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Transcript: Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll on Jake Fromm, Josh Allen, and a bunch of topics

Daboll met with the media Friday.

Matt Warren is Associate Director of NFL coverage for SB Nation and previously covered the Bills for Buffalo Rumblings for more than a decade.

On Friday, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll spoke to members of the media via Zoom. A broad range of topics were discussed including Jake Fromm’s racist comments, Josh Allen and the COVID-19 effects on the offseason, team leadership, and a lot more.

Below is the full, unedited transcript of the call.

Q: Can you walk us through the status of everything with Jake Fromm, his text messages and apology to the team?

A: Sure…Jake spoke to the team yesterday, which was really comprised of coaches, players and support staff and he gave an apology for the text messages that came out yesterday. He knows that he has a lot of work to do to earn the trust of his teammates back. And I’m a big believer in actions speak louder than words. So I know he’ll be committed to that. We have a strong leadership group, a strong culture in our room. Jake is a young man who apologized and, you know, where we go moving forward: he’s got a lot to do to earn the trust and confidence of the players and everyone else in the building back. I know he’ll work hard to do that.

Q: How does what you guys have built culturally inside the locker room help navigate the waters right now?

A: Well, I think two things. First of all, Sean and Brandon have really done a good job of really cultivating what we have here. It’s about bringing the right people in. People that are hardworking, that are smart, that treat people like they want to be treated. These are tough times, challenging times. And you want to associate yourself with people that are good people that are willing to do the right thing. We have a bunch of those guys not only in our locker room, but on the coaching staff and in the building as well. And that’s what our focus is, is to bond with one another to help each other out to show empathy to do what we can do our part to try to help make things better. So we have a strong room, a strong organization. By no means is it perfect, but that’s always our goal.

Q: From your perspective, how is the communication amongst the team going on all of these issues?

A: Look, open communication is a catalyst for change. And I’m not going to sit up here and pretend to understand what some of my players, some of my friends are going through. I’m here to listen and to support them. Let them know that I love them, that I have their back, help lead them and be involved as much as I can. It’s a tough topic. Yeah, I’ve had a lot of conversations with guys, some longer than others and I want to let them know that that I love them and that I have their back. That I’m willing to help, my families willing to help in any way.

Q: It seems like the foundation in your organization is to have conversations and not just have coaches telling players what to do. How important is it to continue those conversations?

A: Sure. Well, I think the foundation of a good organization is building relationships. And relationships is a people business. Sure, there’s X’s and O’s and schemes and challenges along the way and dealing with adversity. But you deal with adversity, through building relationships, genuine relationships, loving relationships. My guys know that I got their back. And I know they got mine. But that’s not something you just come into a room and that happens. You have to develop that over time and sometimes conversations happen that leads you to become closer. But I think transparency is important. I think making sure that they know you care about them as people. Again as the NFL has gone on and as football is going on, you’re right. Back in the day your coach would tell you to do something and you did it. A lot of times nowadays, everybody wants to understand the why. And you have to do a good job of communicating the ‘why’ to these guys. But there’s no substitute. None at all for the relationship that you can build with the people that you’re with on a day-in, day-out basis. And that’s one of the most important things to me, not just as a coach, but as a person to have real relationships. And that’s never going to change. That’s how I was raised. That’s what myself and my wife and my family believe is. Relationships are the catalysts for change. Relationships are the catalyst for success. We’re going to face some adversity along the way and a lot of different areas. And a loving, caring relationship where people understand that it’s give and take, I think is very important.

Q: A lot of the players have talked about how frequently you FaceTime with them. Is that something you have been focused on doing in this situation?

A: I’ve been working on it since (FaceTime) kind of came out. I’m not very technologically advanced with some other things. But FaceTime is definitely one of them if you want to consider it a technological advancement. I just think that whether I can see you in person and talk to you, even though we’re not here versus just hear a voice, I would rather see you, I’d rather see the emotion on your face. And I do it with all of them. I’m not much of a person that uses a lot of texts or a lot of phone calls, but I certainly use FaceTime a lot and whether they enjoy it or not, I’m not sure.

Q: How has Josh Allen been tackling what is such a critical offseason for him?

