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Buffalo Bills vs. Atlanta Falcons - Open Game Thread

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FINAL SCORE
Game Preview :: The Falcoholic

Update [2007-8-17 23:55:30 by Brian G]: The Bills gave up a late touchdown to Chris Redman and the Falcons to drop a 13-10 decision in their pre-season home opener at Ralph Wilson Stadium. I was able to withstand screaming children and plenty of drunk, bored fans to get some good analysis; I'll have a full recap of the game up in the morning. I wanted to personally thank nickfeely8 and the rest of you who showed up in the open thread this evening (especially to those of you who are new members - welcome to the site, we're very glad you've joined us!) for keeping the conversation going. It was great to come home to a nice long thread with plenty of updates and interaction. Great job Nick, and great job Bills fans!

Welcome to the official Buffalo Rumblings open game thread for the Bills/Falcons pre-season game. Here's the deal: I know for a fact that there are people out there who are "lurkers", i.e. they read this site but never comment. Well, tonight's the perfect opportunity to throw your hat in the ring - go ahead and create a free account to join in the discussion! I'll be at the Ralph for the game, but nickfeely8, a veteran here at Rumblings, will be leading the discussions - and we're looking for as much Bills talk as possible. So grab a beer (if you're of age - stick with pop otherwise) and let's get talking.

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Looking forward to this.
I really am.  I have a long day ahead of me of doing real-life errands, so that means I can't wait to crack open a can at 7 and watc....er...listen, I mean, to the game.

Hopefully I can lead some insightful discussion here, and hopefully someone who has television access can describe to me what the heck is going on.

See you all tonight right back here.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 12:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Alright.
Here we go, boys and gals, twenty minutes from game time.

Brian made some really good points about what he's watching for at the game tonight.  (Have fun Brian, your opinion will be missed)

Anything additional that you guys are looking for from the Bills tonight?

Also, Vick (obviously), Dunn, and Crumpler are all out for the Falcons, so hopefully we won't have a repeat of last week's first quarter defense.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 6:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Bills injuries.
Josh Scobey, Angelo Crowell, Brad Butler, Aaron Merz and Melvin Fowler are all sidelined tonight.

Duke Preston will start at center for Fowler, and Coy Wire will start for Angelo Crowell.

Atlanta is also without second-year RB Jerrious Norwood, and LB Demorrio Williams.

Both teams are pretty banged up at this point it seems, though I'm sure many of the inactives are simply cautionary.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 6:45 PM EDT   0 recs

NICE.
Nice goal line stand for Buffalo.  Discouraging that they got all the way down to the one yard line on the legs of Jason Snelling, but "bend, don't break" seems to be the way the defense is rolling right now.

Poz's name came up a lot on that drive (listening on the radio).  Seems like he is looking good so far.  

Looking forward to seeing (read: hearing about) Marshawn Lynch on this drive.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Big play.
36 yarder from Losman to Evans on 3rd and 6.  

Offensive line picked up a blitz nicely (with Lynch's help).

Encouraging.

Ryan Denney was hurt on the opening kickoff.  It's his lower leg.  No word officially yet.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Boy, Harrington sucks.
Terrence McGee an "easy interception" (words of mark kelso)off Joey H.  

38 yard return, too.

Hopefully McGee steps up his cornerback play this year, that would be huge.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Drive stalls.
This offense has to capitalize on turnovers when we get the chance.

Inexcusable to come up point-less on that possession.  Losman missed receivers twice and had a bad shotgun snap get over his head.

Lindell missed a 55 yarder with a lot of wind blowing at the Ralph, can't really blame him.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Comments?
Where is everybody?
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

1st quarter thoughts.
  1. Posluszny has been all over the field so far.
  2. Big plays made by Evans and Terrence McGee are promising.
  3. Losman has been his usual inconsistent self.
  4. The defense has tightened up after that first goal line stand.
  5. Still haven't gotten a sufficient dose of Marshawn.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Defensive secondary out.
Whitner, Simpson, McGee, and Webster

have been changed to

Leonhard, Wilson, Greer, and Youboty.

