Derek Hagan An Option For Buffalo Bills At Receiver
by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 8:44 AM EST
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The wide receiver position is one at which the Buffalo Bills are bracing themselves to make several big decisions in the next month or so. One player that could be more involved in those discussions is Derek Hagan.
Buffalo signed the 27-year-old journeyman receiver on November 22 after injuries ravaged the position. From Weeks 14-16, Hagan caught two passes in each week and scored his first touchdown as a Bill in a loss to Miami. Then, in the regular season finale in New England, Hagan went off as the team's de facto go-to receiver, hauling in seven passes for 89 yards. Both totals were just shy of career-bests for Hagan.
Bills head coach Chan Gailey admitted in early January that he'd been impressed by Hagan's play at the end of the season, even going so far as to say that Hagan "merits a strong look" going into 2012. Keep in mind that the statement was made prior to the team's extensive post-season personnel evaluations; things may have changed.
It is not, however, simply a matter of inking Hagan into the rotation in July. The Bills have bigger fish to fry at the position as they attempt to re-sign Stevie Johnson, and although Hagan - an impending free agent himself - isn't likely to be a hot commodity on the open market, it's not a lock at this point that he'll return. That's especially true as the Bills are looking to overhaul the position, regardless of what happens with Johnson.
Still, the 6'2" Hagan did enough in a short amount of time for Bills fans to seriously be considering him as an option next season somewhere near David Nelson on the depth chart.
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:sigh: More likely a reality.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 8:50 AM EST reply actions
Yeah what a depressing article. Replacing Johnson – the bills best WR – with a street free agent. Can’t wait to be watching all these monster 5 catch 80 yard performances from hagan at the Ralph this year!
by billsin2012 on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This article does NOT advocating “replacing Johnson” with Hagan. It merely says that Hagan should be on fans’ radar, regardless of what happens with Stevie.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously, your article doesn’t advocate the Bills replacing Johnson with Hagan straight-up, but gtiven what the real news of the week is and accepting OBD’s willingness to hand street free agents prominent roles over the years, I don’t think it’s all that confusing that many would react to your story’s headline with a worst case scenario in mind. To many (me included), OBD has the stench of a used car salesman most of the time. Pushing Hagan’s viability as an “option” during a week where the news on Johnson has been glum is bound to produce the reaction below whether it’s completely rational or not. We are dealing with a highly irrational personnel department. It’s perfectly acceptable for fans to be on edge and somewhat irrational themselves at this point.;
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by Port Royal on Feb 21, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not confused about it at all. I know precisely why people are reacting the way they are. I just don’t think they should be.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
probably are in the minority then.
I think most people would rather not have him on the team, regardless of Steve signing or not. Maybe I am wrong.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 21, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
That would surprise me. I’d imagine very few would complain if the team re-signed Hagan.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Idk.
I am not saying he sucks. I said this in my series:
As a veteran receiver in the league, Hagan stepped in as other Bills receivers (such as Roscoe, or Donald) went down due to injury. Hagan, while maybe not the fastest WR on the roster, has demonstrated some decent chemistry with Fitzpatrick, and could end up being a holdover, should the other less experienced WRs not step up and steal that roster spot away.
what i mean by my comment is: if for some reason he ISN’T on the team, then that means that Roosevelt/Aiken/Easley/New Edition(s) are better options; I suspect most fans would prefer this. Like I already said: Maybe I am wrong.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 21, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
i would but they have to beat him out first and saying that
if Hagan (6’2" 215LBS) wants to be back he will be back, OBD has only 4 WR (not including Smith) on the roster
what?
OBD has only 4 WR (not including Smith) on the roster
Clowney, Roosevelt, Aiken, Easley, Martin, Hagan, Jones, Nelson
That makes 8. Not including Steve, because Steve is not under contract.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 22, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Mario Williams hasn’t signed a contract with anyone yet!