A: Yeah, so this this offseason has been really the same for every team. And I think the thing that Sean (McDermott) has really expressed to us is we’re not going to make any excuses about the situation that we’re in. It’s a situation that everybody’s in. So how can we do our part to make it as good as we can make it and that’s where our focus has been. That’s where all our effort and our energy lies. It’s not just with Josh, it’s with our entire team and I’ll speak for the offense, with our entire offense. So first of all, I’d like to give credit and a thank you to our video department, our IT department to make this possible where we can do this with these guys and help set up the film and things like that when you’re doing it virtually via Zoom. Those guys have been fantastic. The second thing is, you learn different techniques of teaching and it makes you better maybe along the way to help these guys out. Certainly you can evaluate the things that they’ve learned on a Zoom call, because they’re not able to take it to the field. But there are so many different things that have come up and credit to our assistant coaches. I’ll jump in their meetings when they meet with those guys on an individual basis a lot and the different techniques and styles of things and quizzes and game shows. They’ve just done a really good job of taking whatever we needed to do and making it as good as they can make it. Josh I know has been working just like he always does in the offseason. He’s in his third year in the system. So he knows probably a lot more than he knew at the beginning. And same with Matt. Matt’s coming into in two and a half years. And Davis and the rookies are young, but it’s new for everybody. So time will tell on that, but in terms of what we’re able to do and how we’re able to do it with the guys. And again, the assistant coaches are the ones that are doing it a bunch. We do it once in a while together, but it’s really the assistant coaches and we have a really good assistant coaching staff. The guys that work with me have really gone above and beyond for their players to try to help them in any way possible. And I would say that’s not just with the scheme stuff, they’re there for them for anything that they need.

Q: How about the addition of Stefon Diggs to your offense?

A: Yeah, well Stefon is a good football player. He’s a good receiver. He’s a good person. I’m glad we have him. We’ve had a quite a few conversations with him and trying to develop that relationship that I talked about earlier that is so important. We’re well on our way of doing that. He’s smart, he’s been involved in all the meetings. Can’t wait to get back out there to get out to practice and work together, but you know, give credit to those guys and led by Josh Allen that they were able to go spend some time down there in Florida and do some things together. But happy we have Stefon. He fits well into the room with our other players and looking forward to working with him come training camp.

Q: What kind of feedback did you get from the players that went down to Florida about how important it was to be around each other and to work together?

A: Sure. Well, I that’s what we do. That’s how you’re evaluated. Again, it was a really, really encouraging sign to see Josh along with some of the other guys get things together and be able to go down there and do some routes on air and throw some routes. When they got back and we were talking about it in one of the Zoom calls the other day, I just thought that it was good for them to get together. They were very happy about it. It wasn’t just football stuff. They did a lot of other things. Team building is always important. And again, we’re only talking about a couple days here, but it was good. I know they enjoyed it. They got some stuff out of it. And you know, that’s good when your players want to do that particularly in some of the tough times that we’re in right now.

Q: Quick follow on the offensive line, you know, a unit that had four new starters last year. This offseason, not a lot of new additions Daryl Williams now in the mix, but how much of the ability does that unit have to improve just based on continuity alone?

A: Yeah, that’s a good question. No, well, time will tell. I have a lot of confidence in those guys. It starts from the top with Bobby [Johnson], who I think is a fantastic football coach. But you know, those guys in that room they’re close knit guys. And you know, we’ve had it like you said, D-Will [Daryl Williams] and [Evan] Boehm and some undrafted guys and you know, the challenge of playing that position is you really have to see the games through the same set of eyes, all five of them. And it takes all five, and if there’s a little leak in one of them, you know, it’s a reflection of all five of them and they take pride in that. It’s a hard position to play. A lot of things that go along with it, but certainly it’s a close-knit group that works well together. And each year we aim on improving each practice, we aim on improving. And that’s, that’s what our mantra really is. Let’s just take it one day at a time and improve and control the things really dominate the things we can control. Talk about controlling what you control, you can dominate those things, your preparation, your communication skills and really make no excuses. And those guys are, you know, I love all of them, man, they work hard, they’re close knit group and we got a long way to go here, though for missing these OTAs and not being on the field, you’re missing, you know, 8000-9000 reps of working together in different forms and fashion between individual drills, group settings and team stuff. So, we’ll have a lot of work to do and can’t wait to start.

Q: A couple things really quick. First of all, on Josh Allen, we alluded to it earlier that obviously there’s no excuses there. Every team’s in the same boat. But given you know how important year three is for Josh Allen, is it a concern to you that you did lose all this time on the field? And if that’s the case, how important is it going to be to really hit the ground running, if and when you ever get to a real training camp.

