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Examining A Buffalo Bills Secondary With Stanford Routt

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The Buffalo Bills hosted free agent cornerback Stanford Routt on Monday, and Jason La Canfora of NFL.com tweeted Tuesday that the team is still talking with the corner despite spending his second day visiting the Kansas City Chiefs. La Canfora also notes that Routt has a meeting with the Cincinnati Bengals scheduled for Friday.

If the Buffalo Bills were able to land Routt, it would almost certainly require a contract somewhere north of the three-year, $15 million contract Drayton Florence signed a year ago. As the only free agent out there right now, Routt may be able to use that leverage to get an even larger deal. For comparison's sake, Ike Taylor signed a four-year, $28 million contract a year ago. If Routt is able to land between Florence's $5 million average and Taylor's $7 million average, he would be looking at a contract in the neighborhood of four years for $24 million.

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With the addition of Routt to the secondary, the Bills would almos certainly have to part ways with one of their cornerbacks. Terrence McGee will be 32 before the end of the 2012 season, and has missed 17 games over the last two seasons. He is scheduled to make $3.2 million in base salary in 2012, and is the prime candidate for replacement.

Routt turns 29 before the start of training camp, and had a rough year in 2011 as Oakland's top cornerback after a solid 2010 campaign. If he came to Buffalo and was put into a rotation with Florence and second-year corner Aaron Williams, would the additional signing bonus and salary be worth it to avoid another injury-plagued year from McGee? Is it a big enough upgrade for that much money, Bills fans?

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I have a feeling he’d lean towards KC because of a familiarity with the division.

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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 16, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

I like the idea

of signing what we hope to be an impact corner in FA, esp if we can get an early jump on it. That being said, I don’t think Routt is the answer. Between the money he will command and his apparent need for an impact corner on the opposite side of him, this just does not seem like the best match. I would rather address WR and/or DE in FA, then use the draft to add other pieces and depth.

by JDSym on Feb 16, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

good to hear

that the Bills are still pursuing this guy. We need a CB upgrade.

by Mindbender14 on Feb 16, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

I’m personally not convinced he is much of an upgrade.
We should spend the extra $6M and give it to the OSI, hook McGee up with some bionic implants.

by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Totally agree! I don’t see Routt as a big upgrade.

by rjryan on Feb 16, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

While we do need a CB upgrade, why set the market at this point. Last year, we nabbed Merriman before he hit the market. Once the market played out, it sure seemed like we overpaid for Merriman. Why not wait and see how the market plays out for Routt and the other available CB’s. You might lose Routt, but there is a pretty deep pool of FAs to chose from.

by mcgrathp on Feb 16, 2012 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

I know an upgrade at CB is needed, but...

I am not certain Routt is an upgrade. I know there are health issues with McGee and inconsistency issues with McKelvin, but there are issues with Routt as well…mainly penalties!

I almost hope this deal doesn’t get done. I’d prefer they address WR, DE or OLB in FA and look for a good CB prospect in the first 2 or 3 rounds of the draft.

If you can rush the passer, you will get more off-balance throws, inconsistent quarterbacking and less abuse on our current corners. This may be a stretch, but do you think McKelvin would look a little better is QBs didn;t have all game to target him? Put some pressure on and allow guys like McKelvin and Williams to make a play on a pass thrown under said pressure.

by rjryan on Feb 16, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

$5-$7 million a year is too expensive.

From what I can tell, there’s not much of a difference between Routt and McKelvin. Guys w/ a lot of promise who haven’t consistently put it all together. Sticking w/ McKelvin is a cheaper option. Take that money and spend it on Stevie, Chandler, Jackson, an SLB.

