Buffalo Bills Will Host Free Agent CB Stanford Routt
On Thursday afternoon, the Oakland Raiders released their top cornerback, Stanford Routt, on the grounds that his $5 million in guaranteed base salary, as well as other exorbitant guarantees, far overvalued his level of play. Last night, Routt's agent told reporters that his client has lined up visits not only with the Buffalo Bills, but also with Tennessee.
Routt, who will turn 29 in July, is a seven-year pro that signed his now-defunct massive contract when the Raiders lost Nnamdi Asomugha to Philadelphia in free agency. He was one of the NFL's most-penalized defenders in the league last year, tallying 17 penalties for a highly undisciplined Oakland team. That was the highest total of any cornerback in the league - and more importantly, after a strong 2010 season, Routt's play suffered last season without Asomugha on the other side of the field.
Still, Routt is a big (6'1", 195 pounds), fast, physical cornerback capable of playing the multitude of coverages that the Bills employ. Buffalo's interest in the free agent could spell trouble for at least one of two veteran corners already on the roster: Terrence McGee and Leodis McKelvin. (Our bet is on the injury-prone McGee.) In Buffalo, Routt would easily compete for a starting job alongside Drayton Florence and Aaron Williams.
Routt will arrive in Buffalo on Sunday and visit with the team on Monday. He can sign with a team at any point, as he was released and does not need to wait for his contract to expire like other impending free agents.
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I believe Routt could do some special things here. The penalties will, I believe, fade off a little this year as he gets used to not playing alongside another incredible CB. His stats and physical attributes are still fantastic. Buffalo would be in a good position moving forward if they got this guy under contract.
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Seriously. If people complained up and down (and some even exaggerated) every time Florence got penalized, can you imagine what it would be like if Routt played here? I’m not saying the Bills shouldn’t look him over, but people often want a name at the expense of what his game is really like.
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by thefourwinds on Feb 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
at least routt is 6'1" and fast
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you. I’m just pointing out that if we all thought DFlo had a problem with penalties, the howling will be 10 times as bad with Routt here.
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by thefourwinds on Feb 11, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
From what I’ve heard, Oakland places its CBs on an island with no help. That could correlate considerably to the inordinate amount of penalties he incurred.
Would love to get him on the team to replace McGee or Florence. Would also love to get his up-to-the-recent teammate Seymour as it sounds like he’ll be cut for cap reasons (due 7.5 mil base + 7.5 mil bonus but posted 6 sacks last year). Someone asked who would sit between Dareus, Williams, Seymour; Dareus plays 2/3 of snaps, Williams 2/3 of snaps, Seymour 1/3 of Dareus’s left overs + 1/3 of Williams’s left overs =2/3 of snaps. One wouldn’t get the “start” but would get a very similar amount of snaps. The ratio could change depending on Troup warranting playtime, but it would be adding to a position of strength like the Giants do.
Routt and Seymour, two Raiders that need to be Bills if possible – assuming Seymour might come for maybe around 5-6 mil (can make up for this by cutting Edwards and Johnson, both of whom would become expendable at this point.)
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I like it Nordic!
But I don’t see Da Raiders letting Seymour go. They invested a lot of lost draft picks for him.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ya, plus he’s still playing at a good level. 15 mil just sounds a bit rich but maybe the Raiders will swallow it.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
From what I’ve heard, Oakland places its CBs on an island with no help
If the Bills get something that resembles a pass rush in front of him, that will cease being a problem.
Someone asked who would sit between Dareus, Williams, Seymour
How about — NOBODY?
Seymour has been a 4-3 DT and 3-4 DE — and made the pro bowl as both.
Since the Bills are switching back to the 43, his presence would mean either
- he plays DT and Dareus {a college DT} continues to play the DE we switched him to, or
- he plays DE and Dareus goes back to his college position
It all depends on who you think has the bigger learning curve: Dareus for playing a position he was an All-American at in college, or Seymour for going back to a position he was a pro-bowler at in a different formation . . .
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Florence isnt that fast
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he is RIPPED though.
I think he could play safety. Otherwise, he is like Vincent from years ago. He lost a step, he either moves backwards, or he moves on. I am sick of him just getting burned/penalties. Those are two things i rather not have as traits in a cornerback.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ya, Florence is def smart enough to play but it seems like a lot of those penalties are from that lost step you mentioned. He can’t keep up so he’s forced to take the penalty or give up a TD.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 11, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely a player that could help the Bills secondary especailly if they get the penallties under control… Whoa 17 penalties in 16 games is out of control on any team. McGee with his injury problems would be the odd man out… The Titans are trying to have a plan in case Finnegan leaves (another possibility for the Bills)…
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His age and dropoff in level of play are red flags to me.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is what's usually available in FA though.