A: Listen. Again, I’ve talked about us being in the same boat. Everybody is behind based on the circumstances we are in in terms of on field work, technique work and chemistry work. There’s no substitute for that, but we really don’t focus on that, because it doesn’t do us any good to focus on the things that we can’t control. Certainly, we would love to have all of our players out there on the field working together and improving their techniques and fundamentals and implementing schemes and seeing how they take it from the classroom to the field. But that’s just not the world we live in. To your point it will be extremely important, not just for Josh, but for everybody when we get back to training camp, to really hit the ground running. And it’s gonna be important on all ends from the players end to where they are physically to the coaches end in terms of the installation schedule and things you want to put together because, again, you’re missed – there’s no substitute for those 700, 800, 900 reps that you’re missing in OTAs. But you know, we’re all on the same boat. We’ll be prepared, we’ll be ready to go when training camp hits and Sean [McDermott] will have a good schedule put together for us, and we’ll be excited to go out there and execute it.

Q: And if I could follow really quick, could you give us a quick breakdown on [Isaiah]Hodgins and [Gabriel] Davis, the two receivers that you guys drafted? Obviously, you had a big part in that. We haven’t talked to you, just give us a quick breakdown.

A: First of all, they’re really good people. Intelligent, these are some for young players who have haven’t been in the building who are learning the system for the first time. You can tell they put a lot of work into it. And they’re doing a good job of grasping the information the way we’re teaching it right now. Now, that translates to the field remains to be seen, but they have great families. I was on a call with Gabe the other day and got to meet his mom and his mom said if he’s given us any problems, just let him let her know. They both have great personalities. They’re bigger sized guys. They were productive at their colleges at UCF and Oregon State. You know, had an opportunity to just watch them on tape. You know, you didn’t get to go down and work them out. But big body guys that can high point the ball and have good ball skills, make some contested catches. Again, how they fit with us and not seeing them in the roles that we asked them to do would be unfair of me to answer, but I’m happy that we have them. I’m glad that Brandon [Beane], Joe [Schoen] and those guys drafted them, because they fit our DNA, both the type of men they are and really the type of player tough physical guys that again, have good ball skills, are not afraid and provide us a little bit of size.

Q: Looking at Josh and what he did over the past couple of weeks was working out with first the rookies and then with the mostly the entire offense down in Florida. How encouraged or how much did in times of adversity, how important was it to see Josh take further ownership continue to take ownership of his role as a leader and you know at that position?

A: It’s important. He’s our quarterback, but you can’t force leadership. You can improve it. You can learn about it. You can grow from it. But Josh has inept leadership qualities that guys gravitate towards, and he understands his role on the team. Not making it more than it is, being one of the guys, being there for the players around him, helping them with the system, getting them together so that you can build that team chemistry. Not all about football. You’d have to ask his teammates, but he’s been a fantastic leader for us, and it doesn’t surprise me.

Q: And just as another topic and thanks for that, Brian, when it comes to Jake Fromm, how difficult in your discussion among the coaches was it to resist just to out up and just cut the guy knowing seeing what the pushback was and knowing what the level? You know, just where we are in society today? How difficult was it? Was it the resist that urge or recommend that urge?

A: Well, I think that’d be a question for Brandon and Sean. He talked to the team, he apologized, and he understands what he needs to do to earn the trust of his teammates back in, and it’s not an easy road. It’s a long road. Again, I’ve said actions speak louder than words, but in terms of those other things that’s really a question for Brandon or Sean.

Q: I want to ask about the offseason workouts um, is it Do you notice that it’s a little bit easier for you because you’re in year three as opposed to your one, and then also how do you keep guys interested when their entire day is just this on Zoom?

