Combine Thoughts: DT, LB, a dash of DE
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With the Denver Broncos the lead pursuant of DT Shaun Rogers via the trade route, the Buffalo Bills - who are rumored to be interested in the veteran - may need to begin developing a Plan B option at the defensive tackle position. With very little available via free agency, if the Bills are going to address the position, it will very likely be through the draft. Luckily, we got to see defensive tackles (and ends, and linebackers) work out at the Combine yesterday; here's how they fared.
(Note: keep your fingers crossed for a Rogers trade.)
Defensive Tackles
No one was more impressive, to your humble narrator at least, than Notre Dame's Trevor Laws. Weighing in at 304 pounds, Laws was still able to run a 5.08 40, with unofficial times as low as 4.97. He also threw up 35 reps of 225 pounds and vertically jumped 30.5 inches. Couple his impressive workout with his unbelievable college production, and Laws is looking like a first-round talent.
Sedrick Ellis disappointed with a 5.24 40, and Kentwan Balmer didn't fare any better with a 5.28. Watching these two in positional drills, however, is incredible - both of these guys are amazing athletes with great short-area burst and excellent footwork. Ellis is sure to be a top pick, but Balmer looked every bit the part of a Top-15 pick himself.
To prove that this is a very deep draft class inside, the following players also had impressive workouts: Pat Sims (5.06), Marcus Harrison (5.02), Ahtyba Rubin (5.17) and especially Dre Moore (4.88). Any one of these guys have the athleticism, strength and burst to play in Buffalo's Cover-2 scheme. Looks like that Plan B may actually work out.
Defensive Ends
Big surprise here: Virginia's Chris Long and Ohio State's Vernon Gholston had excellent workouts. Long ran a 4.75 40 and looked great moving around in space, proving he can play in any defensive scheme. Gholston ran a 4.67, jumped 35.5 inches and looked very light on his feet. Both could very well end up being Top-5 picks. Florida's Derrick Harvey (whom Mike Mayock continued to insist weighed 291) ran a slightly disappointing 4.8, but also looked fluid in positional drills. We won't get into defensive end much more than that, for two reasons: the rest of the workouts were average, and it's becoming more apparent that the team won't add a speed rusher with their top pick.
Linebackers
Neither Keith Rivers nor Dan Connor ran (Connor actually left Indianapolis due to illness), so the linebacker workouts were pretty uneventful. There was only one major disappointment, as LSU's Ali Highsmith - considered one of the more agile and swift linebackers available - ran a very slow 4.96 40. He may drop all the way into the third or fourth round after a pretty poor showing.
There are options for the Bills outside of Rivers, as Erin Henderson, Phillip Wheeler, Xavier Adibi and Tavares Gooden - all considered solid weak side candidates - ran in the high-4.6 or low-4.7 range and displayed similar athleticism. None of them should be considered immediate starters, but they've all got the potential to excel in this league. My preference, however, is Kentucky's Wesley Woodyard, who has packed on about a dozen pounds (he's up to 227) and ran a 4.54. He looked by far to be the most fluid athlete at the position, and although he'll likely struggle against the run, he works very well in space and has the look of being a superb coverage linebacker. The coverage element is something that the Bills don't have in their linebacker corps, either, so Woodyard could make an excellent addition.
Cornerbacks and safeties work out today to wrap up the 2008 Combine.
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Trevor Laws
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 8:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you called it
PLUS, Mayock mentioned in yesterday's telecast that he can play three-gap or one-gap techniques. Sounds like the perfect fit in Buffalo to me.
by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
by SP on Feb 26, 2008 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where we have needs, there seems to be depth
by killascript on Feb 26, 2008 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like him but,
Sure Chris Henry last year ran a fast 40, and so did Chris Johnson I believe this year, but that doesn't make them any better than what they were on tape unless you are looking at kick return.
by MARVelous on Feb 26, 2008 10:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Comparison time
by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2008 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another comparison
There is always a lot of moving at the combine, and pro days.
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why
Also, I don't want to bring in any more undersized LB's. I'm sick of watching these guys get engulfed by blockers because they aren't big enough to shed. Maybe Woodyard could be a good fit, but I don't know how happy I'd be with drafting him. Now if we were to sign a vet OLB, and draft a guy like Woodyard to be a situational LB as he continues to add some more weight, I could get on board with that.
