Buffalo Bills' Dave Wannstedt Seeking "Defensive Line Friendly Scheme"
by Brian Galliford on Feb 17, 2012 8:51 AM EST
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Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator Dave Wannstedt spoke at length with reporters on Thursday afternoon about the direction and philosophy of Buffalo's defense as it transitions back to a 4-3 look. The themes of the day? The front four and pressuring quarterbacks.
"For us to take a jump in the defense that we're going to run, the front four needs to make a difference," Wannstedt told Chris Brown of BuffaloBills.com prior to the press conference. "They need to make an impact. So that would be the position. Our defensive line, as a group, they need to be a major, major factor, run and pass, every week after week after week, for this defense to work."
Because of the nature of the league, wherein the Bills play the majority of their snaps out of the sub-package, Wannstedt doesn't believe there will be a steep learning curve for the defense in moving to a four-man front.
"We played last year about 65 percent of our snaps in nickel personnel where we actually had four down guys in the game with their hand on the ground," Wannstedt told reporters. "Whether we had five defensive backs or six defensive backs it really didn’t matter. The point was that if you looked at us we were doing a lot of things that there’s carryover within the 4-3 scheme and most teams do that."
Wannstedt named four players by name as guys that will be featured in the new defense, and it's nothing groundbreaking: Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams will key the defensive line, Nick Barnett will play the weak side and be on the field in passing situations, and Kelvin Sheppard will be the two-down middle linebacker. This is all information that we've assumed for months; Wannstedt seemed very high on all four players, Dareus and Barnett in particular.
Asked what positions the team needed to address, Wannstedt mentioned every positional group by name, but then focused his response on the defensive line and linebackers.
"The four down and three linebackers that can run, not the big 3-4 linebacker. We’re looking for guys that run and make plays," Wannstedt said. "When you reflect back on the defenses that I’ve been responsible for, for me the guys up front have been playmakers and we expect guys to make plays. We want it to be a defensive line friendly scheme. It’s really trying to put those guys in the best position where we can use their talent, where they can play fast and give them the opportunity to make plays."
Wannstedt also answered questions about the roles of specific players, including guys with up-in-the-air status, including Shawne Merriman and Terrence McGee. Be sure to check out the full transcript of Wannstedt's press conference here. What do you think of his philosophies and the direction he'd like to take Buffalo's defense?
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No Davis was not being bitter.....
He is not going to say he is too slow.
He is not going to insult himself, it is as simple as that.
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Wannstedt said
…three linebackers that can run, not the big 3-4 linebacker.
By Wannstedt saying “not the big 3-4 linebacker,” I think it connotes that the 4-3 linebackers that Wannstedt wants will be smaller.
Based on the context of everything that’s been said, I think we can expect that quicker and smaller go together.
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 17, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as they aren’t the safety-turned-linebackers that jauron liked to use ill be happy
by bizarro bills on Feb 17, 2012 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dick Jauron Sucks
Thanks for your comment. It reminded me that Dick Jauron sucks. Anyone not happy with CHIX needs to remember that.
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 17, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
My avatar should demonstrate my agreement with you re: Jauron.
by BuffaloRepresent on Feb 17, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
That Urlacher kid seems to working out fine…
by Ian MacPersonoid on Feb 18, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
In a 4-3
You need LBs that are fast. Big is fine, as long as they are fast. The 3 LBs need to roam sideline to sideline and cover more ground. Fast is more important than quick.
Fast is your 40 time, quick is your cone time.
"A Patriots loss is a Bills win" - TheAfghanTwighlight
by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 17, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Line and Backers
“Ag-iiile, Mob-iiile, and Hos-tiiile”: Bear Bryant
by frcorny on Feb 17, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Makes Sense
To me. Davis was telling it like it is.
Don't Worry, Be Happy!
by buffalobacker on Feb 17, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Now go get Mario Williams!
"Son. People can see you!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 17, 2012 9:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If the Bills were ever gonna break the bank in FA
Super Mario would be the perfect candidate.
This is the Bills though, they would never up that kind of cash to one player.
"A Patriots loss is a Bills win" - TheAfghanTwighlight
by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 17, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t say it won’t happen until it doesn’t happen.