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hey let's not go lambasting this guy quite yet
I watch those last few games and he was open very consistently. if I remember right he had a few 50 yard pass interference calls because Fitz was way short on his pass attempts. he still young and is probably a better option than donald jones. if we signed into a deal than he could end up being at least being a good 4th option
by live6453 on Feb 21, 2012 8:58 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
It’s not about lambasting the guy. He is 27 and has been labeled a journeyman per Brian’s words. It’s just a reality that he may provide serviceable production to the team where they don’t feel as much urgency to sign someone vastly better.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Hagan makes sense as competition for Donald Jones and Marcus Easley as a backup outside receiver. If OBD is projecting him for anything more, they can all just fade away for all I care. This inadequate roster ran out of gas at WR by November. Aside from retaining Johnson, Buffalo needs a youth infusion via a 4th round or better draft selection and a starting caliber outside option. Hagan is not qualified to vie for that job opening just as Jones was noit qualified for the job last year.
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by Port Royal on Feb 21, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
he is fine, for the scout team.
Otherwise, I really hope we have some better answers, by week 1.
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by ThaRealTruth on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
could people start to think about the difference between the X,Y,Z receivers when posting, Stevie (Z), Nelson, Gilreath, Smith(Y) Easley, Clowney, Hagan, Jones(Z) why isn’t Hagan qualified to compete for the job with Easley and Clowney, and whoever else they bring in, unless it is Vincent Jackosn
Probably because the only position that seems to matter at WR is the slot guy. The other two are virtually interchangeable, especially in our offense where we don’t have a deep threat guy anyway, and a QB that can’t throw deep to begin with.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
It’s really not a great that the team struggles to find true talent in the draft. Outside of Stevie in the 7th (and the Losman edition of Evans), they’ve managed to find some real marginal talent trying to catch the ball.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions
Question?
why is it that people seem to blame Buddy for our drafts b4 he got here, can you find something wrong with the 2011 draft i cannot, and as for the 2010 draft 2012 will be the year CJ becomes a threat that teams will have to account for(Saints, Sproules), Troupe now that he is healthy will be a great back up to Williams and Dareus, and Carrington will take the starting job at LE soon enough and hopefully Easley can show us he is a dominate Z receiver
Derek Hagan
To me he is not a factor at all the Bills kill me wit these garbage players that wouldnt make the average teams practice squad. If yall think Hagan is sweet yall crazy then again Bills fan except the Bare Minimum!
by Jermain on Feb 21, 2012 9:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hagan? Really?
Is it Beer thirty yet?
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 21, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ok this is probably posted because you would like some discussion, but Really? thanks you for the contribution. Mr Hagan will not be replacing S. Johnson anytime soon. We can get better personal, if we try. to many better options availiable.
But he may be replacing Marcus Easley.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
So he'll be trumpeted as the next superstar despite never playing?
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by twoeightnine on Feb 21, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
for the money Hagan would want to stay here I don't know about that, those better options have to want to play in Buffalo
he didn’t say replace Stevie with Hagan what he said is Hagan could be an option for next season, the team i want the Bills to immolate is the Saints and they usually have 8-10 guys catching the ball every game(Johnson, Easley, Nelson, Aiken, Roosevelt, Hagan, Chandler, Onobun, CJ, FJax)
I liked what I saw of him last season. While not a starter obviously he is as good addition to the depth chart. I feel he is a better player than Jones and Martin.
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Chris Kelsay is a good football player.
I feel he is a better player than Jones and Martin.
I know what you meant, but, saying he’s better than Jones and Martin, is like saying falling off a 10 story building is a better way to go than falling into a wood chipper. Both are bad, the second is just worse.
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or jumping out of a plane and not having the parachute on.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Better than jumping out ahead of the engine.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Is it? That’s a long time to think.
by tpsabres on Feb 21, 2012 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow, what's with the hate?
The man played a few games for us, was marginally productive in two and very productive in the third, and we’re hating on him…why exactly? He’s just another body to compete during camp. Who cares? Especially since the article is simply pointing out that he’s an option.
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by stetzwebs on Feb 21, 2012 10:23 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
A very weak option ooh did I say weeeakk option
by Jermain on Feb 21, 2012 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hagan just represents that the bill usually end up with the scraps that other teams don’t want and so many bills fan can’t stomach any more talk about relying on guys like hagan to have a good seasons in order for the team to be good
by billsin2012 on Feb 21, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But we aren’t relying on Hagan to have a good season, that’s my point. He’s just a guy brought in for competition. It’s not like he’s 3rd on the depth chart.
