Stevie Johnson Contract Talks Heating Up, Per Report
Rodney McKissic at The Buffalo News is reporting that the Buffalo Bills and the representatives for Stevie Johnson have exchanged contract proposals within the past week, and that negotiations could continue face-to-face at next week's NFL Combine in Indianapolis.
McKissic reports that C.J. LaBoy, Johnson's agent, submitted a counter-offer on Monday to a proposal that the team made more than a week ago today. The exchanged proposals are presumably the first the two sides have had since prior to the start of the 2011 regular season; the Bills tried to re-open negotiations after signing Ryan Fitzpatrick, but Johnson decided to wait until after the season.
As we mentioned earlier this week, the Bills have advantages in retaining Johnson's services - and that's without mentioning the franchise tag. Clearly, both sides would like to get a long-term deal reached, however, as the franchise tag isn't the best option for either side. It appears that progress is being made toward that end.
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"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
When does Buffalo have to declare that they are rolling 2011 cap space into 2012?
If Buffalo competes for Johnson and Williams, and attempts to sign the other free agents, they are far more probable to roll 2011 money forward.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
What's the downside (if any) to rolling over cap space?
Does it require us to reach a higher salary floor? Is the only downside that it costs the team more money to have a larger overall roster salary? I’m wondering why teams wouldn’t roll over cap space each year.
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Does it require us to reach a higher salary floor?
Yes.
I’m wondering why teams wouldn’t roll over cap space each year.
Exactly.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure
It requires a higher floor? I thought I read that it didn’t. Link to learn details?
Actually Matt your incorrect on this one. As per PFT, the sales floor remains the same even if the capis carried over.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
In addition to that, Andrew Brandt has reported that teams don't have a salary floor until 2013
For those of you who don’t know Andrew Brandt, he is a former Packers executive who reports on contract and front office details. He’s an expert on the subject.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
corrections
While we’re on the topic of corrections, the floor is 89% of the cap, not 99% as someone in the media implied during Nix’s press conference. The league as a whole must spend either 95% or 99% of the aggregate cap (I can’t recall what the final number is) but each individual team must only spend 89%.
Yeah I was corrected by Andrew Brandt. MY BAD! :-)
by MattRichWarren on Feb 17, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
All good. We all let a few slip by every once in a while.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I would think that the only reason you wouldnt,
is so that you don’t make contracts that would put you over the cap the next year.
Still, any team with passable budgeteers should have that under control.
It would seem incredible silly not to roll it. You never know what money you are going to have to spend.
14 days prior to the start of the season
So feb 28
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by christopher.j on Feb 16, 2012 12:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nix also said he is going to extend Freddie's Contract this year
so that would make me assume they will be rolling that cash over. Even if you take signing Williams out of the mix, they will be pushing cap space just to resign Stevie, Chandler, Bell and extending Freddie’s deal. Then add on another 5-8 million for rookie contracts, and its tight to sign any fa’s without the 2011 cap rollover option
Getting this done will make me unbelievably happy.
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Okay Chan, turn all of the...eh, tools...into weapons!
by killerokapi on Feb 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm just relieved...
to hear that talks are happening and proposals have been exchanged. I was beginning to think that the Bills would wait until March 12 to broach the subject and then act surprised when Stevie tested the waters on March 13.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 16, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions
C.J LaBoy – 5 years $10 million per with $5 million signing bonus
Bills – 10 years $3 milion per with monthly gift certificates to LaNovas
by telka on Feb 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
@Telka
Including gift certificates to LaNova’s is far from an insult. I would take that all day everyday.
Git-R-Done
Honestly. I would Stevie to be our guy for years to come. In my eyes he’s one of our only late round draft picks that has been hit, which teams like Patriots seem to do every year. Can’t let him get away, for reasons everyone knows- honestly, I want to lock him up so I can pick up his jersey, my Terrence McGee actually got laughed at a couple times last year : (
There's always next year ; }
Noone should be laughing at a McGee Jersey
Hes been a great player when healthy and loyal to the club. Hes been a favorite of mine for years and I would that jersey with pride, and crutches ( couldn’t resist ).
by SClemy on Feb 16, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Good
I’m glad to see they are talking. I like Stevie. Fitz n SJ have a good relationship. I don’t think he’s selfish or immature. You have to have fun out there. His mistakes are just magnified. Hope this gets done soon.
by SeanLongWVU on Feb 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Good they are talking . I still think this is not getting done till the day before fa begins.
