Jackson, Spiller and the Future of Buffalo's RB
Yesterday, Mike Florio posted an article which, I inferred, showed that the Buffalo backfield may become contentious between Jackson and Spiller. This is a link to that article:
Now, don't get me wrong, I LOVE that we have two backs that have the potential to run for 1,000 yards each. Also, I want to preface this by saying that it was only my speculation that the backfield may become contentious: there has been no other news that Spiller believes he is entitled to be the starter.
However, it is inevitable that players in skill positions will want to be the star and not in a supporting role. Spiller, who was able to show he can be a productive back after Jackson went down, does have a compelling case that he should be the starter and Jackson begins the 2012 season in more back-up role. For one, Jackson is going to be 31 and, even though he hasn't taken the same hits or had the same workload of other NFL RBs, 30 tends to be that age where every ding and dent can have a lasting impact compared to the bumps and bruises a 21 or 22 year old back will face. Additionally, Spiller's ability will only get better as he gets more reps and has the offense keyed to his specific skill set.
Some scenarios that could play out:
1) Jackson is traded to a team that is competitive but needs a productive RB
Detroit and New England come to mind for this. Both of these teams are playoff contenders and could use a seasoned and productive RB like Jackson to add additional depth to their offense. Detroit can't keep a RB healthy so Jackson could be a nice addition for Jahvid Best in order to keep him healthy down the stretch. And, even though New England has the law firm and Danny Woodhead, neither of these backs are extremely productive in the New England system. Jackson could be a productive back behind NE's line and give an extra dimensions to the offense. Also, Jackson could provide NE the chance to use play-action thereby increasing the chance of opening the middle of the field for Gronk and Hernandez or providing time for Brady's receivers to setup down field for long bombs. In this scenario I could also see Cincinnati being in play.
2) Spiller gets traded for draft picks or for a blockbuster trade
Spiller's stock is high now albeit, with reservations. Taking over for Jackson in week 10 provided enough film of Spiller to at least show teams that he is worthy of his first rounder status and the ability to develope and improve; but, given Chan's reluctance to use him more and claiming (my paraphrasing) "he can't handle a full load" the chances of recouping a first or second round pick are minimal. However, getting a third rounder for Spiller or using Spiller as additional bait to trade up is a strong possibility. This would put us in a better position to get a player who will fill in a greater need while. Also, if a team is willing to deal a proven player instead of giving up a draft pick, Spiller could be used to sweeten the pot.
3) Jackson and Spiller are used as a dynamic tandem
This is the scenario I believe will play out. Jackson and Spiller remain a potent backfield with Jackson slowly handing the reins over to Spiller. The way i envision it is Chan and David Lee start to develop more plays for 2012 with single wing, wish bone or I-Bone formations (thus justifying Brad Smith and bringing the wild cat back to the AFC East). In this type of plan, having two potent backs with good hands is a must. Jackson and Spiller can share the role under center or both can be used to block or receive. With this type of offense, Jackson and Spiller will have defenses reeling. In non-wild cat plays, having either in the back field is a good thing.
So what do you think Rumblers???
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Option 4
We use both backs improperly and can’t split carries to where both can be productive
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Feb 11, 2012 1:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If a team offered me a first round
pick for Spiller, would you take it? I’d really have to think hard. Of course, you need to draft a back. But, with that first round pick, you can fill a hole.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.
Nope i wouldn't do that trade
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Feb 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A draft day trade like that
I would be tempted to pull the trigger if, and only if, there was a player high on our board who was still available and we were positive wouldn’t be there in the 2nd round. I still think Spiller is the back of the future in Buffalo but if we have Jackson and a capable third down back, we can still use one of our other picks to get a dynamic back like Spiller who can be groomed.
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by christopher.j on Feb 11, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’d do it if it was a team picking before us, but that’s completely not believable. Also, if we were offered a first and a third or something similar, I’d do it. Other than that, no, absolutely not.
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What the...?
The idea that we could get a first round pick for Spiller or Jackson is rediculous
I don't believe the Bills are looking to trade either RB
So I believe that scenario 3 is more likely to happen. I believe the starting job is still Freddy’s in 2012 but that Chan will find ways to give Spiller opportunities to get the ball in the open field as he continues to earn them.