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He's not?
If Johnson leaves there’s a very good chance he’s 2nd on the depth chart after David Nelson.
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by twoeightnine on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Where did anyone from OBD indicate he would be higher than Martin, Jones, or Easley? He’s played three whole games, and in only one was he very productive. I think we’re jumping to conclusions.
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stetz
I agree with twoeightnine. OBD may not have indicated it, but as of right now I would put Hagan above Martin (good special teams, not much in the way of hands or speed), Jones (didn’t show me much this past year, there’s a chance he’s not ready), and Easley (hasn’t played a game yet, true health unknown).
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by k8 on Feb 21, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Thats your nightmare not mine
I dont think the Bills would agree with it either.
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how many top WR has the Patriots ever had
and why is it you say he isn’t any good when he had 7 catches for 89 yards against the patriots when their defence was playing at its best and Stevie was on the bench
I think it just conjures up, in many minds, another example of the Bills “less bad” approach to player evaluation. Yes, Hagan is an option…a “less bad” option than maybe Martin or Jones. Just as Fitz is “less bad” than 1/3 of the leagues’ QBs, or Kelsay is “less bad” than…well I can’t come up with that one.
People are jones-ing for some moves that will make us better. Some glimmer of hope that we’ll be markedly better not just “less bad”. Gailey espousing Derek Hagan as one who deserves a “look”, is not the kind of “news” to kindle that glimmer.
To me, it’s just that omnipresent feeling that OBD is content shopping for Salvation Army “values”.
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by fansince60 on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s true, and I, just like all Bills fans, are hoping for some interesting moves and a good draft. But the hate is what I don’t understand. Sure, it’s fueled in frustration, but it’s misplaced. He’s just a guy to add competition during training camp. They didn’t name him the #2 next to Stevie or anything.
I think, sometimes, we just complain because we haven’t complained in a while and feel it’s time.
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by stetzwebs on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well, “hate” might be too strong a word. Utter bewilderment and disappointment that Chan might consider a “strong look”(his words), might be more apt. Once again, it seems 31 other teams didn’t think he deserved such a look. What do CHIX know that no else seems to know?
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According to Beckett, Godot was a metaphor for the Buffalo Bills :-)
The fact that as a street free agent
he came in and was productive, for this team.
So yes, he merits a strong look at the 4th WR position.
What do CHIX know that no else seems to know?
Ah so your saying that the Bills should never pick up street free agents. Like Erik Pears, psshhh, if other teams didn’t value him, why should we?
not saying that at all. What I’m saying is, the Bills have WR problems. That Gailey would even contemplate Hagan as a means of lessening those problems, is disappointing. As Brian said, the Bills “have bigger fish to fry at the position”.
I want to hear that they had a successful day fishing. The big one didn’t get away. Not that they were able to chum for minnows.
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I agree man.
Its just a slow news day.
I mean, we could rank the “Top Ten Names on the BIlls” instead? haha
Hopefully soon we have a Stevie Johnson signed article, and some free agents signed articles.
But as we wait for free agency, we are gonna get articles like this haha.
So we should not bring back a player that performed reasonably well for being a late addition?
What I’m saying is, the Bills have WR problems. That Gailey would even contemplate Hagan as a means of lessening those problems, is disappointing.
Isn’t this how competition works though? You find a player that performed when called upon and bring him back to compete with other additions. If he can push Naaman Roosevelt, Ruvell Martin, Kamar Aiken or even Donald Jones off the roster is that a bad thing?
I think Stetz is on to something here.
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agreed
im with you and stetz. with as thin as our WR corps got, i see no reason to not give a chance to a guy that flashed some talent. who knows? he might surprise us this year. and if he doesnt, then like you said, he at least creates some competition. as a side note, i wouldnt be upset to see martin cut to make room for hagan.
by Shadowfox524 on Feb 21, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t wait to be watching all these monster 5 catch 80 yard performances from hagan at the Ralph this year!
To me he is not a factor at all the Bills kill me wit these garbage players that wouldnt make the average teams practice squad.
Hagan? Really? Is it Beer thirty yet?
