Stevie Johnson's Place In A Weak 2008 NFL Draft Receiver Class

by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST in Buffalo Bills News

Think back to the 2008 NFL Draft. The Buffalo Bills had a moribund passing attack, had no legitimate No. 2 receiving option after a two-year experiment with Peerless Price fizzled out, and were looking for a red zone complement to speedy top receiver Lee Evans.

2008 was the wrong year for the Bills to be in the market for a receiver. Of the 37 wide receivers selected that season, only one - Philadelphia's DeSean Jackson - has averaged 1,000 receiving yards per season. The man closest to him in that department, Miami's Davone Bess, was an undrafted free agent.

Still, not all was lost, as this rather poor draft class has produced some late bloomers. One of them is Jordy Nelson, who is coming off a 15-score season with Green Bay. Another, as you're well aware by the headline, is the Bills' own Stevie Johnson, picked behind a whopping 30 receivers that April.

Johnson has only really been productive for two of his four professional seasons, and already ranks near the top of his draft class in receptions, yardage and touchdowns. Where exactly does he rank? Find out after the jump.

In terms of receptions, Johnson ranks fifth among his draft classmates, having hauled in 170 passes throughout his career. 158 of those receptions have come in the last two years. He falls behind Bess (260), Jackson (230), Eddie Royal (206) and Pierre Garcon (188) in career receptions. For now.

As far as yardage goes, Johnson is sixth, with 2,189 career receiving yards - 2,077 of which have come in the past two seasons. That ranks him behind Jackson (4,096), Bess (2,669), Nelson (2,531), Garcon (2,519) and Mario Manningham (2,315).

Johnson's 19 career touchdowns - 17 of which have come in 2010 and 2011 - rank him third on the list, where he trails only Jackson and Nelson, who have each recorded 21 touchdowns.

We keep mentioning the last two seasons because, again, Johnson wasn't a significant part of Buffalo's offense until last season, when Chan Gailey arrived as the new head coach. Let's stack Johnson's numbers up versus the six names mentioned above (Bess, Jackson, Royal, Garcon, Nelson and Manningham) to see how each has performed in the last two years:

Name	Rd.	#	Rec.	Yds.	Avg.	TD
Stevie Johnson, BUF	7	224	158	2077	13.1	17
DeSean Jackson, PHI	2	49	98	2017	20.6	10
Jordy Nelson, GB	2	36	113	1845	16.3	17
Pierre Garcon, IND	6	205	137	1731	12.6	12
Mario Manningham, NYG	3	95	99	1467	14.8	13
Davone Bess, MIA	UDFA		130	1357	10.4	8
Eddie Royal, DEN	2	42	78	782	10.0	4

There you have it: Johnson is tops in receptions, yards and touchdowns (despite one heck of a surge from Nelson in that department) amongst the 2008 NFL Draft receiver class over the past two seasons. Between Johnson, Nelson and Jackson, the poor draft class has been able to salvage a trio of really good receivers; add in Garcon and Manningham, not to mention a large contingent of productive depth options that we won't name here, and the class isn't all that bad at all.

Thankfully, Buffalo emerged with Johnson, and has allowed Bills fans to forget about 2008 second-round pick James Hardy, who has 10 receptions for 96 yards on his career.

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Sign Him

If SJ doesn’t get signed there will be a mutiny.

by mugginns on Jan 5, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions

I wrote this post in part because I found it interesting, but also in part because I had a friendly wager in place with a friend. The wager: the first comment on this thread would say “Sign Him.” I won the bet.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs

The only reason why they might avoid signing him would be if they think he’s becoming a discipline problem. I think he understood the benching for the TD celebration, so hopefully that has been nipped in the bud.

by SiriusRed on Jan 5, 2012 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

And the penalty was because of Johnson’s ignorance of the rules, not because of intent.

Frankly, I think his asking price is pretty quite reasonable.

by Pistol on Jan 5, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions

How?