You must be kidding with scenario 2
There would be mayhem in the streets of buffalo if the bills traded spiller for a 3rd round pick. Most people weren’t a fan of the pick to begin with saying there were many other more pressing needs and it was seen as more of a luxury pick. Now that spiller has shown something if they were to then decide to turn around and flip him for a 3rd it would prove just how poor of an organization we are by trading 1st round picks for 3rd and 4th round picks. It also wouldn’t make sense considering Jackson’s age and now injury concerns.
The more likely scenario is 3 but the one I’d prefer is 1. Jackson’s value will never be higher and his numbers will only go down by splitting time with spiller. Trade him now while his value is highest and turn that (most likely 2nd round pick) into a quality starter at a position of need.
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I agree there would be mayhem
But when has that stopped them from taking a low ball offer??? Evans and Lynch were only worth a 4th rounder to the front office and they were both former first rounders. So part of my rationale was that history.
Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.
by christopher.j on Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
O no doubt
And I didn’t mean to insult you or anything when I said that you must be kidding. They certainly have a history of letting players go for measly picks as you said and it certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility but is probably unlikely. Most people’s rationale behind those moves were that each guy was coming off a down season and weren’t players CHIX picked specifically. Spiller on the other hand is a guy they hand picked and is actually coming off an up year that’s all. Not saying it isn’t possible just highly unlikely. Then again with the bills brass anything is possible haha.
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Thanks
I know you weren’t insulting but It did give me a chance to explain my rationale. I hope they keep both but sometimes the moves of OBD leave me (and i assume others) scratching my head
Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.
by christopher.j on Feb 11, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
I hope that Chan is watching game tapes from the 2011 Saints and the 2010 Chiefs.
Because those offenses are the exact way that Spiller/Jackson should be used. With Spiller playing the flashy, outside the tackles role of Darren Sproles/Jamaal Charles and Freddy playing the hard nosed, between the tackles role of Pierre Thomas/Thomas Jones.
Then re-sign Stevie and add in a second good receiver like Vicent Jackson or Robert Meachem and we can have a running team with a very calculated passing attack and watch out!
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 11, 2012 7:00 PM EST reply actions
I'm with you brother!
Get us two wrs. And keep our two backs!
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by podunkowego on Feb 12, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Why on earth would we trade Freddy to NE?
Honestly…
by KileyJ on Feb 11, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I've maintained that I'd rather keep Freddy
but in the unfortunate even that the Bills traded him, the only team I’d want him to go to is the Green Bay Packers. He would complete the offensive juggernaut that is
Aaron Rodgers (top 3 QB)
Fred Jackson (great pass blocker/catcher, great vision, perfect for the spread)
Greg Jennings (great deep threat)
Jordy Nelson (great complement to Jennings, sure handed with deceptive speed)
Jermichael Finley (very athletic TE who needs to work on concentration)
Randall Cobb (day 2 draft pick with good upside)
Imagine the 2011 Packers offense with Jackson instead of the uninspiring Grant/Starks.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 12, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Trade Spiller for a 3rd?
Sorry, but scenario 1 and 2 are just ridiculous. Kind’ve pointless since everyone knows we aren’t just gonna trade one of them. At least not for a while…
chan will use them better this year
And has more confidences in spiller.
I would trade Fred for a third and nothing less.
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by billsoferie on Feb 11, 2012 9:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
3rd Round Pick?
Our last 5 3rd round picks have been Sheppard, Carrington, Shawn Nelson, Chris Ellis and Trent Edwards..
You really want a 3rd round pick for Freddy? He’d be way more valuable on our team than anything we could bring in.
I’m not totally sure how compensatory picks work either, but if he has another year like this one, we could possibly get a 3rd for him as a free agent right? I hope they can just avoid everything we’re talking about and sign him to a reasonable 3 year extension.
If the Bills ever traded Freddie to NE.
Detroit and New England come to mind for this
I personally would like to kick Nix in the teeth followed by knee capping him, and maybe a few kicks to the gut.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions
i voted Scenario 1
on the premise that since we found it too difficult to make ONE RB productive… that the likelihood of said “tandem” is even less likely to occur, despite overwhelming belief that it is going to. That said, I guess maybe I should have said “Other” and gone with: We will yet again struggle to find a way to feature both guys, causing one to be upset, and the other to be overpaid.
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