Derek Hagan is an option at starting wide receiver as much as Michael Jasper is an option at FB
Seems hate-y to me. Do we really want Chan and Nix disregarding players that show signs of productivity? If he said he didn’t merit a look, I’d be more concerned.
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the Bills are good enough right now that
if they open the bank to Vincent Jackson and Mario Williams the Bills win the AFC East, no doubt about it, why wouldn’t you want to find guys like Chandler, Barnett, Rinehart, Urbik, Pears and Fred Jackson, everyone of them could start on most teams in the league
geez, guys
I actually kind of liked Hagan at the end of the season. I hope he never has to fill in as a true WR2 for us again, but as a depth option and special teamer I’d like to see him back and playing over Donald Jones.
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He was better than Ruvell Martin.
but he should be nothing more than a backup. He looked better than most of the other back up options. Although, that is not saying much. We still need to bring in some early-mid round talent.
Mario Williams.
Settling for tier 5 Receivers
Come on Bills fans it doesn’t make umad that Hagans is even a option be real now!
by Jermain on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
did you actually watch Hagan play?
Hagan is better than the Patriots WRs and they made it to the Superbowl
How can you say he’s better than the Pats’ receivers? The offenses are completely different, and he is in no way more talented than Welker, Gronk, or Hernandez, and I also don’t think many people would concede he’s better than Branch. Hell, I’m not convinced he’s better than Ochocinco, either.
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because i compare players that play same position, Y against Y, Z against Z, TE against TE
Welker is the best Z receiver in the league
As the go to guy in week 17 Hagan had 7 catches for 78yds for a team that he had only been with for a few weeks
Chad had 15 rec for 278yds, in the whole season
Branch started 15 and had only 51 rec for 700 yds seems like a bad season when Gronk and Hernandez were the focus of the defences
In the Super Bowl where was Chad and 3 catches from Branch is pathetic,
Hagan...
I thought Hagan showed he has talent and has a chance to make the roster this year, actually I was more impressed with him then R. Martin or Donald Jones (pre-injury).
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 21, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Why is everyone so down?
Last I checked, free agency hadn’t started yet. What do you think Saints or Chargers or Texans fans are looking at right now? No one big has been signed or resigned. Respect the process.
Why is everyone so down?
Longest playoff drought in the NFL.
Mediocre QB
Zero pass rush or players that can rush the passer from traditional spots
No depth at key positions (WR, QB, TE, DE, SLB, WLB, SS)
Head coach with odd personnel decisions
1-8 record down the stretch
A seemingly unwillingness to keep young upcoming players like S. Johnson
An owner that seems unwilling to go the extra mile (how about upgrade the stadium in some way shape or form before the league mandates it?)
A poor start to this regimes tenure (2010 draft class)
Switching schemes within the first 3 years after stating that you cannot flip flop (Buddy Nix said that)
There are probably more – but those are the easy ones
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by J2 on Feb 21, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
But that doesnt mean
that you have to be down here. You don’t have to find any negativity that you can possibly find out of a simple article on how Hagan might compete for a #4 Receiver spot. When people actively seek out negativity in places in really doesn’t need to be, thats when it gets incredibly frustrating to read here.
You don’t have to find any negativity that you can possibly find out of a simple article on how Hagan might compete for a #4 Receiver spot.
That I would agree with – however, he could easily be looked at as the #2 spot right now or if Stevie leaves the #1 spot on the WR depth chart.
isn’t that cause for concern?
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Probably
but the way I see it, that hasn’t happened yet.
And based on comments from Nix, they want to bring in some good receivers this offseason.
I get where your coming from, it just seems that people are getting angry about something that hasn’t happened yet.
however, he could easily be looked at as the #2 spot right now
No, I don’t think he can. Chan didn’t say anything about that. His production doesn’t speak to being that high on a depth chart. And we do have other players that they seem to like better (Nelson, Easley, Jones, Brad Smith, etc.). I’m not sure how anyone can look at him as the #2 right now.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
I’m not sure how anyone can look at him as the #2 right now.
Say we don’t sign Stevie and keeping the “right now” in mind.