We’re not going to find many high level players in their mid 20’s that will hit the market, this year being the exception of course.
If he’s an upgrade over Leodis or McGee and can compete for, hopefully, the nickel position then it’s still an upgrade for us.
For players like this is all about value to me, there’s a certain price where he’s an asset to us.
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Key Point...
The key point is value. $5M for his services is way too much. Bringing that down closer to the $2M-$3M range sounds more reasonable if the Bills can get him to sign for that.
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I think it would be a good move to sign him. Maybe to a 3 yr deal. We could have 3 fairly big corners (Williams, DFlo, and Routt) which could help seal the edge. With 2 physical corners we could bring more pressure and have Byrd roaming the secondary to make plays.
by SeanLongWVU on Feb 10, 2012 9:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Rewatched
for what it’s worth I just rewatched the bills-Raiders game this year (so awesome) and it was obvious that Stevie was having his hardest time when Rout was covering him. The only mistake Rout made was committing a bad pass interference. After that penalty Chris Johnson (their other CB) got moved over to cover SJ and SJ just lit him up for like 10 passes.
Sure, good signing if you can make it happen
Unfortunately, good corners get top dollar on the free agent market. Maybe his recent struggles will keep the price low, but if not, I don’t see him in Buffalo. We just don’t have a track record of paying for high priced free agents. I believe he’ll be the best available this off season.
@Slick Shifty
No he’s not. Finnegan, Grimes and Carr are the best CB’s in FA this year. Routt is really good when he’s on his game, but those guys are better.
if he can cut down on the penalties (which he's done previously)
I believe he’ll be the best of that bunch. In my opinion.
by Slick Shifty on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
but the Bills will not be able to sign any of those guys
Routt is exactly the type of 2nd tier FA that the Bills have to sign. Is there some risk?….sure, but it is the best they can do.
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but it is the best they can do.
I agree with you. I just tire of feeling like we have to accept the fact we can’t compete for the best; whether it be a FA, front office personnel, coach, etc.
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It comes with winning
when players believe the Bills can compete for a SB, then FAs will be more willing to come here.
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by Joe P. on Feb 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
it is a step in the right direction…this guy isn’t a scrub….and the more we add players like this the more word gets out that hey buffalo doesn’t suck.
I mean look at Merriman he hated the fact we picked him up at first. Then he came here and he literally recruited a great deal of our defense last year.
The plus side is Routt played against the Bills this season he knows we are for real and def in good shape.
Continued...
sorry it posted early…but just because you land a top tier free agent and spend the money doesn’t guarantee they will produce.
I.E. Our offensive line with Dockery, Albert Hans-worth, i mean even trade value wise look what the Ravens got in dealing for Evans. Most huge free agent deals rarely work out perfectly.
what’s your definition of “recruited a great deal of our defense”? 1 guy?
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by J2 on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
nah...
he recruited 3 guys he got Nick Barrnett i believe, morrison and one other player that i’m blanking on at the moment.
All those guys def credited Merriman and even Nix has highlighted how he has been vocal about getting guys to look into Buffalo.
I’m just saying once you get here it is different then what may be in your mind. So much so turns things around.
oh yeah
easy to forget about Morrison, and uh… the fantom player you think we recruited. Since, Morrison never played, and uh… I have no idea who you think we also tried to get. Clabo? We never had a chance for him.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
It comes with winning
when players believe the Bills can compete for a SB, then FAs will be more willing to come here.
And
When more top-tier FAs are willing to come here and help, the Bills will do more winning and compete for a SB.
And round and round we go . . .
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It is only a circular argument if you don't understand/are unwilling to accept the facts of the Bills situation
What do the Bills have to offer a FA? Money…..nope, the Bills don’t want to overpay top tier FAs. Elite QB, dominant offense or defense…franchise stability….nice weather….big market…new stadium….nope. All the Bills have to offer a FA is winning. CHIX must build this team into a playoff contender through the draft. Once they prove they can win a playoff game, then FAs will consider signing with the Bills.
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I’m not so sure if he was saying it was a circular argument, but more of a vicious cycle.
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by thefourwinds on Feb 11, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I am conflicted
I trully believe we have got to get a handle on the injury situation in Buffalo. The only way to do that is to quit signing and resigning injury prone players (Merriman, Bell), and cutting the ones that are currently on the team that we know are at risk (Roscoe, Merriman and McGee) when possible.