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by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 11:47 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Show me the baby.
Wake me when its done. If the rumors are true and he’s not looking for top 10 money this is a no-brainer.
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I was giving them away
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by oompaloompa on Feb 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Glad theyre talking...
but until the ink is on the paper… Ill still be a little nervous he’ll be playing in CA next year.
Lets Go Buff a lo!
Hope
God I hope we can sign him it would show that there’s still a pulse in this organization I would at least lead me to believe that they still care about winning its at least some good news to hear about would have been better to hear a deal was actually reached but hopefully that will one soon
by diehard12 on Feb 16, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
FINALLY, some news on this front.
I stood up from my chair and gave a warrior’s scream. Coworkers sprinting towards the fire exits.
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
The biggest thing here is that they’re talking in that that indicates that the Bills want him back.
If they can’t agree immediately it doesn’t really matter. The Bills can use the franchise tag to gain time and leverage. At some point something will get done prior to the season, and likely well before then.
Get creative
Give him $ 7.5 mil per year or even slightly more and put provisions in about his behavior. If it draws a 15 yd penalty he loses “x” amount off of his yearly salary for the lifetime of the contract. If it draws a penalty from the league and no flag he doesn’t lose anything on his salary. Toss in performance incentives that bump his salary up a little bit for doing a good job. It provides a way for the bills to pay him like they want to if he doesn’t do what is expected in terms of behavior, and if he does perform both behavior and stats he gets more. WIN-WIN in my book.
by NDbuffalo on Feb 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i don’t really get the whole behavior thing. It’s not like he is a bad guy. Or purposely tries to hurt the team. He didn’t know he was going to get flagged for the shirt thing cuz he didn’t last year. It was a harmless “happy new year” that I thought was creative. I saw a guy from the Saints get fined or flagged for putting a bow on the football and giving it to his mom on christmas. Are you kidding me? That is a cool and respectful thing to do. Its not like these guys are flashing their rear ends to the crowd like Moss did or something disrespectful. Ok, maybe the Plexico thing was disrepectful, but if you shoot yourself, you deserve it, I am sorry. And I thought it was funny as hell. I was laughing for a good 5 minutes and so were a lot of my friends. He is 25, and is having fun. I personally love his swag and the attention he brings our team. At least he scores. I would rather a guy get flagged scoring a TD, then having “no guy” to score the TD. The kick off is moved so far up, 15 yards isn’t the biggest deal, unless you botch the kick like Rainer did
by csc06258 on Feb 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s the “Don’t Hurt the Team” idea. I agree that he’s not a bad guy and isn’t trying to hurt the team. Hell I want him to score TDs too, the suggestion was simply a way for both to get what they want. Stevie gets his big contract, the Bills FO gets some insurance against their concerns. He starts to hurt the team, he loses money. And yes Rayner botched the kick, but he never would have had to make the kick if there wasn’t the penalty. Really this was just an idea i was throwing out there so that both get to address their concerns in a constructive way.
It stinks, but every outlet that mentions Stevie, brings up his need to mature and propensity to cause trouble for the team on the field.
It happens to people that get noticed for reasons which are unfavorable to them.
"Son. People can see you!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 16, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've always thought and continue to think that it will eventually get done...
I’m guessing 5 years, $39M, $18M guaranteed. But then again, I probably have no idea what I’m talking about.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
Sounds fair
I think your just about right I feel like maybe somewhere in the low 40mil to High 30mil would be fair really hope they can sign him to a five year deal
by diehard12 on Feb 16, 2012 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Give him 8
that is fair and gives us room to sign some FA’s
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-Steve Tasker-
happy to see progress
i think it gets done and there will be much rejoicing.
Change is inevitable; progress is optional. - Buffalo Bills Mantra
is there any other kind?
Change is inevitable; progress is optional. - Buffalo Bills Mantra
by silverstreak3k on Feb 16, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like I should make a wildly inapropriate reply...
but that’s Joe P.’s job.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
At least they are talking
I’m just glad to hear both sides are talking especially before the combine.
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by christopher.j on Feb 16, 2012 2:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
We only.have to look back the the offseason to see how the nfl is an 11tg hour league
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by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
5 yrs $42 million
Which includes a signing bonus in the 12-15 million range should wrap it up!