Easley has played zero NFL snaps
Taking Nelson out of his natural slot position is stupid – he’s good and productive there
D.Jones has shown he cannot do anything as a productive WR
B. Smith is not a true WR – he’s a QB/Wild-cat/WR – he’s a fill in.
So you basically have Easley, D. Jones and Hagan as options for the top 2 WR spots as it stands right now.
How could you come to the conclusion that someone couldn’t see this as an option? I certainly can especially if an injury happens to any one of these guys because Easley and Jones haven’t come close to showing they can stay healthy.
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by J2 on Feb 21, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They’re still high on Easley, and it seems Jones as well. It’s not like he’s lit the world on fire. Jones has been more productive than he has. I think we’re jumping to conclusions.
Besides, depth charts at this point in time are stupid anyway. They’ve named WR as a need, and will bring someone in (or a few someones in), so the real depth chart and the one we have today will not look very similar.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
depth charts at this point in time are stupid anyway.
or course they are – but as it stands and my point was that Hagan could be one of our top WR’s at this point and that is cause for concern.
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by J2 on Feb 21, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
You’re completely right, I would be concerned if OBD feels he’s one of the top three WRs on our team. I just don’t see it, though.
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why would they? They’d be insane to think that – but as the current roster stands that’s the way it is
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by J2 on Feb 21, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
playoff drought try the Johnson/Flutie Curse
Trent Dilfer proved you don’t need a great QB to win the SuperBowl,
No pass rush why don’t you tell that to Dareus, Meatball, Troupe, Kelsay, Carrington and Merriman and see what they say, add Spencer or Avril and see how good the O-line is in 2012
As for depth i have to give that to you kinda, the Bills have 5 WR on there roster plus Smith, not mentioning Johnson or Hagan and two on the practice squad, TE not really used by Chan, and if Chandler doesn’t sign they still have Onobun, Brock and Smith,
At LE they have Kelsay, Carrington, Moore, Dotson, Gilbert,
At RE is where they need help they only have Merriman, Eddins, Moats,
At WLB there is Barnett, Batten
At SLB Morrison will probably be resigned, Batten and Scott plays a hybrid LB/S, not that important a position in todays game anyways
SS they have Wilson, Searcy, Scott
What do you think were Chan’s odd personnel decisions? He is Offence not Defence, blame Johnson playing OLB on the old Defencive co-ordinator
As for the 1-8 record, Wood, Williams, Jackson, McGee, Merriman, Lindell, Easley Parish, Troupe and Smith were all on the IR and Chandler, Bell and Wilson all miss multiply games
As for Stevie, if he wants more than a 6 year $50 million dollar deal then he is asking for to much
The 2010 draft was better than i think you are giving them credit for, Spiller is going to be a difference maker, I.E. Sproules, Troupe is healthy and will be a great back up to Dareus and Williams, Carrington will push Kelsay for the starting LE position this season, and Easley if he is healthy this season look out, think the Giants Cruz
Now about switching back to the 4-man front after only 2 season, do you actually think they have been a 34 defence the last two seasons, i don’t, besides why would you play anything but the 43 when you have Williams and Dareus in the middle with Troupe and Heard backing them up, Carrington and Kelsay on the left side, all that is needed on Defence is a RE and a CB, on Offence LT and #2WR
Trent Dilfer proved you don’t need a great QB to win the SuperBowl,
one guy doesn’t make a trend – it makes an anomaly
No pass rush why don’t you tell that to Dareus, Meatball, Troupe, Kelsay, Carrington and Merriman and see what they say
Well first they don’t have to tell me anything because I see it with my 2 eyes. Second I said “traditional spots” so Merriman and Kelsay only count in that regard.
What do you think were Chan’s odd personnel decisions?
Levitre and C, S.Johnson at OLB
Spiller not seeing the field at all then giving more carries to Tashard Choice for some reason
Going away from Mr. 1st down with B. smith and the wild cat at the beginning of the year
Not using Chandler in the open field at all
Not running the ball when we have a massive o-line and 2 star RBs with zero WRs because of injury
Continued reliance on Fitzpatrick
Flip flopping of offensive linemen in and out of the lineup when both can play and are healthy (ask Ron about that!)
Moving Moats to OLB, then ILB, then OLB, then…?
etc… etc…
why would you play anything but the 43 when you have Williams and Dareus in the middle with Troupe and Heard backing them up,
ask Buddy and Chan that – they did it.
