2012 NFL Draft: Buddy Nix Talks Up Depth Of DE Class
by Brian Galliford on Mar 1, 2012 2:30 PM EST
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Last week, BuffaloBills.com ran some quotes from Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix - made at the 2012 NFL Combine in Indianapolis - that made it sound an awful lot like the team was leaning toward not taking a pass rusher with their No. 10 overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.
In an interview with The Howard Simon Show on WGR 550 earlier this morning, Nix re-iterated his stance on the defensive end class.
"Pass rusher, or defensive end for us, is probably - you get a little nervous with the tenth pick, but in the mid rounds, it's probably as deep as I've seen it," Nix said Thursday. "From the second round on, there will be some guys that can come in and help you quick."
Simon asked Nix specifically about taking a pass rusher with that first-round pick, and what might prevent him from doing so.
"There's just some things that you over-analyze, probably," Nix explained. "You worry about height, you worry about arm length and that kind of thing - and bottom line, you've got to make yourself come back to production. If he's always done it, there's a good chance he'll do it again."
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Obviously I might be reading to much into this, but
If he’s always done it, there’s a good chance he’ll do it again.
Doesn’t sound good for a one-year wonder like Mercilus
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by HardBeingABillsFan on Mar 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions
Agreed, although Easley was kind of a 1-yr-wonder at UCONN. He does look as if he could be good, if he can get on and stay on the field this year.
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by thefourwinds on Mar 2, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
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Not necessarily. If Mercilus is there in the second he could be the pick. But it ain’t happening at 10. Nor should it.
Free Agency
Buddy also says usually they sit back and let the huge contract guys get signed then pick up who pops up ie) nick Barnett. But right after he said that, he mentioned being there early for free agency.
Obviously there’s not as many de’s this year outside cliff and Mario but damn if we landed either or someone close, we would be set and can draft a guy in third on to learn. I really feel Dave Wanny wants four proven solid guys up front, and nix don’t wanna reach at ten. Again I atleast expect a big run at the top two de prospects in free agency. "if he’s a difference maker day one… " on free agency
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by sketchydave on Mar 1, 2012 2:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Best chance is to go hard at cliff when the.williams sweepstakes start.
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by matthew62 on Mar 1, 2012 2:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’ll buy that for a dollar!
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 1, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Flashback!!!!
to some good ole days!!!
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
I would love to see the Bills sign Abraham for 2 years while the draft and develop young DEs.
by WhatGoesAround on Mar 1, 2012 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
can´t imagine...
that the lions will let avril go… he´s a young, talented player. to me it´s more likely that they will franchise him if another solution can´t be settled until FA starts…
by billssupporterfromeurope on Mar 2, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
All he is saying is that the Bills aren't going to automatically take a DE at #10
As I read him, he is not saying that they won’t take a DE in the first round. He’s saying that they are going to look hard at the choices and make sure they are really worthy of the pick. He also seems to be indicating that the key factor will be whether the player has a long history of rushing the passer effectively in college. So what else is new?
It's all about value
Buddy is all about value with draft picks…ex) CJ….I highly doubt he will draft a guy solely based on his position if there is a guy who he think is a better value. Don’t be suprised if buddy picks someone from ANY of the needs that Brian outlined in his previous articles.
a top 10 pick...
Is somebody who can make an immediate impact on your team from day 1 and make your team better irregardless of “positional need.” you MUST go BPA all the way otherwise you run the risk of locking on to a specific position of need and end up reaching for a guy. What happens is you pass up on the guy whose value warrants the pick all b/c you were locked on “positional need” rather than value. That’s why we drafted spiller, even though we had lynch and fred.
Here’s who I think matches the value at #10: WR Michael Floyd; DB Dre Kirkpatrick; RB Trent Richardson; *DE/OLB Melvin Ingram (?). That’s about it. Now, if DT Neil Brockers falls to us I would run to the podium with that pick b/c he is just that good. It doesn’t matter that we have Kyle Williams and Marcel Dareus. You can never have enough quality depth on the d line. That’s what makes the world champion Giants so good. Their d line stays fresh all game b/c they’re so deep. I wouldn’t be surprised if DT D. Poe is the pick either. The interior of your d line is just as important as the edge cause qb’s hate interior pressure. They can step up to an edge rush but if that interior collapses they have to reset and scramble. Not every nfl QB is Vick. I feel if we can get lucky enough to get Brockers or Poe at #10 then grab a pure edge rusher in Mercilus or Curry at #41 then our d just became dominant.
by youngchamp on Mar 2, 2012 2:38 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
OT, WR or CB at #10
I can see Nix drafting one of the three positions at #10. I just hope it’s not on a CB (or any part of the secondary) as the Bills have shown over the years that they do not resign their 1st round CB’s after their rookie contract (mainly because they’re too expensive to resign).