My problem here is if I am looking at this right McGee will only get 3.6M in actual money this year and though his cap hit is 6.5M the way his contract was structured cutting him will only cut 2.1M off of the 6.5M. So even if we cut him the bills will only save 3.6M actual money, and 2.1M cap hit. It just does not seem worth it to me. McKelvin is in much the same boat cap wise. His actual pay out is in the 2.6M range but if we cut him we would only save 353K towards the cap.
For these reasons I dont know why Florence could not be the odd man out. Sure he is not as injury prone as Mcgee and he is better than McKelvin, but Routt is better than he is and cutting Florence would save the team a little over 4M actual money and just under 3.6M towards the cap (most of his actual pay out). This also helps in the penalty concern area as if we were to sign Routt and keep Florence we would be a penalty machine, but by replacing Florence with Routt it would not be as bad. I would be fine with a Routt, Williams, McGee, McKelvin, Rogers depth chart with only a minimal increase in cap. Also if we could draft a CB in the top four rounds then we could let McGee walk also with his 2.1M cap savings and end up with a wash on the cap with a depth chart that looks like this. Routt, Williams, McKelvin, Rogers, 4th round pick or higer.
I think this looks like a good signing and gives the teams options moving forward.
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CB’s get penalites when they’re out of position. But a lot of times they get them when they’re being very aggressive. Routt and Florence are aggressive CB’s. They will fight for position with WR’s. And in today’s league officials call more penalties than they should on defenders. A lot of these pass interference calls are highly debatable and WOULD NOT have been called in past years. So PI stats are not always what they seem.
Exactly
I’d rather have an aggressive CB who’s physical and draws the occasional penalty, than a passive one who’s never penalized, but also never has a pick and is constantly burned . . .
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Sure. But what about a CB who gets an avg of more than one penalty per game?
I’m not saying Routt isn’t worth it. But more than one penalty is a lot more than “the occasional penalty.”
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by thefourwinds on Feb 11, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Penalties seems like a relatively solvable problem: especially under disciplined, veteran coaches like Gailey and Wannestedt. I’d take the chance.
At the same time, defensive penalties have increased because of the new chains placed on them. It’s nearly impossible to play physical after 5 yards these days.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with that to a point
Florence is still prone to committ penalties.
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It’s a positive that Buffalo recognizes the urgent need for turnover at the cornerback position. I’d like to see a veteran signed and one drafted in the first four rounds. I’d like at least two out of the three man quagmire released: McKelvin, McGee, Florence. I would pick McGee (can’t be counted on to play at this point) and McKelvin (unless they view him as kick returner who would never play corner unless it was an emergency, but to be honest, I think Rogers and Spiller could easily fill the kick returning duties going forward).
I don’t know anything about Routt and I won’t pretend I do. I don’t like that bio at all, but I wouldn’t dislike the pickup until I saw him screwing up in a Bills uniform. Hopefully- at the very least- this signals that Nix understands that McKelvin can’t play, McGee can’t be counted on, and Florence has regressed to the point that there’s just as good a chance that he’s washed up as there is that he can bounce back to his 2009 form. I view this news as mostly good.
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three man quagmire
LOL
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by thefourwinds on Feb 10, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
This could be good
I’d like to see us take a shot at him. He would be a starter here and that is what this team needs. Lets wait and see if we make a pitch to his agent after the meeting.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.
http://www.nfl.com/player/stanfordroutt/2506377/careerstats
Last year, Routt had 49 Tackles and 4 INT’s. I’d take that kind of production in the Bills backfield. If the Bills can generate a pass rush this season, I’m sure the secondary’s production will increase.
Plus, I’d rather the Bills address some key positions like CB & WR with proven veterans, that way the top 3 draft picks can be used on filling the holes on the defensive front 7.
I’m not an expert on his situation but it could be his penalties jumped up when too much was asked of him. Maybe as a second or third CB he could revert to his great 2010 season.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
So who would actually be the Bills’ 1st CB?
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by thefourwinds on Feb 10, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Florence and Williams would be our starters
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I just don’t think either of them is good enough to be a #1 either.
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by thefourwinds on Feb 11, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Silver and Black Pride made it sound like the Raiders CBs are put on an island, and thus have much more pressure on them — this was supposed to be the reason he gave up so many touchdowns last year.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Silver and Black Pride made it sound like the Raiders CBs are put on an island
How was the Raiders pass rush?
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Don’t recall seeing anything about that. Only news I picked up from them concerning their line was that DT-Kelly drew a lot of double teams.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 11, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I'm torn on this
on one hand, this guy looked awesome 2 years ago…but that was with Asomugha on the other side of the field. I also didn’t realize he was 29— I thought he was a more in the 25-26 year range. But overall I would love to sign this guy for the right price. I can’t believe Oakland would cut him but I guess they are shaking things up over there.