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Vince Lombardi
As soon as this is done and Nike comes out with the unis I’m all in
by beezwright on Feb 16, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
when is that
Change is inevitable; progress is optional. - Buffalo Bills Mantra
by silverstreak3k on Feb 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
The league said it would accompany the draft, so I’m guessing withing a couple of weeks of the draft each team will show their new uni’s (if they make any changes).
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Fantastic news
think about that report.
1) bills reach out and offer a contract outright. laboy takes some time to review it, and about a week later he submits a counter offer. if the bills offer was one that laboy hated, would he have bothered countering it?
2) bills get laboys offer, and schedule a face-to-face meeting in indy. if they didnt like laboys counter, would they have bothered scheduling the meeting?
at the very least, it means both sides would much rather get a deal down now than face either FA / franchise tag. thats a damn good sign
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
by boomsauce on Feb 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
And so it begins. Willing to bet anything that a deal gets done within a week of the combine.
Rec btw.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
+2
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so because I would like us to get some progress going with Bell and Chandler before FA hits.
I doubt they will get both signed before then, but hopefully progress will slow them down on testing the market agressively.
"I got no problem with 7-9 coming off of 4-12 as long as I don't buy a couch there, you got to keep moving" - Mike Schoop
this will make people laugh but i have to ask….what is so important about resigning stevie johnson? no offense if the bills are going to pay a lot of money to a number 1 receiver than i want the guy who can make the big plays…..not drop the ball when the game is on the line……(remember pittsburgh in OT, and then the jets this year)….the only reason stevie had such good numbers is because honestly the bills receiving corps was not as strong the past two years…if andre read played on this team he’d have 1200 yards receivng with at least 12-15 touchdowns a year…….stevie, until i can trust you to make the big play when it needs to be made…..then i am not paying what you think you deserve
by MullyBB on Feb 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i truly believe stevie would make a great number 2 when the defense is not aimed soley on him, but honestly, i’d rather the bills go find another top receiver through the draft or FA
i truly agree to that statement. but if you want stevie to play a great year as a nr 2 spot you have to re-sign him as well… AND add an elite receiver through the FA or the draft…
by billssupporterfromeurope on Feb 16, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
and – in addition – i believe that he´s still developing and that he´s on a good way to become an elite wr in 2 or 3 years… it would really hurt letting stevie go and watching him explode with another team and making the pro bowl in the next year or the year after…
by billssupporterfromeurope on Feb 16, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
I Believe...
there is some sort of divine or super-natural plan behind Stevie’s drops against Pittsburgh and New York. Had he caught the Pittsburgh ball, the Buffalo Bills would likely not have Marcell Dareus on the roster. And since the drop against the Jets kept us at 6 wins instead of 7, we are drafting at the 10th overall spot this year. Perhaps the Bills are destined to draft someone very important at #10 in 2012.
I feel good things happening to the Bills, and I think the plan is falling into place.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 16, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I believe....
i believe as long as the bills depend on the inconsistencies of johnson….we’ll be picking in the top ten a few more times in the next few years……
Nix has already stated a desire to add a big, fast, “go up and get it” type receiver to the offense. One that very well could push Stevie to the number 2 spot, and that’s exactly what you just said would be a good thing. But, …you still have to re-sign Stevie.
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what is so important about resigning stevie johnson?
hes the best receiver this teams had since eric moulds.
his style of play fitz in perfectly (see what i did there? but seriously, perfectly) with their current quarterback.
he may be the only receiver in the league who can consistently separate from darrelle revis, who the bills have to face twice a season
he showed last year that he can be extremely productive even without a legitimate threat bookending him
hes the first bills receiver ever to post back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons (think about that one for a second)
he loves the city, loves the team. hes made mistakes but in a lot of ways hes embraced the city/fanbase and weve embraced him
hes 25 years old.
should i keep going?
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
by boomsauce on Feb 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Played hurt all season. said he understood the benching he took. Said he will not do any more celebrations. How about the fact we let him walk we have to sign two big time recievers. Then how about the history of wr fa and how letting stevie walk could make the passing game worse if the trend continues.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 4:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 4 recs
REC!
hes the first bills receiver ever to post back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons
And did it before reaching the age of 26, meaning his best years lay ahead of him.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
ok I should learn to read a whole post before replying.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 16, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a playmaker, one of the few we have. There is absolutely no reason to let him go.