A: Yes, that’s a good question. You know, it’s really a testament to the guys in terms of their interest level and their concentration and focus during meetings. But it’s also like I said before, a credit to Bobby Johnson, [Terry] Heffernan and [Ryan] Wendell in the live room, Rob Boras in the tight end room, [Ken] Dorsey and Shea [Tierney] in the quarterback room, Chad [Hall], Marc [Lubick] and [Kelly] Skipper. You have to find creative ways. You have to think outside the box to initiate conversation, to teach new methods, to learn new testing systems with what we have. And you know, we have to do the best that we can do with the technology that we have, and we have. Again, how that translates we’ll find out. This is a unique situation for all of us. In terms of the third system, I would never use the word easy, because each year is a new year and you need to integrate new players, whether that’s rookies, free agents, members of the team that are that are new or just that haven’t really done a whole lot for you. So, you don’t go back to – it’s not as long and drawn out maybe is when you first started the program, but you need to make sure you dot your i’s and crossing your t’s. And reinstalling the things that you have in your system, but look systems change too based on personnel. So, you know, there’s a lot of work that was done and that is done in each offseason. From system evaluation to studying of other professional teams or other college teams, that there might be some things in there that that you want to incorporate, because of the people that you have. Like you said, someone said, forgive me who it was. But you know, we added [Daryl] Williams on the line and [Evan] Boehn. And then you know, we added [Stefon] Diggs. So, it wasn’t like a mass overhaul. We added some rookie free agents, but you have to introduce those things to the new players, and sometimes the skill set that you acquire that you pick up in an offseason, that’s different than skill set from the previous year. Not worse, not better, whatever it may be, it’s just different. So, it’s your job as a coach without seeing them on the field. You have to go back and dig into the whether it’s the Minnesota tape or the Carolina tape or the Indy or the Miami stuff, and figure out you know, what do you think – what do you perceive their strengths to be? And how can we use them in a manner that fits us. And if you don’t have those things in your system, then it’s your job to go out and investigate and research and install some new things. And that happens on a yearly basis. It’s kind of the cycle of the NFL is, you know, if you just stay in this the same and run the exact same place year in and year out, you’re not really doing a service to your to your players if you’re not trying to dig as deep as you can to learn new things as a coach, to grow as a coach and to grow as a team.

Q: Brian, just real quick, it seems like the events in the last week and a half or so have shook you up emotionally a little bit. Did that surprise you at all?

A: No. Did it surprise me that it shook me up?

Q: I mean, in terms of more the relationship with your players, you know, obviously the way this world has changed and has, I guess, gone about reacting to what happened in Minnesota. It shook everybody up. But for you, it seems like this is something that affected you personally with your relationship with his team.

A: Sure. Well, not just my team with with my friends. No, I have a lot of friends and not just on this football team and some friends and players on this team that are special to me. And that our true friends and I’m just a guy that grew up supporting the people that I love and making sure that if they’re going through a tough time, then I’m gonna be there for him and that is never gonna change.

Q: Improvements for Josh Allen…What are some of the improvements you’re looking to see in Josh this year and with all these new additions offensively, how creatively will this offense become elite?

A: Well, we’re gonna go ahead and start from the bottom where we’re at when we get to training camp and try to improve each day with our installation and the things that we put in. It’s hard right now to say where we’re going to be or where we’re not going to be until you see all the pieces on the field, working together, and figure it out on a day to day basis. And that’s going to be important. Practice is always important. It’s the most important thing we do. Because you’re able to see the guys execute the stuff that you put in the classroom, and that’s really where the game is played. And you’re going to have to do a good job, as you always are, but I’d say you even more this year, during training camp, on being ready to adapt and adjust in a very quick manner. Because there might be something that you thought was a good thing to install, and you get out there and it just doesn’t look great. And again, missing all those reps and you know, muscle memory, and familiarity with things and body language between a quarterback and a receiver. Those are important as you guys remember last year, I remember getting some questions about, early on in camp about Cole [Beasley] and Josh and the different little option routes and things we run and how important that chemistry is, you don’t get that until you do it a bunch. We’re going to be looking to hit this thing ground running and making adjustments the way we need to make them, but the installation schedule is going to be critical. And the ability to adjust and adapt during that time is going to be really quick because you know, God willing, season is going to be on us quick and it’s going to be our job to really hit the boulders, so to speak, to make sure we’re ready to go.

Q: With all the new additions on the offense from the rookies to the free agents, how have you seen the new players go out of their way and the vets go out of their way to try and get to know each other in this weird virtual setting that we’re all in?

