2012 Is Andre Reed's Best Hall of Fame Shot Yet
When the 45 Pro Football Hall of Fame selectors get together later today, they will consider a list of 15 names for five spots in this year's enshrinement class. They will also hear arguments for two senior nominees, but neither of them have ties to the Buffalo Bills. Andre Reed's name is on the final list of 15 nominees, and this year is his best chance yet to finally be enshrined in Canton.
The main problem for Reed the last several years has been his direct competition at wide receiver. But Reed has overcome the hurdle of Cris Carter and Tim Brown the last two years by advancing past both receivers to the final ten. That's not to say that won't change this year, but it seems logical that the Hall voters - all of which return from a year ago - will continue to support Reed over Carter and Brown. (For the record, Carter made the Top 10 in 2008 over Reed, but has not made it since.)
"That’s the problem," Hall of Fame voter (and Reed's presenter) Mark Gaughan told WIVB this week. "That's why Andre is in his sixth year now, hopefully he is getting closer, and hopefully he'll get in. But when you have numerous good candidates at a position, the worry is that they split the vote, and kinda knock each other out."
Reed was fighting an uphill battle in 2011, and not just at wide receiver. Included on the first-year eligible list were two likely selections (and eventual enshrinees) in Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders. This time around, the only candidates new to the list in their first year of eligibility are Bill Parcells - who was not selected in his previous time as a finalist before taking the Cowboys head coaching job - and tackle Will Shields. Both are far from locks.
The five who made the semi-final cut last year, but failed to make the final five, were: Reed, Dermontti Dawson, Cortez Kennedy, Curtis Martin, and Willie Roaf. If the voters hold to last year's selections, this will likely make up a large portion of the 2012 Hall class. But if both Shields and Parcells can make their way ahead of that group, or there is a sentimental shift in the voting room, there could still be some long-time finalists left out in the cold. Nobody expected Bills owner Ralph Wilson to be selected in 2009, for instance, but a sentimental shift in the voting room allowed him to be enshrined that year.
Other returning finalists Jerome Bettis, Brown (who out-ranks Reed in every receiving category), Carter, Chris Doleman, and Charles Haley also present strong cases, and could leap over last year's Top 10 on close votes.
"I think his chances are getting better, and I am guardedly optimistic," said Gaughan of Reed. "You want me to put a number on it? I would say they have improved to the fifty-fifty range."
To his credit, Reed is saying all the right things this time around.
"I just sit back and let the chips fall where they may, man," Reed told WIVB . "I'm not gonna go jump off a bridge or do something crazy if it doesn't happen. I'd be disappointed, but you're only disappointed because of the way it went - you're not disappointed because you have no control over what they do."
The Hall of Fame Committee consists of one media representative from each pro football city, with two from New York City. An additional member is a representative of the Pro Football Writers of America (of which Gaughan is the sitting President), and there are 11 at-large delegates.
The 2012 Hall of Fame induction class will be announced on the NFL Network at 5:30PM today.
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by norcaliangelsfan on Feb 4, 2012 2:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really need to stop cropping it in the story editor and just upload the pic of only Andre.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 4, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Best photo ever
With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III
by Gpluehri on Feb 4, 2012 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let's go Andre!
Reed was always my favorite Bill when I was growing up, the guy was unbelievable to watch. Obviously as a Bills fan and WNY native I’m rooting for the guy to get in the HOF, but he absolutely deserves it. All of the other super stars from the 90’s team are in, and I think Reed deserves it just as much or (in the case of Kelly v. Reed, my opinion) more. Bruce and Thurman were automatic based on what they did. With WR’s having such a hard time cracking the HOF I know it’s more difficult, especially with Carter and Brown having better stats overall. The way Andre played was brilliant though and he’s one of the toughest the league’s seen. Here’s to Mr. Andre Reed, come on selection committee, do the right thing!
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Shouldn't the title read 2012 is ...
Anywho, hopefully he gets in!
by Buffalo Jim on Feb 4, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he just cut and pasted from last year.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
It should. Not sure if it was me or Brian. Oh well.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 4, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Come on baby.
Let him in! My favorite player when I was growing up. He deserves it.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 5:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't get NFL Network
Someone post it here when you know. This has got to be the year !
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
Tim Brown
just tweeted that no receivers made the cut this year:
“Raider nation!! Don’t bother to watch tonight they passed on me again!! In fact, no wrs made it again. Gotta get some of y’all in there!!”
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I feel like if he had inside info on no WRs we'd have heard it somewhere else
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Good point
Fingers still crossed
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
He may just be bitter that he didn’t make the top ten cut.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And now...
We sit through another hour of pre-packaged BS…haha. Is it sad that I have nothing better to do with my Saturday evening?
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Right lol
I just really want him to get in.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just seems right
Kelly/Thomas/Reed – I don’t need to tell any of you of course…but the trio needs to be in
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Hopefully they're done before Sabres
Then again I don’t have MSG either
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
Well he made the top ten so far.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Andre in the final 10
Cliffhanger…now we have to wait. Tim Brown is out for what it’s worth…
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Come on Andre.....!
Only other WR is Chris Carter….Tim Brown is out so he has a shot!
by Painfully a Lifetime Bills Fan on Feb 4, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions
For anyone without NFLN, I believe it’s streaming on NFL.com
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 5:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He didn't make the five finalists
Unbelievable. Brown was right, no WRs. Ugh.
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Right? I was worried that one or both of the other WRs would edge Andre out..
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 6:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah....
but the talk was that the league didn’t want to put more than one at any position into the hall at one time..
Guess they blew it though with 2 each OL and DL…
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
I figured the media whore Chris Carter would’ve edged Andre out.
Guess not.
By the way, every time Dumb and Dumber (Mike and Mike) talk with him and call him Ci’ – Ci’, it makes me want to punch them in the face. WTF? Can’t you call him Chris?
My wife named my little girl Siamese Ci’ Ci’. Hahahhaha.
Dumb also calls Shefter “Shefty.” Is he a 50 year old child?
That’s why I can’t wait to leave the house and listen to NFL radio on my way to work.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 4, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
So, that has something to do with HoF voting? I don’t get it.
by Dr. Brackish Okun on Feb 5, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
Never heard of anyone being this anti-Mike and Mike. Not really sure what your problem with them is.
This may make no sense but
How important is Gaughan in the process? I dont read him as we moved to Rochester years ago. I was always so confident given Larry Felsers reputation amongst his peers that he’d make it happen.
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
How important is he? Well, you might be able to judge that by seeing where the 11 at-large votes are from.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
True but it seems like the other cities/members might need some convincing as well. I remember hearing Felser talk about it long before Kelly et al, and it sounded like some serious heated debate that needs to be herded behind closed doors.
It was Cookie's turn to lead the "easiest exercise" during the Monday practice after a game-- he said-- "we're going to do deep breathing--everybody inhale--dehale "---As told by Jack Kemp at my high school sports banquet circa 1966.
Mark is the President of the Pro Football Writers of America. They probably respect him a little.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 4, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
what crap!!!
makes me even more disgusted with the entire process…
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
PFT makes a good point
What used to be great numbers for WRs are just kind of pedestrian now. My guess is that WRs will need to be known as guys who redefined the position in some way in order to get inducted. Why couldn’t that standard have been applied when Michael “I Patronize Crack Whores” Irvin was up for consideration?
I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.
that is not....
a “good point”… these elections in to the hall are supposed to be about what players accomplished over their careers, at least 5 years ago!!! Not comparing them to today standards, or we should start a decommission from the hall vote, to start kicking folks out that have stupid stats compared to today….
Favre isn’t eligible for 4 more years… let’s make room for him and get a couple other QBs that don’t have as impressive stats out, OK???
Let’s start a list of those in the hall, that are not as “worthy” as Farve???
Not pivking on you in particular Ron, and you know that I hope, but PFTs comment is more than ridiculous….
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
I agree. They should be judged based on their accomplishments in the context of the era in which they made those accomplishments.
They got they right with Ralph though, besides voting against the last CBA he hasn’t been a memorable owner in any way for almost 2 decades. He got in because of chiefly for what he did back in the 60’s.
Ron Paul 2012
by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He loaned Al Davis money to save the Raiders and was a major player in the AFL NFL merger.
Ralph is a legend.
Folks need to remember that.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 4, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
He was the brain behind the AFL’s TV contract which helped drive the merger. Ralph is very deserving.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 4, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I was arguing, that he is deserving.. as is Mr. Reed.
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by BuffaloBlueBlood on Feb 4, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whether it’s fair or not, it seems like it may indeed be what is happening to the WRs. The glut has been stacking up for years and figures to grow as time goes on. What happens when guys who are only now becoming eligible (whose numbers dwarf those of the guys currently waiting)? What chance will the guys currently waiting have then?
For the record, i don’t think much of the system for choosing inductees.
I wasn't sure I was going to like the white helmets but seeing them in the practice footage, I've got to say that I love the look.
Cortez Kennedy????
Over Andre Reed?
What BS….Cortez was good, Reed was Great!
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Andre Reed made the HOF already in 1991 in all of our hearts.
Most NFL fans my age concur.
I was sitting here today watching this crap with Patsfriend, and he was pissed off too.
Haters gonna hate. And LOTS of media pencil necks were either in gradeschool when Andre was dominating the league. The older media voters just hate the Bills because we consistantly knocked their teams out of the playoffs. Year after year. They won’t let it go.
Screw em. Andre Reed is and has been a Hall of Famer. Period.
He knows it, and so does everybody else.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 4, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions
tough break
but the guys who got in were very good.
It’s hard to claim that the voters hate the Bills when Kelly, Thurman, Bruce, and Marv are in the hall. That’s a lot of guys from any one team already.
Cortez Kennedy?
He was better at DT than Andre at WR during his generation?
Really?
NO!
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by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 4, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously buddy. Everybody hated us for going to 4 bowls and knocking out the chumps on the way. They haven’t forgot it.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 4, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's just BS
That Andre doesn
t make it while a 3 year bust like Cortez Kennedy who eventually found his feet does.
There is no doubt Andre Reed should be in the HOF, i’m so digusted with this process where Cortez Kennedy makes it, but Andre doesn’t.
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by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 5, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
Noticing a trend…
It seems they tend to favor players with tons of Pro Bowl selections. Someone needs to remind the voters that the Pro Bowl is a joke.
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by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 4, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions
god
as a jet fan, i don’t get how the hell reed isn’t in the hall. your right it’s bs. i felt this way when martin didn’t make it last year. the year’s going to come, don’t worry
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Your're right
we may like different teams, but greatness is easy to identify.
Curtis Martin belongs in the HOF as well as Reed. I just can’t see how Cortez Kennedy makes the HOF but Andre Reed doesn’t?
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by The Buffalo Kid on Feb 4, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
that stunned me as well. Kennedy ahead of Carter, Brown, Reed or Martin? Makes no sense to me at all.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 4, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Martin was awesome!
He certainly deserves the HOF.
Reminds me of Fred.
"My new cat just farted on my lap. Smells like Bills football." BG.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 4, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sarge
off topic here. My wife is asking me how much you have to paid for Super Bowl tickets? What’s the price of the more expensive and the more cheaper? Just a curiosity. I really want someday go to your country with my wife to watch a Bills game, way better if that game is the SB!
by Fernando brazil on Feb 5, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
Fernando.......
I think the cheapest tickets this year were $2300 each. And that’s for nosebleeds.
Whoa!
Better plan: Fly to Buffalo. Get awesome seats on the 40 yard line for $150 on stubhub.
Enjoy the awesomeness of tailgaiting and the crowd in the stadium.
After the game, take wifey up to Niagra Falls Cananda (honeymoon capital of the world), and take in the sights for 3 or 4 days.
Win-win.
"My new cat just farted on my lap. Smells like Bills football." BG.
by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 5, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
thanks Sarge
my wife liked the idea. I need to plan that better for next few years.
by Fernando brazil on Feb 5, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Let everybody know when you are coming.
I’m sure some folks will want to meet you and maybe give you some better tips about your time here.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
for sure
i will want to know you too, thanks for the hospitality
by Fernando brazil on Feb 5, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
it's going to get harder and harder for andre
look at the guys who are at the top of their class in today’s game. It’s mostly QBs, pass rushers, and a ton of WRs. Those are the best players today. And Andre Reed is going to be, fairly or unfairly, compared to Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward, and Reggie Wayne while they’re active – and, god forbid, when they’re retired as well. Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss are there, too.
Cris carter and tim brown are only the beginning of a steady stream of HOF-viable wide receivers. The current logjam is only the tip of the logjam iceberg.
It's a shame
that Reed is not in the HOF yet. His all time stats still rank really high, especially in a pass happy league that we are in now. He is 10th all time in Receptions, 12th all time in Receiving Yards, and tied for 34th all time in TD’s with Thurman Thomas. At the time that he retired, i believe he ranked in the top 5 in both REC and Yards. Well, maybe next year or the year after.
Are we drafting Dino's now?
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by Billsfanstuckinthesouth on Feb 4, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
He has no shot
for 2013. However, I saw on twitter that in 2014, there are “only” 2 people that have a great shot of getting in.
What i find most annoying is this 5 rule. Why do 5 need to get in if 5 aren’t worthy? Or why do 5 need to get in when in that year, there are 8 worthy? It’s dumb.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.
Why do 5 need to get in if 5 aren’t worthy?
Out of 7 finalists, 5 are worthy. Three modern era and 2 past era candidates need to make it every year.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 5, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
That's my point
In 2014, there are “only” 2 worthy names, so, others will get in that “shouldn’t” get in. That means that a guy that is overlooked like Reed might finally get his due. This has happened a few times where there weren’t enough true worthy candidates, but, they had to have the 5 in and a guy or 2 gets in that doesn’t truly deserve it. Look at the this breakdown: specifically in 2014:
2013
Newly eligible: Larry Allen, Morten Andersen, Priest Holmes, Steve McNair, Jonathan Ogden, Warren Sapp, Michael Strahan, Bryant Young
It’s a crowded field of candidates in 2013, and the best bet is probably Strahan, who owns the single-season sack record and finished his career on top with a Super Bowl victory in his final game. Strahan likely gets in ahead of his fellow defensive linemen Sapp and Young.
On the offensive line, both Allen and Ogden are worthy candidates, with Allen a little more likely to be inducted in his first year of eligibility. Both Allen and Ogden are 11-time Pro Bowlers, and those are the kinds of credentials offensive linemen need to get into the Hall, but Allen probably gets in before Ogden.
Holmes put up great rushing numbers but is probably a long shot considering that more qualified running backs in Bettis and Martin were voted down.
Andersen is a tough case. Only one pure kicker, Jan Stenerud, is in the Hall of Fame, and although Andersen certainly has a strong case as the NFL’s all-time leading scorer, no kicker can ever be viewed as a lock for the Hall. It’s worth noting that one of the biggest annual Hall of Fame arguments revolves around punter Ray Guy, who hasn’t been inducted but frequently makes the list of finalists.
McNair is an even tougher case. The circumstances of his death shouldn’t play any part in the discussion of whether he had a Hall of Fame career, but it could affect how some voters think about him. Based purely on what he did on the field, McNair is a borderline case, a three-time Pro Bowler and one-time league MVP who led his team to one Super Bowl.
2014
Newly eligible: Tony Dungy, Marvin Harrison
If Dungy doesn’t return to coaching, 2014 is the year he’ll start to get consideration, and he has an excellent case: He won a Super Bowl with the Indianapolis Colts and took over a perennial doormat Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise and led them to the playoffs four times in his six seasons.
Harrison was one of Dungy’s best players with the Colts and will probably get into the Hall, having led the league in catches twice and receiving yards twice, although the Hall of Fame voters showed by voting down Cris Carter and Tim Brown that they’re not always swayed by big receiving numbers.
The 2014 class doesn’t have many strong first-year candidates, which is good news for players who have been bypassed in previous years. This will be the year that some of the players passed over in the past (like Carter and Brown) finally make it.
2015
Newly eligible: Isaac Bruce, Edgerrin James, Walter Jones, Ty Law, Kevin Mawae, Orlando Pace, Junior Seau, Kurt Warner
Looking back on Warner’s career, the whole thing just seems impossible – he may never even have gotten a chance if Trent Green hadn’t suffered a knee injury during the 1999 preseason, both the Rams and Giants gave up on him, and even the Cardinals thought he’d be nothing more than a backup to Matt Leinart. But considering that he won a Super Bowl and played in two more, won two league MVP awards, and was the best quarterback in football from 1999 through 2001 and among the best from 2007 through 2009, he belongs in the Hall.
Seau also belongs; he was one of the best linebackers in football during his prime, and his longevity was incredible: Seau was the oldest non-kicker in the NFL in his final season.
Jones and Pace were the two best offensive tackles of their generation and are both worthy, although coming up against each other in 2015, they might split the vote among selection committee members who disagree about which one was the best at his position. I’d give Pace the nod if I could only pick one.
Law was one of the best defensive backs of his era and always stepped up at the most important times: Peyton Manning is already on record having offered to present Law for Hall of Fame induction, based largely on how many times Law picked Manning off in big games.
Mawae was an eight-time Pro Bowl center who started 238 games over 16 seasons for the Seahawks, Jets and Titans. But considering how tough it’s been for an even better center — Dermontti Dawson — to get voted into the Hall of Fame, Mawae is a long shot.
Bruce is third all-time in receiving yards, behind only Jerry Rice and Terrell Owens, but that may not be enough to get him in the Hall. Racking up big receiving numbers doesn’t seem to impress the selection committee.
James probably won’t get in, but he’s at least worth considering as a four-time Pro Bowler who twice led the league in rushing.
2016
Newly eligible: Brett Favre, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens
If Favre, Moss and Owens are all done in the NFL (and they might not be — Favre and Moss could still change their minds, and Owens claims his torn ACL will heal sufficiently that he can play this season) they’ll all come up for Hall of Fame consideration in 2016.
Favre is a lock: His last season was a mess, but he deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest football players of all time.
Moss and Owens are tough cases. The debate about Moss’s Hall of Fame merits has already started, and there will be a similar debate about Owens. Both guys did some incredible things on the field, but both also wore out their welcomes on multiple teams and were ultimately considered more trouble than they were worth. It wouldn’t be surprising if the Hall of Fame selection committee puts them both in Canton the first year they’re eligible, but it also wouldn’t be surprising if neither one of them gets in.
If nothing else, these three would certainly give us an interesting trio of induction speeches. If Favre, Moss and Owens are all on the stage together in Canton in 2016, we advise you to get your popcorn ready.
I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.
Trite
I’m not a fan of the Hall of Fame whatsoever. I find it arbitrary and completely trite. In fact, I hate the Hall of Fame in all sports and the boring debates they conjure up.
Reed was the second best receiver of his generation in my opinion. It’s an arbitrary opinion that can never be proven (just like the Hall of fame), but considering how high that puts Reed in my esteem, it’s laughable he’s not in the Hall yet. I assume he’ll get in; I just don’t care if he does. It won’t change how great a player he was one way or the other.
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Agreed, but here's the 800 lb gorilla.
It won’t change how great a player he was one way or the other.
When Andre came along, he was first really electric receiver we had since probably Jerry Butler and Andre was a much tougher runner. To me, the ONLY reason he is not in is we lost SB 25 to the Giants. Andre had a few key drops that game over the middle and is on record as saying “I’ve never been hit so hard.” If Andre makes those catches yet we still lose, he’s probably still not in, but if we win that game, I think he’s in.
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