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He’s still in his prime. It’s not like he’s 39. LoL. And they have Williams, Rogers and whoever else they draft this year to develop.
If signed in Buffalo, hopefully Routt can live up to the high bar set by recent Oakland FA’s that Buffalo signed, like Langston Walker and Cornell Green. Oh, wait………..
Not a bad option could mean the end of mcgee
But my guess its the end of florence
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by Gpluehri on Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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McGee is probably done regardless. Florence, I doubt, goes anywhere. Go to the Raiders message boards and folks there are talking about Routt’s season like some here talk about Florence’s. They make plays. They give up plays. That’s the CB position. The Deion Sanders’ of the world are rare. Most CB’s are going to get beat at some point every game. No reason for Florence to be let go.
florence has a high cap savings if he is cut 3+ million mcgee has a 2.1m cap savings if cut
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
He was one of the NFL’s most-penalized defenders in the league last year, tallying 17 penalties for a highly undisciplined Oakland team.
Pair him with Florence, call them the ‘Buffalo Penalty Brigade’.
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by rexachss on Feb 10, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not trying to hijack
but on NFL.com there’s a story on Nix wanting Freddy to finish his career in Buffalo. I like the sound of that.
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The seems to be a consensus on the Raiders blog that Routt is a good #2 CB who was cut because he was paid like an elite #1. Many are hoping he is resigned at a lower cost.
Also read that one of his strengths is man-to-man coverage which is something we need more of.
Remembering that we are in the market for two new cornerbacks, I could see Routt being one of those two CB’s with one more to be signed when FA opens in March.
agreed
we have had high draft choices for CB and WR, we are not in the position to groom this year. fill in the rough spots with vets and let’s get into the playoffs already. use the first three picks in the draft for some stud DL and OLB help.
Depressing
That Florence is even in the running for a starting positions a farce. Routt, Williams, mckelvin, Rodgers would be a compartment 4 some. Draft a young buck in the 3rd round and the secondary will be good to go
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Feb 10, 2012 1:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The only issue I have with this is that none of the players you mentioned is a #1 CB
I think the best route to getting a #1 CB is through FA.
I think
A healthy Williams with a full off-season under his belt can hold down the #1 spot just fine. Might not be the fastest guy on the field but unlike McKelvin he has the head for the game.
Harooo
There all capeable corners, it’s with the hope that one will emerge as an allstar
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Feb 10, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Besides, as long as there competent Byrd, Wilson and searcy can make the plays
Goin off the rails on the "missin' for griffin" train
by J. Mackin on Feb 10, 2012 2:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Another possibility
Bryant McFadden just got cut from the Steelers. More options.
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Do we really need Routt?
We already have Florence on the roster who tends to draw the flag, do we really need another one like him? I say take a pass and look elsewhere.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions
Would Anyone Pick McKelvin Up?
I say keep McGee as he has proven to be capable when on the field. If McGee gives you six good games, you keep him for six games and then you give McKelvin a call.
Is McKelvin a FA?
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
McKelvin is cheap this year. I’d say keep McKelvin in case the proverbial light goes on and sign Routt to replace the expensive McGee (Unless McGee restructured his contract).
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 10, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think the light has already gone on for Leo...........
…. after he was basically benched and only played special teams a few games.
He knows he will have a big contract coming up, so he wants to showcase his talents this year so he can take them to South Beach!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not one not two not three….
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by sketchydave on Feb 11, 2012 8:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Routt would be a solid addition
Just like above, these are the tier free agents that are realistic right now. Cant be spendin 8 mil a year for a Cortland finnegan plus his attitude is not what the bills now are about. Look at poz vs Barnett. Green Bays defense went from fifth ranked 2 yrs ago to 32 last year. Point being, check the guy out, scheme matters and until we win, top tier guys won’t sign here for a deal. We aren’t Pittsburgh, big mouth jets, eagles
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by sketchydave on Feb 11, 2012 9:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
No, but if the Bills released him, would any team really want him? I feel like he would be he guy you want to cut to make room for Routt
I’m sure a few teams would pick McKelvin up if we let him go. A few come to mind, Pats, Jets, Dolphins. Not that I’d be scared to play against him.
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I’m sure a few teams would pick McKelvin up if we let him go
Absolutely, if Youboty can be picked up surely McKelvin would be picked up even if it is just for his return ability…
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I would love this signing.
I think if we signed him, he would pass DFlo on the depth chart. I already believe we have a good CB group. Williams and Routt on the outside, Dflo/Rogers in the nickel is pretty good. Add depth to a position that has hit by injury last year.