A: Sure. Well, I said this before, we have a strong leadership group and a strong culture set in place already by Sean and Brandon and you know, guys like, I jump into these zoom calls. It’s a lot more personal when you can just break it down into smaller groups to teach rather than having 50, 60 guys and there’s a lot of stuff going on. So I’ll jump into these zoom calls and watch the position coaches teach and I’ll jump in there and have communication with these guys. And really, it’s about the best part of my day because the receiver room is fantastic in terms of their personalities and the conversations that they have and the way they go about learning and the competition. And you know, guys like Smoke, and Beasley and Andre Roberts. They’re always there for Diggs, and for these young guys, and then you got some guys that have been in our system for a while like Robert [Foster] and Isaiah [McKenzie]. They keep it light, particularly Isaiah McKenzie has a way of keeping things light and he does a great job of making guys laugh. Or yell at him or whatever it may be. But the guys that were here, the guys that that have played with us for the last few years or last year, again guys like Smoke, Beasley, Patrick DiMarco, Lee Smith, Jon Feliciano, Q Spain, Mitch Morse, obviously Josh and we have a lot of good guys in our building, not just good leaders but good guys. It helps when you’re a good guy and a good leader. And the guys that we bring in… we look for certain DNA, and those guys have done a great job of falling in line with those other guys, asking questions, showing us their personality the best way they can and I think that’s very important. You don’t always have to be a third, a fourth, a tenth year player to be a leader. You know, young guys can lead and you lead by doing the right thing. Doing things the way they’re supposed to be done, when they’re supposed to be done, all the time. And you know, it’s a good group to work with. I’m excited to get out there with them and get back with them in person and work with them in the classroom and on the field and cant wait till that happens.

Q: You FaceTime players just to ask them random questions or just to catch up beyond the X’s and O’s of football. Why do you think it’s important to have that rapport with your offensive players and build those types of relationships right away?

A: Because you work with them on a day to day basis. It’s not just you’re a coach and you’re a player. They’re great friends of mine too. And calls matter. I think concern matters. Friendship matters. Because you go through some tough times, and you have to be real. That’s what I try to be with these guys, is real. And I hope that they know how much I care about them and I believe they do. And you know, I got a lot of kids running around this house too. So it’s good to just jump in this little office that I’ve got and FaceTime with some guys and see how they’re doing and let my wife kind of deal with all the hustle and bustle, let’s go into my house and spend a couple hours talking to some different guys each night. Like I said before, I’d rather see you and see the emotion on your face. Happy, sad, whatever it may be. Everybody goes through different things. But I said it before, I’ll say it again. I just, I love the guys. Got a lot of respect for them and they’re really good players for us, but they’re really good friends to me.

Q: I know it’s tough to maybe answer, seeing as you haven’t seen him on a professional field yet, but Zack Moss. How can he complement Devin Singletary in your mind?

A: Sure, well, Zack was a very productive [college player] as you guys know. He really did a good job on his college tape on demonstrating some of the qualities that we’re looking for in a running back. He’s a tough, hard nosed downhill guy that, you know for being a bigger body guy, he still has the ability to make people miss in short spaces. We really liked the toughness that he ran with. Again, Jay and I appreciate the question. It’s a really good question. How it’s going to compliment, we’ll find out soon enough when the pads come on and again, I think it’s just important for all these young guys to come in ready to go, be in shape, be physically fit, and demonstrate the things that we saw them do on their college film. It’s a hard transition as all of us know, on this call, to go from college to the pros and be successful right away. Some can do it. Some it takes a little bit longer. But the quicker that you can do it, the more you help your team out. We’re certainly excited to have Zack join our team and we do think he has a good skill set for the type of things that that we would do with him. Look forward to getting him out there and seeing how that goes here in hopefully July.

Q: You’ve talked some on the wide receivers. You add Stefon and a pair of draft picks to a position where you have a lot of guys back. I mean, you’re gonna have just on sheer numbers good players who can’t make this football team. What’s the challenge for you and your staff going to be like in terms of trying to sort that out and making some really difficult decisions at that position?

A: Yeah, those are those are always those are always tough decisions. And you hope as the years go on in your program, in your organization, decisions do become tougher and tougher. These guys put their heart and soul to do everything they can do to help the team and make the squad and unfortunately, we can only keep a certain amount of them. Those decisions on a year to year basis are always difficult decisions. Because you have so much respect for what the players put into it, laying their bodies on the line, and the work ethic that they utilize to get to this point. Those are tough decisions. And, you know, when you’re in training camp, you usually meet once a week, sometimes a little more than that. Maybe every two weeks depending on how it’s going, to evaluate where you’re at as a team and as a roster and the players and in each position room and how that fits to come up with your 53. They’re tough, and the more talent you get, the more competition, those become, as you can imagine, even tougher. And then you have to make the decision that you think is best for the interest of your football team. And those days, you know, the days that you have to release those players man, those are tough days for the players but man, they are tough days for the coaches too.

