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State of the Roster: Bills Wide Receivers

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Welcome to the off-season, Bills fans. The NFL playoffs have reached the divisional round (go Jaguars!) (and we'll discuss those games briefly later on this week); for Bills purposes, however, we're continuing our roster breakdowns, which started yesterday.

This, folks, is the second posting of what will likely be at least 13 such posts in a series we're calling "State of the Bills Roster". We started with quarterbacks; today, we're skipping to wide receivers. Keep in mind the following: this exercise isn't entirely about talents and strengths/weaknesses as much as it is about status, usage and growth potential. This is a tool to help us predict/determine what the best plan of attack is for the Bills this off-season as they attempt to build a playoff roster for 2008.

Here's a breakdown of Buffalo's wide receiving corps:

Lee Evans
Evans had a disappointing 2007 season as the Bills flip-flopped quarterbacks, seeing his reception total drop from 82 to 55 and his big plays become few and far between as well. The Bills generally ran Evans on two types of plays - fly patterns and deep digs. However, with defenses keyed in on Evans - he was Buffalo's only viable receiving threat - double and triple coverage often left him covered. He dropped a fair share of throws as well. There's no question that Evans has elite deep threat tools, but it's also clear that he can't carry a receiving corps without help.

Will Improve in '08 if - a new offense finds better ways to get him the ball :: the Bills find stability at QB :: he gets some help in the red zone

Josh Reed
If there was a wide receiver that could be counted on week-to-week, it was Josh Reed. The young veteran had one of his best seasons to date, finishing second on the team in receptions (51) and developing into the Bills' top possession threat. When he was forced into starting action, he was not as effective - explaining why the Bills would often split Roscoe Parrish wide and let Reed continue to operate from the slot. Reed is at his best when he's not a focal point of the offense, as defenses can overlook him. He's certainly got a niche in the offense, and that niche will be better utilized if more talent is brought in.

Will Improve in '08 if - he doesn't have to start :: he no longer is a focal point of the offense

Roscoe Parrish
At one point, Parrish was complaining to the media that he was not being used properly in the offense. That may be true, but he still finished third on the team with 35 receptions and 352 yards. One of the NFL's elite punt return men, Parrish likely doesn't - and probably shouldn't - have much of a future role in the offense. He's simply too valuable elsewhere. Sure, he'll run the occasional reverse and he'll be on the field - at a minimum, he's a very scary slot threat, no matter how he's producing - but he'll probably never put up better numbers consistently than he did this season.

Will Improve in '08 if - the new O-Coordinator is creative in getting him the ball :: he doesn't have extended playing time, diluting his big-play potential :: he stays healthy for another full season

Peerless Price
Surprisingly, Buffalo's offense struggled when Price was placed on Injured Reserve after four games. Not because Price was productive - let's face it, his 7 catches in four games weren't making much of an impact - but because his loss forced Reed and Parrish to play out of their distinctive niches. With the popular opinion that the Bills will be looking to bolster their receiving corps prevalent, Price may not have a roster spot awaiting him in '08 - despite having two years left on his deal.

Will Improve in '08 if: he's used out of the slot more :: he can stay healthy :: he's on the roster

Sam Aiken
Aiken - one of Buffalo's top special teams performers over the past few seasons - is a free agent. Whether the Bills re-sign him or not depends solely on his special teams abilities, because in four seasons, he hasn't been able to see much playing time at wideout despite having a size advantage over his teammates.

Will Improve in '08 if - he stays healthy :: he focuses on special teams - let's face it, Sam, your career as an NFL receiver is essentially over

Justin Jenkins
Jenkins started the 2007 season on the Bills' practice squad, and was called up to the active roster after the season-ending neck injury to Price. In terms of wideout, Jenkins actually jumped the veteran Aiken rather quickly on the depth chart - in four-wide sets, it was Jenkins lining up with Evans, Reed and Parrish. The youngster even played well on special teams as a punt gunner; if special teams coordinator Bobby April feels comfortable having Jenkins fill the role that Aiken has the past few seasons, Jenkins may allow the Bills to let Aiken walk.

Will Improve in '08 if - he can stick on the roster again :: he develops his punt gunner skills :: he develops a rapport with Buffalo's backup quarterbacks

Other wideouts: Scott Mayle, Felton Huggins. These two were afterthoughts this season; Mayle spent 16 weeks on the practice squad, and Huggins was signed to the squad only after Mayle was promoted to the active roster for the season finale. These two will probably be around for training camp, but their chances of making the roster - or for that matter, the practice squad - are minimal.