"Son. People can see you!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I traveled a couple months into the future, I didn’t want to get greedy and go too far into the future, and they don’t sign him. You will be happy with the results of the draft and free agency tho.
The fans are going to be so loud they are going to hear us in the next Dimension - abayarde
by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Feb 17, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i won't happen.
; )
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
dang it.
IT won’t happen. lol. but it could. I am still optimistic. I think that it is a STRETCH to say the least, but I like you, TAT, am not giving up until he signs with someone else.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Have you seen Mario a lot?
Also, is he a leader?
What about the injuries?
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
lol – when I watched this interview I thought “so like every team in the NFL that runs a 43?”
Next up – Chan Gailey talking about how WRs catching the ball will help the offense
I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it! LET'S DO IT! - Venkman
by J2 on Feb 17, 2012 9:24 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I like this gem
“Whether we had five defensive backs or six defensive backs it really didn’t matter.
Ain’t that the truth!
"a play in which nothing happens, that yet keeps audiences glued to their seats". -Vivian Mercier - a description of Samuel Beckett's "Waiting for Godot"
According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
sounds like sideline reporting
I talked to coach gailey before the game today and he said the bills will be looking to have scored more points when the fourth quarter expires
by buffalojackson on Feb 18, 2012 2:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So where do Carrington and Troup fit in that aggressive-speed scheme? What about Dwan Edwards? Kelsay seems the best fit at DE for what Wannstedt wants to do.
Now it’s up to Buddy to find the right talent. Again. Two wasted years on the front seven.
I'll give you one wasted year...
not 2. And that one year was wasted-ish at best. Troup has been injured so he wouldn’t work in any scheme right now. You can have Carrington as an out of place pick but Williams, Dareus and Sheppard are hardly wastes.
Front Seven
Just saw that notation. So ignore Williams. Moats and Batten were late rounders and they can be easily replaced.
I see what you are saying but to use the word “waste” is a bit much.
This is a much bigger dealer than unabashed bill-lievers are willing to admit. I think 1-2 of those names will stick around for a year but probably no more. Add in Moats and Batten to this group and overall, the entire 2010 offseason appears to be a giant waste of time and that’s wildly depressing.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Feb 17, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What’s so different that the 3-4 was supposed to be the greatest thing in 2010? Now the Bills are moving away in 2012.
It’s doubtful that Troup, Carrington or Edwards would be Bills if the team stuck with the 4-3 when Nix took over as GM.
The irony is that with teams moving away from the 3-4 today that 3-4 players are likely to become more available. And 4-3 players harder to find. Just the opposite of 2010.
Very true
Remember this chain of events the next time somebody scolds you for criticizing OBD with a plea for “patience”.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Feb 17, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This!
read my tag line…
"It will be the 3-4. We can’t be changing every year." Buddy Nix, Jan 26, 2011
by Lancelot Link on Feb 17, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
important quote
You have to hold him accountable to statements like this above. When he is so adament one minute, then he does a complete 180 the next, you have to call a spade a spade- Nix’s “plan” was a failure for two years and he’s starting over. Maybe it’s the right move now, but he deserves arrows for the mess he constructed his first two years on the job.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that Port Royal has a point.
The 2010 draft is looking pretty bad right now, unless one of the defensive picks turns into a quality starter, Spiller is gaining 1400 yards a year and Marcus Easley turns out to be the answer at WR #2.
by sarasotabillsfan on Feb 17, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Arrows?
Or better yet a mental evaluation as to why he even tried to GM this franchise:) Its not the most sought after job.
Don't Worry, Be Happy!
by buffalobacker on Feb 17, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
nice
And I’ll add “nobody goes in circles like the Buffalo Bills” :)
Don't Worry, Be Happy!
by buffalobacker on Feb 17, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
'wildly depressing'
For me would be a regime that sticks to the 3-4 simply because they want to validate their previous decisions.
Accusations that you’d have to be an unabashed billever in order to see the good in this move is way off the mark. Regimes like our previous inner circle would never swithc from a tampa 2 to 46 4-3, even in the face of cant miss prospects like a Hali Nagata falling in their lap. No, poor management would be to stick to your initial ‘philosophy’,then reach for a Donte Whitner for example, all in the effort to appease a portion of the fan base to fragile to handle confident leaders – not afraid to lose ‘face’, if it will help the team.
