Buffalo Bills, Rogers Communications "Optimistic" About Toronto Series Extension
On the heels of the announcement yesterday that the Buffalo Bills' pre-season game scheduled for Toronto this season would be moved back to Orchard Park, some Toronto writers greeted the news with happiness. But in interviews released yesterday afternoon, both the Bills and Rogers Communications are optimistic a new deal will be struck.
The negativity in Canada about the deal is thick among the media. Andrew Bucholtz, Canadian Football League blogger for Yahoo! Sports' 55 Yard Line, was glad the game was being moved. He shared his thoughts with me.
"Bills in Toronto was originally seen as a stepping stone to full team there by some up here," said Bucholtz. "So the overall lack of success (which I think moving this is part of) helps forestall that. Good for the CFL, good for me. Nothing against the Bills; I'd just much rather see them stay in Buffalo than keep showing up in Toronto."
Officially, the game was moved for "scheduling conflicts." The Rogers Centre, home of the Bills in Toronto, was booked for three of the four weeks of the Bills' pre-season slate. When the Bills and the NFL couldn't guarantee that weekend could be set aside for an all-important pre-season tilt, they were forced into moving it back to Buffalo.
At least one Canadian writer is skeptical about that explanation.
"Unofficially, there will be speculation and suggestions that dumping the August game from the Rogers Centre schedule is due to a 'potential lack of interest,'" said Bill Lankhof of the QMI Agency. "Or at least a lack of interest in spending a week's grocery money to watch a bunch of guys who are mere weeks from playing in the Indoor Football League."
While he did mention that "reality lies somewhere between the two" explanations, Lankhof continues to question the series' viability at the current prices.
The future of the series was also discussed yesterday by both Buffalo Bills CEO Russ Brandon and Rogers Communications' Media President Keith Pelley. Both noted that the two sides are working on a new deal.
"We continue to have dialogue, just as we did at the Super Bowl in Indy, and we’re optimistic that an agreement could be reached," Pelley said in an interview with John Wawrow of The Associated Press. "We’re definitely interested in continuing the relationship with the Bills in Toronto."
One item of note to many uneasy Bills fans is that Rogers is not looking to add regular season games to the series at this time.
"No," Pelley said. "At this point, without getting into any details of the conversation, I think that it would be a deal that would that would certainly work for both sides. We're not looking to increase the number of games."
While tickets prices would be lower, the scope of the deal would likely remain very similar Bills owner Ralph Wilson told the AP in December. Russ Brandon also had comments about extending the deal yesterday.
"We are currently working with Rogers Communications to extend our agreement to play Bills games at Rogers Centre," said Bills CEO Russ Brandon in a statement yesterday. "Our core goal is to continue to regionalize our franchise and continue our series in Toronto which has served us so well."
If you're one of the few who had tickets to the game, Rogers Media is offering full refunds.
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I would be happy if they dont put together a deal
and i would bet the players would be happy as well.
The Bills were really able to generate some wins and some enthusiasm at home last year. I would like that home pride and winning to continue this year, going to Canada throws a wrench in the home mojo, despite finally winning onle last year.
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by billsoferie on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
OK, After 12 yrs. of inepititude lets set the bar a little higher regarding both talent and ownership. This is unacceptable for this franchise. Thanks for the memory's RW but let it go, please.
by buffalobacker on Feb 22, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
You don't attract Toronto citizens to the Bills...
by showcasing a turd in their hometown. You attract them to the Bills by showcasing a diamond in ours.
If the Bills became consistent winners, playoff regulars, and Super Bowl contenders, more Canadian fans will travel to the Ralph. We don’t need to send home games up there for a few million each year. Is that money worth handicapping the team?
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 22, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Has any of the profit from the Toronto series been invested into the team or does Wilson simply give a competitive advantage each season via playing less home games than road games for the sake of padding his back account?
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
It depends on your perspective. :-) Based on your past posts, I think I know where your opinion leans.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s more concrete than you let on. I might be persuaded to jump on board this project if the accounting books were opened up to the fan base and one could objectively see a correlation with giving up this competitive edge voluntarily and a greater financial investment in personnel. I don’t think we’ll see that.
"There's only one C.J. Spiller." -Buddy Nix
How would you determine that correlation, though?
by MattRichWarren on Feb 22, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Is that money worth handicapping the team?
Our is it worth losing one game a year to keep the Bills in Buffalo as they try to expand the region they play in?
As a past season ticket holder from “76 to 88” I can understand the frustration of fans with having a game up north. But I was under the assumption from what I read that the money made was to help with the cost of operations and for the Bills to stay competitive against the larger market teams…
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It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you got to have is faith and discipline when you're not a winner.
Vince Lombardi
But I was under the assumption from what I read that the money made was to help with the cost of operations and for the Bills to stay competitive against the larger market teams…
Right, Goose. But is that happening? This is our final of 5 years playing in Toronto. Has that 78 Million made us more competitive with larger market teams? Since we haven’t had a winning season since 2004, I’d so “no.” The best way to keep the Bills in Buffalo is for them to WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. The more often they win, the more often they are likely to make money, and the more likely they are to stay in Buffalo. It’s that simple. Losing in Toronto doesn’t help the team nearly as much as winning in Buffalo would.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 22, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If the Bills were Superbowl contenders...