I'd like to see something from Ashton in this game.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:49 PM EDT   0 recs

ANOTHER TURNOVER.
Sounds like Wire really put a hurtin' on Snelling there.  Nice to see our defense forcing some TO's and making big plays.  Snelling is still down.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Lynch out.
The A-train's in there now.  Marshawn seemed to run tough and had some decently long runs.  I'm happy with what we got from him tonight.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Oops.
I guess A-Train just spelled him for one drive.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lindell FG.
Well, Buffalo has 3 points from 2 turnovers. Not ideal, but good for a 3-0 lead.

Lindell hits from 48.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Where is Everybody?
Hi Nick,

I've been following along at NFL.com and Buffalo Rumblings.

Out here on the West Coast - No TV or radio.

-Warren

by Drafttekguy on Aug 17, 2007 7:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice.
At least I know I haven't been talking to myself the whole time.  

The sad part, I'm only two hours away from Buffalo and I don't have TV either.  I got a free 7 day trial from NFL.com for the radio cast, so I cashed in on that.

Nice to have you here, Warren.

Your thoughts on the game so far?

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thoughts on game so far
1-Defense making good plays early on, lots to be optimistic about

2-Really wish offense would capitalize on scoring opportunities..it could be 14-0 right now, but they do seem to have improved so far, gotta think that wind is somewhat of a factor.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.
I can't tell because I haven't been watching, but you're right, the wind must be hindering both offenses so far.

The D-Line seems to be playing much better than last week, minus that first drive, but that's hard to say without being able to see it.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

D-line
Yes you right there it is hard to tell without seeing it, from what I can tell on NFL.COM they seem to be penetrating a lot more and getting the plays disrupted...and making plays (mcCargo with the recovery)

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

McCargo
He also got penetration on a 3rd and 1 and dropped Snelling in the backfield.  Atlanta got the first down on 4th and 2, but still encouraging.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Passes to Lynch
Wish they would have completed some passes to Lynch, would have liked to see what he can do in space.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Definitely.
They tried once I think, and Lynch got blown up by DeAngelo Hall.  

The play-calling doesn't seem to be of the "explosive" nature that Fairchild was supposed to bring, but obviously they are holding things back in the preseason.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wire limps off field.
No word yet on how serious it is.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Injuries
This is one thing that is getting me nervous..all these minor training camp injuries, I just hope that the Bills are able to get to the regular season without any major injuries...every time Chris Brown tells about one I get all nervous

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Absolutely right.
It can be devastating to a team to have a star go down in the preseason (see: Michael Vick in 2004), but what often gets overlooked is little, nagging injuries that can hinder a bunch of players for the whole season.  Hopefully we can get these guys at full strength before opening day.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

3-3.
Atlanta gets a FG on a drive started by a long kickoff return. Tie game.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Everett Sighting
Pass to Everett for 4 yards...hope he participates more.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:10 PM EDT   0 recs

It'd be nice.
It's amazing what an athletic tight end can do for an offense.  If the line gels well, then we just may be able to send him out more often.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Laurent Robinson
Watched a little bit of the game last week against the Jets, and this guy looked pretty good.

Has made some plays against the Bills as well so far.

I love the big, tough receiver mold, but somehow they often get overlooked (see: Colston, Marques).

Wouldn't it be funny (in an evil sort of way) if, after all those first round receiver picks, Robinson ends up being the one that pans out.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Three-Run Homer...I mean...Field Goal
Atlanta now leads, 6-3.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Losman still in.
Seems like JP will get the whole first half.  

Marshawn is out, but the starting O-Line is in with Fred Jackson.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Fourth Runningback
With Fred Jackson performing well do you think like Brian G that the Bills will opt to keep 4 running backs and sacrifice depth somewhere else?

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:19 PM EDT   0 recs

I do.
I really like the way Jackson looked against the Saints, and I know the Bills did too.  On the other hand, it's hard for me to decide who should go in his place.  