Q: So, the offseason mantra and I know this didn’t come out of your mouth but it’s come out of Brandon’s mouth, come out of McDermott’s mouth. The need to score more points going into this year. I realize there are a countless number of variables each and every week that you play in the regular season. But do you at least feel you are better equipped and have a greater potential to score points on a regular basis going into the fall?

A: Yeah, well, I mean, that’s the goal every week. Again, appreciate the question. Time will tell, you know. You have to go out there and…offensive football is assignment football and is execution football, and you have to rep it. You have to get as many reps as you can to perfect the craft that you’re needed to do. Certainly we all want to score more points. That’s the goal. But we all want to win, however we need to win. However the game dictates it. That’s what we’re always going to do. But offensively, your number one goal is to score points. And that’s an area we definitely want to improve on. We’re gonna work very hard to get that job done. We’ve got a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work ahead of us in the coming months.

Q: Just with respect to the time, making up for lost time. Coach McDermott, probably back in April said that he would put at the top of the priority list in terms of making up for lost time, timing in the passing game number one, would you agree with that? And how much do you have to kind of shift your priorities in terms of what has to get accomplished? First and foremost, now with the time lost.

A: Oh, yes, I agree with that. Again, there’s so many things and so many little details that need to be accomplished to make a successful pass play work. And there’s no question we haven’t had the opportunity to do that. So I think it was great what Josh did, albeit not against the defense, but you’re still working on time with your footwork and depth of a route and timing of the throw and all those sorts of things. But yeah, you know, there’s no substitute for reps. That’s why I go back again to the development and the input that the coaches and myself will have in the installation schedule, and how we put that together and how we’re able to adapt and adjust as the days stack together, to make sure we’re getting exactly what we need, not just scheme-wise but timing-wise and fundamental-wise, because again, there’s no substitute for going out there and doing the job. So, we’re going to have a great plan. And I’m sure Sean is going to put together a great schedule for training camp as we go. And we’ll follow his lead and we’ll be ready to hit the ground running when the time is ready.

Q: I was just curious on your thoughts, because leadership and quarterbacks kind of go hand in hand and the quarterbacks are universally held to a higher standard because of what goes on with their position. So I guess what I’m wondering is, how realistic is it… And you mentioned that Jake Fromm has a whole long way to go to regain the trust of the locker room as a whole. But how realistic is it for a quarterback above all else to regain the trust of his teammates to go and battle for him and that his message doesn’t fall on deaf ears? Especially considering the fact that he’s a rookie that has only met a handful of these guys and hasn’t been able to establish those relationships in the first place?

A: Again, to me, action speaks louder than words. So time will tell. I mean, that’s a short answer to a longer question, but that’s what Jake’s gonna have to do. And time will tell. So he’s just going to have to take it day by day and prove to all of us that he’s headed in the right direction, and again, the players that we have in our building, culture, the chemistry. I believe in those guys and again, we’ll see as you know, we’ll see as we go along here.

Q: Last year at this time, the top of the running back depth chart was LeSean McCoy and Frank Gore. Now you’re looking at Devin Singletary and Zack Moss. How does your approach change in dealing with the running back room when that’s a big difference between the experience in those four guys?

A: Yeah, a lot of mileage with those other two guys. Two of the best [that’s} ever done it. Again, and this is just my experience in pro football, things change on a year to year basis. You add new players, obviously Motor is not a new player. He’s in his second year. But you add new players and you got to get them ready to go. And we have we have confidence in these guys. Particularly, I would say Motor having seen him do it for us. And Zack and you know, I’d be remiss to leave out a guy like T.J. Yeldon, who was a productive player at Alabama and has gone through some things in the league but he’s done a good job with anything we’ve ever asked him to do here. So we’ll have a competitive room. We brought back Taiwan Jones. We added Antonio Williams, a rookie, so we’ll have a competitive room. And again, it’s our job as a coaching staff and ultimately, my responsibility to make sure we’re trying to do the things that fit, not just the running backs, but the entire offensive unit. They definitely have skill set. They might differ a little bit in some of it and some of it, they may be the same, but they’re two young eager players that I have lot of confidence in and that they’ll be ready to go when training camp comes.