Besides, when drafting ur looking to hit on 30% of ur picks. If 2010 does turn out to be a failure, resulting in a 10% hit rate, 2011 makes up the difference as it looks likely that 50% start (when considering our nickel back should see significant playing time).
Our franchise would be much further back if our regime didn’t have such a strong 2011 draft, nor the guts to change course on defense so soon.
by DJ O on Feb 18, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I don't always agree with you DJO
But, you are 100% correct. I applaud the Bills for having the courage to realize they are better suited for the 4-3 and make the change. Yes, the 2010 draft isn’t looking great, but, even if we stayed in the 3-4, they still don’t look great. This is the best move for the team and congrats to Nix and Chan for having the guts to say so.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.
2010 offseason
Proverbial dead horse
by buffalojackson on Feb 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He seemed to suggest Edwards and Carrington were going to play end
I can see Carrington, but not Edwards, doing that.
He also didn’t seem in favor of situational players. A bit odd considering his time in Dallas, rotating his defensive line.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
I think once he has a group of guys he’s comfortable with, that will likely change.
by telka on Feb 17, 2012 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He seemed to say to me if they want to play end they will have to prove their able to rush the passer. I am guessing he sees both as run stuffers primarily.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 17, 2012 10:07 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
New England Patriots
All the Bills are doing is recognizing that in order to make the playoffs they might want to emulate what the Giants have done against the Pats. Perry Fewell has to be intrigued by these developments…if he’s even curious.
by rexachss on Feb 17, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They are moving to the 4-3.....
Because our two best front seven players by far are Dareus and Kyle and they are both at their best playing penetrating tackle in a 4-3……
No ifs, ands or buts about that one…..
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
"My new cat just farted on my lap. Smells like Bills football." BG.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 17, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
No ifs, ands or buts about that one…
Idk…. it’s arguable that either is just as effective in a 3 man front. Though, i agree having them on the field together, helps cover up more of the line, and still having two edge rushers out there with them, means that we have a chance for increased success. If we had solid OLBs though, our 34 front seven COULD look just as nice. If we have carrington/kelsay, the aforementioned DTs, and an ineffective RDE, you could argue we are just as bad, with less guys in coverage, as we were with a three man front.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
It sounded like a non-direct, political way of saying that those guys may be backups or get cut.
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
What do you think of his philosophies and the direction he’d like to take Buffalo’s defense?
LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions
This kind of reminds me of the time when we said "we have to get quicker on the defensive Line"
Then we got run over all day long. I realize this isn’t what Dave is talking about but it still scares me to totally change things up. It seemed that in a 3-4, we were just a pass rusher or two away. Now in a 4-3, we need both two DE’s (which are not easy to fine) and linebackers. So to me it seems like we have more work now switching back to the 4-3. It also leaves Barnett out in the cold I feel a bit. He has worked in a 3-4 for a while now, and played mostly in the middle his whole career. Don’t know how he will do on the outside, but I am happy that he is just a great overall athlete.
This draft also doesn’t line up great for our transition back. This is what concerns me the most…… There are no really stand out guys at the DE position. You have Mayock now saying he wouldn’t touch Coples with a 3rd, I probably wouldn’t either. How do you go from a great year, to a horrible year? I question his effort. Also, if we stayed in the 3-4, Upshaw made great sense. He is big, can set the edge and can rush the passer. Now he doesn’t really fit a 4-3 OLB. So that leaves us with who in this draft on defense at #10? I don’t see anyone that is worth picking at 10 to help our defense (at either the DE or OLB) position. If anyone, maybe Ingrahm..but still, 10 is too high for him. We should trade down, or stay put and take the top tackle and lock that position up for the next 10 years. thoughts?
Defensive End(s)? Kelsay?
