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Senior Bowl summary on players of note.

Now that the Senior Bowl is over with, I decided to do read some summaries of what players stock rose and which one's dropped, in regards to players mentioned that the Bills might draft in 1st round. A name that most people have not mentioned, probably because you can't spell it,

is Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington, really rose - The following was written about his performance in practices, etc.

If scouts were hoping to be wowed by Ta'amu, all they need to due is watch the Senior Bowl game film. The big defensive tackle was dominant every time he lined up and was a constant nuisance for opponents. He collapsed the pocket on several occasions, overpowering opponents to make plays behind the line of scrimmage or force the action. His quarterback pressure at the end of the first half ended what looked to be a potential scoring drive for the South. In the second half the South was forced to double team Ta'amu in the attempt to slow him down.

When the Bills missed passed on Ngata for Whitner years ago, I have envisioned the Bills drafting a large Defensive Tackle to stop the run, ala Ted Washington. I just wonder if the Bills would take him in the 2nd round if he is there, with Kyle Williams and Dareus as starters. Would it be worth it?

Most mock drafts have had Bills taking Coples or Upshaw, of which the following was written about Coples Senior Bowl experience:

Quinton Coples/DL/North Carolina: Coples flashed brilliance during the game, looking like a man among boys at times. His athleticism is incredible, as Coples beat opponents with quickness, speed and power. On several occasions he had Kelechi Osemele flailing in an attempt to slow him down. When he could not get to the quarterback, Coples got his long arms up to swat away passes. When he's on his game Coples is a difference-maker up front. The problem for scouts is determining how often Coples is willing to play at his highest level.

Vinny Curry/DE/Marshall: Curry continues to impress scouts with his ability to get penetration across the line of scrimmage. He was constantly in the backfield and his quarterback pressures in the first quarter caused a lot of problems for the South. On one occasion Curry bull rushed the much larger Zebrie Sanders into the pocket which resulted in a loss of yardage. Curry has significantly improved his draft stock this week and a good combine workout could secure him a spot in the late part of Round 1.

Nigel Bradham/OLB/Florida State: Bradham was fast and athletic all game long, running down opponents from all directions of the field. He was terrific in pursuit and Bradham made several outstanding plays in open space. Bradham showed skill in pass defense and was on top of his game covering tight ends and running backs.

Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, 6’2, 273, Alabama

Upshaw spent part of the week at defensive end where he showed a number of teams he has the tools to make the transition at the NFL level. Upshaw’s versatility will present teams with a number of options, lets him play in a number of schemes and in a league where the hybrid defense is becoming the norm, allows him to stay on the field for more downs.

Part of Upshaw’s problem coming into Senior Bowl week was that he was a player who had been used primarily as an edge rusher at Alabama. He was asked to pin his ears back and attack more so than to read and react so questions about his football IQ needed to be answered. What coaches and scouts got to see was an intelligent, instinctual linebacker who has the versatility to play down on the line if need be. He lacks the football IQ of Luke Kuechly and as such will require more coaching but his athleticism is better. He probably made his way up into the top half of the first round last week.

Melvin Ingram, DE/OLB, 6’2, 276, South Carolina

Ingram and Upshaw have a lot in common in terms of skill-sets and versatility, but unlike Upshaw who played linebacker in college and is looking at playing some defensive end in the pros, Ingram was recruited as a linebacker, played end in college and now he’s making the switch back the other way. Headed into the Senior Bowl teams wanted to see how the Gamecock defensive end could make the transition and were pleasantly surprised.

Ingram would have work to do in order to make it happen correctly, he’d have to work on changing his body type a little and he needs to work on technique quite a bit, but you can’t teach athleticism. That’s what coaches and scouts saw in Mobile, he has the tools, he just needs the coaching. He also brings the versatility to be able to play a few different positions in a number of different schemes. That versatility, like with Upshaw, should help raise his stock on its own, but coupled with the week Ingram had in Mobile, he’s really helped himself.


Stock has dropped:


Russell Wilson/QB/Wisconsin: Wilson was terrific when he lined up in the shotgun and was able to move outside the pocket and throw on the move. When he was asked to play in an NFL style offense it was a completely different story. From the pocket Wilson sprayed his passes around the field and missed an easy scoring opportunity early in the game when his throw was wide of the mark. He showed little in the way of pocket presence or the ability to sense the rush. Wilson is a tremendous athlete, but he needs a lot of work before he'll be an NFL-ready passer.

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So every player not mentioned in your list that played in the Senior Bowl remain the same evaluation-wise, or is this just some of the players that you were interested in?

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When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 31, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Russel will need a team thats willing to do what the saints do for breeze. Have the line men take a step up and form lanes that he can step up and get a better view. I am gonna guess that he could not see much during the senior bowl.

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by matthew62 on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

43 and Brockers

Since this draft is on the rich side in linebackers what about taking Brockers with our first creating a feared defensive line and selecting the best LB’s in rounds 2 and 3?

by Gonzo142 on Feb 1, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

The swithc to the 4-3 makes the Bockers pick much less attractive

We have Williams, Dareus, and Troup to play DT. What we don’t have are pass rushers. We could take DE’s with our first two picks in this draft and still end up thin if Merriman can’t play.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

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by Joe P. on Feb 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is more of a reason to take Brockers then. Obviously it’s just my opinion, but if we spend two picks in the first two rounds on DEs and we’re still short it doesn’t sound like they’d meet value.