I would rather see a LT at #10. If the Bills can get a good LT, then they can open up the deep passing game.
Not sure what Winfield or Clements has to do with who Buddy Nix will sign.
by Pistol on Mar 1, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i believe he’s referencing the guy who actually pays the contract, not the one’s who write them.
by Slick Shifty on Mar 1, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What do Winfield & Clements have in common…they were both not resigned after their rookie contract. Your 1st round draft picks are suppose to be impact players that you keep, not let go after their rookie contract. The Bills past history shows that they don’t resign their 1st round CB’s (or even RB’s for that matter), so it’s basically a waste of a pick (in my opinion).
History does show that.
GMs and coaches come and go, but the owner remains the same. I love Ralph but….
Don’t forget Fat Pat, Spikes, Fletcher… etc.
We have had a lot of great players that we let go.
Some of them that left were failures by the Bills front office (maybe cause we sucked, and still suck), some of them just got overpaid by their new team.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 1, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
WR or OT
Assuming we resign Bell, why would we draft a tackle? I know depth along the OL is crucial but we need play makers. We have serviceable tackle in Bell (I know he’s injured all the time). We need to fill holes in the roster, not fill holes that aren’t there or let guys go to create holes and then fill them. We need a complimentary receiver to Stevie. Floyd at 10.
Yup
Maybe...
They don’t plan to resign Bell because of his injury problems and use some of the $$ they save on him to get a FA wide receiver. Then, they can draft a OT in the first round and p/u DE / pass rushers from the depth in the middle rounds
I’m all for either a WR or a OT. Both are a need on the team. If you don’t think OT is a need, then why did Gailey have Fitz throw very quick passes all season long?
…and the strength of Fitz’ game as well.
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by thefourwinds on Mar 2, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Depth, or lack thereof, was an issue last year when they took Aaron Williams.
If DE is deep then waiting and taking a more scarce position early seems like a reasonable play.
Which makes you wonder, who might be the target at #10 (or below in a trade down) if a pass rusher is taken? OT? And what DEs might be targeted in the round 2-4 area?
I wonder that too, because there aren't a lot of names at #10 that I like right now.
After Claiborne I’m not real keen on the next couple of CB’s. Same thing with OT after Kalil.
I’m guessing it will be WR unless someone falls or we can trade down. If they like Tannehill then I wouldn’t be opposed to him at #10 since it’s not so expensive for him to sit and learn for a year, or two if needed.
As for DE I like Branch, Curry, Mercilus or Perry in the second. I’m sure a couple of them will be gone by then, but I think a couple will still be available.
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tough to gauge..easier after free agency and pro days
i mean we just have our meager sites we can reference but the ability for picks to move around is quite large this year.
I’ve seen Perry going in the 1st i have heard him going in the 2nd same with Mercilus and Branch.
OT isn’t that deep a position.
I could see Floyd and wouldn’t be upset with that
I def don’t want Kirkpatrick…or Jenkins with their issues though they are talented.
He said the same thing at the Combine. Keeps leading me towards them going OT. Maybe that guy from Stanford.
That would be good
We have all been saying for YEARS that we need a high draft pick LT. Now that we that chance no wants to do it because we have been getting decent play from our current LT.
Wouldn’t be my ideal pick but it would work for me.
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but he is only 300lbs
I don’t think he is a “nix” type LT. Hairston, Marcus McNeil 320+
Mario Williams.
i’m sure he can add on some weight. I think he is a def great insurance policy for us at LT if D. Bell does go down with another injury.
While Hairston is probably better to be a RT and back up that spot.
Def will have to watch his pro day. See if he weights in more than 312.
totally agree
I would be fine drafting him, and that would be nice to finally have a good, set OL. Hopefully he does add some weight.
Mario Williams.
My exact thoughts too. Safe smart pic
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by sketchydave on Mar 1, 2012 8:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Johnathan Martin…. I’d prefer him over Reiff…. I don’t think you can take Decastro out of it either…. Here’s my thought… What if he really likes Tannehill? So he’s saying that there’s more depth later on so that he can convince everyone that he can make this pick now?