With Wannstedt saying the team needs Defensive Ends, does he mean both RDE & LDE? Does he consider Kelsay a situational player (or back-up) and plans to find a better LDE? I hope so. Don’t get me wrong, Kelsay is a very hard working player and will play any position asked of him, but he’s not even an average pass rusher. Sounds like Wannstedt wants the front 4 to be all good at rushing the passer.
this is what I kinda just wrote up top. It seems like we need “a lot more” now that we are switching back to the 4-3. Add on top of that no real players (DE’s or OLB) that fit a 4-3 in the draft, and it looks like we are going to be in trouble. If we stayed in the 3-4 and added Upshaw, that would have made more sense to me. It seemed like we just needed some OLB’s in a 3-4, and Upshaw was there for that. He really doesn’t fit in a 4-3 however. maybe I am nuts but this organization confuses me all the time and I and the fans happen to be more right then they are most of the time
If Upshaw.....
Is a great football player and a unusually gifted athlete, he can stand up at SOLB on run downs and replace Kelsay on pass downs….
There, problem solved.
We get a better pass rusher and move Kelsay to part-time while adding a super strong smasher.
Go Bills!
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
he is a good football player, but he isn’t your prototypical “fast” 4-3 OLB they’re looking for. So that will probably make them not choose him based on fit. He is your prototypical 3-4 OLB. I am not sure how good he can be in coverage. He mostly set the edge in college and rushed the passer. Our 4-3 olbs will be asked to cover in space. I do not think he is the guy for “that” job. Now, that leaves us with no OLB to take at 10th overall or any DE in my opinion.
Things change......
From now until the draft…..
At this point last year, most did not consider Dareus a viable pick at three…..
Plus, as Brian said, and I think correctly, when considering pass rushers it probably is best just to get the best pass rusher. I like that Upshaw is a football player, they say he has freakish strength (you gotta like that).
And Mathis and Freeny are short and they did OK at DE…..maybe Upshaw will excel at DE….
And besides, after we sign mario and Anthony Spencer they take a left tackle who doesn’t get hurt and we have our two solidified lines…..
Who knows at this point…..
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Since the senior bowl, some are saying Upshaw may be a better fit as a 43 DE than OLB in a 34. He is just a lil short for the position, kinda like Dwight Freeney. He still weighs like 275.
by Baggz on Feb 19, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We only have one de thats kelsay. We realistically would want like what 3 more a starter and two back ups.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 17, 2012 10:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I want two starters....
And find the forth and fith on the roster (Carrington, Kyle Moore) or a seventh round, waiver-wire)
Hopefully, there are a couple of teams switching to the 3-4……..
PodunkO - The great post ender!
by podunkowego on Feb 17, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Kelsay was my first thought too.
If Wanny is serious about his front 4, Kelsay can not be a.starter. We need DE’s, and good ones. Kelsay should be nothing more than a rotational back up of we’re going to be taken serious as.a tough D.
Lets Go Buff a lo!
by bflo on Feb 17, 2012 12:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
See
I don’t mind kelsay starting at de as long as there is a good pass rushed on the other side. Darius and Williams should be able to generate a healthy dose of pressure and push up the middle to allow kelsay to hold his own.
This requires a competent pass rusher on the other side though. Unless we cut him and pick up a fa to replace him, this is our best option. Kelsay looked very good at times last year with his hand in the ground, and that was with Darius getting double teamed next to him. They will not be able to double Williams as well.
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by billsoferie on Feb 17, 2012 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still kinda vague to me......
At first I was excited, but then he talked about his defenses of the past as if he is going to run the same defense.
That I have read here relies on two big tackles that hold everything up…..
I think the article more good than bad, and I hope our defnse is a very aggressive, meet at the QB defense and tackle anything on the way….
Not every play maybe, but the main D. Dareus and Kyle would thrive in this sort of D….
Not what I would call a LB friendly D..
PodunkO - The great post ender!
3-4 or 4-3
There is a philosphy that remains the same play smart, play fast, attack the ball and play as a unit.
.
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Vince Lombardi
Drafting history
Has any one looked back at Jimmy Johnsons draft history? When I looked I found that when me and Dave were at Dallas they never took a DE in the first found. Does that play into our next draft at all?
Only if they acquire an elite 27-year-old pass rusher in the prime of a borderline Hall of Fame career like they did with Charles Haley. Price be damned.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
by Port Royal on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
If Buffalo gets Mario Williams, then drafting guys in later rounds could work.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Only if Buffalo gets Mario Williams
The reason Dallas didn’t need to draft an end was because they acquired Charles Haley.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
If it was my team.....
And we signed a top DE int FA, another would be coming in rd. 1…..