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by Sawyer in Boston on Feb 16, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

yea give it stevie, we can’t let him leave

by csc06258 on Feb 16, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

If we're looking for a rough and tumble corner

Might as well go with Finnegan. It would be worth it to see him get in fistfights with Welker and Brandon Marshall.

by Chernesky on Feb 16, 2012 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

wow - that thought just made my day

Finnegan jacking up Welker and planting him straight into the ground makes me weak in the knees

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by BillyGoats_DC on Feb 16, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

This is relevant to my interests

by buffalojackson on Feb 16, 2012 10:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I despise Finnegan more than almost any player in the NFL

He not only gets into these fights, he flagrantly starts them. Trouble follows him. It would be extremely hard for me personally to root for that guy in a Bills uni.

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by Dyl on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Agreed and rec

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by lonestar_ak on Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

+2

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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This guy’s bio doesn’t do anything for me. He’s 29 and he’s only been a starter for 3 out of the 7 years he’s been in the league. One of those years was last year when he allowed eight touchdown passes (the second-most in the NFL) and led the league with 17 penalties.

I don’t think the Bills will sign him. He has a lot of visits lined up and Buffalo doesn’t strike me as a franchise that is going to win any bidding wars. All things being equal, they are probably the last franchise a player would sign with due to their unparalleled track record of losing and their having the lowest profile in the league. Simply put, they are #32 of 32 all things considered. The only way Buffalo gets a player with multiple suitors is by paying the most and they are not likely to do that considering their track record. In this case, that might not be a bad thing.

I don’t ever want to see McKelvin play cornerback again (he is that bad), I don’t think I ever will see McGee play cornerback regularly again (he is that brittle), and I see Drayton Florence as trending towards being as bad as McKelvin as his age advances (if he’s not there already). As much as I hate Buffalo’s corners, I’m not crossing my fingers for Routt. I’m no expert on Routt, but something doesn’t add up on paper. If Buffalo lands him, I won’t rip it, but I’ll be skeptical given his bio. If they miss out on him, I won’t be disappointed whatsoever. I’d rather look elsewhere.

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by Port Royal on Feb 16, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

The only way Buffalo gets a player with multiple suitors is by paying the most and they are not likely to do that considering their track record. In this case, that might not be a bad thing.

Drayton Florence had a few suitors last year.

by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but Florence was already a Bill.

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by thefourwinds on Feb 16, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn’t matter, per PR’s point. Florence had multiple suitors. He chose Buffalo.

by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

$5-$7 million is a lot...

for a three year starter; Plus our history of signing former Raider players has not worked out well (see the Langston Walker experiment).

What are the chances we could restructure McGee’s contract instead of cutting him? That would be ideal.

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by jellybones on Feb 16, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

A thought

Perhaps they are courting Routt as a way of putting pressure on McGee to restructure? That is, they might be saying to McGee: either reduce your salary to $1 million/year or we will cut you and add a guy like Routt. I’m not at all sure they are doing that, but it’s one possibility.

by Macktruck on Feb 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

So because Mike Williams stunk we should draft Texas Longhorns like Aaron Williams? :-)

by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Touche haha

Is a healthy McGee better than Routt? McGee is obviously older and has been hurt the last few years, so the risk is there for a injury prone player. However McGee is only owed $3.2 mill and Buffalo could bring in another veteran or draft another player….We consistently played five DBs last year, and we need depth on our roster…that much is clear. McGee and another Free Agent/Rookie DB versus the $5-7 mill plus a signing bonus for Routt…Touch call

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by jellybones on Feb 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Is a healthy McGee better than Routt?

That’s really the question… and is Routt $3M better than McGee’s injury history?

by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Having someone who can be on the field is better than someone who cannot… History and age suggest that T.McGee is less and less likely to be availabe on game day.

If S.Routt signs with the Chiefs, doe than mean B.Carr comes more into play for the Bills?

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by Bogeyman on Feb 18, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not impressed.

He might be an okay pickup, but to be honest, I think people are underestimating what Terrence McGee brings to the team. He’s STILL the most consistent corner that the Bills have, and when he’s healthy, he’s our best option against No. 1s. The best Routt seems to be is the next Drayton Florence. While that level of acquisition could help the secondary, I’d rather try the draft than tie up the kind of money that seems to be being thrown around here.