I think it also depends on what happens with Anthony Hargrove and that whole situation.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

bye bye Shaud
True true, how the Hargrove situation pans out certainly is a factor...one thing that I hope to be certain of is that Shaud Williams will not make the team, I appreciate his work ethic, and just shear heart when he plays.  But he just never gets the job done.  I believe that his days as a Buffalo Bill are number.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i sure hope so.
I remember he had that one good game against Cleveland where we absolutely dominated them in Buffalo.  (The defense gave up some absurdly low yardage, can't remember the exact number.)  But other than that, he never did much.

I won't be sad to see him gone.  

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

6-3 at half.
Well, for a game that I'm listening to on the radio, I can't exactly qualify it in the "exciting" category.

We got a decent look at Marshawn Lynch, and he seemed to be living up to the billing.

Losman played the whole half, but did not play particularly well.  Never really got any good drives going at all. Only got three points on two turnovers.

The defense was up and down, as the Falcons racked up some good yardage, but only managed two FG's.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Looking towards the Titans
Hope that the First Team Offense can find their groove next game..last chance before it gets real, unless they are played any significant time in the last game which is unlikely.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Edwards in on the first series.
First drive stalls.

Edwards is in there, I guess Nall doesn't need any work.  They ran no-huddle on that drive. I guess they wanted to see his poise in a no-huddle offense.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:46 PM EDT   0 recs

First Half Grades
Losman: B-

Lynch: B+

WR's: Not enough info to grade.

O-Line: B

D-Line: A-

LB's: A

Secondary: A-

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Greg Wilson
Making an impact on defense...4 yard loss!!

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Sack/FF, then an INT.
Hargrove/McCargo team up for a sack and forced fumble, then Hargrove has an INT down to the ten.

YES! The D is making some plays, and I like it!

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:50 PM EDT   0 recs

TOUCHDOWN!
Trent Edwards to Roscoe Parrish.

Nice to see Trent scramble around a bit, and obviously if you give Roscoe some time he's going to get open with his speed.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Anthony Hargrove
Hargrove is really making a case for himself to make the team...back to back plays no less..sack then interception...If I am the Bills I would be seriously considering just swallowing the suspension and hope that he gets cleared of the charges, he would be useful for at least 12 games this season.

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 8:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Definitely.
As Brian has stated before here, I think Hargrove is one of the most talented players in that "cut" group that might not make the team.  He could be a real force if given a chance to rotate in to the D-Line.

I love the way this defense is making plays, and we finally cashed in on one of them.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Celebration.
In celebration of the Bills touchdown, I have cracked open my first beverage.

The choice:

Samuel Adams Summer Ale - great stuff.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 8:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Beverage
Dr.Pepper for me, a tidbit shy of that "adult" mark

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Dr. P
still, if you must choose a soda to drink, I commend you for choosing DP.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Announcer.
After Edwards almost trips and falls, he scrambles for five yards:

"Edwards made chicken salad out of....something a lot worse than that."

Brilliant Murphy, just brilliant.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Pos and turnovers
Correct me if I am wrong...but did Posluszny start the game? and through these two preseason games so far have the Bills had no turnovers?("knock on wood")<---as good old Coach Jauron says

That would be excellent if both of those were true

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

You are...
CORRECT!

Poz started and played very well when he was in there.

And yes, Buffalo has no turnovers so far.  Very few penalties as well.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fred Jackson
Seems like he's having another good game tonight, trying to solidify his spot.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:09 PM EDT   0 recs

D-Line making plays.
Just had another forced fumble on a botched toss play.  Like the way the defensive unit is playing in this game so far, very encouraging.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Jason Jefferson
I see his name popping up frequently in the play by play...leapfrogging a certain someone??