Can it be his ignorance of the rules if he did the exact same thing last season in Cincy and didn’t get a flag for it?? More like it was an official using his personal power to penalize Stevie at his descretion. Even Chan said it was questionable and would take it up with the league office.

Trample the weak, hurdle the dead!

by fansince83 on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I can't believe how many Bills fans don't have Stevie's back on this...

It is like they are expecting to lose him and want an excuse to hate on him and why it is OK for the Bills to let him go……sad indeed.

"Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there." - John Wooden

"Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu

by Joe P. on Jan 5, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

Fans are stupid.

1.) (From a QB’s perspective). At home games when their team’s QB is motioning with his hands to be quiet, they get louder most of the time.

2.) (From a Owner’s and GM’s perspective). Fans complain and whine that you don’t do your job right. And even if you do everything that they want and it doesn’t work out, they blame you. They are never satisfied. They always have a complaint. (Watch people criticize Ralph if they decide to give Freddy more money and he gets hurt. Seriously watch. It will happen almost instantly. Even if they were one of the people saying that he should get paid more.)

3.) They believe that they are mind readers and know everything that is happening. (Cough, cough. The people that thought that Kyle Williams was packing it in because he got another contract.)

by AP22 on Jan 5, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions

4.) We think it is a good idea to tear down the goal posts even though it is dangerous and it is only week three.

5.) We make stupid bets with friends, etc (See recent ESPN commercial).

6.) We charge out onto the field and look like a fool.

by AP22 on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions

i friggin HATEEE when the bills crowd gets super loud while the bills are on offense in the redzone. it drives me nuts

by Air Compressor on Jan 6, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions

Is that you Fitz?

by AP22 on Jan 6, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah

He’s young and more importantly a gifted WR. He suffers from experience in the limelight I hope. We’d be remiss in not signing this kid and hope he gets a clue regarding refs/media.

GF Got Log Cabin And Dog. God I miss The Dog. Like I Miss Jim Kelly.

by buffalobacker on Jan 6, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions

Lol :)

I should say, the statistics are very interesting, and you’ve done well in laying it out.

by mugginns on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions

I recall

a certain Editor-in-chief once state, “If I were a betting man, and I’m not”….Oh those days of innocence.

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According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)

by fansince60 on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, I’m really cutting-edge these days.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

This wager clearly put you on the cusp of “high roller” status

by kfisk214 on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions

please!!!!!

keep the good players here and dont let em walk like we usually do

by BillsFan1972 on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions

how do we know you didnt delete all the other comments posted before this one?… :) jk

by statcruncher on Jan 5, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions

"Sign Him." I won the bet.

Is there a contingency part of the bet where it is null and void if, say Mugginns misspelled his post and wrote “Sing Him” instead?

Da'Jon McKnight - WR (Minnesota) - 6'3'' 211Lbs. (5th Round)

1st Round Targets: Courtney Upshaw 3-4 OLB, Alshon Jeffery WR, David DeCastro OG, Justin Blackmon WR, Ryan Tannehill QB, Sam Montgomery 3-4 OLB
2nd Round Targets: Jared Crick (3-4DE & 4-3LDE), Melvin Ingram 3-4OLB, Kirk Cousins QB

by NordicBillsfan on Jan 5, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions

All these comments....

and no one, until I, ask the question…. “What were the stakes of the wager Brian???”

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions

That was a horrible year for WRs.

When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions

Don’t forget who the Bills took in round two — James Hardy. On those rare occasions when he wasn’t injured, he looked like he didn’t know how to run a route.

by SiriusRed on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Remember when,

Hardy was going to learn alot from TO? haha

Screw you MSG, and screw you TWC!
I want my Sabres!

by bflo on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

remember when he scored a TD in his second game and everyone thought he was gonna be great?