Personally I had qb in the equation but I deleted that premise for atleast the first two rounds… I thought a few things, year three of regime, a qb that high drafted will cause impatience of fans of Fitz is off one game. Most importantly nix and Gailey need immediate impact this year to survive. Hence why I believe that wr and pass rushers will be free agent holes to fill.
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by sketchydave on Mar 1, 2012 9:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If this is the case, we should almost consider trading back into the 2nd using our 3rd and one of our 4ths.
Get a good non-DE prospect in the 1st.
Get two good DE prospects in the 2nd.
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totally agree
I would like to see us trade down to the late first and grab Brock Osweiler. Then in the 2nd draft Vinny Curry and Whitney Mercilus, or branch, jones, really any of those guys.
Mario Williams.
Maybe a WR to compliment Stevie?
If I had to guess any other position other then DE at # 10 then WR makes some sense.
Fitzy needs more targets!
If they can have the duo of Hairston and Bell back (afterall Fitzy was one of least sacked QB’s in the NFL last year) then they will treat #10 pick like Spiller at #9 and draft a Malcolm Floyd or maybe a falling Blackmon if we’re lucky.
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I agree with you. He wants to draft a “playmaker.”
An OT is not a playmaker (even though I wish we would take one).
I can seriously see a WR with our first pick.
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 1, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
But that tackle keeps the ball in Fitz, hands longer than three step drop
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by sketchydave on Mar 1, 2012 8:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
OT is not a playmaker (even though I wish we would take one).
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by SERGEANT MAJOR THOR on Mar 1, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I had us taking Jonathan Martin in one of my recent posts, not because I think that’s the best move for us, but because I think there are 3 solid options in the top ten and I believe that’s what Buddy will do. I actually prefer Martin over Reiff and I would say he’s pretty equal with Kalil even. I would rather us take Michael Floyd but I would be content with Martin. Everything depends on how they go about FA and who they land.
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Agreed
I think this is the way they are leaning.. It seems to me that Martin may be the best value for the space we are at.. The only other player I think would be equal is Floyd.. I would be really happy with picking Floyd but I would be content on picking up Martin.. This is of course assuming that any of the higher rated players don’t fall to ten..if I had to wager a guess.. I think we adress old and reciever in Fa and the grab Lt and then d ends in the draft..
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by Stabby Mcshank on Mar 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i agree as well
Reiff is more of a RT anyways now that his true height and reach have been discovered.
This is one thing I really like about GM Buddy Nix.
If he’s always done it, there’s a good chance he’ll do it again.
This should always be the number one factor in choosing a college prospect. Some my disagree with me and thats fine, but at the end of the day production trumps measurables.
The score dictated they pass
by norcaliangelsfan on Mar 1, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions
Some my disagree with me and thats fine, but at the end of the day production trumps measurables.
Couldn’t agree more, that’s why I wouldn’t mind seeing Upshaw in a Bills uniform.
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i wouldnt confuse production with skill set though. its incredibly common for a guy to be ultra productive in college and then suck in the pros. the man i always point to in illustrating this is antonio coleman, because thats an easy example for us bills fans.
wayyyy more guys are productive in college than there are guys who have what it takes to be good pros. a scouts job is to figure out whose skill set projects well into the NFL, which is not always tied directly to college production.
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
by boomsauce on Mar 1, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
my point is that productions just another piece to the bigger puzzle.
if production was such a large factor in these prospects, then kellen moore and case keenum would be first rounders while stephen hill and michael brockers would be day 3 picks.
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
I want them to look hard at Kellen Moore. Might be a steal in round 2 or 3.
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Mar 2, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
norcali, I agree with you. However, didn’t Nix draft Marcus Easley on 1-year’s worth of production at UCONN, IIRC?
Of course, that was in the 4th round, and here we’re talking about the 10th overall pick.
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Actually, I interpret his latest comments to be him leaning in a particular direction.
Given this specific quote:
“There’s just some things that you over-analyze, probably,” Nix explained. “You worry about height, you worry about arm length and that kind of thing – and bottom line, you’ve got to make yourself come back to production. If he’s always done it, there’s a good chance he’ll do it again.”
I think he’s projecting that if he’s there, he might very well take DE Melvin Ingram.