Off-Season Outlook
Let's make this perfectly clear: the Bills don't have a bad receiving corps. Each player, specifically the top three guys, have distinctive roles within the offense. That's the inherent problem, however - all of Buffalo's current wideouts are role players. There is not one athlete among this group that has transcendent skills and can hurt defenses in more than one way. Until that player is added, Buffalo will continue to struggle in the passing game.

Possible additions: big, physical veteran; big, physical rookie; tall deep threat
Possible subtractions: Price, Aiken

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Tall Wide Outs
In my search for tall receivers, I checked out some draft sites (mocking the draft, New Era Scouting)and checked out their wide receiver rankings. Both had about 17 receivers, over the height of 6'3" listed in their top prospects. So I feel confident that the Bills will be able to draft a tall receiver. However I don't feel that a rookie will adequately contribute in his rookie year the way that the Bills will need in order to bring them to the next level.
So originally I believed signing a vet to be critical. My question is; do we need to spend money to bring in a new guy, or is a healthy Peerless Price really what we need. I know he isn't the big, tall, physically imposing figure that we all want but he is a vet receiver whose absence, as Brain said caused the offense to struggle. Everyone want two receivers in the off season one vet and one rookie, I'm wondering do we maybe just have to draft one and hope Peerless is healthy.

Any thoughts?

who would have thought I'd miss Pete Metzelaars?

by sireric on Jan 7, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE:
In my opinion, the Bills need to acquire a stud playmaker this offseason, whether it is a WR or a TE, a veteran or a rookie, and regardless of Peerless Price's status.  If Price can contribute, great; that improves the team's depth.  Getting a big WR or TE would be ideal to diversify the offense, but I'm not convinced that size is required.  Whether or not the player can contribute immediately should not be the issue, as long as he develops into an elite playmaker.  The Bills should not have to make the playoffs in 2008 or else be subject to more staff/roster overhaul.  It is possible for the team to be headed in the right direction and not make the playoffs in 2008.  I am concerned that the recent and general lack of patience, stability, and loyalty among front offices, coaches, players, and fans around the NFL may be hurting the league.

My question: Besides the fact that Trent Edwards likes to throw to the tight ends, why is Marv Levy so adamant about needing to get more production from the tight end position?  When the offense had so much success in 1990 and 1991, I believe that Andre Reed, James Lofton, and Thurman Thomas were the primary pass catchers; I don't recall TE Keith McKeller being involved that much at all, and TE Pete Metzelaars did not emerge until later.  Certainly an offense can have success without featuring the tight end (see Bengals).  Everyone says that tight ends are required to threaten the middle of the field, however what's to say that putting a receiver in the slot, as one example, would not accomplish the same thing?  Why doesn't Levy say they need help at tight end and wide receiver?  Why the emphasis on tight end?  Remember your success as the Bills coach, Marv?  It doesn't matter to me, TE or WR, as long as he is a great player.

As a side note, I wonder if Edwards favors throwing to the TE (and to the middle of the field in general) rather than the WR's because he is not confident that he can consistently make the tough throws to the sidelines where the WR's typically operate?

by Fort Worth on Jan 7, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE:
If Trent is the guy next year and he likes throwing to the TE, that is all the reason I need to want to give him a play-making TE. I agree that you don't need a great pass catching TE to have a successful offense in the NFL. But if Trent likes to use his then that is good enough for me.

As for your side note, I can only say that you may be right about that, and maybe in 2008 when he has more experience, the WRs will get more work, as Trent is more comfortable trying to make those throws.

who would have thought I'd miss Pete Metzelaars?

by sireric on Jan 7, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Metzelaars
What's weird about Pete's career is that his most productive seasons - and he had plenty of theme - came around the Super Bowl seasons. For example, he had 128 receptions in the 4 seasons leading up to the team's first Super Bowl; 15 receptions in the seasons of the first two Super Bowls; and 98 in the seasons of the last 2 Super Bowls. You're right - he had a lull right around the McKeller time period when the team opened up the offense. I guess I'm too young to remember some of that (I was born in 1985, Pete's first season in Buffalo, and was 5 years old for the first Super Bowl), so I didn't realize that he had said lull - I thought he was consistently productive throughout his tenure (which, I guess, he was to an extent).
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Size
I actually do think physical size needs to be a prerequisite here, because there just simply isn't any at the position. Look at the teams left in the playoffs: the Patriots have Moss; the Colts have Wayne; the Jags have about 462 tall receivers/tight ends; the Chargers have a big threat in Vincent Jackson; Cowboys=TO; Packers have Driver and Ruvell Martin as threats; Giants have Plaxico, who is a monster; Seahawks have D.J. Hackett. Every single guy listed is 6'0" or above; the only receivers the Bills can say that about are Sam Aiken, Justin Jenkins and Scott Mayle. Ouch.