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Jan 5, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions

i was at that game

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
To us winning is a tradition. We are victors and need not explain. You may hate us, but your girlfriends love us. - BC
One more than Shaq. - Kobe answering how it felt to win Championship number 5.

by silverstreak3k on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

Me too

SO HOT. They ran out of water at half… ugh

Also dumb tailgating

Screw you MSG, and screw you TWC!
I want my Sabres!

by bflo on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions

I found an unused drinking fountain and took advantage of it. Everyone around filed suit.

Shun the non Billievers!

by Superduff on Jan 6, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions

I remember saying, late in that season, that Stevie showed a lot of promise. I never understood what the Bills saw in Hardy other than height.

by SiriusRed on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I never understood what the Bills saw in Hardy other than height.

Wasn’t Hardy billed as being 6’ 7’ but was actually 6’5’ once he got to the combine?

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by Goose22 on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions

Don’t forget who the Bills took in round two — James Hardy.

Never forgot, and Brian mentioned this in the last sentence of the article:

Thankfully, Buffalo emerged with Johnson, and has allowed Bills fans to forget about 2008 second-round pick James Hardy, who has 10 receptions for 96 yards on his career.

When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions

I remember the Limas Sweed vs. Malcolm Kelly debate made my head hurt, I “knew” both would be good, just couldn’t figure out which one was going to The HOF.

by garcia76 on Jan 5, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Both are...

assuming that they purchase an admission ticket like anybody else.

by SiriusRed on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Devin Thomas too. He was big, fast and played for a cold weather college.

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by kaisertown on Jan 5, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, yeah, forgot about him, he was my favorite. Some prognosticators picked him to Buffalo in the first round.

by garcia76 on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

and Bowman....

but his off field, and speed issues sank him fast…

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions

Yes!

Oh lord, there was almost a civil war here about who to take – Kelly or Sweed.

When we didn’t pick/missed out on them both there were some grumpy grumpies.

by lord gloom on Jan 6, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions

Seems like Johnson is a good guy – he just needs to mature. I was glad to see even after his benching in the NE game, he still was on the sideline encouraging his teammates, and not off sulking somewhere.

Funny with Hardy being taken in the 2nd round and washing out, and Johnson in the 7th becoming a star. Kind of similar to McCargo being taken in the 1st, and the same year getting Kyle Williams in the 4th – or Mike Williams in the 1st and Jason Peters as a free agent signing.

by jhloje on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions

I noticed and appreciated Stevies’ demeanor too, hardly diva like.

by garcia76 on Jan 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

He seems more like a kid having fun than a diva. He just needs to stop going overboard with the TD celebrations. Other than that, he injects such much-needed personality into what would otherwise be a very dull team.

by SiriusRed on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

He seems more like a kid having fun than a diva.

This is what I see, too.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Jan 5, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions

and it means

that he might grow up.

no one ever expected TO to grow up out of being TO, but it seems rather feasible that Stevie could grow up a bit.

by lord gloom on Jan 6, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions

how about we do it every year?

a first round prospect followed by a developemental guy in the same position… seems to be working..

by statcruncher on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions

Working for mediocrity, sure.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions

And if we hadn’t done it where would we be now?

by AP22 on Jan 5, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

If the Bills could show up for the first few rounds of the draft, they might just learn how to build a football team.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions

Almighty bills keep SJ13

Because if you don’t a lot of die hard bills fans who want nothing more but to win will question your organization’s effectiveness to want the same thing

by #1billsfan on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Take away his drop against the Steelers and the one this year against...Cincy?

and his two penalties,

he has been top level.

Signing Fred and Stevie to new contracts is pivotal to this team’s progress. They are leaders and Stevie is the leader and face of a young talented group that we want to maintain and add to.

They say the Kelsay signing was doe to his play and presence in the locker room, Signing Fred is the same thing for the offense.