I say that because of the height and arm length parts; those were two very specific criticisms he’d made concerning Ingram before. If he’s saying maybe he was over-analyzing before and that you have to factor in production and adding that’s over more than just one year…that points directly to Melvin Ingram. In which case I couldn’t be happier. If the Bills start the 2012 draft by taking DE Melvin Ingram I’ll be psyched.
His 1st comments
He is very strong in stating how he feels about the 2nd to mid-rounds though.
I see Jake Bequette fitting the mold and size and production that Nix is talking about.
I think we go LT in the 1st since the class is not deep. That or Impact Wide-Out.
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I agree.Nix is obviously talking about Ingram.The"you’ve got to make yourself come back to production"makes it seem like he was down on Ingram’s measurables,BUT,had to remind himself of his production.As of this point,we can speculate all we want,but,with Buddy,who knows who we’ll take @ 10.I’d like Floyd,then,Curry,but,it is totally possible we take M.Ingram.Buddy might not even know who he’s going with until we’re on the clock.Lol.B.T.W,GREAT SITE!
I am guessing Ingram goes before Coples and before we pick at 10, just a hunch
This could be awful in that I don’t want to touch Coples, I’d rather have Perry
yeah
I guess i figure if he was really intent on a defensive end why would he say that the mid-round and 2nd round on is the key place to grab one?
That is the only question. Thank goodness Nix does look at production which pretty much makes Couples not someone we have to worry about.
Perry i would welcome i liked that he was able to add weight and still be able to keep his athletic prowess.
Kamerion Wimbley
He played for the raiders….he is looking like he may get released from the team since they are still $20 million over the cap.
He is 6 foot 4 255 and 28 years old. He had 7 sacks last year.
So there are still players hitting the market you never know the Bills thank goodness this regime seems to always have their ear to the ground. So when something happens they are on top of it.
Possibilities
Riley Rieff (T) – Iowa
Jonathan Martin (T) – Stanford
Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) – Alabama
Michael Floyd (WR) – Notre Dame
Cordy Glenn (OT) – Georgia
Second Round DE's
Andre Branch
Vinny Curry
Ronnell Lewis
by Pablo Escobar on Mar 1, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
ronnell lewis is 6’2 and 245ish.
you sure you want him at defensive end?
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
yeah you are right boomsauce i bet he meant SAM linebacker and not defensive end at least i hope so.
I’m just curious who is going to be available where. DE in general there is so much variety when it comes to where these guys are going to fall.
well ya obviously defensive ends will be taken at all levels of the draft, so im not sure what ur getting at there. the good thing for the bills is that i think this is a very deep DE and LB class, two positions they desperately need help at.
Its fun to think quarterback, but i think the odds of nix taking one in the first are close to 0%.
what i’m getting at basically is a guy like Branch…or Curry they could go in the 1st round then again they could slip into the 2nd.
Same goes for the majority of the DEs. Like merciless.
So it is tough to gauge their actual value against one another.
Mainly i’ve seen Perry very high and also not till mid of 2nd round.
So there are not many clear cut 1st round top 10 talents.
Which is probably why the Bills will be focusing else where.
Which seems unusual for a draft class.
Don't like
I don’t know if I really like this.
We are so desperately in need for a DE……….
They have always followed their big board – guess DE’s are not up there
Because i REALLY like Nick Perry (DE) – USC
yea idk after last years draft i certainly trust them more. The 1st draft was shaky. They def did a great job locking it down last year.
I am hoping they score in the middle round with either adding. Keenan Robinson, Jake Bequette, Bruce Irvin, Shea McClellin, Tyrone Crawford.
McClellin can flat play ball.. I would be really happy to add him.. But with him doing well in Indy he is prolly gone in the third
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by Stabby Mcshank on Mar 1, 2012 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just can't shake it
but something tells me we’re going to do the same thing we’ve done in past years with the LT situation, not get someone until rounds 4 or 5, preach how he was a steal and was supposed to go higher on many boards and he ends up sitting the bench except for a few plays a game for “whatever reason”.
Yep
I’d quess we take a WR, since RW isn’t happy with current recievers.
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by buffalobacker on Mar 1, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Picture of a Gamecock on the Rumblings article, love it :)
I’m clearly a biased party but I’m hoping we take my boy Ingram, the dude straight up wrecked shop at Carolina, ask Spiller and Hairston :)
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by uscBillsGamecock on Mar 1, 2012 7:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If Nick Perry is there when we pick we should get him!