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by Dyl on Feb 16, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think they’re underestimating his play, but it’s hard for him to bring anything to the team when he sits out 10 or more games a year.

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by stetzwebs on Feb 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s STILL the most consistent corner that the Bills have, and when he’s healthy, he’s our best option against No. 1s.

I really do like McGee, but I can’t get on board with this line of thinking. You’re not comparing a healthy McGee to Routt. You’re comparing McGee and his replacement (who is replacing him for MORE THAN HALF THE GAMES) with Routt.

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by WhyBillsWhy on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

^this

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by Bogeyman on Feb 18, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Routt is Florence 2.0 having the same size and build as Flo and also the same amount of penalties. Routt is better in coverage but having both players on the team in my opinion is a mistake. If the Bills do sign Routt, Florence is the first to go as the Bills don’t want to risk 2 times the amount of penalties. Additionally McGee would do better as a nickel back and easily rotate in and out with the likes of Williams and Rogers. McKelvin stays by virtue of only earning a million in 2012 and being a ST standout.

by DynamicHero22 on Feb 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

My money (very little)

Is on Routt signing with Houston or Dallas. He’s a home town boy

by Winnie33 on Feb 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Houston can barely afford Mario Williams, let alone Mario Williams, Arian Foster, Chris Myers and Stanford Routt.

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by Brian Galliford on Feb 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

AND

played for Rob Ryan. He is going to Dallas. probably only stopped off here because we have cap, and our desire provides leverage. Nothing new.

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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't pretend to know how to rate conerback play. Cornerback is similar to OL since you usually only talk about them when they screw up.

If the team see’s Rout as our top CB over Florence if he was signed, then I have no issue with a deal in that 5-7mil price range.

If the team doesn’t see him as our #1 CB heading into the season (yes, things can change in season), then I’d be hesitant to pay a CB who would likely jump between boundry and slot corner.

I’m assuming that Williams would still see time as the #2 boundry CB. If Rout is viewed as the #1 then Drayton would be a natural choice inside since he’s so aggresive.

Bottom line, if the team thinks he’s better than any CB on the roster now then make it happen. Otherwise, no thanks.

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by lonestar_ak on Feb 16, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly

I’d rather keep McGee and sign a cheaper FA and draft a CB in the first 4 rounds. I really don’t see Routt being worth the money and all he seems like at this point is a faster Florence with more penalties. Maybe, if Aaron Williams turned out to be a very very good CB this year, Routt would be a good #2

by KileyJ on Feb 16, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

What would......?

What would New England do? We are modeling our team (so Nix said long ago) after them. They won’t touch an overpriced CB that is mistake prone. We shouldn’t either. For the same money as Drayton I would be in. Other options are out there. A vet would be nice but we have to many needs still to spend too much on one guy that isn’t the answer. Pass rusher first and then a value FA at CB would be a better fit. If we are going to over pay to get a player at least make it a stud!

by billybuffalo on Feb 16, 2012 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know....

Why we are even looking at him…..

I going by last year’s stats and what is said on this board……

It seems crazy to talk two days…..

I can see bringing him in…..to cross the Ts etc.

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by podunkowego on Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

McGee....

Man, he is a player when healthy….one of my top 20 bills….

When he played his first game last year, I didn’t see it initially and went to read about the game and he got mixed reviews…..
Then I watched the game and he was destroying people, and he was all over the place…..
We haven’t had corner play like that since the last time he played…..

What a player, just one heck of a football player….by some miracle he does come back this year, we are in for a treat and our defense noticeably gets better….

Go bills!

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by podunkowego on Feb 16, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather not pick up a FA CB, too much money.

Draft a couple in the mid to late rounds. CBs are not nearly as important as Pass rushers. We have a couple good corners if we add a couple more we will have a pretty good group. But Clearly we need to address the DE position first.

With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.

by tomcs on Feb 16, 2012 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

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