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions

He might have had the 2 best games of anyone against Revis this season

The drops hurt, and the penalties don’t help (he has to get it in line, but I also think it’s overstated a bit- didn’t he just have 2 excessive celebration penalties this year, and the second was for something he didn’t get flagged for last year against the Bungles?), but the guy, if not elite or top level already, is so close he should get there next season.

by the landriest on Jan 5, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions

he is close fore sure

he needs to decide if he wants to get there. He has the ability, just not the attitude

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed. Not Cincy, Jets right?

by garcia76 on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions

yeah, i think your right

we never had a shot at the end against Cincy

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions

I saw it live at Metlife Stadium :(

by the landriest on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions

I think this info helps us realize that Stevie is a "#1". He may not have good speed, but he makes catches and TD's at an almost elite rate.

I feel like my head will explode when I hear people argue that he’s not a “#1” WR because he can’t break a 70yd TD.

He’s proven he can beat elite defenders when they are game planning for him. To me, that’s all I need to see to know he can be a go to guy. He still has parts of he needs to work on to be considered elite, but his skill set gets the job done as is.

"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop

by lonestar_ak on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions

I often feel he’s not a #1 WR because he disappears for long stretches. I’m beginning to wonder if that’s more to do with the QB situation than anything.

Still, I want him putting up at least 80 yards and a score every week before I can say he’s a dominant sound #1 WR prospect.

But he needs to be paid, and soon.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

He doesn’t disappear for that long. It’s more on the QB than anything, and as the post below me says, he doesn’t drop them often, but due to the timing, us fans remember them more.

He made Revis look pretty bad this year, and that reason alone should prompt them to resign him. I remember seeing him play against the Browns on the MNF game in Buffalo back in ’08 and saying that he looked better at what he did than Hardy. Glad to see him get a chance to prove it.

Stevie and Freddy are BY FAR my two favorite players of this generation. They add such character to this squad , and they produce on the field, AND their teammates look up to them. If the future has both of them in it, the future is bright.

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by dEnnistheMenace88 on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions

I do think they need to figure out ways to have him stretch the field. He’s not slow. He IS an NFL player, afterall.

He ran a 4.58 at the NFL combine and a 4.46 at his pro day workout.

And according to this site:
http://40-yard-dash-times.com/buffalo-bills-wr.html

He’s nearly the same speed down the field as Donald Jones, whom I cannot figure out why Gailey loves so much.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions

Or Fitz

by Pistol on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

Fitz what? Why Gailey loves him so much?

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

But how many “dominant sound #1 WRs” are there? 5? Just about every receiver is going to have a handful of games with less than 80 yards. In fact, this year, only 5 WRs averaged more than 80 yards/game (and two TEs).

1004 yards for Johnson this year was good for 19th among receivers; that’s about where I’d slot him.

by Pistol on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions

He's not far off from that pace though.

In basically 15 games, since he sat most of last due to his own antics, he still managed to come in #19 in receiving yards. That’s not factoring in the couple games this year where Fitz couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn and was abysmal.

I don’t think Stevie will ever be a top 5 WR and truly elite, but the fact that he could walk onto the field for almost half the teams in the league and be their top target should tell us that him being our top target is just fine.

Basically, he’s not a player that needs to be upgraded IMO. He can be a top target on a playoff team, so we need to keep him around. If we find better, great, but let’s not start searching again if we don’t have to.

"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop

by lonestar_ak on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions

FYI, I saw somewhere, sorry no link, Stevie was not in the top 32 WR’s in drops. His drops are big ones though, makes you hope he isn’t thinking about his celebration before he catches the damn ball.

by garcia76 on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions

He dropped 3 passes this year. Many receivers dropped more than that in single games.

"Go check on the ribs!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

dunno if i buy that

"The Buffalo Bills have just exploded all over the Cincinnati Bangles"
-Steve Tasker-

by billsoferie on Jan 5, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I'd question.....

He dropped 3 passes this year

that stat too….. I remember one game alone, seeing 3 drops…

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions

drops tend to be an ambiguous stat. what actually constitutes a drop isnt clearly defined by the nfl so its a stat that tends to not be accurate

by Air Compressor on Jan 6, 2012 7:34 AM EST up reply actions

Considering wr breeds more divas then any other positions I don’t think Johnson’s a major discipline worry. The occasional excessive td celebration at least means we’re scoring Tds. The front office wants fitzpatrick to be the man they need to surround him with the talent to succeed starting with his best repore receiver.

Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train

by J. Mackin on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions

Just needs to be creative but fall within the confines of the No Fun Rules

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by Buffalo Stro on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

sign him!

Sign him please!

by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions

You seem to be making the case that Johnson is well worth the$7.5 million he asked for and that Nix thought was $2 million too high.

I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.

by Ron From NM on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions

i think he is def worth that money

im surprised so many on here are not.

by silverstreak3k on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

we have to keep someone!

Especially cause I saw more than 200 #13 jerseys at the Bills game in SD.

by SpiderWeb Sleeves on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

if they sign stevie long term

ill get one. my fav no is 13, so it will work out nicely.

by silverstreak3k on Jan 5, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions

$$$$$

Who else could they sign for that price who is that productive? I hope they pull the trigger bit this is the most frustrating franchise in all of pro sports.

by itwasaforwardpass on Jan 5, 2012 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

wait.... stop.... get back.....

NO ONE that plays A GAME for a living, is actually worth the kind of money we tend to throw their way….

I’m darn good at the games of Chess and Life…. Wanna sign me up??? It’ll cost ya!!!!

Joking aside…. Soon, I’m sure we’ll have a thread about a rise in ticket prices or NFL merchandise… Will we blame Ralph??? Or will we remember we all said, “pay the man!!!!”

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions

they can raise prices

only if they spend the money to keep good players which leads to more wins…haha

you are right “worth” is relative, but in this business for a guy like stevie, its pretty worth it.

by silverstreak3k on Jan 5, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions

your just mad because of

MSU, haha. too soon?

by silverstreak3k on Jan 5, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions

Grrrrrrrrrr

I was working that day, and had the TV in the break room on and kept running in to check…. Went to a meeting when the Dawgs had the ball, winning, with 3 minutes left…..

Wasn’t till on my way home I heard the HORROR of it all!!!!!

But….. wait till next year….

:-)

Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!

by Cinga on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

Dawgs

Hate to say this as a Gator fan but the Dawgs have the pieces in place to challenge for the SEC title.Gators are 2 recruiting classes away from being competitive again….

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Dick Butkus

by Goose22 on Jan 6, 2012 8:09 AM EST up reply actions

They are worth whatever the market is willing to pay, unfortunately.

"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.

by stetzwebs on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions

If I were making that case, I would explicitly say that.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 6, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions

Wow! That kinda blew my mind.

Awesome analysis. Never even thought of it.
You da man Brian!
As usual.
Rec’d.

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM EST reply actions

SIGN HIM YESTERDAY BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Jan 5, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions

What's the going rate?

Nix knows the stats, but whoever the top 5-10 receivers are over the past 2 years that have also been resigned in the past 2-3 years, the numbers have to be slightly better than that to adjust for salaries always going up. He’s absolutely VITAL to our WR corps next year and beyond and most importantly still plays very well when hurt. The other question is what playoff contender teams out there would go after him? The Jets? Stevie would probably relish the NY endorsement opportunities. The Bengals to complement Dalton and AJ Green? The Seahawks? There are probably at lest 3-4 competitors out there that Stevie could seriously consider switching too if the $$ was on par. We gotta make our best offer w/out throwing stupid $$ out there. I think it’s going to take about what it seems he’s asking for 7-8 mil/year over at least 4 years w/ at least 15 mil in a comb of signing bonus and roster guarantees.

by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jan 6, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions

Just to clarify...

I’m talking WRs 5 through 10, not in the top 5. He’s not a top 5 guy but I think he is a 5-10 type of guy. Welker is also a UFA this year I believe. Will be very interesting to see what he signs for, albeit it he’s probably only got 2-3 more good years left w/ his age and the amount of catches and hits he takes.

by AlwaysaBillinPhilly on Jan 6, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions