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MY OFFSEASON WISHLIST

CUT LIST

Dwan Edwards Cap savings of $4,175,000

Spencer Johnson Cap savings of 3,500,000

Shawne Merriman Cap savings of 5,250,000 <---- only because of scheme fit if willing to restructure even better

for those wondering McGee does have the highest cap hit at 6.5 mill cutting him only saves 2.1 mill and not worth cutting IMO

PROJECTED CAP FIGURE

$98.8 million minus cuts -$12,925,000 = $85,875,000

$34,125,000 under the cap


Here are the players i would like buffalo to target in no particular order and by position

Wide Receiver

RESIGN Stevie Johnson 7 years 49 million 20m Bonus money 7m cap hit

Total cap hit 7m

Tight End

RESIGN Scott Chandler 5 years 12.5 million 3m Bonus money 2.5m cap hit

Total cap hit 2.5m

Offensive Tackles

RESIGN Demetrius Bell 5 years 20 million 8m Bonus money 4m cap hit

Total cap hit 4m

Guards

RESIGN Kraig Urbik 4 years 12M. Cap Hit: 3M

RESIGN Chad Rhinehart 3 years 6M. Cap Hit: 2M

Total cap hit 5m

Defensive End

Sign Mario Williams 7 years 112 million 50m bonus money back loaded salary gets most guaranteed in years 1-4

Total cap hit

year 1 6m

year 2 8m

year 3 and 4 17m

year 5, 6, 7 21.3m

TOTAL FA CAP 26m

Mock Draft

Round 1

Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M

Has the ability and the arm strength to be a franchise QB with Fitzpatrick's contract allowing him to sit and learn

Round 2

Stephen Gilmore CB South Carolina

Tall fast needs to fix some mental mistakes but has loads of talent

Round 3

Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech

Georgia Tech didnt throw the ball much but when they did he was open can stretch the field and go over the middle

Round 4a

Brandon Lindsey DE Pitt

The statch will welcome this pick with open arms needs to work on technique can be neutralized with out a proper counter move

4b

D'anton Lynn CB Penn ST

Nix loves tall corners Lynn has the height and speed to be the starting nickle back and eventually start across Williams

Round 5a

Darius Fleming OLB Norte Dame

252 pounds of SAM

5b

Josh Chichester

i have been clamoring for this pick for a long time a converted wide receiver 6'8 4.6 speed SLEEPER ALERT

Round 6

Adewale Ojomo DE Miami

purely a depth pick would play LE strong against the run

Round 7

Nathan Stupar OLB Penn ST

WLB good coverage skills can rush when needed

Just another great fan opinion shared on the pages of BuffaloRumblings.com.

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Pretty good

Definitely like the cap work

by doctork44 on Feb 9, 2012 5:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You had me until Tannehill

Would prefer to see one of the pass rushers, a WR, or David Decosta.

by MarinoTheBill on Feb 9, 2012 6:03 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

ditto.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 9, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Like all but RD 1

While I like him Taneyhlll is not a 1st rounder
Still need a DE or OT at that spot who can start
We don’t need another developmental 1st round pick

by freddyjj on Feb 9, 2012 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting thoughts

Ralph is on record saying the Bills will sign a significant FA WR (in addition to re-signing Stevie Johnson, although he didn’t outright commit to that but it’s still most likely and preferable). I’m thinking he meant Dwayne Bowe or Vincent Jackson, or at least Robert Meachem. I also doubt the Bills sign Mario Williams; it’s not their style to get into a bidding war over external FAs. I think they’ll sign an outside starting WR FA and probably also an outside starting CB FA, too.

As far as the draft goes, here is my wish list:

Round 1: DE Quinton Coples
Round 2: QB Nick Foles
Round 3: SLB Shea McClellin
Round 4: WR Ryan Broyles
Round 4: OT Matt McCants
Round 5: CB Emanuel Davis
Round 5: TE Michael Egnew
Round 6: C Garth Gerhart
*Round 6: LDE Tyrone Crawford
Round 7: WLB Sammy Brown

  • - Compensatory Pick (for Poz)

by wpod on Feb 9, 2012 7:18 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Love wpod's draft

I just hope Coples will be available at 10. Also I would take Nate Potter of Boise St. over McCants in the 4th

"Get your krispy Cream Dougnut. And your Root Beer. This Show is going to bring the House down in all the traspasers" - Abayarde

by HeHateMe91 on Feb 9, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

oops this was supposed to be a reply to wpod, my bad

"Get your krispy Cream Dougnut. And your Root Beer. This Show is going to bring the House down in all the traspasers" - Abayarde

by HeHateMe91 on Feb 9, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i have to say that would be a very interesting offseason. i like all the cuts/resigns (although i would think mcgee could get the axe as well), and i really like those first 3 rounds. well done

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 9, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

I don't understand the Mario contact......

How much does Mario put in his pocket in year one?
And what do the bills do with the cap towards the end of his contact?

Because that team doesn’t look like a superbowl team for 2012, 2013 to me…..

I think part of the problem is that we didn’t use enough cap money the last two years.
If they did, our cap this year would be the same with a couple of your free agents already signed….
The other part is that you have too much resource towards the QB position. The Bills chances for 2012 or 2013 would look better if the Bills got a wr or DE with that big pick IHMO.

Your waivers were interesting…..at first I thought no way, then I saw their cap hit.
I think the Bills really screwed Spencer this last year. I think there is little doubt he would have played much better at his position, DT this past year…. I had him penciled in at the 3rd DT spot in my head for the coming year…..
And we don’t know how Merriman is coming along, but if he’s on course I am sure Buddy wants to see him this training camp. Let’s not forget, if he ever got healthy, he is better than Mario or anybody really…..

PodunkO - The great post ender!

by podunkowego on Feb 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, by the way........

Nice, cohesive thinking though. I think that all maock drafts at this point should include FA signings and show some realistic cap sense.
It was a fun read because you were able to do this.

PodunkO - The great post ender!

by podunkowego on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I worked the Mario contract

To be bonus money upfront and salary backloaded in the event of cutting him it doesnt have dead money count towards us

We have about 8 million in dead money this year

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Too answer the first question

Bout 11 million

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah,

I don’t like this draft at all. And they aren’t going to cut all those guys either. They aren’t going to draft a QB in a make-or-break year. This team needs starters. They know this is their make-or-break year. This year, they show improvement, or there is a change, again. The one thing this franchise needs, more then anything, is continuity. We need to have the same coaches for more then 3 years at a time. We need to have the same system in place. Teams do have bad years. Sometimes, they call for housecleaning, sometimes they don’t. But, with so much at stake this year, they need starters.

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 9, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

You lost me at Tannenhill in the 1st

that would be our dumbest move yet

Ay Ay Ay Ayyyyy

by BuffaloBillsBigestFan on Feb 9, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

I thought I was the only one who didn’t feel the love for Tannenhill. I don’t see what others see in him. I see a sub-par QB who gets frazzled easily and can’t hold leads. Not first round QB, or even third round QB worthy, IMO

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 9, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Dwan Edwards and Spencer Johnson

I think we need to keep one and cut the other. We need the depth at tackle and both are experienced, heady veterans that can play tackle in a 4-3. Chix evaluates talent much better than I, so I’ll let them decide which one we keep and which one goes.

by Buffalo Bird on Feb 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

Not really a point in cutting McGee this season.

His cap hit may be 6.3M, but 4.2 of that would stay on the cap (because of bonuses) even after we`d cut him. Personally I wouldn’t do it unless I`d absolutely need the cap space.

I`d also cut Flo before McGee.

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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 10, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Imo these are the first two cuts

With heard and troop as cheaper options there is no reason to keep them

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

keep edwards, imo

i dont hear much about johnson, but ive heard people describe edwards as a “reliable veteran” multiple times.

by Shadowfox524 on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i would keep spencer over edwards.

edwards is 34 DE. we don’t need one of those anymore. we are running a 43 now. spencer and edwards both are 43 dts. spencer is younger and cheaper, and we will incur a cap hit for his release regardless, where as i think Dwan was signed to a straight salary, no bonus, and therefore can just be cut. McGee is in this category as well. He will cost 6 million to keep, nothing to cut.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 9, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

What if

He excels at DT? Sometimes, a move excites a vet. If Edwards feels like he wants a challenge, like Meatball did, then it could be fun for him.

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

uh, how many DTs do you expect us to carry on the roster?

Williams, Dareus, Troup, Johnson, Edwards, Carrington, Gilbert, Heard, Dotson- ALL of these guys are the size of 43 DTs… and I left out 6’6" 272 lb Moore- i mean, barely ANY of these guys are actually conceivable for 43 DEs. So, how many DTs do we carry? All 9 or 10 of them? No chance.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Carrington will be the strong side DE in our 43. He’s got anchor ability being that he’s a 34 DE and he’s got some pass rush skills too – expect him to drop 15 pounds and be good in that role.

Gilbert/Dotson have zero chance – that leaves Williams, Dareus, Troup, Johnson/Edwards as locks with Edwards possibly getting the axe

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by J2 on Feb 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Moore? Heard? Gilbert was JUST signed. Why bother, if we are just going to cut him right away anyway?

I hate that we had Carrington bulk up, only to shed weight. Yet another example of poor personnel decisions to me. But then, I have been pretty consistently against us running a 43. Carrington’s best spot in a 43 would be the strong DE though, I agree. Far better than LOLB.

Not that I disagree with you. I just think that we stocked up on Defensive Lineman, only to have to go through and cut a bunch of defensive lineman.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

and I did say "barely any" not NONE.

so i expect that they will try some of these guys at DE. Ultimately, I fully expect us to build our 43 in the mold of the Bengals defense from this past season.

ABAYARDE IS NOSTRADAMUS JUST WATCH WE WILL NOT YIEALD TO NOBODY YOUR SOUL WE WILL TAKE

by ThaRealTruth on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

other options

bowe/v.jackson/early doucett/robert mathis/clif avril/ jemicheal finley/ reggie wayne at least one de and one wr I like bowe and mathis
draft prospects i like couples/upshaw/floyd/ jeffery/kellen moore/kalil/ martin/ broyles/perry
I like upshaw and broyles and moore
not tannenhill rd 1

the warrior

by Buffalo Warrior on Feb 9, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

Mathis is too tiny for our defense

I like the idea of vjax but he is looking for 8m+ cap hit i do like anthony gonzalez he wouldnt cost so much

With the first pick in the 2012 draft the Indianapolis Colts select Robert Griffen III

by Gpluehri on Feb 9, 2012 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You lost me at giving Mario Williams QB money. If that is what it takes to sign him I hope OBD passes.

.

When the job is finished no one remembers how long it took, just how well it was performed.

by Buffalo for Eternity on Feb 9, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

The one thing I don’t get on this site (about cash) is how easily we spend someone else’s cash without any consideration of the fallouts of said spent cash. If Stevie wants top 10 WR cash, he should walk. He is not a top 10 WR. Vincent Jackson (SD) won’t be franchised and will be out there. Guys who want more then they are worth always in the end, end up splitting the locker room. I read that Wes Welker wants top 3 money. Is he worth it? At his age? I’d hate to be NE on that call.

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 9, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I fail to see how letting Stevie walk, the one WR who has chemistry with Fitz, is a good move. They’d have to pay the same money for Jackson. He has some off-field issues and it’s not a guarantee they land him. If anything, he should be brought in to play with Stevie.

And you don’t think Jackson wants more than he’s worth? There’s a huge number of reasons why he and SD will be parting ways. Money and worth are a couple of large factors.

"Son. People can see you!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 9, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If he wants

top 10 money, he simply isn’t worth it. He isn’t a top 10 WR. You can easily name top level WR’s that are game breakers. Stevie is a good player. The best WR we have. But I am sorry, that doesn’t mean he is a top tier level top receiver. If he wants top 20 cash, fine.

I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory, then slowly fade away in the antiquities of time.

by suteck on Feb 9, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't like it

Our biggest need is pass rush and you wait until the 4th round and we pick someone who needs some work! Can’t see this happening at all

by Winnie33 on Feb 9, 2012 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

did u miss the part where they sign mario williams in free agency? pass rush was a huge priority in this post

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If the team signs Mario Williams then they solve their pass-rush problems. I don’t care what it’d cost to get him, they need to get him. If they’re all about winning but on a specific budget, they’ll continue to be a very specific type of team: a team void of championship ability.

"Son. People can see you!"

by TheAfghanTwilight on Feb 9, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

If they’re all about winning but on a specific budget, they’ll continue to be a very specific type of team: a team void of championship ability.

i hate that mentality. the “the bills will stink so long as they are so cheap!” mentality. its not true at all. the patriots, 49ers, falcons, and bengals are among the lowest payrolls in the league. the bills are right near the middle, and are close to teams like the chargers, saints, eagles, ravens, texans, and packers.

spending a lot of money does not equate to winning. the great teams almost all got to where they are by good drafting, good quarterback play, and good coaching. you cant buy championships in the NFL.

Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.

by boomsauce on Feb 9, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Exhibit A

2011 Philadelphia Eagles

by kfisk214 on Feb 9, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Like it except

I’d like to see us get Donta Hightower in the first. This will be my 5th or so time posting this but he could play SLB on 1st and 2nd down and then on 3rd down he can be a pass rushing DE go in for Carrington/Edwards.

With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Buffalo Bills select Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama.

by tomcs on Feb 9, 2012 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

I think that you short changes Chandler by A LOT.

The market for good TE`s is going up drastically, as evident by the Titans re-signing a blocking TE for over 4M. Chandler this year will easily fetch 5+ on the open market, which is why I think that if we want to keep him around we might as well tag him seeing as this year`s tag number for TE`s is 5.5M

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by CanadianBillsFan on Feb 10, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Because the NFL is a copy-cat league

Look at the success Belichick has had in NE with Gronk and Hernandez. Teams are going to try to imitate that and that is going to drive the cost of paying a decent TE up. So you’re right.

by wpod on Feb 11, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Bizzaro world

Bills draft Tannenhill with the tenth pick, but use him as a WR to start the year; 6 foot 4 he is the big tall reciever Nix said he wanted.

by NHBillzFan on Feb 11, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

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