ability and now is on the wrong side of 30. To my mind they actually need Carrington to beat out Kelsay badly this coming year. Moats, it seems, has no position with this team. Perhaps a back up weak side blitzing linebacker?? He does not have DE size and cannot play the run at all as a SAM Backer. Reading about the depth (or lackof) on this roster is really depressing. What happens if Sheppard is not good enough? Lots of work to re-build this team.
Don't Dog Kelsay.
His importance to this defense is actually really weird. When he was in the lineup the Bills d was a heck of alot better then it was without him. He is a starter in the NFL, he’s not elite, he’s not below average. He’s a guy with a big heart and a good leader for the youth on this team. He’s a pro, he keeps his mouth shut and he shows up every Sunday to play the game he loves at a high level. You ouldn’t really ask for much more. He gets pressures, not sacks but he causes sacks. is he overpaid? for sure, but i would have Chris Kelsay on my team any day of the week.
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by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 2, 2012 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
Caarington and Kelsay.....
I sure hope Carrington has been told what his position is and is working to get at a specific weight the coaches set for him…. I think he was much too heavy to play 4-3 end last year…..I would guess 275 (285 tops) would be about right for him at end….. He has to be that much quicker to set the edge and rush the passer…that’s 30 lbs. Folks….not easy.
If Kelsay is our best guy at LE next year, get ready for another 6 & 10 season….
Like him coming off the bench though….he’d make more plays and get hurt less…..
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especially since we probably drafted him BECAUSE he could hold more weight as he grew into his frame.
I believe he can work hard enough to do it, I think that he might be able to get down, even to that target, but that won’t make him instantly and explosive passrusher. He is more likely a run stopping DE, who might only be played situationally. which would be kinda under using him, IMO.
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by ThaRealTruth on Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Throw A record contract at Mario Williams and bam !!! We’ve got one of the best lines in the league. He’ll double the teams sack total and picks will double from QB’s throwing under duress.
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by J. Mackin on Jan 31, 2012 7:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
When it’s all said and done, I’ve got a loose starting lineup that looks like this:
LE: Chris Kelsay
DT: Marcell Dareus
DT: Kyle Williams
RE: (vacant)
SLB: (vacant)
MLB: Kelvin Sheppard
WLB: Nick Barnett
Concerning-if Williams isn’t back, and Kelsay can’t set the edge. Basically means we are lopsided, at best, or full of holes otherwise. That is a scary front 7 situation, currently.
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I THINK CARRINGTON DEFINATELY PLAYS A LOT AT AT LEAST ONE OF THE DE SPOTS AND I DONT THINK MERRIMAN IS DONE
Carrington is a tremendous athlete with size and power he dominates at time seems to lack focus more than anything. Merriman had a surgery that he should have had years ago and i would not be shocked if u see a player resembling the guy that we used to call lights out. I know your saying this is bold but I have heard a lot of great things about his work ethic
If they don't draft a QB first round
then I’m thinking Coples may be the pick at DE and then a LB, possibly Lavonte David in the 2nd.
Check out http://mocknfldrafts.blogspot.com/
My question is
why wouldn’t they put all the big beefy guys up front. Dareus at LDE Kelsay at RDE and Williams and Troup at DT. That would help stop the run and focus on drafting/signing fast LBs to keep contain. Also with guys like Dwan Edwards, Kellen Heard, and Shawne Merriman our depth remains the same IMO.
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I'm only saying this because
it is looking more and more like the Troup pick was a reach to begin with and now a wasted pick if the guy is only going to be Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus’ backup. An early 2nd round pick who has hardly seen the field and now will be relgated to backup duty? Wasted if you ask me.
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Making a bad/rash decision...
…because you already made one early is a pretty terrible idea. Accept you made a mistake and move on…
Catch the Taste!
Agree and disagree
When they made that pick, they didn’t have a NT on the team yet. They were fairly confidant that Meatball would NOT make a good NT. So, they drafted Troup to be their starter of the future. Meatball was a holdover until the more talented Troup was ready to step in. Obviously, that is not how it worked out. And that is what can happen. Sometimes, a 5th rounder is just better then a second (or first for that matter) round pick. At least they found that diamond in the rough. I’d consider it a wasted pick if they still had no talent in that spot.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

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