Just wondering, but why would Laws all of a sudden shoot up into the top 15? Because he ran under 5.0 in the 40 and is stronger and quicker than predicted? I'm not going to pretend I know a whole lot about him, but he was considered a 3rd or 4th round prospect for a reason, right? Was he expected to weigh around 285 or something?
by Kurupt on Feb 26, 2008 10:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Re: everything
I've said it before and I'll say it again - more important than weight in linebackers is leverage. Crowell and Posluszny aren't big guys, but they play downhill, which is why they're (mostly) solid against the run. Keith Ellison plays scared, which is why he looks like a grandmother defending the run. Woodyard plays fast and hard. He's already better than Ellison, and his ideal role is weak side in the Cover 2. He might not be ready to start as a rookie, but he could be a stud.
DE: most of the defensive ends had pretty pedestrian workouts, with the exception of Long and Gholston. They're Top 5/6/7 picks. Harvey looked pretty slow, but even so, he could end up being a Top-10 pick. I don't think there's a ton of value at end in the first round. One is likely to be added, but I'd wait until the 2nd/3rd rounds, and I think the Bills will ultimately hold the same line of thinking.
by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2008 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also really like
by SP on Feb 26, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DT/OLB
I know alot of people are not too keen on Connor, but I believe having Connor and Poz playing together is exactly what the Bills would be looking for as the continuity between the two speaks volumes of their time together at PSU.
Thoughts?
Williams
by williams on Feb 26, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
by SP on Feb 26, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DT/OLB
Connor is listed as an ILB, but played OLB at PSU all but his senior yr. Even the draft experts commentated that they do not believe that he would be able to play the MIKE in the NFL, and that he would be more suited to play WILL.
I'm not saying that he would be the perfect fit at 11, but we would have to see who goes ahead of us to determine best available of need in my opinion.
by williams on Feb 27, 2008 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I think as far as the Bills are concerned they move a player up or down or off there boards based more on interviews at the combine than any 40 time or bench reps. I mean, I just have never, ever bought into these measurables. kevin durant was last in bench reps in the basketball "combine" yet he clearly was the most talented player in the draft.
And when you say a guy was a 2nd round pick. That again is public perception or some draft guru saying that. There is no way of knowing if that is the feeling of 32 scouting departments. I just get sick of hearing guys stock rising and falling. Vince Young was lambasted in the weeks up to the draft as well as Matt Leinart. I don't think it differentiated there stock at all.
by MARVelous on Feb 26, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah...
by Brian Galliford on Feb 26, 2008 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL insiders
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Laws.
Most important thing we need in a DT is the ability to play the one gap.
The Bills homepage had an article yesterday about Sims. It seems like they were trying to get some more info on his background. He might be a guy they are really targeting as well. Personally, I'd be thrilled if they could land both! [Before anyone bashes me on this, just think a second - it's not so preposterous to think the DTs really need a talent infusion. McCargo is still unproven, and Williams/Triplett, well, enough said there.]
Good point about the coverage LB. In his short time on the field, Poz didn't impress me in coverage. He made the tackles, but it would have been better if he knocked a few balls down, or forced the throw away.
by krytime on Feb 26, 2008 10:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Laws
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we can...
by SP on Feb 26, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Balmer
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See I'm not
by SP on Feb 26, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean
by sireric on Feb 26, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
Not to mention, they'd still have another third, a fourth, a compensatory pick, and maybe something from Losman. All in all, they really are in good shape for the draft.
by krytime on Feb 26, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I still think Laws is iffy
But what really impressed me was mentioning Xavier Adibi in your post. He's a guy I've liked for a while, and I think he would make a great addition at WOLB if we grabbed him in the 3rd round. I really think he's a guy that if we sign right away and get him in Camp he could end up being a starter week 1, and really provide a solid LB corp with Crowell, and Posz!!!
Adibi, a first round DT, and a corner or two and we could really be on our way to a strong season D-wise. (although we will still need an offense that can keep the D off the field for more than half the game)
by DC Fan on Feb 26, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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