Canadian fans would not hesitate to come to Buffalo to spend money and watch exciting games.
"The Amish Rifle is your god now." - Muzza34
by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
If they were a traditionally winning team like the Steelers they would draw more fans in Toronto. The lack of winning and the lack of offensive imagination when playing up there has killed what little interest they may have generated…
Losing in Toronto doesn’t help the team nearly as much as winning in Buffalo would.
That is a very good point. What would happen if OBD raised prices 10 to 15% would fans rebel? I do understand why the Bills were trying to make more money by way of a game. They still have one of the lowest priced tickets in the NFL, the low local advertising rates and lack of corporate involvement have hurt the revenue coming in. A winning playoff contender would hopefully change that….
It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you got to have is faith and discipline when you're not a winner.
Vince Lombardi
A winning playoff contender would hopefully change that….
I honestly believe it would fix everything. More fans will come from all over the place, and be willing to pay more money to see a Buffalo Bills team that was consistently a playoff contender. Even if they complained about the ticket prices, they’d pay the price to see winning football in WNY. Businesses would be more inclined to advertised because there would be 70,000-80,000 eyes in the stadium guaranteed each Sunday. And because the BIlls brand would be successful, businesses would partner with them and advertise on radio, tv, and the internet.
All the Bills’ problems could be solved by simply winning football games.
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by BuffaloOwdaTwnr on Feb 22, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
All the Bills’ problems could be solved by simply winning football games.
Sounds simply enough but dam we have been waiting for the playoffs for 12 years and have had only one winning season since then….
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It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you got to have is faith and discipline when you're not a winner.
Vince Lombardi
welcome
welcome to buffalo
OK, After 12 yrs. of inepititude lets set the bar a little higher regarding both talent and ownership. This is unacceptable for this franchise. Thanks for the memory's RW but let it go, please.
by buffalobacker on Feb 22, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
And Roger Goddell goes to bed tonight, smiling in the fact that............
………. his quest for global domination hasn’t died yet.
MUH-HOO-HAH-HAH-HAAAAAAAAA!!!
"My new cat just farted on my lap. Smells like Bills football." BG.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 22, 2012 7:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well, aren't they a sanctimonious lot of hypocritical SOB's
The negativity in Canada about the deal is thick among the media. Andrew Bucholtz, Canadian Football League blogger for Yahoo! Sports’ 55 Yard Line, was glad the game was being moved. He shared his thoughts with me.
“Bills in Toronto was originally seen as a stepping stone to full team there by some up here,” said Bucholtz. “So the overall lack of success (which I think moving this is part of) helps forestall that. Good for the CFL, good for me. Nothing against the Bills; I’d just much rather see them stay in Buffalo than keep showing up in Toronto.”
Funny how he sees the NFL – via the Bills – as an unwelcome incursion into Canada . . . I’ll bet he didn’t mind the six CFL teams that played in the US from 1993-95 — did he? {And don’t EVEN get me started on the fact that 24 of the 30 teams in the top professional league of Canada’s national sport, ice hockey, are south of the border . . .}
Furthermore, I’m gonna guess he didn’t say jack $#!% when the NBA {Raptors} and MLB {Blue Jays} arrived in town . . . no; it’s funny how it’s only when an entity from Buffalo attempts to expand it’s fanbase regionally that he’s worried about Canadian sports sovereignty. Nice to know we can count on Canadians to bash on Buffalo as much as we can our own countrymen . . .
Here’s what I’d like to see happen: the Bills start becoming a playoff team . . . the original agreement with Rogers ends . . . then, when the Bills are winning and drawing huge crowds, instead of extending the agreement, they tell Rogers – and the inhospitable Toronto sports media – to go to hell. Turnabout is fair play.
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"If You Ain't a Bill I Don't Give a Fxck Bout Ya!! Most Disrespected Team in NFL! I Always feel Disrespected! I'm All In!" -- Steve Johnson
Furthermore, I’m gonna guess he didn’t say jack $#!% when the NBA {Raptors} and MLB {Blue Jays} arrived in town . . .
Totally different. He wants a Toronto NFL team, not a rent-a-team from Buffalo.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 23, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
“He wants a Toronto NFL team, not a rent-a-team from Buffalo.”
Really?
’cause, from what he was saying,
"Bills in Toronto was originally seen as a stepping stone to full team there by some up here," said Bucholtz. "So the overall lack of success (which I think moving this is part of) helps forestall that. Good for the CFL, good for me."
. . . it sounds as though he didn’t want the NFL up there AT ALL, just CFL.
And I’ll reiterate: if Bucholtz is so upset about Canadian sports cultural sovereignty being sullied by the presence of the heathen Americans, it seems to me he oughta be MORE upset by the YEAR-ROUND presence of the Raptors and Jays — rather than having a crying jag over the Bills playing one damn game . . .
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"If You Ain't a Bill I Don't Give a Fxck Bout Ya!! Most Disrespected Team in NFL! I Always feel Disrespected! I'm All In!" -- Steve Johnson
The Bills going up to Toronto is akin to buying a ticket to see Van Halen and not being told the singer is Gary Cherone. (Great with Extreme, I will say.)
"Son. People can see you!"
by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions

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