Unless, of course, there wasn’t one with an appropriate grade and fit……
PodunkO - The great post ender!
DE
Does any one really think we are going to be bringing in Mario? I would love but I think that we are not there yet in relation to being a landing spot for big time FAs.
hmmm
Cliff Arvil in Free agency though i wish we would get Mario Williams he seems more likely to leave the Lions and want to join up with us.
Look for Colston to be the surprise Free agent WR we try to add. I hope the Brees contact continues to linger.
Draft: Melvin Ingram…Dont’a Hightower and then in 2nd round Zac Brown or 3rd Bruce Irvin.
I just hope we don’t get smaller linebackers but quicker ones makes sense especially when looking at Andre Davis
I think that I have been wrong about Ingram. I saw a little bit more on him and he does have some good speed and get off. I don’t know why he looked so slow in the videos that I saw, but he was definitely quicker in the one that I recently saw. So I am not sooo against drafting him like I was previously. As far as Bruce Irvin is concerned, I would like him in that same spot also. However with what Wannstedt said yesterday about avoiding situational players as much as you can, I don’t think that they are looking at him. To me, he is a 3rd down specialist and special teams guy right now. I just don’t see them giving him too much of a look right now.
BRUUUCEEEE Irvin
Well in the 3rd or the 4th round he would be an impact DE/LB. He can play side line to side line and has the speed, strength, pass rushing arsenal.
I’m sure they are looking at him. Wanny knows the Big East and if they are serious about upgrading our pass rush he can do it. He is athletic he use to be a WR all the way up to his JUCO days so he has awareness of coverage.
I think Bruce Irvin is more talented then Moats. Moats doesn’t win the one-one battles. He just doesn’t. 2.5 sacks in two seasons doesn’t make him a pass rushing specialist.
It just occurred to me.....
How much Nix loves big LBs……
I sure hope we are on the same page……
PodunkO - The great post ender!
Big isn't bad just has to be fast
He said he wanted faster I mean not like Sheppard is tiny he is 6-3 i believe 250. We just need speed also.
If you look and Andre Davis he isn’t a guy that can cover side-line to side-line he is much more of player that keeps and makes the play in front of him
Their conversation
Stache: I have a new secret to fix our pass rush
Scott: What is it coach
Stache: We are going to cover you guys in baby oil. You are going to slip by every time.
"This is a chance to shine some light on the city, They say it’s too cold. I’m going to bring some warmth to it." Marcell Dareus
by matthew62 on Feb 17, 2012 2:27 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Brockers with the 10th pick?
Having listened to Wannstedt’s interview, I think a possible selection at #10 could be Michael Brockers from LSU. He is scheme diverse and can play inside or outside on the D-Line. Remember too that Marcel Dareus played a great deal of DE in college. Should we select Brockers, we would add a great deal of depth and versatility to the DL, and we could then look to a speedy LB in round 2 or 3, and perhaps more LB depth later in the draft. I think such a plan would significantly fortify our front 7 and make it much better for our defensive secondary.
I wouldn’t mind him if he allowed us to move Dareus around enough to take advantage of one-on-one matchups.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
if we still ran him as an end, while Edwards/Williams are in the middle, the the double team probably still ends up on Dareus though… Really, ANY place you put Marcel, he is probably going to get the double team. What I wanna see, would be like,
Marcel, Kyle, Edwards, Carrington: in THAT order. Because it is much harder for them to double both Dareus and Kyle, when they are both together. Maybe with a TE chiping/helping, or whatever, but there just isn’t enough guys on one side, to account for double teams on both.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
If Carrington turns a corner this year, I really want to see what happens with the front 4. If he can be someone that benefits from the double teams along the line and produces a few more sacks, it will be huge.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
i agree.
I have been, and probably always will be, a fan of the kid. I think given that he was only a third, he has at very least MET his expectations, especially since they keep goofing around with him. He is a guy who I think is a SOLID strong side DE, and would excel in a 43, by comparison to the 34, even though I think his size kinda dictates he is a 43 DT. If he can shed weight, hold the point, as well as maintain some kind of speed, he is a great prospect.
"He is a man of courage who does not run away, but remains at his post and fights against the enemy."
~Socrates
by ThaRealTruth on Feb 17, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
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