Good football teams have big targets; their size makes up for the lack of speed. Burress isn't fast by any means, but his size makes him a deep threat. The same is true for Ernest Wilford, D.J. Hackett, Vincent Jackson, etc. Big offenses are the toughest to defend (just look at Cleveland). We need actual, physical size - it almost always helps.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE: My Question is
Can we get away with Peerless + a rookie wide out who is over 6'2" and an upgrade at TE like Rucker for example. Do we need the vet to be big. hieght only comes into play in certain situations (red zone fade patterns.) Can this team survive with Peerless as the #2 guy next year? (if they add a tall rookie receiver, and good pass catching TE)
who would have thought I'd miss Pete Metzelaars?

by sireric on Jan 7, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say no
What I guess I'm implying is that whatever receiver the Bills bring in, he needs to be a #1. Most #1 receivers these days are big targets that have the ability to catch the ball anywhere on the field; run any type of route. Lee Evans is not that player. (Heck, Chad Johnson isn't even that player - explains why Houshmandzadeh so horribly outperformed him this year.) If a veteran wideout is brought in, he'd better be big, and if it happens Price likely won't be with the team. If a rookie wideout is brought in, the team is sticking with Price, and yes - that rookie had better be big.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Veteran Wideout
What about Williams in Detroit?  He is fast, has good hands and has the size (6'3") everyone is talking about.  Detroit supposedly is willing to deal him.  Wonder if we can package some picks and/or players for him?  Would Detroit have any interest in a young, physically talented QB?

by fletcherjd on Jan 7, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is not
Keep in mind that Detroit drafted Drew Stanton last season, so he is, by and large, their "QB of the future". If they're interested in Losman, it's as a lame duck - just as Jon Kitna is now (and has been his entire career). It would take Losman and a very high pick - say, our second rounder - to get a talent like Williams, no matter how desperate Detroit is to get rid of him.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Deal
Baring something miraculous, Losman is done in Buffalo and will be gone after 2008, at the latest.  And the 2nd round pick is completely unknown, could net a stud or a dud.  So, if Buffalo can get a known, young, stud WR for a QB that is going to walk away and a 2nd rounder, why not do that?  If they would take Losman and our 2nd round pick, I would take it.

by fletcherjd on Jan 7, 2008 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meant to add...
That I doubt that would get the deal done.  But I do think that the new GM, whoever that may end up being, should definitely hold some conversations with Detroit about Williams.

by fletcherjd on Jan 7, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Re: Size
I agree that an addition of size would be a good thing for this receiving core and that size can definitely help.  But, didn't the Patriots have Branch (5'9"), Patten (5'10"), Brown (5'10") and Givens (6'0") at one point and were still pretty good? I guess my point is let's not just get fixated on the size aspect.  Size + skills = good, but just size means nothing.  I mean, Aiken is 6'2" and has never done anything at the receiver position.

by fletcherjd on Jan 7, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tall wide outs
You're right about skill, Laverneous coles is one of the best at coming down with a jump ball, and he's only 5'11". He's also said to want out of N.Y. He might be the fix this team needs, but he's not tall.
who would have thought I'd miss Pete Metzelaars?

by sireric on Jan 7, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Size again
I talked about this in another thread somewhere while watching the Redskins. They have a bunch of smallish recievers too yet seem to move the ball with some efficency, certainly more than the Bills.

That is why I believe the scheme is so important.  The change of offensive coordinators will be huge for this offense. Our guys have skills but were used wrong and that had a big effect.  I'm not saying we don't need to add talent, but I think we are better off than some think.

by RabidBuffalo on Jan 7, 2008 6:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
I don't deny that the guys we have can be effective. But we need that transcendent guy, the wideout who is more than just a role player. Evans is sort of that; we need a guy who is that.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TEs in the Super Bowl era
People forget this, but the K-Gun Offense wasn't named for Kelly, it was named for Keith McKeller.  I'm not anywhere near enough of an offensive guru to  explain the reasoning behind it, but suffice to say that clearly Levy and Marchibroda viewed McKeller's combination of size and speed as the key to the prolific offense of the early 90's.  I don't see it as a coincidence that Buffalo's best two offensive years coincided with McKeller's best two years.