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by BuffaloBillsBigestFan on Mar 1, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions
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by billsoferie on Mar 1, 2012 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely
That’s exactly how I see the Bills’ first round winding up this year. I see them trading down and drafting RDE Nick Perry in the first round. Then I see them investing the #41 pick in development QB Brock Osweiler, then the pick they added by trading down to take either TE Dwayne Allen or TE Coby Fleener (whoever is available, in that order). Then I see them drafting LDE Tyrone Crawford to complete their DE upgrade and move on with their draft (i.e., CB; OT; OLB; etc.)
Face it Bills fans...
When the pick comes in, some will love it, and most will be disappointed , until the season begins and we get to see how things unfold…
Believe me…. Last year my 3 top rated players were AJ Green, Peterson, and Dareus, in that order… While I know now, Dareus was a good pick for us, I was pissed we didn’t take Green…
But what do I know…. I once ran through the streets naked, and cheering the choice of Perry Tuttle (streaking was the “in” thing in those days :-)….
WOW…. made me realize, I’m 53, and while I’m not gonna list all my transgressions, I have been pissed at our pick, more often than not, and wrong when I’m happy….
Hopin’ I’m really, really, pissed off this year!!!
Optimistic??? Of course I am!! I'm a Bills fan, and as of right now, we are undefeated on the regular season!!!
Things are truly looking up!!!
by Cinga on Mar 1, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I understand but
everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don’t think most people were disappointed last year with Dareus! We didn’t need Green last year. We had so much depth at receiver. I would have been mad if we would have picked him..
… made me realize, I’m 53 …
Wow. I thought you were older than me. Now I feel even older.
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by Buffalo for Eternity on Mar 1, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
about this time last year
maybe before. I thought the Bills would take Dareus, and was ecstatic when we did.
Mario Williams.
Hmmm
Sounds like BPA to me.
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Yep!
Tannehill here we come! If he’s available of course. Some are claiming that he is ‘rising’ up draft boards. Kudos for calling that DJ. Amazing how little these mock drafters know. You called that about 3 months ago.
So assuming Tannehill is gone by the time we pick, who do you like? I am leaning toward Floyd or a trade down. There are just so many 2nd round guys I like. Glenn, Curry, Mercilus at the top of it. Having an extra pick there may be more useful than Floyd at 10. Problem is I don’t know who we’d take mid first if we did trade down. Kirtpatrick? Osweiler? Coples? Whats ur thought?
I wouldn't call Tannehill BPA
That would be a situation of reaching to fill a need. Maybe QB’s are given more inherent value than other positions, but if you are talking strictly BPA, then that probably limits Buffalo to:
Dre Kirkpatrick
Jonathan Martin
Michael Floyd
With these as borderline options:
Riley Reiff
David DeCastro
Cordy Glenn
All of those players, while not necessarily the most valuable positions, are clearly the best options at their positions and the most talented players on the board when Buffalo would pick.
Tannehill might be the third best QB, but I’m not sure if he is valuable enough to warrant #10 when you’re picking BPA.
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I lean towards Kirkpatrick
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
Amen DJ
That’s exactly who I see also. I think Brockers if he fell could be a possibility also for depth and Kyle’s eventual replacement. Plus, he’s been working out with Kyle and considers him to be his mentor. But, if he’s gone – which I think he will be – then Kirkpatrick to me is the BPA in a position of need, especially since we missed out on Routt.
As far as WR is concerned, I think we resign Stevie over the weekend, sign Colston while everybody goes hard after VJackson, and try to sign Avril also. Then in the draft we can get Kirkpatrick #10, Curry or Mercilus #41
Didn't have much time for my last response
I think it’s going to come down to BPA for Nix. I really like what Cordy Glenn brings to the game in terms of his size, ability, and athleticism. Unfortunately, Buffalo only “might” need a LT, and I don’t think Glenn can play LT.
I’m not sold on Floyd as a bonafide #1 receiver. He’s good, but for me, if I’m taking a WR in the top 16 picks, he needs to be Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzpatrick, or someone like that. I don’t think Floyd is close to any of those guys. The top 16 WR thing is a study I did: over the past 10 years, picks 17-32 have produced far more stars and productive WR’s than picks 1-16, and picks 1-16 have far more busts.
Curry and Mercilus are huge reaches at 10. So is Osweiler, but part of my own personal draft rules state that if you’re going to reach, only do it for a QB. I wouldn’t touch Coples – too risky with his attitude.