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jefferson
leapfrogging whom?
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Leapfrogging
Tim Anderson...he has been very quiet this preseason

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very true.
so quiet, in fact, that I forgot about him. haha.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fred Jackson
Although we call him Freddy back here in Iowa.  First time blogger.  My kids will be shocked.  We are Freddy's Iowa family while he was attending Coe College.  Great young man with a wonderful wife and a beautiful son.  We've been watching him play football since he was a freshman at Coe and he's always made the grade.  We're pulling for him and the Bills.

by Kohawk on Aug 17, 2007 9:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Welcome!
Well, welcome to Buffalo Rumblings!

Brian G, the owner of the blog, is at the game right now, so I am running the game thread in his place.

I read in Marv Levy's book all about Coe College, and I would like to say that we have really enjoyed Freddy so far on the Bills.

I personally am really rooting for him to make this team and contribute for Buffalo this season.

Thanks for posting, and keep coming back!

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fred Jackson
Marv is one of our great alums and a very classy guy. I've followed and cheered for the Bills going back to his coaching days there.  Buffalo has always had a classy operation and I respect that.

We hope to get out to Buffalo for a game this year if Freddy makes the team.

by Kohawk on Aug 17, 2007 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Ralph
Ralph Wilson Stadium and the city of Buffalo would welcome you with open arms... as long as you are rooting for the Bills. Haha.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Seeing some rookies
Even though that drive stalled out it was nice to see some plays turned in from Dwayne Wright and D.Schouman

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Wright.
The radio guy just compared Wright to Jamal Lewis (in running style, not criminal record).  I would love to have a pounding RB like that on this team.

We get a chance to see Wendling in action here on defense now.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

game update?
any change in the game score from 10-6?

by Kohawk on Aug 17, 2007 9:23 PM EDT   0 recs

Score
What is the core of the game. We can't get it in Florida ! Not so nice !!

by Karol101 on Aug 17, 2007 9:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Score
I mean SCORE !

by Karol101 on Aug 17, 2007 9:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Score
10-6 in favor of Buffalo

by applet68 on Aug 17, 2007 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

10-6.
The score is still 10-6 with eight minutes to play in the fourth.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Falcons threatening.
They just picked up a 4th and 1.  

They are at Buffalo's 24 yard line.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Thanks
Thank You ! They are going to have a great year ! GO BILLS

by Karol101 on Aug 17, 2007 9:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes.
They certainly are.  
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shockley
I'm surprised more Falcons fans aren't pushing for DJ Shockley to start, him being a former Bulldog and all.

I guess Harrington and Redman, two failed first rounders, seem like better options.  

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Well.
I think I just gave Shockley a death wish.

Better not say anything about ANY Bills player for the rest of the evening.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ball
Does Atlanta still have the ball. Where are they at ? How much time left ?

by Karol101 on Aug 17, 2007 9:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes.
1st and 10 at the Buffalo 4 yard line.

Their QB just went down, so now their second stringer Chris Redman is back in.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

situation.
Three minutes left.

2nd and goal from the 2 for the Falcons.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

shockley
Good jinxing, nick. What was the injury? I'm stuck at work with no radio, just nfl.com.

by marv4prez2012 on Aug 17, 2007 9:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Left knee.
They said they were bringing the cart out for something with his left knee.  It was non-contact, he was trying to cut and something happened.

I didn't see it, I'm listening on the radio b/c it is blacked out.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

situation.
Defensive holding on Tim Anderson.

1st and goal from the 1 now.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:38 PM EDT   0 recs

2 min. drill to win
If they put Nall in I'm gonna scream.

by marv4prez2012 on Aug 17, 2007 9:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Nall.
Never has there been a truer statement.
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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

score
did they score ? Say no !

by Karol101 on Aug 17, 2007 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Touchdown Falcons.
Redman play action pass to some scrub TE.

13-10 Falcons with 2:38 to play.

Trent Edwards is 18-21 in his two preseason games so far.  We need him to lead a drive here.

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by nickfeely8 on Aug 17, 2007 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Soo...
...anyone know what happened to Shockley?

by marv4prez2012 on Aug 17, 2007 9:42 PM EDT   0 recs