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by stetzwebs on Feb 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
recd all three
boom, matt, and stetz
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sometimes, less is more.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Except when it leaves me rec-less!
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
swallow that pride
and just accept that us lazy guys are gonna stick together, i guess. lol
just kidding. you will note: I did rec it. also, so many people use their phones, and since you can’t rec from your phone for whatever reason, just saying it, is kinda the same thing.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
and since you can’t rec from your phone
ya you can – just go to full site and login. it’s not as fast but that’s why a mobile rec is worth more points
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by J2 on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
maybe if it was even possible to read the site then...
i would bother. point isn’t lost. just not sure why the extra step is necessary.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
because it’s cool – that’s what cool people do. duh
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by J2 on Feb 16, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
cool people waste a relative significant portions of their life just to rec a comment? how awesome of them. Being cool doesn’t make much sense sometimes, it would seem.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
which is why I never make sense, in case you hadn’t noticed
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by J2 on Feb 16, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
but THAT makes sense... assuming you are "cool"
which i happen to know is a bold faced lie.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
and yet, the ironic thing is...
that in MAKING SENSE, you have rendered yourself, uncool. hahaha.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
It's a passing league
So we need a receiver like Stevie who, even though he does drop big passes, makes as many big plays to balance them IMO. I have to look at the whole and not the pieces :he is a threat to D-backs and has been productive in the CHIX system (the only Bill to have back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons) despite being the primary receiver thus drawing the coverage overtop from the safeties or facing some of the best corners in the league (Revis, Flowers, Nmadi etc.)
Also, The Bils have taken the time to develop him and let him grow so why cut him loose now when he is beginning to really make progress and show his true potential and ability. Lock him up and get someone to compliment him and take the pressure off and then we can debate if his lack of production in clutch situations is a problem. As it stands, presently, he is our only wide out who I beleiving makes us more than a running offense
Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.
by christopher.j on Feb 16, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
back to back 1000…….we all know adrea would of had 4 back to back seasons but he shared the field with amazing talent on his side( james lofton, don beebe, metz, thurman, and on….)
If buffalo lets stevie walk your in a big predicament at wr. You now have david nelson as your number one. You now.have to.aggresivly persue two big time wide outs. Lets say buffalo lands neither. Now you go into draft likly to spend a first and third on wideouts. Let alone alinating most of your fan base and team for letting stevie walk.
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by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 4:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You have proven Why we need to keep Stevie
Ther
back to back 1000…….we all know adrea would of had 4 back to back seasons but he shared the field with amazing talent on his side( james lofton, don beebe, metz, thurman, and on….)
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We don’t have the weapons on offense we did when we were going to four superbowls. Our offense in 2011 consisted of a perennial backup QB, Fred and Stevie. My thought, and I’m sure a lot of other thoughts, was that without Evans, Stevie would die a slow death at receiver since he would draw the primary corner and the double team. He didn’t and he exceeded my expectations. To just let him walk because “Andre would have done that and then some” would set this team back. We need progress not regression and that starts with keeping players who excel in our system
Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.
by christopher.j on Feb 16, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moulds missed
back to back to back 1000 yard seasons by like 5 yards didn’t he?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Yes
In 1999 he had 1000 yard seasons every other year from 1998 to 2004.
Paranoids are not paranoid because they're paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves...deliberately into paranoid situations.
by christopher.j on Feb 16, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
As Ron Burgundy would say
That is gooood news!!! HIOOO
"I promise you, ... When I come back, I'm going to be like a mad dog in a meat house." -Takeo Spikes
LaCanfora reporting the sides "aren't really that close".
Quoting Stevie’s agent. Just saw it on NFLN.
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 7:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If they where close we would of heard negotiations.coming to a close. This was just exchanging offers.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 11:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
is anyone willing though to pay stevie top rate pay when he is yet to be a top rate receiver though…..i would like to keep him only for the right price……there is no way that i think the bills should pay top money for him…..now if he has truly grown up from last season, (and only the bills staff would know that) then give him a contract with a lot of incentives and not to much guareenteed…..if he wants paid, then he’ll have to produce…and produce more than 7 touchdowns….
All of this “has he grown up” stuff has got to stop. The man hasn’t caused a lick of trouble since he’s been here. Seriously, he made up some pretty amusing touchdown celebrations. That’s it! I found David Nelson’s football to girlfriend celebration much more lame and delay-of-gamey than anything Stevie’s e ever done.