Buddy also said that he didn’t like flip flopping between schemes (43,34). Yet year 3 and he’s flip flopping
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by J2 on Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go ahead and bring him back
I think Hagan is a much better option outside that Donald Jones or Brad Smith. He has the size that Buddy Nix is looking for and played well in limited time. I don’t think he should be a full-time starter, but as depth for the outside I have no problem retaining him for a WR3/4 role.
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Let him compete for the 4th WR slot. If you honestly think that management and Gailey is considering him for a starter, then I think you have a exaggerated negative view of this team.
Goodness gracious, people. Two facts:
- This article has nothing to do with replacing Stevie Johnson.
- This article has everything to do with re-signing a player that looked good in Chan Gailey’s offense, and who warrants a longer look in the summer.
Now go re-read, re-assess, and be happy. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
don’t try to bring sunshine to our rain parade!
by BuffaloFanFromCT on Feb 21, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's a non-story
I’m not sure why you posted this today. I understand a story is posted anytime there is a roster move, but that isn’t the case here. I think this is odd timing for this story. Did you just want to remind everyone that we have a guy named Hagan on the roster?
What was the point of the article?
by Slick Shifty on Feb 21, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
The point of the article was to bring Hagan’s name back into the conversation at wide receiver, because for some reason (wink), he’s fallen off the map a little bit.
My sincere apologies if something that I found mildly interesting on a slow news day wasn’t up to our usual par. Yes, it’s a non-story. I never sold it as anything more. That’s why it’s in the opinion section.
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by Brian Galliford on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Hagan merits a look on the team. He is still young, and super cheap. If he’s good then let him play, if he’s not its literally no loss. I would not be in favor of keeping him as a 4th-5th WR though. Either he’s good enough to start and make plays as a top 3 wr or he let him go, and find a younger, faster player as the 4th-5th guy, like Easley “ish”. I dont think Hagan’s good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd option in this team, but let him go out and have at it. If he performs, great.
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Feb 23, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Good depth option
Hope they being him back. I’ve always liked Hagan and he certainly looked the part of a capable option at the end of the season. He just better be 1 of 3 or 4 signings/picks though…
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by Kurupt on Feb 21, 2012 3:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He and Aiken were the only WR's that peeked my interest last year.
I’ve seen enough of Jones and Roosevelt and the others, excluding Easley of course.
The only other wild-card in this group is Brad Smith, but I don’t think they will devote his time to WR. We need a lot of body’s at camp to compete especially since we are so WR reliant in this offense.
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glad someone else noticed Aiken last year..
He almost got the nod over Jones if I remember correctly.A season of improving His blocking skills and I think He smokes Jones right off the roster.Even Stevie didn’t just jump right out of the gate and make huge strides,so this kid bears some watching to me.Hagan looked like he was worth keeping for another look,I see it just as that..Taking another look.Who knows where that goes..We can’t even be sure our QB can hit a guy with a long pass,so these guys that actually can catch a short pass look pretty good to me..
Easley has shown absolutely yet,so I’ll take a guy into training camp that can get onto the field and catch a pass at this point in time..
My Easley Prediction...
He looks outstanding in Pre-season, then is diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease 2 days before the Season Opener. His involuntary motions make it impossible for him to participate and he is once again place on IR. After the 2012 season, he is magically cured of said Parkinson’s and is regarded as a potential superstar for 2013.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 21, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I hate how ppl want to be so negative and hypothetical about things that COULD happen. Just because Stevie isn’t signed yet, doesn’t mean he wont be signed and we will stick with the Wr right now. We could sign him and Vackson or we could not sign him and sign Vackson and Bowe. Free agents hasn’t even started yet and we’re acting like sunday is the first game of the season. Right now the Saints still have yet to sign Brees, Colston, or Maechem. Wow there team will suck next year with QB: Daniel WR #1&2: Arrington&Henderson because they might not sign any of them and right thats who they would have, so they are screwed.
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by ChewyFL on Feb 21, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
derek hagan
I wouldn’t mind to have him as a option like brian and others said on here. what I iwould like to know your thoughts if the bills can’t give stevie a new contract what are your thoughts on mike wallace .
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