While it isn’t ideal to take Brockers, he would give us incredible depth – assuming that he’d meet draft expectations. Williams and Dareus have to come out at some point, and having someone who could come in without much of a talent/play drop off could really wreak havoc on opposing O-lines.

Kyle Williams = 2/3 of snaps at DT1
Marcel Dareus = 2/3 of snaps at DT2
Michael Brockers – 1/3 snaps at DT1 + 1/3 snaps at DT2

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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 1, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I am hoping Troup will be able to step up and take those snaps
but if we spend two picks in the first two rounds on DEs and we’re still short it doesn’t sound like they’d meet value.

No….that just goes to show you how bad our situation is at DE…..we have to start fixing the pass rush.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Feb 1, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if Brockers is BPA I personally hope they take him, unless there is a DE around that pick (that is available) who grades only slightly lower than Brockers. In that case I’d be fine for balancing BPA + Need [say, if Brockers was rated a 90/100 and Ingram was “only” a 88/100]

"Everyone who has conducted an expedition will know how ready the world is to do the great injustice of heaping the whole praise or blame for its success or failure on the shoulders of the leader alone."
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 1, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

despite the bills depth at DT, and their desperate needs elsewhere, id have a difficult time being upset if they took brockers. he is an immensely powerful man who could very well be a dominant defensive lineman in the NFL.
the bills would finally establish an identity if they took brockers- and that identity would be having far and away the best defensive tackle rotation in football.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 2, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m leaning more and more towards Coples because of one key term – “difference-maker.” There have been plenty of superstars that have had their motivation questioned, but when games nowadays typically come down to single plays that dramatically affect the outcomes (third down conversions & stops, turnovers), don’t you want a difference maker in there for those plays? That’s what’s been lacking for years on this team, that’s really not that far away when healthy. Games are turning on the ability to get a stop or TO when needed. Bruce Smith was sometimes invisible for 3 quarters and then stepped up big time when a play was needed late. I’ll take the difference maker and hope he can be keyed in vs. another high-effort guy whose efforts yield little in terms of results.

by BuffaloRepresent on Feb 1, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Guess what I'm saying is

Take the highly talented guy and hope he can be motivated > take the motivated guy and hope he can become talented.

by BuffaloRepresent on Feb 1, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i totally disagree. you need a talented roster, but you also need a good locker room. i wouldnt want the bills to risk the stability and passion of the locker room for any single player, regardless of talent. id take the less talented, but ultra-passionate player over a guy like coples any day.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

But, at some point, hopefully, our locker room will be strong enough for us to take a shot on a guy like him the way that Balt and Pitt do, and get all pros like that.

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 1, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you’re saying, but to be fair, the so-called stable, passionate locker room is not producing wins right now. Winning trumps everything, and we need all the talent we can get right now, especially when it comes to a pass rush, where it takes a special player to make an impact – good efforts and intentions don’t get it done. If Coples was motivated at the Senior Bowl, why would he not be motivated to play for his next contract? We all know his rookie deal will be minimal compared to what he can get if he puts up 3-4 strong seasons.

by BuffaloRepresent on Feb 1, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree….. I think if Coples is there you take him, irreguardless of Motivational issue. I think we have plenty of leaders on this team right now to whip him into shape.

Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 1, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

just because you are stuck in the south

doesn’t mean you need to use their silly, made up words. =)

I think if Coples is there you take him, irreguardless regardless of Motivational issue

It’s just “regardless”. Nothing more or less. It isn’t flammable/inflammable. hahaha

Sorry. don’t be mad. I have a lot of family in the south, who get far more teasing.

That said: I don’t agree. Draft the hard workers, let the other teams take the “talented” non workers. we have had enough of those ourselves,and I prefer guys like that to be on other teams. We aren’t so “stacked” with veteran leadership that we should willingly add a cancer. Does Coples qualify as that? I don’t really believe so. I would still take the chance on him, though one of the things I would be MOST leery of, would be “motivational issues”.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 2, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

aaawww, you don’t like the southern slang terms? Your taking all the fun out of the post. But seriously, there are enough leaders on this team….. Eric Woods, Kyle Williams, Barnett to take him off to the side and have a buddy to buddy talk with him. In Woods case, he would just light into him right on the practice field, like he did with Maybin. I think Coples will be ok, only review of game tape will tell if he is taking plays off, or, he is truely being double teamed constantly and that is why his decline in sacks this season. We will see ya’ll.

Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 2, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

only review of game tape will tell if he is taking plays off

review the senior bowl. there were plays he wasn’t competing very hard. now, whether that was relative to scheme/play… like if the staff wanted to force certain circumstances, given the nature of the special rules (no blitz/cover 1 or 3 only etc) that he was supposed to specifically try to bat balls, or just occupy space… i don’t know. I know he made tons of plays, but he seemed to take plays off too. That stuff does translate, and this isn’t the first we heard of it.

Southern slang is fine. It is kinda funny. I just figured it was the easiest way to point it out, without upsetting you. far be it from me to remove fun. that is not my intention. i just didn’t want you to take it as a “jab” when really, it was more like a grinning nudge. : )

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 2, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

but the game tape does show coples slacking entirely too frequently during the 2011 season. that much is generally agreed upon by anyone whose watched him closely

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 2, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

if coples plays hard solely for the purpose of landing a big contract, it makes him even less attractive in my eyes.
i want the bills to draft players who go 100 miles an hour because they love the game of football, and footballs a game thats played with passion and desire

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 2, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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