I understand you want to get him at the right price only, and I understand your reasoning. I just don’t think his “character” is much of an “issue”. He seems like a really good dude, actually.
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 8:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I found David Nelson’s football to girlfriend celebration much more lame and delay-of-gamey than anything Stevie’s e ever done.
Dude. You’re just jealous.
LoL. I don’t know what to say.. my girlfriend’s brother reads this blog… :)
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
it's cool man.
My sister is an awesome chick.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that in no way means,
David Nelson’s GF isn’t hot. lol
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that was funny.
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-Steve Tasker-
by billsoferie on Feb 16, 2012 8:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it's all true.
my sis IS a cool chick… and bbb is dating her. AND DN’s girlfriend IS hot. AND, he probably IS jealous in some sort of way (career, paycheck, cheerleader GF exposure, life in general- he isn’t alone.)… and it was really really drawn out, and delay of game-ish… and Steve gets a bad rap for what? celebrating the most significant single play in the sport?
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m definitely jealous of his salary haha. I wouldn’t trade your sister for a Bills Super Bowl victory, and that’s saying something lol. It’s like living with a hilarious comedian that’s not trying to be funny.
BUT, yea I really don’t find anything particularly bad about what Johnson has done. I could see why the league would discourage the Plaxico gunshot dance, because of it’s a personal attack (I thought it was a riot). But everything he’s done is mostly in good fun. He’s already said he’s done with that stuff, because if he wants to play for Gailey, he knows he has to be. I don’t want him to change, and I don’t rally care about 15 yard penalties that are assessed on the kickoff. But I understand why Family
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Family = Gailey.
I understand why GAILEY cares.
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 16, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m definitely jealous of his salary haha.
ditto.
I wouldn’t trade your sister for a Bills Super Bowl victory, and that’s saying something lol
Yep… it says I don’t need to stab you. lol. (jk obviously)
It’s like living with a hilarious comedian that’s not trying to be funny.
LOL!!!! That is the best description is maybe the most accurate thing, I have ever heard hahaha. Not that we don’t love her for it… but that is a delicious morsel of truth.
BUT, yea I really don’t find anything particularly bad about what Johnson has done. I could see why the league would discourage the Plaxico gunshot dance, because of it’s a personal attack (I thought it was a riot). But everything he’s done is mostly in good fun.
totally agree. I think that the ref’s inconsistency made him look far worse, as well.
I don’t want him to change, and I don’t rally care about 15 yard penalties that are assessed on the kickoff. But I understand why Gailey cares
me too, but I am not him. I am a FAN, and i find that the PRIMARY reason that i like football, is that it is entertaining.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just rec'd this entire string of posts
for being awesome.
good stuff fellas
"WHEN THE WAGON BLASTER TAKES OFF dont try to get in. THE SPACESES ARE LIMITED FOR WINNING ATTITUDE GODZILLA IS COMING GET READY" - abayarde
by StroudFanClub on Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
:)
thanks SFC. It’s a family affair around here. Thus all the arguments hahahaha
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
he can be both
they aren’t mutually exclusive.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 16, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Players want guarenteed mainly due to this thing called injuries. I do not expect him to get top tier.money. Top tier 12-10 million. I am guessing stevie gets something like 8.5 a year.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 16, 2012 11:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I like my crow piping hot
Hopefully Nix is busy heating it up via a long term deal for – finally – one of the young players that Buffalo has developed.
I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.
Confused?
Why is this even a issue? Why haven’t Bill’s reached agreement already? SJ asking to much? Or are Bill’s hardballing? Its simple you want him or you don’t. Lawyers!
Don't Worry, Be Happy!
NFL deals get done at the 11th hour is probably the better reason.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 17, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
Unless they are mid season extensions (which neither side wanted in this case) most of the NFL’s big contracts are signed in the 11th hour. It’s why I’m not going to start worrying about losing Stevie until the last week before free agency starts.
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 17, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Shocked it is starting so soon
by my timetable they are 2 weeks ahead of schedule.
Good news!!!!
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.
Good news!!!!GREAT NEWS!!!!!
There, fixed it for you :-)
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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 17, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks you are right
Please base your arguments in provable facts instead of pulling stuff out of your rear. -CanadianBillsFan- This is why talk is cheap because the supply always exceeds the demand.

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