All of this isn't to say that a top-notch TE is an essential element of a successful offense, but just to clarify why Levy values a top TE so much.

by Future Considerations on Jan 7, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And to that end...
... we'll be going over the current Bills tight ends in this series tomorrow morning. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quickest solution
The easiest way to solidify the position next year and have improvement at week 1 is to sign DJ Hackett. Start him opposite Lee and we have a nice duo.  With that I would also use a 3rd or 4th rounder on a taller WR with upside, someone like Steve Johnson (Kentucky), Will Franklin (Mizzou), DJ Hall (Bama), Marcus Smith (New Mex.), or Jordy Nelson (K St.).  That would give us more talent, size and depth, 3 things we really need at the position....
~K

by Kurupt on Jan 7, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

RE: Quickest solution
The quickest solution or the easiest solution is not always the best solution.  Patience.

by Fort Worth on Jan 7, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Patience
Patience isn't always the best solution, either, Fort Worth. Bottom line is that we need to upgrade our receiving corps/tight end corps ASAP so that we don't stunt the development of Trent Edwards by surrounding him once again with mediocre talent. We should be patient with Edwards, yes; we shouldn't be patient in putting top-flight talent around him.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE: Patience
You are correct about patience, Brian.  Now that we agree on going after top-flight talent, I want to encourage everyone to (and hope the Bills do) make acquiring players like Antonio Gates, Kellen Winslow, Andre Johnson, and Roy Williams the objective, not D.J. Hackett.  Hackett is a solid player, but not elite.  If we are serious about getting better, we need to raise the bar.

by Fort Worth on Jan 7, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: elite talent
Not all of the talent needs to be elite. In terms of elite, we need an elite threat offensively; whether that comes at WR or TE, it matters not. Hackett could be the compliment that Evans needs to explode and become elite; if you can sign a player to a cheap-ish contract and it, in turn, makes one of our own players elite, doesn't that achieve the same end?
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE: elite talent
You are correct about "not all of the talent needs to be elite".  However, I would still rather have two elite playmakers rather than one.  I am getting greedy.  I guess that I am just so angry about the pathetic offense this past season (and in general dating back to 2002), that I hope the Bills take extreme measures to improve, tear up the league, and relieve Bills fans of years of frustration.  The Bills should do everything they possibly can to improve, especially on offense.  I don't want probable success or maybe success; I want to be completely convinced that the Bills will explode on offense.  Unfortunately, I believe that Losman is more capable of leading an explosive offense than Edwards, but that's an entirely different topic.

by Fort Worth on Jan 7, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on O
The trend in this league, right now, is that if you have an offense that can score consistently, you win games. New England and Dallas are the most prominent examples - their offenses mask some deficiencies that their defenses have, especially points allowed. Yes, those are two very good defenses, but they don't have to be. Cleveland is another great example.

If the Bills want to win games, they need to score points. Think of the extra games Buffalo would have won - maybe as high as 4, elevating their record to 11-5 - if they'd had a good offense, even with the defense maintaining its #30 ranking! We're so close; you don't need an overwhelming defense to win anymore. You need a consistent offense and a playmaking, not dominant, defense.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No sure I entirely agree
I understand your argument but no one made it into playoffs with a bottom tier defense: see 2007 regular season defensive rankings.  

12 of the top 14 defenses made it into the playoffs; thats a pretty strong correlation in my book.  And its as good a reason as any why the Browns, Vikings, and Bills for starters couldn't seal the deal on a playoff run.

by Zumone on Jan 7, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*Not* sure that is
missing 't' in my subject.

by Zumone on Jan 7, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, but...
... how many deficiencies of those defenses are masked by their explosive offenses? I get what you're saying - and you have a great point - but I still believe that given what went on in 2007 with our franchise (namely, scoring touchdowns could have increased our record to 11-5), O is the way to go for this off-season.

Follow the Colts blueprint - build your offense, get them explosive, and then let them refine their game while you build your defense with young, fast talent. That's how the Colts did it, and they're perpetual winners.

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by Brian Galliford on Jan 8, 2008 7:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

re: Quickest solution
Or what do you think about Berrian from the Bears or maybe one of the stud receivers from Arizona?

by Zumone on Jan 7, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arizona > Chicago
But I'm with K on this one. Hackett has been a difference-maker for Seattle, and he's the biggest wideout out there. He can do the same in Buffalo.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No argument here
I'm just tossing names out - its difficult to predict who will be available (or affordable).  And I'd be surprised if Seattle didn't re-sign Hackett, but what do I know.

by Zumone on Jan 7, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree
That Seattle would probably like to re-sign Hackett. It's a different offense when he's healthy - and given the health concerns of Deion Branch over the past two years, they'd probably rather get rid of him before Hackett.
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by Brian Galliford on Jan 7, 2008 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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