So, my list of who I think is going to be available, and how I’d pick them:
1.) Tannehill
2.) Kirkpatrick
3.) Osweiler (mayber) or the BPA
Re-starting the official Buffalo "Draft a quarterback in the First Round in 2012" campaign.
If you drafted pass rushers based only....
On grades……
The odds are you would never draft a pass rusher….,
QBs and Pass rusher are in such high demand, they usually go higher than they should…..
And I am defining a pass rusher as someone who can pass rush, not someone who can only pass rush.
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Don't Sleep On...
Don’t sleep on Jared Crick out of Nebraska.
Crick was an absolute monster for Nebraska before being injured this season.
Some have him going in the 2nd round, some in the 3rd.
Curry/Mercillus in the 2nd Round (Perry will go in Rd. 1) and Crick in the 3rd could be one way the Bills solve their need for a pass-rusher and talent at DE.
Also, Billy Winn from Boise St. might still be available in the 4th Round and would be good value there.
With Nix emphasizing again that he likes the depth of the draft at DE and questioning the pass-rushers at the top of this class again, I get the impression that he feels there will be better value in going for another position at # 10 and picking up pass rushers in Rounds 2-4. I also give particular weight to his saying that there are pass rushers who should be available in these middle rounds that aren’t well-known names. I don’t know if there are any small-school guys that we should be looking at, but Crick and Winn certainly aren’t names everyone is talking about at this point even though they have records of being consistently productive (when not injured) and winning.
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by LifetimeBillsFan on Mar 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST reply actions
The More I Listen To Nix...
The more I listen to Nix, the more I am beginning to believe that the Bills will not go for a pass rusher at # 10.
I think that the next couple of days will better clarify what the Bills are likely to do, but some of the better pass rushers being or about to be “tagged” by their clubs and, with things shaping up (especially with Brees in NO) where it is likely that some free agent WRs who might have been “tagged” being more likely to hit the market now, I can now see the Bills making their “big” play in free agency for a speed WR—someone like Robert Meacham from NO. That, along with re-signing or “tagging” Stevie, would remove WR from their “pressing” needs list.
While I can see Nix making a play for A.Spencer in free agency to help fill the need for a pass rusher, Spencer may end up being too expensive in free agency given the demand and reduced supply at the top of the DE class. However, I could see the Bills possibly signing a guy like Mark Anderson as a “mid-range” FA to compete with Kelsay, Carrington, Merriman (who Gailey has said they aren’t counting on) and the rookie(s0 that Nix brings in through the draft.
If they do that, the Bills would be free to play the draft for value at # 10. If Claiborne drops (and there’s a chance he might, given the needs of the teams ahead of the Bills), he would be superb value at #10, even though a lot of Bills fans would groan at the Bills taking a CB that high. Similarly, if they like Reiff (they may or may not) and he is there, they could also get good value and fill a position where an upgrade could be helpful for a long time.
Jonathan Martin, coming from a pro-style offense, could very easily be the pick for the Bills at # 10 in this situation. In fact, it might come down to whether they like Martin’s quick feet, long arms and high-quality experience in a pro-style offense more than they like Reiff’s strength, more physical style and experience in a program that has consistently produced quality NFL offensive linemen.
A Claiborne or even Kirkpatrick (although I do think the Bills will be wary of his recent brush with the law) could step into the Bills’ lineup almost immediately, make plays, and help improve the defense. If the Bills take Martin (who I prefer as a pass protector) or Reiff (who I think is probably the better run blocker), they will probably have to live with Hairston at LT for about half a season—which could be a little difficult—but would be able to expand their offense once the rookie is ready to step into the starting lineup and will have filled one of the toughest positions to fill in the NFL for the next 10 years.
I can easily see Nix thinking that either of these options would be better than reaching for a pass rusher at # 10 who might not end up being as good or that much better than the pass rushers that would be available in Round 2 over the long haul. The way it looks, it is very possible that all of the rookie pass rushers in this year’s draft may take to develop and that some who will go in Rounds 2-4 will end up having more impact once they do develop than those who are likely to go ahead of them in the 1st Round.
The key to all of this, though, is what will happen over the next few days and what Nix is able to accomplish in free agency. They could do worse, however, than taking Martin or Reiff at # 10.
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by LifetimeBillsFan on Mar 3, 2012 1:58 AM EST reply actions
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