Who the hell is Routt? I have no idea and I bet most of you don’t.
You know, they have this wonderful new invention called the INTERNET.
You type his name in the search box, hit “return” or “enter” — and you can find out possibly more than you ever wanted to know about Routt {or anything or anyone else.}
You should try it sometime.
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by go_buff on Feb 11, 2012 5:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rout's contract with Oakland
Apparently his contract by the Raiders had a no offset clause which means the guaranteed money he will earn under the Raiders contract will not be offset by the guaranteed money he signs for elsewhere.
It might not end up mattering too much in the end but still if the Bills or whoever decides to sign him, they might get a slight discount knowing that he will still be keeping all of the guaranteed money he has gotten so far ($15 million).
Usually, when a player is cut and he signs elsewhere, the guaranteed money he gets from the new team is offset against the guaranteed money from his old contract. That won’t happen here.
I'd be down
If McGee and Florence needed to be released to offset whatever Routt would get, I’d take him, assuming another young CB addition in the middle rounds this year. When Routt is playing well, he can cover any WR in the league. He’s big, fast, aggressive and has production to back it up. Depending on Aaron Williams’ development, I think Routt would very easily be our best CB. That may be good and bad, but I think he’s certainly a sizable upgrade over McGee and probably Florence.
I really don’t think he signs here, though, unless Nix blows him away with a contract offer.
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Routt can turn and run
and track the ball in the air. (sometimes I swear our corners aren’t aware that your allowed to look back for the ball.) Love to see him in a Bills uni.
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Routt can turn and run, and track the ball in the air.
And is 6’1", around 200 LBs, and FAST. I like him.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Routt ran the ninth-fastest 200-meter dash in the nation as a junior in college, was both a football and track star, in HOUSTON (I am a HUGE Texas fan… I like any player from the state practically hahaha.) and as an early second round pick (38th) he really has some serious potential still. It doesn’t surprise me that they cut him, because that contract was crazy. Asoumugha (sp?) is a phenomenal corner, and they thought that they would try and tell the fans that Routt was capable of stepping into those shoes. That is a tough thing for anyone, and I think it was unfair.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
Routt ran the ninth-fastest 200-meter dash in the nation as a junior in college
I can picture him running down Chippewa St. or Elmwood Ave-:)
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Routt
I’d rather see McKelvin go. The Bills have enough kickoff return guys and he stinks as a CB.
That being said, he is not worth what Davis paid him,
i like it, he is actually pretty good
Here is some history on the guy (source: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-raiders-routt )
Routt got the big contract after grading out as one of the league’s top cover cornerbacks in 2010. The opposition’s 39.4 percent completion rate when throwing at him was the lowest of any player targeted at least 60 times that season, according to STATS LLC.
that was in 2010 opposite Asomugha. Later on though, they say this about his play last year:
While he once again held opponents to a low completion percentage (47.4 percent) and allowed less than 6 yards per pass attempt for the season, according to STATS, he was susceptible to penalties and touchdowns. He was credited with allowing eight touchdown passes—tied for the second-most in the NFL—and led the league with 17 penalties committed, according to STATS.
Personally, i don’t think he dropped off that much last year, the raiders used a different philosophy last year. First, the pass rush wasn’t nearly as good last year as it was the year before (39 sacks last year, compared to 47 the year before) and also partly due to scheme. The raiders played a very feast or famine defense last year, for the most part it was straight up man to man, which lends itself to penalties and TDs (unless you have a roster of Revis’s), while still having otherwise decent stats. I still believe he can play at a high level.
Overall, I like the pickup and it moves CB down the need list a little bit. Instead of a rd 1-3 pick, we could use a later pick on a developmental guy, since at this point our starters would more or less be set with people on the roster already.have a competition between Mckelvin, Florence, and McGee, and the odd man out gets cut, and if Williams earns the #2 spot, then I would likely cut ties with McGee, due to injury history.
on another note
If Tennessee does win the sweepstakes though, I would be content with Finnegan as a consolation prize (that is the only reason I can think of for why Tennessee would have interest in him). I think Routt is better than Finnegan in terms of ability, but Finnegan held his own the last couple of years as the number 1 guy in Tennessee, and for the most part, has cleaned up his act after his younger more troublesome days. I personally think that both are an upgrade over what we have currently.
not me
Finnegan is a scumbag idiot. He fights with his own teammates. He fights with classy guys. He does play with a lot of intensity, but it costs stupid penalties, and he would be a locker room cancer, IMO.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d. You said it.
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by thefourwinds on Feb 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

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